In short
Jade Cargill discusses her upcoming WWE Women’s Championship match vs Rhea Ripley at Clash in Italy (Sunday, May 31), plus her heel persona, title mindset, and training influences; the show also includes sports banter (NBA, NFL, baseball/Ohtani) and a Star Wars story.
Guests (main)
Jade Cargill, WWE superstar in her third year on the main roster; multi-year champion (five years in the game per her), known for heel work and for teaming with B-Fab and Meechan. She says she’s “naturally blessed” (body/face) and enjoys being a “bad guy.” She also mentions playing collegiate basketball at Jacksonville University and pro experience (WNBA for Lash; overseas for herself).
Key claims
She’ll approach Rhea Ripley differently—less “playing with her food,” more going for the kill. She says the European crowd is “electric” and she hopes for boos. She credits Mark Henry’s guidance and says Rip Rogers trained her intensely early in her career. She claims B-Fab and Meechan hesitated in a prior match, and she’s confident they’ll execute better.
Notable examples
The “Kiss of Death” statue in Barcelona’s Poblenu Cemetery; her first Live TV match against Shaquille O’Neal; WrestleMania moments with Naomi and Bianca; her “checkpoint” feeling after winning the title; assembling a basketball team with Lash, Nia, Bailey, and Bianca.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroducing WWE Superstar Jade Cargill
0:00 to 0:22
O'Shea Jackson Jr. introduces WWE superstar Jade Cargill.
“And for a limited time, college students get...”
Introducing WWE Superstar Jade Cargill
1:27 to 2:15
O'Shea Jackson Jr. introduces WWE superstar Jade Cargill.
“Live from The Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”
Jade's Upcoming Match and European Crowds
2:15 to 3:54
Jade Cargill discusses her mindset for the upcoming match in Europe.
“Yeah, you know, especially somebody who's had gold around her waist, you know, doing big things.”
The Art of Being a Heel
3:54 to 5:07
Jade shares her perspective on playing a heel in wrestling.
“I think last time I was in Europe, I had a match against Liv.”
Reflections on Championship Success
5:07 to 8:10
Jade reflects on her journey and feelings after winning the championship.
“We are blessed, but what I eat don't make you anything.”
Exploring Historic Cemeteries
8:10 to 10:09
Jade shares her unique hobby of visiting historic cemeteries while in Barcelona.
“Now, I know you told us you were in Barcelona.”
Assembling a Dream Basketball Team
10:09 to 13:14
Jade picks her ideal basketball team from fellow wrestlers for a tournament.
“You guys got some amazing cemeteries there in L.A.”
Learning from Past Matches
13:14 to 14:00
Jade discusses lessons learned from past matches and teamwork dynamics.
“Now, you listed your teammates right there.”
WWE Dynamics and WrestleMania Memories
14:00 to 20:30
Explore the dynamics of WWE teams and memorable moments from WrestleMania.
“That was an opportunity to capitalize on.”
Jade Cargill's Journey and Influence
20:30 to 20:49
Jade Cargill shares her experiences and aspirations in wrestling.
“Sunday, May 31st at Clash and Italy, 2 p.m.”
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Jade Cargill's Journey and Influence
20:50 to 21:28
Jade Cargill shares her experiences and aspirations in wrestling.
“Hey, you know, I got to do one of these reads, you know?”
Jade Cargill's Journey and Influence
21:34 to 22:21
Jade Cargill shares her experiences and aspirations in wrestling.
“Most protein drinks ask you to choose between results and taste.”
Celebrity Encounters and Sports
22:21 to 22:46
Discussion about encounters with celebrities and sports topics.
“In a world in need of a hero, one man rises to the challenge in style.”
Celebrity Encounters and Sports
22:49 to 28:00
Discussion about encounters with celebrities and sports topics.
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Discussing the Playoffs and Game Seven Hopes
28:00 to 29:24
A conversation about the current state of the playoffs and hopes for a game seven.
“I'm not a fan of how it goes down, but we got to take the good with the bad, and it's just the way it is right now.”
Drake May's Controversial Question
29:24 to 31:10
Analyzing a peculiar question posed to quarterback Drake May and the implications of such inquiries.
“after they seemingly have left you in game five.”
Addressing Cringe Questions in Sports Media
31:10 to 34:24
A discussion on the appropriateness of certain questions asked by reporters to athletes.
“I don't even know if it's criticized or complimented.”
Shohei Ohtani's Performance Debate
34:24 to 36:51
The hosts debate whether Ohtani should continue pitching or focus exclusively on hitting.
“I need to know where he is right now just so I have an idea of what vicinity he's in.”
Personal Anecdotes and Family Ties to Baseball
36:51 to 40:11
Sharing personal stories about family traditions surrounding baseball games and players.
