Hour 2: NFL RB Power Rankings, plus Recent PGA Tour Winner Jackson Koivun

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1:28Rich Eisen:What's the line that you get the most? The Rich Eisen Show. Who wants a mustache ride? Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, actor Jeremy Swift, still to come. PGA Tour winner Jackson Koivin. Tampa Bay Times Bucks writer Rick Stroud. Your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on Disney+. The ESPN app, ESPN Radio, Sirius XM, Channel 80. Keeping an eye, going on on all fronts involving the National Football League. Training camps opening up absolutely everywhere.

2:16Rich Eisen:And it's now time to get to our next guest right here on this program. By the way, I've got a power rankings later on this hour, top running backs. I've got my four downs on the Cincinnati Bengals. I've got some phone calls. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the program. Mike Del Tufo, he's playing hurt today. You've got back issues. Mike, the one thing I'm just going to suggest you don't do with a back issue is watch Jackson Koivin swing at the club because you'll throw your back out again. Here he is fresh off of his first career win as a professional golfer at age 21 holding off scotty scheffler and just his third career pga tour as a professional start good to see you jackson coiven how are you yeah how are you good how are you how's life changed for you over the last few days uh not much i mean i soaked it in on sunday and then headed to detroit on monday for a new tournament how does one soak it in how did you soak it in um i enjoyed it with my dad on the golf course uh after the tournament and then um did a little fishing that's it fishing that's awesome so you said yeah on so on sunday night you went fishing yeah where on the golf course okay i've got following i've got some follow-up questions.

3:41Rich Eisen:Did you catch anything? No, but I followed up the groundskeeper and he showed me a picture of a 42-inch northern pike caught. So I know there's fish in there. I just didn't get as lucky as I did on the golf course. Like what? Hold on a second. So there's fish and the water on the golf course? Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah. What hole? All of them. Totally. There's great fishing on them. Did you know this, Chris? I saw the video and the pictures of him fishing directly after the round. I did not know that there was potentially a 42-incher in there. That's amazing. That's it? Yeah. Okay. What requires more patience, fishing or playing golf?

4:32Fishing.

4:32Rich Eisen:Oh, really? Yeah. All right. When did you realize that you could play golf at a particularly high level, Jackson? well i played played most sports growing up and um kind of around seventh eighth grade i started getting better at golf and uh i don't really have the football or basketball build so uh decided to kind of pursue that i was already pretty good at it so getting into high school i started leveling up and when did you start um you know breaking par consistently in your world, Jackson? Probably end of middle school into high school. Oh, my goodness. Now, that's a dream for Cage. Is it not, Chris?

5:20Yeah, my son is six, Jackson. So, you know, he's also out there balling. But, yes, that would be great.

5:26Rich Eisen:Okay. I'm counting down the days until he can beat me. And was your mom, dad a player at all or no? My dad played recreationally, and that's how I kind of got into it. I just would tag along with him to the golf course, And then I just kind of fell in love with it and started asking him to go instead of him asking me. Okay. That sounds familiar. Yeah. So you're an eighth grader breaking par. Is that really what you said? You're a seventh grader, eighth grader breaking par? I would say around there, yeah. From what, from the tips of a golf course? Depends on the golf course we played, but sometimes we play a little further up.

6:02Sometimes we play the tips, but yeah.

6:05Rich Eisen:All right. So what's the course that you broke par or won a tournament at when you were a young age that we would be like, get out of here. You played on that course. Like, what course do you recall? Like, this is pretty sweet for me. I'm playing this course, and I'm good enough to win here, Jackson. Yeah, the AJGA Tour, it's a junior golf tour kind of across the country. they had some really sweet spots we could play on um actually next week's event the at Sedgefield the Wyndham Championship there's a junior event there and then they have a nice one at TBC Sawgrass so those are two of my favorites growing up uh those were a little more into the end of high school when I started getting into those but um there's some there's some good golf courses it's black and how how are you able to focus Jackson you know like um to be honest with you so many people your age are you know phone addicted um not able to zero in on things um a lot of attention span theater um but you're able to dial in i imagine at one point look at a leaderboard and go okay scotty scheffler i gotta hold him off to win here today which you then did how are you How do you do it?

