Hour 2: ‘Overreaction Monday,’ plus Bob Costas Talks Skubal to Dodgers Bigger Impact on MLB

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0:30Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Ladies and gentlemen This is the Rich Eisen Show Like I told you guys, it's all ball Why did Baker Mayfield and the Bucks not come to a long-term resolution? From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Baker wanted this done earlier rather than later Earlier on the show Prime video NFL analyst Andrew Whitworth Coming up Legendary broadcaster Bob Costas Actor LaMonica Garrett and now it's rich eisen hour number two of the rich eisen show is on the air and just like apparently aaron donald did in practice according to andrew whitworth in our number one we're going to rip the mask straight off of our number two rip the face mask straight off like he did a helmet that sounds so terrifying he said the bolts came off the the helmet that just doesn't seem right well i don't know i forgot to ask the follow-up question did aaron donald pop out the infinity stones from his knuckle just after that by the way that's that's called a timely pop culture reference eight spider-man spider-man right that's good spider-man in the odyssey huh right odysseus and peter parker together making about a billion bucks and over the weekend huh listen just like the Dodgers.

2:18Rich Eisen:It's, again, call us, 844-204-RICH, number to dial. Tarek's school being on Dodgers feels unfair, but the Dodgers only paid$9 million and three prospects. That's it. Yeah, what was everybody else doing? That's it. Why couldn't anybody else do that? Again, I need to know, did the Phillies or the Brewers basically say, Because I don't know why the Yankees would go ahead and do that. I mean, schoolable is amazing, but starting pitching isn't the Yankees' issue right now. Hitting and also bullpen. That's the issue right now for them. But did they basically say to the Tigers, we're not picking up everything and our prospects aren't going to be that great because we don't know if we're going to sign him long term.

3:10Rich Eisen:and the Dodgers are like, screw it. I have no idea. But that's all that was. The fact that Scoble's going to stay put in Los Angeles and be another$400 million log on their multi-billion dollar salary fire is why everybody thinks that the house is on fire for baseball. And that the owners, that's my concern, is the owners are going to basically, the rest of the Major League Baseball teams, you're already seeing like unnamed executives saying, well, that's the end of the season. Well, no season next year. Right? Yeah. Well, that's the end of this playing season. I already saw some quotes saying that.

3:44Rich Eisen:And then next season, what, are you going to shut it down until the players relent? It's not the players' fault. None of it is. In that regard. What's Scoobles supposed to tell the Illich family? I'll give you a hometown discount? Is that what he's supposed to do? Nope. Is it on the players to fix it? To be part of the answer? Yeah, but the owners are going to have to get together and come up with a better plan than just blow up the season next year. Come on now. That I don't want to hear. Right. And I'll tell baseball this too. Having been through an NFL lockout far more recently, fans aren't going to care.

4:26Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Fans are not going to sit here and care to hear about this, that, the other thing about arguing and lawyering and union collective bargaining. They're just not going to care. They'll be like one of the Savannah Bananas coming to town. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, if there are no games, we will move on to something else. You know, Women's World Cup. Like, what's next? Yeah.

4:50Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH. Number to dial right here. Terzo in Iowa. All rise. Terzo, first and first up. What's up, Terzo? How are you? Oh, you know, Rich, just another great day being a Giants fan, and the Dodgers just always seem to get richer, and we just stink. You know, and my coach gets hurt before training camp. Pearsall gets hurt during training camp. And we have the Avenger himself, you know, coming back to the Rams. It's just, you know, it's been a tough summer. I'll be completely honest with you. I'm a little nervous. And Scoobles from the Bay Area, brother. More today than I have been. You know, I mean, Scoobles is from the Bay Area.

5:33Rich Eisen:You know, he was born in Hayward, California. so you know and he grew up a fan of the Oakland Athletics back in the day we don't have a good enough team to have made an offer it does shock me like you said that other teams didn't go after him I really would have thought the Nationals or somebody along those lines would have made that push but the Dodgers they just know how to win and continue to stack talent And so I think I'm just going to live in the Dodger world here for a little while longer. Listen, bottom line, though, is last year the Blue Jays pushed them to the literally last strike of a World Series.