“Clearly, Overreaction Monday, this is probably on a Tuesday, is on in the Dodger clubhouse.”
Memorable Moments from the Show
43:17 to 44:34
The hosts reminisce about past experiences and first meetings on the show.
“Because I'm pretty sure this was the first date you and I met.”
Kobe and Shaq's Legendary Play
44:34 to 46:29
A discussion about the iconic lob play between Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal.
“in a way, what an important day, what an important day, August 13th, 2018 was, I mean, I got to look at it as my show anniversary, NCW's, the first planting of that seed.”
Reflections on Staples Center
46:29 to 47:01
The hosts share their thoughts on the atmosphere and changes at Staples Center.
“I just remember sitting on the couch like, whoa.”
Transcript
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1:29Yay, yay, yay! With guest host O'Shea Jackson Jr. Yes, sir. Well, you're not a nap old thing. That's the internet. Live from The Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, actor Dave Franco. Coming up, WWE superstar Jade Cargill. Actor Utkar Shambutkar. And now, sitting in for rich, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Welcome back to the Rich Eisen Show. My man Dave Franco killing the game. Yeah, that was dope. But TJ, it's time for our next guest, man. Let's go. And, you know, we've been dying to get this person for the No Contents Wrestling Podcast. But we understood we had a guest list to fill out for the Rich Eisen Show.
2:14Plus, you got to get to a certain level to attract some of the greatness. Yeah, you know, especially somebody who's had gold around her waist, you know, doing big things. and some might say taking the wrestling world by storm, TJ. Here to talk about her upcoming match at Clash in Italy against Rhea Ripley for the WWE Women's Championship, please welcome WWE superstar Jade Cardale. How you doing there, Jade? What's up, guys? How y 'all doing? I'm good, I'm good. Just touched down here in Barcelona. Tired, but hey, we're here. We're going to get it going. Barcelona. Not big place. I mean, I'm working.
2:53I'm working. I'm trying to enjoy myself at the same time, but I'm working. Listen, we just in L.A. in traffic. You know, Barcelona. I love that for you. I love that. I live in Atlanta, so I am no stranger to that traffic. It's just bad. Right, right. So, you know, you have, it's not even that she's still fresh into WWE. You know, you're going on your third year. You've had a couple of WrestleManias under your belt. Yeah. What goes into your mind as you head into this match with Rhea Ripley, but also that European crowd? You know, they get a little rowdy overseas. Does that go into your mind as you go into this match?
3:36No, not at all. I'm going to approach this match totally different. Like I was saying in previous interviews, I was more so just playing with my food and not going for the kill. Just entertaining the crowd, getting all high on that. and then she took advantage and she struck when the opening was there. But the European crowd is crazy. It's electric. It's nothing like it. I love coming to Europe. I think last time I was in Europe, I had a match against Liv. That ain't go as planned, but either way, the crowd is so electric and I'm hoping to hear a crowd full of booze tomorrow. Well, Sunday. Now, you see right there, TJ, she's feeding off the booze.
4:16Now, we've seen you do some face work, but you seem to be in your bag with the heel work. Indeed. You have a little bit more fun as a heel. Yeah, I'm a natural heel. People hate what they can't be. You get what I'm saying? Like, I look good. I smell good. I mean, I'm one of one. Nobody has a body like mine, and this is year-round. This is not just for a season of competition or whatever you want to call it. I'm just naturally blessed. And I'm gorgeous, by the way. So it's not just about the body. It's about the face as well. there's not one woman that looks like me regardless of how hard they work I'm just God given so it is what it is man it's fun being a bad guy what's bad about that it's so funny and people envy that people yeah people envy what they can't be and my haters keep me paid I love it good or bad people talking about me I'm still gonna trim I'm saying you said bad like there's a she's doing just stating facts about herself she's saying stuff that we can look at and see everything she's saying is correct i don't see that being a bad guy jade i'm just saying you just i mean i mean you gotta think about it i didn't come from this is not something that i always wanted to do that's something that people can hate on and being that my first match ever was on live tv against shaquille o 'neal against our champion cody rose who gets that unless your legacy no way i was thrown on tv people can say what they want but i continue to tread swim i've been champion and that's five years in the game i've always been on the main roster you get what i'm saying like experiment or not is working so i can see how people can dislike that although i don't take it for um i don't take disadvantage of that because i work really really i don't take advantage of that i work really really hard from where i'm at but people gonna hate regardless of what it i mean i got all this stacked up outside of this.
