Hour 2: Ohio State-Michigan Reactions, Broncos Survive, Justin Herbert Surgery

1 Dec 2025 · 47 min · 15 chapters

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The Rich Eisen Show Hour 2 covers three main sports topics: (1) College football—reactions to Ohio State’s win over Michigan in the Big House, including praise for Ohio State execution and quarterback play after an early Michigan interception; discussion of Michigan’s Bryce Underwood and the impact of turnovers/quarter readiness; and debate about the value of early rivalry matchups. Notable moments include Jeremiah Smith’s route and a disputed fumble/TD ruling, plus Ohio State’s postgame “no flag planting” behavior. (2) NFL—Denver Broncos’ overtime upset of the Commanders, framed as a microcosm of Denver’s season: offense struggles but clutch execution and a defense that pressures/sacks.

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Bo Nix’s sixth game-winning drive; Denver’s 51 sacks through 12 games; snapping a five-game overtime loss streak; and Denver’s one-seed positioning. (3) NFL—Justin Herbert’s broken left hand requiring surgery, and the Chiefs’ 6-6 inconsistency in one-score games, with a realistic “wild card” ceiling.

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Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss

1:30 to 2:15

A discussion about Lane Kiffin's situation at Ole Miss and coaching changes.

“My voice is raising an octave, it's so crazy.”

Surprises of Week 13

2:15 to 3:26

Analyzing unexpected outcomes from Week 13 in the NFL, including Marcus Mariota's name pronunciation.

“He has every right to do what he wants to do, man.”

Broncos Performance Review

3:26 to 6:05

Rich discusses the Denver Broncos' struggles and achievements during the season.

“Is that how you'd like it to pre-pronounce it?”

Bo Nix's Game-Winning Drive

6:05 to 9:09

Reviewing Bo Nix's performance and the significance of his game-winning drive.

“That's the Mariota way of saying overtime.”

Justin Herbert's Injury Update

9:09 to 11:16

Discussing Justin Herbert's hand injury and implications for the Chargers.

“They're at Vegas, pardon me, before they welcome in Green Bay in what could be, entering week 15, the national setup of Super Bowl preview.”

Chargers' Challenging Schedule

11:16 to 14:00

Analyzing the Chargers' tough final stretch and playoff chances.

“I don't think that scenario, along with the fact that they entered December four games, let me repeat that, four games better than the Kansas City Chiefs.”

Broncos and Chiefs Playoff Chances

14:00 to 16:48

Discussion on the playoff prospects for the Broncos and Chiefs amidst their current performance.

“Yeah, I'd be tough pressed to see them make the playoffs with that schedule.”

Mahomes' Honest Assessment of the Chiefs

16:48 to 19:08

Analysis of Patrick Mahomes' comments on the Chiefs' inconsistencies and playoff potential.

“Because the mistakes that they are making are costing them in one-score games.”

Chiefs' Wildcard Scenarios

19:08 to 22:54

Exploration of potential wildcard scenarios for the Chiefs and implications for playoffs.

“But at the end of the day, you've got to go out and do it on every single week, a weekend, week-out basis.”

Michigan-Ohio State Rivalry Reflections

26:27 to 28:00

Reflections on the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry and its recent history.

“This just in over the last four years when the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry turned on a dime with the Aiden Hutchinson, Hassan Haskins-led Jim Harbaugh Wolverines in a snowy day in the big house.”
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Ohio State-Michigan Game Analysis

28:00 to 39:07

Discussion of the recent Ohio State-Michigan game and its implications.

“And at some point, I knew it would all end.”

Sports Fan Dynamics and Social Media

40:03 to 42:01

Exploring the culture of sports fandom and social media interactions.

“I remember being in Pittsburgh earlier this year and experiencing the beautiful architecture and passion those fans have for their home teams.”

Discussion on Social Media Platforms

42:01 to 44:00

The hosts discuss their preferences between social media platforms and interactions with fans.

“By the way, the reason why I'm on threads as opposed to X is because it is a nicer spot.”

Discussion on Social Media Platforms

44:01 to 44:17

The hosts discuss their preferences between social media platforms and interactions with fans.

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Chicago Bears Performance Discussion

44:24 to 47:28

A caller discusses the Chicago Bears' surprising performance and coaching dynamics.

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1:27Now, on with the show. Hell, hell, hell, yeah!