7:30I think it's just the love of the game. I really enjoy playing golf, and it's something I've always been able to really hone in on. Like you said, I mean, my attention span isn't great either, but for some reason, golf is something I'm really focused on.

7:46Rich Eisen:Okay. What do you mean your attention span is not great either? What do you mean? Just like sometimes when I'm doing other stuff, it's really easy to just kind of lose track and mentally zone out. But like I said, like I just love golf. So it's just easy for me to lock in on it for four hours. What do you love about it, Jackson? I love it. You're almost playing against yourself. You kind of control your own destiny. I love team sports too growing up, but golf was always something where it's like I have full control over everything and I'm playing against the golf course. Obviously you're playing against other competitors, But at the end of the day, it's like, what can you go shoot?

8:29And how much work can you put in to get to that point?

8:33Rich Eisen:Jackson Coivin here on the Rich Eisen Show. How much did NIL play in your decision to hold off turning professional? Jackson? Zero. NIL was definitely a bonus of college for me, but just the opportunity to go play at a great school like Auburn with some great players that pushed me to get better was the huge thing for me. I had the opportunity to turn pro after my sophomore year, and I just simply wasn't ready. The PGA Tour lifestyle is definitely a little different, and I just didn't really feel like I was mature enough to come out here and focus week in and week out and do this for a living.

9:12And then after my junior year, I already mentally decided I was ready to turn pro, and I'm glad I waited. And I feel like I've gotten to that point in my life where I'm mature enough to come out here and compete every week.

9:25Rich Eisen:Well, I imagine the glad you're waiting might be somewhat results oriented. But what else? How do you know now that you were not ready then? Just like I said, like my maturity levels definitely grew through my junior year. After my junior year, I felt like I did pretty much everything I could in college. There's a few things I would have liked to check off the box, but that's getting a little picky. And, um, but yeah, it's like, like I said, it's, it's a different lifestyle than college golf. And I was well aware of that when I had that opportunity in sophomore year and I, you know, you only get college once and, um, I was already cutting it a year short and I just didn't feel like I was ready to cut it too short.

10:13Rich Eisen:Okay. So how is it different? I mean, you've only been on the tour for a brief bit. How, how is it free time? What's the challenge here, Jackson? Yeah, college is great because you get to travel with six guys and then two coaches who are looking after you and making sure you're doing the right things, feeding you. And you get to spend time with some of your brothers. And when you get out on tour, like you have your friends, but it's a lot more lonely and self-oriented. So I think you just kind of have to be more on top of what you're doing to succeed. Okay. And so who's in your circle now? yeah i i don't have a huge circle my my coach comes when he can but um he we mainly talk over the phone my parents kind of come to one or the other it's uh just just still getting used to it i mean this is this is my fourth start um and just just really trying to take it all in and enjoy that's kind of been my mindset interesting so are you binge watching anything like what are you doing what do you got Jackson what are you doing um been spending a lot of time at the golf course um whether it's just coming here early to eat and hang out okay sitting in your hotel room alone is kind of boring and it's pretty easy like doom sprawl on Instagram and get lost Twitter but um yeah it's uh yeah yeah just trying to not spend as much time just in the hotel room Yeah, the meals are free at the course, though, right?

11:51Rich Eisen:Yeah. Yeah. Spreads? Not bad. Pretty good. I like that. How many texts did you have? The grand total number when you got back to your phone after winning on Sunday, Jackson? It was like 250 to 300. It was a pretty large amount. I'm still kind of trying to go through them. I kind of feel bad if I don't respond to them, but I appreciate the support. I mean, I heard from people I haven't talked to in a long time, and it's cool. yeah be careful Jackson I'm looking out for you here you just spent the last minute talking about your free time sitting in a hotel room doom scrolling and somebody texts you saying congratulations you should hit him back I don't want to get you in trouble you know what I mean like you just basically told everybody I have time to look at my phone just be careful all right like this is now your next level I'm just trying to help you out here drop a name though give me the name of the person that you heard from that you were like okay this is pretty cool I heard from after the win?