6:08I'm truly blessed. That's envy. What can you do? I'm blessed. You're blessed. I'm blessed. We are blessed, but what I eat don't make you anything. Now you talked about that, that championship. Now, you know, what you, you know, the road that you took to get to the position that you were in. But on the no contest wrestling podcast, we have something that I like to, You know, in my own personal, I coined it the Mark Henry question because the first time I asked it was to Mark Henry, and, you know, his answer still stuck with me to this day. But that first night after you won the title, what was it like putting your head on the pillow as champion of the world?
6:57No one's asked me this question. You see. Because things go by so fast, you know, in wrestling before you know it in a blink of eye your career is done um i really didn't have time to digest that because i was off to the next thing um i mean because i told myself and it was just something i said i was gonna do um it felt like a checkpoint in my career um and i'm headed towards direction that i want to be and that's to be a legend whether people like it or not um but i felt blessed i felt blessed um i felt worthy um and it was just something i always said i manifested i said this was exactly what i'm going to do so what's next what's next what's next keep giving giving it to me keep feeding me so more than anything i felt blessed but in wrestling as you You know, it's off to the next PLE.
7:59It's off to the next SmackDown. It's just off to the next PR, whatever. It's just off to the next. But I felt very blessed in that moment. And I did what I said I was going to do. Yeah, that key thing. That part. Key thing right there. Now, I know you told us you were in Barcelona. I know a little tidbit, you know, a little thing that you like to do in your spare time. I want to ask if you had a chance to do it over there in Barcelona. you like to check out historical cemeteries. Oh. What is that? I just did it. I just came back. I can't tell you the name, but we actually, I had Ricky Saints join me and we were trying to find the grave, the kiss of death.
8:42Shout out to Ricky. And we put in this, shout out to Ricky. It's the cemetery was so huge and they were closing in like 45 minutes, but we did the best we can do. But yes, I already visited a cemetery. I had to, it's one off the clip when you first get in that I really want to check out as well. So maybe before SmackDown tomorrow, I'll check that out. But you guys got to check it out. Don't knock it until you try it. I know it's like, like, what, is she nuts? Is she insane? But it's pretty cool to sit back and, and look at life in a different lens. And just, I like to just, I don't know. It's so peaceful, but it's so peaceful.
9:21I know, I know, I know. I knew that was coming after what I said, I figured. But it's so peaceful, and it's just like, it gives you a different perspective on life. Guys, the Kiss of Death statue located in Poblenu Cemetery in Barcelona, a 1930 marble sculpture, a winged skeleton gently kissing a young man on the forehead. Yeah. That's what Jay Cargill looking for. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right. But they have, I think, a saint in there as well that we had seen. And it was candles burning all the way to the bottom. Nothing but, like, Jesus pieces. And it was pretty, it was a lot.
10:06It was a lot. But it's very historical. So just check out some. You guys got some amazing cemeteries there in L.A. You got what, the Hollywood Cemetery? Yeah. So just try it. Don't knock it until you try it. Don't knock it until you try it. Absolutely. I'll take TJ. I can't like, if I say something it's going to sound off the wall and I don't want you to make a joke about it. I'm like, let me just keep these thoughts to myself before we get too deep. I got you. I definitely got something. I got so many questions but you know, most of them got to be saved until we can actually get on your podcast.
10:40Real quick, she mentions smelling good. Let me make sure I smell good. Do the thing, Jefferson. The little Baccarat Ruger, make sure I smell good to talk to Jade. Okay, okay, okay. No, Jay, you talked about questions you hadn't been asked before. And so we already know what you got going on this weekend with the PLA, Clash in Italy, going for the championship again. I'm going to ask you something that you probably haven't been asked before. I'm going to give you a scenario. Let's say there's an exhibition, women's basketball tournament going on, right? And so I know you played at Jacksonville University.
11:11You had some game and hoops. I need and this is kind of a takeoff of O'Shea and I's favorite question from her pod about a bar fight, which we will ask you one day. But this is different. I do need you to assemble a team. I need you to assemble a team of women from the company that you would pick to be on this team with you as you try to win this exhibition tournament. Lash, of course, she played in the WNBA, of course. I would Naya play basketball as well. so that's two uh bailey and bailey was at the all-star game right about two years ago i was like why wouldn't you guys have me on this what is happening um bailey so that's three counting more me is four and then i believe that bianca played basketball as well so that's five so i'll be i'll be this yeah i'll let bianca be the point guard i think because she played ball or i'll be the point guard.
12:07I'll have Lash be my forward and I'll have Nia be the center. Alright, well look. That was like a perfectly wrapped answer. And every one of them can ball. Don't you see it? I see it. I think all of us play ball. I think Nia, myself and Lash are the only ones that play collegiate. I think Lash and myself are the only ones that went pro. She went to the WNBA. I went overseas. So, yeah. I think we'll... I mean, against who? I'm trying to think against who. Who will we be going up against? I mean, does it matter? You take somebody that's going to lose. They're taking L's anyway. Exactly. But it just goes.