1:32Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. My voice is raising an octave, it's so crazy. Live from The Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Talked to God and told me it's time to take a new step. It's a new chapter. The Rich Eisen Show, coming up on today's show. College football roundup, Monday night football preview, plus your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our number two of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We'll be taking your phone calls throughout the final two hours of this show. We already chopped up Lane Kiffin, his situation, not him personally.

2:15Rich Eisen:Well, you kind of chopped him up. No, I didn't. He has every right to do what he wants to do, man. Chopped him up. He has every right. And I thought Ole Miss was 100 % right for saying, no, you're not staying here. Absolutely. You're not staying here. Pete Golding's the guy that can actually take this ship from here. And if not, guess what? He's going to take the ship here from here. We're going to name him permanently, and that's the end of that. Because, you know, if any indication from the previous hire at LSU, if that passed his prologue, worked out for Marcus Freeman, who'd never done it before in the defensive mindset, certainly the rest of the team was into it.

2:55Rich Eisen:Sounds like the rest of the team's into this, too. so let's go makes sense instead of saying oh okay sure you stay here before you leave us for one of our arch rivals by the way lane visits both oxford and tennessee oxford and knoxville where his name lane is in fact a four-letter word of a different variety so like bucky dent and his first games against clemson i mean he's gonna it's it's gonna be on but he's incredibly talented and he did win everywhere he's been right or at least recently he has won 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the show uh i think the biggest surprise of week 13 out of all the that we we saw um or heard from week 13 is it's mariota not mariotta that i didn't i was jarring i did not i didn't know i didn't know it was mariotta for three hours that was jarring no at one point i think tariko did slip back into the mariotta was calling it mariotta it was like well i mean it's just it's because that's what we've been calling him for a while but how about we call him marcus well how about the fact that he said it in his open that as soon as i kept hearing them say mariotta all the time i thought well you basically told him that's how I pronounce my name.

4:24Rich Eisen:Is that how you'd like it to pre-pronounce it? Maybe he basically said yeah. But outside of that the surprise was the Commanders at 3-8 on their losing streak for six games gave the Denver Broncos quite the ride. Quite the ride. And he was open on the two-point play but he doesn't get his arm on it. They upset Denver. But I think that is also... Fun game. I think that is also a microcosm of the entire Broncos season, which is offense struggles, but when it comes time for rubber meat in the road, offense gets it done, and the defense is making some plays, more than not, going to sack you, going to put the pressure on you, and at the end of the day, they're going to make the winning play.

5:19Rich Eisen:and in tandem with a quarterback who has the ability to matriculate the ball when you need to and also in the same way we were talking about how the the bears don't turn it over bo nix doesn't take losses if you know of yardage doesn't take sacks and he did make one dreadful mistake throwing it right at yeah a first ballot hall of famer like oh by the way that's that's Bobby Wagner. 54-ish. But when it all comes down to it, Bo Nix, his sixth game-winning drive of the season, which is what this was in overtime. By the way, did you hear how I said it? That's the Mariota way of saying overtime. Overtime.

6:09Rich Eisen:Yeah. Or the Spiro Deidus way of saying overtime. Overtime. Game time. On the line, R.J. Harvey crossed the goal line. Cooper. And over time. Cooper's celebrating. And, yes, he might be off the guillotine because of that. And it's the sixth game-winning drive of his season. It ties Elway for the most in the season in Denver history in 1985 Elway. 85 Elway. I mean, not talking helicopter. This one's for John Elway. That's peak John. You know what I mean?

6:43Rich Eisen:Makes it a tough combination to beat. Now, you could see, again, the Broncos on their now nine-game win streak snapped a five-game overtime loss streak. Did you know that? They lost five straight overtime games. And if it wasn't for Nick Benito, it would have been a sixth. And they now are currently the one seed in the AFC rooting for the Giants tonight. As the Broncos know, the Giants with Jackson Dart can give you a scare. You just got to maybe come back from 90 million points down to win. And the last time the Broncos finished as the one seed was when the Super Bowl was in Santa Clara, Super Bowl 50, and they went on to win it with a defensive MVP, which is what probably the Broncos would have if they win this conference and go to the Super Bowl.