12:49There's a couple. My agent used to work in basketball, so he called Chris Paul and Curry after I won, and I got to talk to them, which was cool. And a couple of former golfers, or not former, older golfers like JT and Billy Horschel and Russell Hanley. It was cool to see some guys I looked up to shoot me a text.

13:14Rich Eisen:All right. That's pretty cool. that's that's that's great curry like what did he what did he say like what's your conversation with steph curry like jackson that's pretty cool man right yeah i mean it wasn't too long but he just said congrats and he was um just kind of impressed the way i handled myself and it was just it was all good kind words what's your nfl team who's your nfl team packers okay um i don't detect a Wisconsin accent from you, Jackson. My dad grew up in that area. Okay. And I went to Lambeau when I was like three years old. And I always liked watching Aaron Rodgers throw the ball.

13:54And I just kind of grew a Packers fan from there.

13:57Rich Eisen:Okay. And you're playing with Wyndham Clark and Keegan Bradley this week, huh? Correct. Okay. Well, you tell Wyndham we chatted, okay, Jackson? because I haven't brought this up on this program yet, have I? No. The photograph exists. I don't know if we have it anywhere. But I chatted with Wyndham Clark a week and a half before he wins back-to-back on the tour. Was Arnold Palmer? They won the U.S. Open, right? But before the U.S. Open. So just understand, talking to me puts you on a streak. is basically what I'm saying. Okay, I just had to have half of a night with Wyndham Clark, and he goes on a run.

14:45Rich Eisen:So imagine what it's going to be like for you after having already won and we talk. You know what I'm saying? We can talk every week if that's true. Hey, listen, you know, I'll help you pass the time. You know what I mean? Perfect. I'm not above being called a time killer, you know, in my life. you know we could talk football to the Packers what do you think before I let you go what do you think for this year last year we were young um I got hopes and you know I think Jordan loves for a really good year yeah as you know age is just a number Jackson you know what I'm saying you know that look at you you're just sitting right here doing this Jackson does the John deer feel like two years ago instead of two weeks ago?

15:34Yes, a little bit. That's actually in the town my dad grew up, so I have a lot of family friends there, and that's a pretty memorable event for me. So it kind of sticks in my brain a little longer, but it definitely does not feel like two weeks ago.

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18:10Rich Eisen:Did you ever? I did not get the chance to talk to him, but I saw his interview and the kind words he had. Congrats on everything going on. Awesome, man. I look forward to chatting with you more. And certainly, you know, good luck this week. Again, tell Wyndham I said hello. He'll understand. And Keegan, too. He's been on this program. That's right. Keegan's a Patriot fan. Big, big New England guy. Okay. Do the Packers play the Patriots this year? I don't. Let's look that one up. Put something on it, Jackson. You know what I mean? Actually, yes. Is that right? Week nine. Week nine. Let's go. And throw that gauntlet down in the middle of his backswing.

18:50Rich Eisen:See how that works. Does that work? Okay. Thanks. Take care of yourself, Jackson. Congrats. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Jackson Coyle.

19:00It's exciting. This kid's such a baller. Yeah. Giving off like young Spieth vibes. Just the trajectory and the hope and the thought. Like this guy, you know, multiple majors coming in his future. It's a future's bright, man. Tours in great shape. I love it. Yeah.

19:17Rich Eisen:And then again, the way that he swings. Violent. Whenever I swing and invariably don't connect properly. They're like, that's too fast. Yeah. You swung too fast. your tempo was off his follow-through that's the way i think i'm probably hitting it perfect he's unreal he's unreal i wanted to help him out he can't sit here and say i didn't get back to a whole bunch of people's texts after he just spends a minute saying i'm sitting in my room it's it's lonely i had time to go fishing but no in all seriousness though um the rookie season in the nfl for a lot of players is tough for various reasons one is because it's longer than a college football season where it used to be.