12:43The All-Star game needs to holler at me. That's what's up. And that just goes to show these women, man, who wrestle, they come from all various different backgrounds and athletic. You know, you have volleyball players, gymnasts, basketball players. For people who aren't familiar with the WWE and what these women are doing, they come from all walks of life to become superstars. And they just prove that they can do it all. While the haters are picking chips out their beard, leaving ridiculous comments. And you said it. I didn't say it, but I think I'm going to take that. I might take that. I might take that.
13:15I can use it. I got you. Now, you listed your teammates right there. But let's talk about B-Fab and Meechan. Number one, I love seeing them in a main event spotlight. You know, those who have been watching knows the work that they put in. So it's always great to see them uplifted. From what I heard, that Saturday night main event, you kind of, it's cold under that bus. You said that the loss came because of them. Is everything all good? What are we looking for? I said we. I said we. I said we. I said we. But we learned from that. We learned from that. I told them to go after. I gave them the bone.
13:58I literally gave them the bone. I threw Rhea out. That was our opportunity. That was an opportunity to capitalize on. And they hesitated. If you go back and look at Mania, they hesitated. They didn't listen to me. Why would you not listen to me? But at the same time, I was toying with my food as well. I was out there, hand slams, back and forth, laughing, messing with the crowd, got caught up in the lights. I say we learned our lesson, you know, because it's, you know, like we're out there to win. But at the end of the day, they didn't listen to me. and we said that we're going to do better here for it because we're here to take over.
14:33We're not here to blend in. I know damn sure I'm not. I didn't come to WWE to just blend in. That's something. I already stand out. Now I just got to do the work. I already went to the top but I need to stay at the top. And if y 'all going to be with me, then we need to keep it together and keep being strong and keep pushing like we know we can do. Right. With the athleticism of BFAT, Meechan is always down to do dirty work you know she she loves her kendo stick in a trash can she you know she'll go she'll go hard now are y 'all prepared she's our pit bull i would say i would say b-fab is like the more calculated one she's the one that can you know uh kind of play with anybody mentally um and i would say that mitchin is the pit bull like she's gonna attack first she's gonna go after people first where everybody gotta be like all right calm down and i'm just the boss like i I just be sitting there like, all right.
15:23And when it's time for me to come in, I just clean up. Like, if I have to come in, then power needs to speak. Something needs to tremble. So I'm just sitting back letting them do the work. And when it's time for me to come in, like I did at Saturday Night Main Event, I make that difference. Now, before they were your teammates, TJ, you remember back in the day, the Cocoa Butter Avengers. Naomi. Naomi. Yes, sir. Bianca. Y 'all were shutting it down. Take us through that WrestleMania moment with the three of you guys and what you remember fondly about that team before. I remember fondly. Jimmy and Montez.
16:02Had to mess everything up. Messed everything up.
16:07You know what? The weight is going to make people want it more. There's so many storylines that can be done out of Naomi and I, out of Bianca and I, out of Naomi and Bianca, out of all three of us sitting down and getting to the nitty gritty of it, all of us having a triple threat. It's so many different storylines and, you know, life happens, but I know that it just leaves the fans wanting more. And at the moment, especially at Mania, you know, at that time, I was very blessed. I'm working with two legends, women who are going to be in the Hall of Fame, undoubtedly. and I was like okay now I gotta show them what I can do like they great but I gotta rise to the occasion and I gotta perform as well because it's black excellence and I want to do nothing but continue to bring that to the mat and I want to do nothing but help the next generation and get better and better and better represent more and more and more we have women down at NXT they're gonna carry the torch after me and after them and we just want to continue that legendary run.
17:16Now, a big brother of mine and TJ's is the legendary Mark Henry. And Mark told me to ask you, what does the name Rip Roger mean to you? So when I first started, you know, Mark Henry is a dad to me. I go to Brad Weiss and if I'm not doing good in the ring, best believe he's going to call me and chew me out. he's one of those guys um because at the end of the day he put his favor in me and his legacy in me bianca samantha you know like it's so many people that he trusts us bro he trusts us so much right so we're continuing his legacy and we want to do that through our legacy um i forgot the question i'm so sorry we're roger oh we're rogers oh my gosh okay so when I first got into the industry, he told me to go see Rip Rogers.