7:40Rich Eisen:51 sacks for the Broncos now, fourth team in the last 40 seasons with more than 50 sacks in their first 12 games of a season. Last team to do it was the 2000 Saints. How about that? When they had 55 sacks. So, Sean Payton, kudos to him. It's his 11th season with 10 or more wins as a head coach. That's fifth most in NFL history. Tom Landry has 16. And we'll tell you who's fourth on that list in a second. But here's Bo Nix after the win. It was told a long time ago by one of my many offensive coaches that pressure is a privilege, and not many people get to be in that opportunity. So if it's going to be me who gets this opportunity, I'm going to make the best of it.

8:30And it doesn't always go your way. Fortunately for us, it's gone our way in these games. But last year, we were on the opposite end of these close ones. And so I understand what it's like to be on the other side of things. but you just got to keep moving on and you got to have a belief that you're just going to find a way and you know didn't look great there for a minute but we just found a way to make the next best play and you know at the end of the day score one more point than they did and that's the difference in the in the game in this league it's it's uh um every game comes down to the last possession pretty much and so um you just have to you know kind of accept the fact and um just put yourself in that moment and don't change anything just go out and execute do you think when he was going on

9:18Rich Eisen:the the platitude of palooza there um he did realize it was just a one point win for them or he just that's just a phrase he's probably heard over and over again just be one point probably just a phrase because that's all they were was just one point better which is all that matters they have 10 wins eight are one scores they this team is kind of chiefsian to me of the last couple years they have body switched it kind of feels like it don't know well certainly since they were getting some calls at the end there too right i didn't think that was a a false start and terry mccauley was saying that's not right intentional grounding either that brought a third and 25 about that by the way mariotta overcame to force over time it's gonna take some getting used to but um the broncos bandwagon that was so full over the summer that by the opening of the season they were trying to get people off the bandwagon by selling seats to future bandwagons um i don't think any of those broncos bandwagon jumpers or even diehard orange crushers okay could have even dreamt of the scenario where they enter december as the one seed that could be fleeting we'll see what happens on monday night with the patriots but But even if the Patriots get their 11th win tonight, they're on a bye next week, and then Denver takes on Vegas in Denver, which means they win that game, and they do enter the final four games of the season as the one seed.

11:07Rich Eisen:They're at Vegas, pardon me, before they welcome in Green Bay in what could be, entering week 15, the national setup of Super Bowl preview.

11:22Rich Eisen:I don't think that scenario, along with the fact that they entered December four games, let me repeat that, four games better than the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't think anybody on that bandwagon or diehards in the Rocky Mountains and the surrounding areas could have even dreamt that is possible. But that is in fact the case.

11:53Rich Eisen:The Broncos are perfectly positioned to win this conference and certainly the division. Two games better than the Chargers, who now do look like they're going to have a shadow at worst and an injured version at best of Justin Herbert the rest of the way. Look at that left, like almost, what does that look like? An oven mitt? It's not that bad. It kind of looked like a superhero's glove, right? I don't know whatever kept his left hand together because he needs surgery to repair a broken bone. Maybe as we speak, Justin Herbert is going to finish the season with a freshly surgically repaired non-throwing hand.

12:47Rich Eisen:It's like a Nintendo Power Glove. Oh, yeah. Remember those things? That's it. Okay. Well, hopefully there's some Infinity Stone additions that they can put in there. Because, I mean, listen, it doesn't sound great. And it's the last thing. Oh, you know, it's no big deal. their quarterback needs hand surgery before the week 14 Monday night finale on ESPN against the Eagles.

13:17Rich Eisen:Without our tackles. But good news for the Chargers is they are two games behind the Broncos and they've already beaten Denver. As a matter of fact, they're the last team to beat Denver back in week three. Remember Denver started the season one and two without having trailed in a single one game, a single one of the games at all. Well, since that 1-2 start, they've won nine in a row. Take a 10-win record into December, and the Chargers now have a vicious stretch. Out of all the teams left in this AFC West race, home for Philly, at Kansas City, at Dallas, home for Houston, at Denver. that is a brutal final five you could put that up against anyone else's final five and that might be the toughest one and they're going to go into this stretch without their tackles hopefully for them getting omarion hampton back and then somehow some way their quarterback not missing time or a healthy left hand you know what i mean i i it's it's not optimum but Jim Harbaugh, as you know, can create belief where there's a lot of disbelief and a lot of Chargers fans looking for a trapdoor opening up despite the Chargers being the five seed right now at eight and four.