20:01Rich Eisen:Two, it's the spare time. Again, I don't know how many times he was running off to class in Auburn. You're on a team. It's a team event. There's team concepts to it. You're always constantly around your team. Around a team. But you're still around a team in the NFL. But when it's quitting time, it's like, now what? Well, guys go home to their families. But if you're 21, 22, 23, and you don't have a family yet, now what do you do? And the idle time can sometimes mess with people.

20:32Rich Eisen:i gotta get that windham did i ever get you that windham clark photo me with him i mean i heard some of the stories off camera oh no oh yeah that's that one here let me tell the story real quick do it yeah i won that is amazing i won skins at a golf gathering on long island back in may all right and i'm not good okay as you know all right I did watch some of the American Century. My golf nickname could be T-88. You're part of the 88 club. Part of the 88 club. Yeah, we mentioned that, right? All right. So I get some candy, okay? I get some candy. Yeah. And I wound up winning not one but two skins.

21:18Rich Eisen:Wow. That's like five Benjamins that's there. And I'm like sitting next to Wyndham Clark at dinner. Did you know he was going to be at dinner? No, I did not know he was going to be at dinner. He was on the golf course, just hanging out. And you were near the open venue this year, right? And it was right down the street from Shinnecock. And I think he was in town. That's what he was in town. He was in town to play Shinnecock. But here we are, the Hills, an outstanding establishment. What's up, Melbourne? Out there in Long Island. And I'm winning cash money. and the rest of the guys at the table know this is not right so i stood up i stood i stood up and i'm like speaking is the other person here at the table who knows what it's like to win money through playing golf well wyndham clark laughs i sit down that's the photograph and then you know what happens he wins the u.s open you keep forgetting he didn't just win the u.s open didn't he play in the arnold palmer that next weekend yeah no no it was in texas it was in the state of texas yeah because he said he was flying to texas next then what happened because this was on a saturday tell me what happened two sundays after this saturday chris he wins what do you win uh what's the name of the turn right again uh he wins the cj cup byron nelson Yeah, he won the Byron Nelson.

22:47Yeah. And then a month later, wins the U.S. Open. Yeah. And everyone's wondering, what happened to Wyndham Clark?

22:53Rich Eisen:This is what happened. So, dude, if Jackson Coivin wins this week. Oh, man. I found my talented golfer. Just talking to winners. And turning winners into more. Yeah, that's what I mean. Turning winners into bigger winners. That's what I do. That's what you did for me. What did I do for you? I was already a winner, and then you made me a bigger winner. Outside of golf. I see what you're saying. No, I can putt. I'm sorry. I'm focused on golf right now.

23:25Rich Eisen:Everyone at the table is like, really? Rich is getting two skins worth in that envelope? Oh, yeah. All right. I want to show my ignorance here, but I don't know what the skins are. Okay. So if you have the best score on the hole, okay, like if you birdie and everyone else's cars, you win the hole in a skin. Oh, okay. Right. That I get. And so this tournament was not only if you won, you know, your hole for you and your teammate, but it was actually a winner on the whole tournament large. Like nobody else birdied the hole with the candy or birdied the hole with the candy and an eagle. Then you win that money.

24:04Rich Eisen:So I not only won the hole for me and my teammate once, but that was a winner tournament wide on that hole twice. Okay. I get it. See what I'm saying? It's in there. Oh, I'm saying the two things. It's in there. And you're welcome, Wyndham, and potentially in advance, Jackson. The eyes and rub. Yeah. The eyes and rub. The bump. All right. Now we're done. On this subject matter, we still got half a show to go. All right. That had to feel amazing, man. What? Getting that money? Yeah. I mean, I know it's not a ton of cash. I appreciate the scenario. No, I thought you, I'm glad you meant me. I thought you were meaning Jackson.