18:15I went to go see Rip Rogers. He's a grizzled, oh man, he's not going to get mad if I said that. And he put me through the wringer. I mean, like he popped me over the back. I was training sun up to sun down. He was giving it to me because one of the things that Mark Henry told me is, you know, this is not going to be a cakewalk like wrestling is a a crappy sandwich and you just gonna have to eat it everything is not glitter and gold like you're gonna have to do this sometime to do work you don't want to do and like he was putting me through the wringer and rip rogers tore my butt up but uh i was like i was like i can't let this old man show me up because he comes from you know back in the day where it's a whole different type of training and he put me through the wringer and he seen i came out on top he was like oh my god this is a tough you know curse word but he was like this is a tough woman he's like this is a tough woman like okay all right i see you're not just pretty like it's a lot of pretty girls that just come up here but now you work hard and you can take a punch because he hit me one time that was so hard and i was like like is that it like okay like keep keep going and that's just the athlete in me like i just it's i like when people tell me i can't do nothing like or i i'm not going to amount to something that i said i was going to do like i love that and i feed off of that and I use that as motivation so he was trying to get me to quit the entire time the entire time he's trying to get me to quit and I just would not quit I just would not quit I was like okay you can hit me harder you can have somebody come in here and and give me a pop me give me a forearm do what you got to do and and I'm gonna bounce back that's fine that's fine like I welcome all that and Rip Roger put me through the ringer and that was one of the first people that Mark Henry put me in contact with and he was like all right I'm gonna see how like how tough you are and it was insane so he's a crazy old man and uh he put me through the ringer phenomenal wrestler um historical wrestler and uh he put me through the ringer and i came out on top well the great mark henry uh spoke very highly of you he said that you are a sponge you are competitive and that you are tough and uh if he could place a bet he said you're gonna be one of the greatest of all time and everybody can check jade out as she goes for the wwe women's champion against Rhea Ripley this weekend.
20:31Sunday, May 31st at Clash and Italy, 2 p.m. Eastern, 11 a.m. Pacific. Jade, thank you. We got to get you on our no contest show soon. I will hope so. Don't give all the questions now. We got more to talk about. There, y 'all. We got it. Jade Cargill, everybody. Thank you, Jade. Thank you, Jade. Have a great day. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Of course. Jade Cargill. Hey, you know, I got to do one of these reads, you know? Yeah, because we got to keep the lights on. Keep the lights on around here. Let's talk to these people at Hyundai. You know how they do. In a world in need of a hero, one man rises to the challenge in style.
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23:39He just, I still don't have a car to the building. But a quick little random Star Wars story since, you know, I was in Star Wars. But so they invite me to Star Wars Day, which is like a celebration, you know. And I'm thinking I'm going to go up there and be on the panel, look cool. So I was like, I get a plus one, taking my little sister. We're headed to Anaheim. I'm thinking I'm about to be the man, right? So we get there. And they give me the credential says guest. oh hold on now i'm in the cast they're like yeah but you know you don't you don't pop on until episodes four five and six and we haven't revealed your character yet so like they're not really going to ask you anything so like you know we got you a seat in the audience so i'm there and i'm like oh this is not as cool but then john williams and harrison ford comes out john williams does like five songs we sing them happy birthday with harrison ford and then afterwards they were like you want to go to Disneyland?
24:39I was like, yeah. And for free, got to skip lines. We go to the Star Wars ride that they spent a billion dollars. It's so nice. Yeah. And Ron Howard was there. Ron Howard goes, hey, aren't you in Swagger? OK. So now me and Ron Howard and my sister are on the Star Wars ride. And there was one guy with him, a tall dude. I couldn't remember his face, but he was talking to Ron Howard later on in life. You know, the presidential election and things go on and vice president uh jd vance is on tv and my sister goes that's the dude that was with ron howard jd vance yes so i wrote the star wars ride with my sister ron howard and vice president jd vance what a random story you guys you never showed that wow that is terzo in iowa let's take his call he's a regular terzo how you doing man what up man what up guys what's up Bo Shea, man, it's a pleasure to be able to talk to you other than you're desecrating that beautiful desk with all that Lamb's gear on there.
25:42Whoa, whoa, whoa. Go Rams, go. He's a Niners fan. Go Rams, go. Who's ho? He's a Niners fan. Niners? Oh, man, three Super Bowls, no win. That's hard to do. Yeah, it's also funny whenever we have five of them already in the case, though, too. So just saying. Yeah, on the History Channel. Yeah, I know. Oh, Spurs OKC? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know they're before your time. I know you're still a youngin', so it's all right. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. It's the lighting. Hey, O'Shea, man, I want to give you a shout-out. That trailers for Idiots looks absolutely hilarious. I got a couple buddies that would fit right into those roles, and it brings back some memories of college for me, man.