14:46Rich Eisen:Yeah, I'd be tough pressed to see them make the playoffs with that schedule. We shall see, sir. Especially with the way Houston's coming on. It's still better, as we just described to you, the conundrum for the Broncos. It's still better than what the Chiefs are dealing with right now.

15:07I mentioned moments ago talking about Sean Payton entering the top five all-time of coaches

15:18Rich Eisen:with double-digit victory seasons with 10 wins for this Broncos team. That's his 11th season as a head coach in the NFL with his team reaching at least 10 wins. On the list in front of him is Tom Landry with 16. Third all-time with 19 is Andy Reid. And I will tell you, I am now, as somebody that is firmly in the world of media types. I just call myself a media type. Talking heads, whatever you want to call me. I have been firmly in the camp of, I'll believe it when I see it with the Kansas City Chiefs not making the playoffs.

16:05Rich Eisen:And they're now 6-6, which is a record Mahomes has never had as a profession, as a professional player. As I told you last week, the stat that I keep being blown away by, or at least the nugget, the fact that I keep being blown away by, is the earliest a Chiefs season has ever ended with Mahomes as their starting quarterback is overtime in the AFC Championship game. First season as a starter, lost in overtime to Tom Brady in the AFC Championship game, then won a Super Bowl, then lost one, then lost in overtime in the AFC Championship game to Joe Burrow, then made the Super Bowl ever since. Win or lose.

16:44Rich Eisen:Well, this year, we might see an earlier exit. And I'm finally believing it. Because the mistakes that they are making are costing them in one-score games. They didn't lose a single one-score game last year. This year, they have only one win in such games, and that was the overtime win against Indianapolis that they pulled out of their 20-9 deficit orifice at home a couple weeks ago in the fourth quarter to force overtime and win it. And then they just do unchiefs-like things. Ten penalties for 119 yards against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day. They did take the lead, and it looked like, okay, they're going to show up and they're going to boat race the Cowboys, and that's the end of that.

17:34Rich Eisen:Then the defense just couldn't stop a cold. Well, it's tough to stop George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb and Javante Williams. When wait for it, they all score, right? Sure did. And I just want to be accurate here on that front. Pickens did not score, but he almost did after he pirouetted out of a short fire tackle and jumped over somebody. And Dak went off again. But the Chiefs also had the ability to score right before halftime and right after halftime, and they came away with no points. That didn't happen. The final drive that the Cowboys put a nail, one of the nails in the coffin that Mahomes tried to pry open at the end by finding Xavier Worthy wide open over the middle after he was escaped a sack twice, right?

18:26Rich Eisen:It was just like what? But that's why I'm always in the camp of I'll see you when I believe it. Yeah. Because that play was over and then the game was not over until it was. But the reason why they won it is because they went up by two scores after Rasheed Rice dropped one that hit him right in the hands on the 50-yard line. This is a guy that had two scores. It just works and then it doesn't.

18:53Rich Eisen:So on Chiefs-like things are happening to the Chiefs. who are now 6-6, and Mahomes was asked what the ceiling for this team is. Our ceiling is playing in the Super Bowl. We have all the same guys. We've added players. But at the end of the day, you've got to go out and do it on every single week, a weekend, week-out basis. We can beat anybody, but we've shown that we can lose to anybody. So we've got to be more consistent. It starts with me being consistent throughout the entire game, not in just big moments. That's something that we have to do throughout an entire game and week to week. It's not just one time.

19:27And we obviously see the last week we have a big win, and then you come here and play another good football team, and you don't come to play. And so the ceiling can be what it is, but until you put it on the football field, you won't be able to go out there and win football games.

19:39Rich Eisen:What an honest assessment, I think. And I don't like talking in absolutes, okay? I just don't.

19:53Rich Eisen:but um i think the ceiling for the chiefs the realistic ceiling for the chiefs in the regular season now is is to make it as a wild card i think the ship has sailed on winning the division for a 10th straight time i can't believe i'm saying okay you feel all right like a cold press or something I might need a moment, but dead air doesn't work on a simulcast. Oh, man, Eric's not going to call you back now. That's all right. I think he understands what time it is as well. All right, cool. Because you look at the situation. They are four back of the Broncos. They would have to, obviously, if they win out, they would beat the Broncos on Christmas Day as well.

20:37Rich Eisen:If they win out, they're 11-6. I don't know what the other tiebreakers are but it doesn't matter because I think the Broncos win at least twice the rest of the way you look at the Broncos remaining schedule I have it here right in front of me they're at Vegas they're home for Green Bay and Jacksonville and they're at Kansas City in the Chargers I kind of feel like there's two wins there including their next one what do you think they're going to go one and four the rest of the way have only 11 wins and the Chiefs win out. And as for the Chiefs the rest of the way, Sunday night home against a Houston team that's won four in a row and defensively is getting after the world.

21:21Rich Eisen:Home for the Chargers at Tennessee, there's that Denver game on Christmas on Netflix and then at Vegas. They can win out and have Denver go one and four and the rest of the tie breaks work in their favor. And thus, that's the way they win their 10th straight division. And the problem was if they don't win the division, their best path, the way that I see it right now, is they wind up tied. They wind up tied with either the Colts or Houston and Jacksonville. They're rooting for Jacksonville to win the AFC South because, as you know, they've already lost to Jacksonville. I've been saying for weeks, the problem for the Chiefs is if they're a wildcard team, they've lost every single occupant of the wildcard department.

22:13Rich Eisen:Currently open for business in the AFC standings, if we can see those. Jacksonville has now removed itself from the wildcard equation after the Texans beat the Colts and the Jacksonville Jaguars beat the Titans. their 8-4 record is good enough for third in the conference. They're in first place right now, taking on the Colts next week and for the first of two times they currently hold other tie breakers on the Colts to put them in that position the Chiefs have beaten the Colts and if they beat the Texans if either of those two teams wind up not winning the division in the AFC South and wind up being a wild card team, then all the Chiefs have to do is tie the Texans or the Colts.

23:04So if the Jaguars beat the Colts next week, and the Colts are now 8-5,

23:10Rich Eisen:and the Chiefs beat the Texans, they'll leapfrog the Texans, and then they're only one behind the Colts who they would hope would then lose some of these games in division. that's all they have to do is hope the Jaguars win they don't have to see them in a tie break situation and don't even have to worry about the bills and charges just focus on the AFC South hope those results break for you which they can and win as many games you possibly can and then you can talk about the Super Bowl being your ceiling that's the way I'm seeing the Chiefs right now entering December ESPN Analytics has them at 42 % to make the playoffs

23:52All right.

23:54Rich Eisen:It's 3 % division. It's better than a Dumb and Dumber chance. 3%, we're getting towards milk here. Yeah. And so it sure looks like their reign atop the division is over with six wins and six losses. 844-204-RICH number to dial here on the Rich Eisen Show mea culpa's I've been writing checks verbally and that check was returned to sender and the big house on Saturday

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26:17Rich Eisen:Back here on our Rich Eisen show, simulcast on Disney Plus and the ESPN app everywhere. Also ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. This just in. This just in over the last four years when the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry turned on a dime with the Aiden Hutchinson, Hassan Haskins-led Jim Harbaugh Wolverines in a snowy day in the big house. When that happened, it was a great day. Great day around here, and then the next year, the next year, going into the horseshoe with J.J. McCarthy and his first season there, and Michigan haven't lost a single game, and they go in there and beat them in the horseshoe, beat C.J.

27:03Rich Eisen:Stroud in the horseshoe, you know, sending Garrett Wilson into the NFL season, you know, without a win against Michigan in his last game there, and then they go back to the big house, and Blake Corum pops one on them, and they pop them in the mouth, and Michigan does go on to win the national championship to date. the last undefeated national champion in collegiate football. And then last year, supposed to end the streak, Michigan was without Harbaughn, without a lot of players, and they're going with a walk-in quarterback and win that game. That was totally unexpected. Four wins in a row. As you know, I've been talking with my chest.

27:53Because, you know, it had been a while. Got my words and my body parts handed to me by Ohio State and Urban Meyer

28:02Rich Eisen:and whenever for all those years. I've been talking. And at some point, I knew it would all end. At some point. It's always cyclical. That's what happens with a rivalry. But a fifth in a row would have been really sweet, especially with Ohio State being undefeated and Michigan now having the wunderkind who came in here, Bryce Underwood. kind of to come in here over the summer. Talking smack to LeBron. Came in here and talked about it, and then Bryce Underwood in his first game against Ohio State.