26:22So that's going to be a great movie. Looking forward to it. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. August 28th. August 28th, everybody. Hey, with your painting, I know a perfect place to hang that up. Brockman, I think that that would look great in Carl's place, just right up above the bar. I think that would look in perfectly. Carl's place, he's from Iowa. They're big, rich eyes in show. Yeah, you're probably there right now. Are you at the bar right now, Terzo? I wish I was, but I'm stuck in the office today. Hard-working man, that Terzo. Be all cooler if I was. What else we got, bud? Hey, so with SGA just kind of being the, you know, anointed farmer of fouls, it's kind of funny to me that how everybody's making a stink of it right now.
27:12During the playoffs and this run, whenever he was still, you know, the overall favorite for the MVP, when I still should, I thought it was Jokic the whole entire time. but we didn't we didn't criticize SGA throughout the regular season for what he's been doing but we're doing it now so I I just I just have a hard time with with kind of talking out of both sides of their mouths at this point it's what we expect we gave him the MVP for it it's it's it's what it's how he plays the game I think we just have to let it go and go from there you know I think he was getting criticized for it though yeah it also helps you know when everybody is watching during the playoffs you know everybody everything is so magnified during the playoffs everything is under a microscope so much and it's hard to watch it's just hard to watch and it reminds me of the the hardened mvp obviously you know him going back to back which is a huge accomplishment but when you you start to look at those things it's just like what would he be if he didn't get these and then you start looking at those points and i mean anybody who follows my twitter knows i have gone on a quite a few referee rants so i i told my family that i would be good but turns out this is the first positive conversation i've ever heard about sga man so yeah good on you How do you feel about that?
28:43It's just watching the game. I know I'm a huge basketball fan. I'm not a fan of how it goes down, but we got to take the good with the bad, and it's just the way it is right now. Let's just enjoy a good series, and hopefully I'm not right in thinking that they win tonight. Wimby shows up, and we get a game seven, and it's an epic game seven as well, too, before we get to see these Knicks fans go crazy. Yeah, got to love them, man. Hey, Terzo, thank you for the call, man. Appreciate you guys. Hopefully we get a game seven. I'm all behind him for that game seven. Man, I would love nothing more than a game seven tonight, but I don't know.
29:23You just don't magically find your legs after they seemingly have left you in game five. I don't know if just the one-day arrest is going to do much for San Antonio, but can't shoot 415. Fox and Wemby can't go 415 each. Like you mentioned earlier, can't shoot 29 % from three. You know, I don't know. Are we going to get home cooking for the Spurs tonight? You know. I know that's what you think is going to happen. Yeah, yeah, I do. Home cooking is so, and obviously this is from the guy who won the bubble championship where there was no home cooking because nobody was at home. But the idea of home cooking makes me so angry.
30:07And yeah, I think it's going to make for compelling television if in one of these conference finals we get a Game 7. It's the best two words in sports. And a Game 7 solidifies this Thunder-Spurs rivalry to a different level because now it's not the stars of old. You know, when we think OKC, the first thing I think of is Durant and Westbrook and that crew, Cephalosha and Ibaka. Now this is new territory on both sides. And, I mean, Texas versus Oklahoma. If they needed any more to argue about. To hate each other. Here it is. So we need that game seven. A call has been made. Zach Zarba tonight is the crew chief.
31:00Yep. You got his jersey? I'm sure SGA does. Now, something I want to talk to you about, Chris, these next two subjects. Okay, Shay. I know you're a Drake May guy. I like Drake May a lot, yeah. Did you hear how he was a critic? I don't even know if it's criticized or complimented. You know, did you hear about it, TJ? Have you heard the sound about him being thick? Yeah, more like cake. I read it, but I didn't actually hear the sound. I just read something. It's hilarious. Can we get that? Can we hear that? Rude question. Are you thicker with two C's? Is that the way you're supposed to say it? Is that kind of like the hip thing?
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31:39Are you thicker with two C's? Is that how it's supposed to be? I think that's pause, if that's anything. I think that's not the way to put it. Do you feel conditioned as far as another year of experience, just your body getting ready for this? I think that's just part of having a long season and being able to take some time off and come back into it and get your body right for the beginning of the season. I think it's kind of how the NFL works, the long season, and you tend to lose some muscle or lose some weight as the season goes on. You try to maintain that, and that's what you try to build during the offseason and maintain during the season.
32:15So that's kind of the nature of it and just trying to be my best version of myself, and that's physically and mentally.
32:25Pardon? why are excuse me here's the thing he handled it correctly first off first off he did he threw the pause in there a plus handling of that situation that's the leadership that you want out of your quarterback drafted and your mvp uh that's what you want right there but can can like can like old white dude reporters stop asking cringe questions talk to him chris like this This happens at dudes talking to the female athletes and dudes talking to young players. Stop trying to relate to them. Just ask your question and stop talking so they can answer it. What are we doing? Are you thicker with two C's?