28:39Rich Eisen:Started okay. Michigan got the ball, marched down the field, got a field goal, and then Julian Sane, the kid who they've got in a Heisman hopeful position, with their stod-wide receivers, throws an interception. I mean, what a way for this game to start. I'm sitting there with my buddy Jimmy and Cooper and dogs, and I'm like, is this the day? Is this possibly the day with snow coming? The answer was an emphatic no. It was not. Ohio State came into the big house after having a disastrous start to this 2025 version and hit my wolverines in the mouth repeatedly out executed michigan out tough michigan out coached michigan out did everything start to finish now what we have on the screen here is a moment that my wolverine friends thought was a brief loss of the football by jeremiah smith as he was crossing the goal line to take the lead on michigan for the first time in this game on a by the way absurd route that jeremiah smith ran did you see that he's so good i mean he could start for all 32 right now i mean that's i mean that's what everybody's saying coming in listen not the cow excuse me sir stop it you would start nice that route that he ran was absurd is the reason why scouts are drooling all over number four right now yeah it's absurd he has to play another year as if carnell tate's not a first round wide receiver yeah also okay and um and for a moment i thought i was going to finally benefit on a rule that i would like out of football which is if you fumble and you step out of bounds as it looked like smith was going to do um it looked for a hot minute that they were going to take that touchdown away which would have been a gift from the football gods that i wasn't expecting and of course they said that they didn't have a proper view of it and said that the ruling was upheld, which is kind of weird because if you don't have a proper rule of it, the place stands is called, but whatever.

31:10Rich Eisen:That's Big Ten language for the referees there. And even, hey, listen, even if you feel my fellow Wolverines that we were robbed by that, there is a Roman Wilson touchdown from a couple years ago in the big house that Ohio State fans thought they ripped from his hands. Remember that one? Okay. Maybe it's evening things out, but it didn't matter anyway. Michigan just wasn't it's unfortunate to say but I'm always going to shoot you straight just we're weren't equipped. This kid Julian Sand was making every throw after that interception. He shook it off which is what terrific quarterbacks are supposed to do.

31:48Rich Eisen:He shook it off in a way that other quarterbacks that have been playing in this big game for the last few years weren't able to. And then when the snow started coming down and this was supposed to be the weather in which Michigan was supposed to dominate and out tough Ohio State they decided to just run it down Michigan's throat which was the toughest thing to take actually the toughest thing to take was after the game seeing Michigan try to defend the M in the middle of the field right after they couldn't properly defend their own end zone on occasion uh even when buckeye brutus whatever the hell brutus buckeye whatever the hell um stepped out in the snow and did you see drew a script ohio on like the one yard line and then an x over the m in the end zone that got wiped out real quick well i mean they tried but they had they they did everything right including the way they handled the win afterwards this is You know Ryan Day had every reason to crow.

32:50Rich Eisen:He had every reason to stick it where the sun does not shine. But this is what he had to say after the game to the press. As you can imagine, over the years, after winning this game, what I'd say in this press conference, and I'm going to save all those comments because I think the best thing to do is win with humility, and that's what we're going to do, and I think that speaks to our program. It speaks to what it means to be a Buckeye. And we wanted to take this rivalry game back this year. And so the way that our guys played certainly spoke to that. Mission accomplished, Ryan Day. You took it back.

33:28Rich Eisen:That is no doubt about it. And you know what really had to really stick in my coach's craw was when the Michigan players were out on the M after the game, making sure that there was no flag planted. Did you see this? Ryan Day went up to Coach Moore and said, basically can you get your players off the field here we're not planting flags here today and them being here is what could create the ruckus and Moore I think understood that and was being told by the other coach on his own field can you get your players off and it was the right thing to do and that had a really stick in Sharon Moore's craw because it was the right thing to do get off the field none of this other stuff yeah cool and i i i it made me feel silly as to the way i did react to the flag planting and the oh stuff and that i need to act like a better somebody of my own age i swear to you i i went through i saw that moment i'm like how dare he go up to my coach on on this field but he did it the right way like and i i kind of feel like i want to apologize to Ryan Day the way that I've been having fun at his expense.

34:45Rich Eisen:Honestly. And no notes. Pitch perfect. Ohio State going into that stadium, do what they did with their receivers, Tate up top, Smith on a perfect route, touchdowns, and then Bo Jackson, what a name, down Michigan's throat with other running backs, and then afterwards, get off, don't plant a flag, I'm not even I'm going to say what I want to say here in this microphone. On to the Big Ten Championship and trying to go back-to-back national champions. No notes? Yeah, I think big on you for admitting that. And I think it also speaks to where college football's at, where there's bigger games now than this, unfortunately.

35:28Rich Eisen:There are in terms of the ultimate goal, but I'm already hearing massive recriminations on my side of the aisle, if you will about losing this game and and and seeing the way bryce underwood the number of times that joel clatt on the broadcast was like that guy was open that guy was open if he was only able to just wait a beat here there makes me feel like was he prepared enough for this game to be straight up honest with you and that's one of the things that i think you know my guy coach more needs to needs to look at get it get a quarterback coach specifically for him like how can we make sure because he's going in the next year he's going into um the horseshoe and it's going to be tougher it's going to be tougher and because smith i don't think tate's going to be here i know every browns fan is looking at tate saying that's the guy we should get in the first round next year but smith's not going anywhere and and they're just going to reload and so he's got to be you know prepared for the moment certainly you know again i i love the kid he came here and sports you sent me this i didn't see that sports center well i i saw it on lebron's story actually i yeah about how he you know when he came in here talking about lebron and yeah because he did meet lebron and he's you know again he was 17 who was in here and so he he's feeling really good about himself and lebron retweeted it when he basically said you know it's all over for ohio state and i and again you know again he he was here and and was kind enough to come in here and he's also a brash young kid but i'm just wondering how will he process this moving forward how will michigan process this movement of course it is it's more than just a game it's a legacy game and all of that stuff but for ohio state it's just like michigan you know in many of the previous years when jim was there uh and when sharon was the acting head coach it's a stepping stone to something bigger while preventing the other team from doing what it's doing you know so that's the way i'm i'm reacting to it and and i will say this one more time uh why the big 10 is happy to have indiana and ohio state put their undefeateds against each other in a game prior to this college football playoff like what are we doing what do you want you want one of these teams to get nicked up you want one of these teams to put something on film on tape you know what i mean same thing in the sec it's alabama georgia and it's just why what's the point well i mean especially if none of the results are supposed to matter affect the final 12 right right and and alabama is maybe a bubble team if they get blown out are they out now it's kind of weird i don't know so championship weekend needs to go bye-bye i think that's inevitable but so i mean this part and parcel of everything that's gone on in college football over the past few years.

38:28Rich Eisen:It's just, once again, the world is changing, and there's no adults in the room to try and figure out a better way to do it, where all the presidents and coaches and athletics directors are all on the same page. But congrats to Ohio State. A full thumping, and they handled it, you know, in the manner in which I'm appreciative. 844-204-RICH, number to dial, phone calls coming up. ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. Progressive Commercial Insurance can protect your small business with over 30 coverage options. An easy-to-use mobile app, personalized discounts, and more. Get a quote in as little as eight minutes at ProgressiveCommercial.com.

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41:08Rich Eisen:Dude, you by the way, we just showed Mike Del Tufo talking about insufferable Michigan fans. So it's me, Charles Woodson. That's the ones in your life that you find. I have other friends. Name me a name. How should I not sit there and go, I don't have to name names. It's a fact. Oh, and then you troll on him and him out of the blue. So I asked you just point blank. I'm going to ask you point blank. Yes. But you think that's cool? Hold on a second. I'm going to ask you just point blank. Do you hate a sequel? No, I get trolled on more than anyone on this show. But not by anyone in this room. That's not true.

41:44He doesn't have a lot. Susie will say you're too tough on Mike. Your mother would. Anyone will. I have people that call. He's got a point. It's a fact. But you bring it on. I bring it on. But we do it to your face on the show, and it's all good nature.

42:00Rich Eisen:I have to sit there on threads. By the way, the reason why I'm on threads as opposed to X is because it is a nicer spot. I'm not saying that the owner of threads is above reproach like the owner of X, but the owner of X is so beyond reproach. I can't post on it anymore. I'm with you on that. I mean, we definitely post videos on it because it is a platform that I did before all of this stuff. You know, I built over a million followers. I don't know how many are real, you know, but and my account is based in the United States, unlike others. but bottom line is I'm on there to avoid this sort of discourse, certainly not from somebody who I look at every day and looks at me.