33:08Is that what the kids are saying these days? Pardon? Excuse me? I feel assaulted. Why do you feel assaulted? He didn't ask you? No, I'm saying. first of all he like side item and kind of did oh there's no way he said that he's like first off pause situation then like come on yeah go give me a sweatshirt and put around my waist oh here looking at drake may's thighs like that what are we talking about here look at your your hips looking thicker with two c's fat with a ph whoa juicy what is happening over there in I had to ask you, man. Man, that was so weird. Yeah. But I'm so glad that we have a leader and a champion right there to answer, to kind of brush the question off, get back on tap.
33:58It's like he shedded the defender, ran for the first down, made a play, and got a great answer out there. Like, what do we – stop. Cake May. You're making us all look bad with these dumbass questions. Drake the Cake May. What is happening? Yeah, so are we going to start calling him Cake May now? Yeah, Cake May. I'm telling you, bro. Cake May's in the building. I will never participate in that. I would be furious. Cake May. Cake May. Come on. Please no. Please no. It's all that reporter's fault. I need to know his name. I need to know where he is right now just so I have an idea of what vicinity he's in.
34:38Did he, like, run that question by his kids? He wrote that down last night. Or his wife or something? No, because his kids would have told him not to. That's what I'm going to ask Drake tomorrow, guys. Two Cs. Two Cs. Thick. Gotta love me some football. Awesome. You know, it's like he probably asked one of their kids, and they were like, Dad, no. Dad, please don't do that. The third one was like, yeah, do it. See what happens. Dad, no. But you guys know, we've talked about basketball, talked about football, but you guys know me. And we talk wrestling a little. And we talk wrestling, but you know me, TJ.
35:14I do know you love me some baseball. Die hard baseball. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was all I needed. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you guys. I can't believe that the person outside of the Jackson family that loves you more than any other human being, Mike DelTufa. It's not here. Not here today. I know. All this dude talks is about, oh, I got to show this to Shay, or Shay's going to think this is funny. I'm like, man, are you in love with him or something? And he's not here today. He's at his back in this hostile work environment. That is R.E.S., man. You guys are jackals.
35:51Do you feel that the work environment is hostile right now? No, we've been chill all day. Okay, yeah. So you know what the common denominator is? Del Tufo? Oh, wait a second. We get the horns ready? I've upgraded the horns. Come on, man. You see when your boy's in the big chair, it's a chill environment. Get a couple of celebs. Talk a couple of trash to callers. It's what you want out here. What? Makes for a good day at work, yeah. It's a great day at work. But, Chris, I remember you were telling me that Shohei Ohtani should stop pitching. Oh, he sure did. How's that been working out for you? Look, here's the thing.
36:36Okay. Okay. We're here for you. You have a same age child as me. Yes. So you've probably seen Moana a few times. What can I say except you're welcome. You're welcome. Oh, boy. You're welcome. You sicko. I should have known. You're welcome. Clearly, Overreaction Monday, this is probably on a Tuesday, is on in the Dodger clubhouse. Okay. Like, Otani is, you know, scrolling YouTube, and this is in his For You feed, and he was inspired by me saying, look, can't do both because one takes away from the other. Right? You're a great pitcher this year. You're hitting 240. You don't pitch for two seasons and you're the greatest hitter of all time.
37:21Okay? Now, ever since I, if you want to roll it, Mike, ever since I said this, enough with the pitching sideshow. Otani needs to go back to hitting only or the Dodgers not going to make the NLCS? So you think he's not hitting well because he's pitching? 1 ,000%. I don't know how you could dispute that. Guy doesn't pitch for two years. We see 50-50 in the greatest offensive player we've ever seen. Now we're back to pitching? What is he hitting, 240? It's just baseball, man. It happens. It just happens. I don't know. I went to a couple games over the weekend. Didn't hit the broad side of a barn.
37:58I hear you. I get it. Something's off. I know. You got Braves mania over there. Enough with the pitching. No one cares. That's not true. Untrue no one cares. It is true. Untrue. We're there to see you hit. Untrue. We're there to see you hit. We're not there to see you do something cool every fifth day. We're there to see you do something awesome every day. Let's hit. Now, look, again. Hold on. We're all side of a barn. No. What can I say? Except you're welcome. Except you're welcome. Since then, I don't think he's given up a hit, and he has not one but two leadoff home runs. Did he do it again last night?