42:48Rich Eisen:No, no, no. And you think I'm sitting here talking about this stuff as I'm insufferable. I congratulated TG on his win on Dallas. That makes so much too. On Thursday. It did. You actually text me back. He doesn't text you guys back. You text me back. Let's talk about something. Oh my God. You did. By the way, that's news that you texted anybody back. Really? Really? Congrats. Yeah, I just said that. By the way, I trolled the Chiefs fans. Don't let me start pulling out texts. You shouldn't be proud of trolling. I'm a troll. It's not something to be proud of. I'm sorry if you feel like I'm insufferable.

43:23Rich Eisen:Charles Woodson is every reason. He's been in the arena. But I will say, he's actually... Charles Woodson is a goat. He can say whatever he wants. What I say is... Certainly since the guy to his left is 100 % rooting in a certain way and being smug about it because he's got seven wins. And of course. And he holds up the number seven at the Michigan fans. I love you and I love Charles. I just, you guys, when you were winning, when you guys were winning, if you look at the definition of insufferable. I will do it. I'm looking at it. Good for you. Thank you. 844-204-Rich-Nermidon. Let's be more hopeful.

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44:39Oh, don't. Now, don't become insufferable.

44:44Rich Eisen:Otherwise, Del Tufo is going to threat at you, you know, not by name. I got to be honest. I'm looking at every single Chicago Bear win-loss game played by everybody. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven that were played. Not one of the seven had them winning this game in Philadelphia. Not one. No, it was definitely a surprise. It was definitely a surprise, and it's a good surprise. But that just shows how Ben Johnson has turned the culture around, turned the team around. He's built the structure so great. Started with an offensive line, bought into the run game, believes in Caleb, but he limits him to not mess up so much to where it doesn't affect the team outcome as much.

45:33Rich Eisen:Correct. Yeah, so I called in because two months ago, I just want to remind you guys, two months ago you guys did your prediction for the NFC North. You guys all had the Bears in fourth place? That might be true. I don't know. Chris, you were higher on the Bears than most here. I checked it yesterday. Why are you bringing up old stuff? No, listen. We're not just first place in the NFC North. We're first place in the NFC. in the NFC. And you've got to finish strong in order to stay there, because now you are in the high-rent district. You've earned your way into the high-rent district, and you are in the penthouse of said high-rent district right now, and now comes Ben Johnson's first whack or whack at the Packers rivalry.

46:22Ben Johnson should be coach of the year.

46:24Rich Eisen:Well, he and Vrabel, I believe, are the current occupants from both conferences. Vrabel has been a coach before, and he's done the same thing with the Titans restructured them and made them a great team coming into the year everybody was doubting Ben Johnson was not sure this guy was an OC, never a head coach are we sure about this guy now he's got a first place team in the NFC so that's one Ben Johnson should be in first place coach of the year another thing is I'm not saying he should win it but Kyle Monungay should be in the conversation for offensive rookie of the year. And Mo Saab, we're up against the end of the hour on the radio, and I'm sure you're listening to this show, hopefully, on ESPN 1000 in Chicago.

47:16Rich Eisen:I'm sorry, I've got to run. Call back, bud, because, again, we're literally five seconds away from the hour ending here. I don't mean to cut him off, but since nobody's cutting the Bears off, basically, for the last two months, except for the Ravens. hour three coming up right here on the rich eisen show the rich eisen show podcast the right window treatments change everything your sleep your privacy the way every room looks and feels at blinds.com we've spent 30 years making it surprisingly simple to get exactly what your home needs we've covered over 25 million windows and have 50 000 five-star reviews to prove we deliver whether you diy it or want a pro to handle everything from measure to install we have you covered.

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Rich weighs in on the Denver Broncos’ overtime win over the Washington Commanders on Sunday Night Football, how Justin Herbert’s surgery on his non-throwing hand could impact the Los Angeles Chargers’ playoff hopes, and if we’re likely to see the Kansas City Chiefs on the outside looking in when the postseason rolls around.

Michigan alum Rich reacts to the end of the Wolverines’ 4-game winning streak to Ohio State and offers up a Mea Culpa to Buckeyes head coach Ryan Day.

Rich and the guys debate what’s more insufferable: Mike Del Tufo trolling “insufferable” Michigan Fans or Del Tufo being insufferable.
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