38:34I said two leadoff home runs. Yeah, he's a freak. He is the monster that we all know and love around here in Los Angeles. And the greatest thing that baseball has ever seen, Shohei Ohtani. I might just go by O'Shea Ohtani for the run. I mean, I might have to talk to him about that. How is this the first time we have said that? Yeah, right? It just happens. You know, when I'm in the chair, we got good energy. O'Shea Ohtani. O'Shea Ohtani is here, man. Now I'm going to put up on Twitter better nickname that we've cultivated the last 10 minutes. Cake May or O'Shea Ohtani. Which one's better? Cake May is dangerous.
39:16That's the only time I'm going to say that. Is your dad going to make one of these with three? When we get another one? That's what I said. I was like, the guy who ever designed. By the way. By the way, yous are awesome. Did you pass those out today? You see these? you see these right here did your boy get one but this is yeah this is what happens when she is hosting we got little versions of my dad in tiny cars right now i i told my dad the guy who designed this one is like sweating thinking about a third all right yeah him yeah in the low rider both trophies you see you see him you see him on the side my dad is so weirdly become the honorary mascot.
40:00He's like the face of the team. It's insane. It's insane. We are a strong Laker household. And, you know, the Dodgers, we all sit and watch and hope and we sat there and watched you, Darvish, and all those moments and things like that, cheering for Agon and the boys. And, you know, I told you, my first baseball game ever was actually at Shea Stadium. And it was terrible. my piazza killed us but um yeah now dodgers are like they're part of the family we you know show you o'tani could borrow my car if he wanted to you know he's got a plate at the house so it's been incredible um giving these out to the guys but i'll do that during the break we'll see you guys in a minute this is the rich eisen show the rich eisen show the podcast
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43:50But that was for sure for Godzilla. Had to be for Godzilla. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Because I'm pretty sure this was the first date you and I met. Yeah, it was with the blue? Yeah, with the blue. Yeah, yeah, that's for Godzilla. It's funny. We talk about this on the wrestling pod. The first time, you know, people know, some might know that before I got put on this position, I used to do produce social media. And I would go into the green room and I would, you know, play little games and interview guests before they came out to talk to Rich. And so I literally had the first time you and I ever met, I had that recorded and you and I were just chopping up about wrestling randomly, never knowing where that was going to lead us, you know, years later.
44:29So that was technically also the day that that seed was planted. Yeah. I mean, in a way, what an important day, what an important day, August 13th, 2018 was, I mean, I got to look at it as my show anniversary, NCW's, the first planting of that seed. It's an important day. Yeah. My daughter's birthday is August 4th. August is hot. August. I mean, literally August. August is burning. Temperatures. Man. Idiots coming out. Idiots? Felly. August 28th. 28th. You see that? Felly trying to get into idiots too. Bro, that was that. I'm made for that. Was that Kobe to LeBron? No, no, no. That was that Kobe to Shaq.
45:11Kobe to Shaq, Portland Trailblazers, an actual moment. An actual moment, right? By the way, I still remember where I was. Yeah, me too. Where were you for that game? Honestly, my mom, I believe my mom was in the hospital because my little brother was born June 1st that year. Wow. Yeah. Crazy. That's what a wild moment. Shout out to Sharif. I love you. Your brother or Abdurrahim? No, no, no, my brother. His brother, Shreem. Abdurrahim, I don't think I've met. Shreem, Abdurrahim. Yeah, either way. Either way, shout out to all the Shreem. Don't remember that. Because I just got done watching Trailblazers.
45:53Yeah. Which is, I meant to tell you, it's definitely worth watching just for the walk down memory lane of some of the NBA players. But, you know, they replayed that moment. The Trailblazers were up. They had that game in the bag, man. I still don't know how they ended up losing it. But then Kobe lobbed that to Shaq, and it was a wrap. Yeah. Like I said, there's an actor named Harlan Williams. I don't know if you remember him. He was in, you know, Half-Baked, a bunch of other stuff. He has this pretty cool crib on Laurel Canyon. I just so happened to be at his house watching that. And I was talking trash because I didn't like the Lakers.
46:27I was like, this is a wrap. Then that lob happened. I just remember sitting on the couch like, whoa. Yeah. That was a huge moment. That's back when real fans could afford to go to the game. Staple Center was rocking. Not no more. Rocking, man. It was always bright in there. Now we got the theater lighting and all this. I swear it just helps other teams shooting. I cannot stand it. Anyway, shout out to Staples. Crypto, still got to work on it. Our friends on radio, we'll see you in a minute. The Rich Isis Show Podcast. This is what everyone's talking about. Everything's on the table. This is what champions come to take.
47:12This is what everyone came to see. And the slam! No do-overs. No second chances. No more Mr. Nice Guy. This is winner take all. And it's all happening now on the home of the NBA Finals. Don't miss it. June 3rd on ABC and the ESPN app.
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