6:16Rich Eisen:And it doesn't guarantee anything. You still have to play in the playoffs, and the Dodgers will. But they just, if they're going to run, I mean, what are they going to do? They'll run out Skubal and then Otani and then Yamamoto, or they'll start with Otani, then Skubal. Otani's not pitching. I don't know, pal. You don't need him. Yeah, you don't need him now. And he's hurt. I disagree with Brockman. I think he'll still want to pitch. I think it's going to be tough to keep Otani from doing that, especially right now. Maybe next year they might try and shut them down for that. But, you know, going forward, at least in baseball you have seven games, whereas in football, you know, it's just one, so you might be able to luck out.

7:11And so we'll see how it plays out, especially the first week of the football season.

7:16Rich Eisen:So looking forward to it. Thanks, Terzo. That's Terzo in Iowa right here on the program. And in terms of the Niners, let's see what they look like in a month. I'm not you know I'm I know Ricky Pearsall's being out is that's the season is thanks it does stink but I'm not going to sit here and say the Niners are cursed because the coach got the coach got into a car accident let's see what they're going to look like in a month before I go in that direction here I wonder if they call Stefan Diggs they could could they sure could man do you see Ayuk is already putting out on his Instagram like let's get a let's get a total reunion him and in Devo?

7:54Rich Eisen:My answer to that would be, makes sense, man. It makes total sense. Now he wants to return? You're the one who took a match to the bridge, man. Yeah, bizarre. For weeks and months. That's why you always hold your powder, man. Don't do that. Because this was a team that once upon a time gave Jimmy G his playbook, asked for it back millions of times before giving it back to him. They're like, we're done over and over again. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Can you? Oh, you'll go from 19th string to starting the season. We kind of need you. Right.

8:30Rich Eisen:Okay. It's a Monday. It's time for Overreaction Monday. We didn't do the pod today. I think we're going to start doing it weekly very shortly. But for today, it's just the old segment. Straight up. Overreaction Monday. Hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. It just like sucks. Over reaction. Mondays. Monday. On a Monday. What's up, Chris? Hey, guys. Happy Monday. Great to see you. Mike, this is what, your 11th straight work day? Yes. I'm on a streak. That's an overreaction. You're no Cal Ripken. So I'm looking at not a lot of huge stories coming out of the first weekend of training camp, but this one right here is still, it's looming.

9:14Bajon and Jameer Gibbs still holding it in, guys. And here's the deal. You think about how good they are, how often they touch the ball production-wise, what they mean to their team. Bijan and Jameer should get paid as much as the top wide receivers. I'm single. Please.

9:29Rich Eisen:Why is it the number one running back gets half as much as the number one wide receiver? Injury. Injury prone. They touch the ball a third as much, the wide receivers. I get it. but the pool of wide receivers is less than the pool of running backs, I think. No, I don't think so. No, I think there's way more. So you think it's easier to find a guy who can run crisp routes and catch a ball than for a guy to hand him the ball and run through a hole? And to be as good as these two? These two are anomalies. I'm just saying in general. I just think that the pool of players just in that regard, I understand it's a high skill.

10:04Rich Eisen:but I again it's a position where it's they're required for another human being to get them the ball this one is they're essentially either on a very rare occasion getting a direct snap to them the person who's incumbent upon giving them the ball staying right next to them and half the time it's going to be giving it to them because it's you want to split run and pass you see what I'm saying and then when it all comes down to winning a game how many times are you going to try and win the game by grinding the clock down as opposed to just airing it out see where I'm going I I think they're far more valuable I've been saying this for years you knew where I was going to go you knew this was like a piece of red meat to start this thing yeah and if i'm them i'm like looking at i'm looking at what the top receivers make yeah i'm getting the ball more than them like on a great day a top receiver is going to get targeted targeted five fewer times than my good day where i'm touching it you know what i mean so yeah these guys are going to get what 20 25 touches a game it's injury though The fact, though, that they're in between tackles way more than the receivers.

11:28Rich Eisen:That's the difference. And that the wear and tear prevents a long-term deal cashing in with the proper amount of results as opposed to a wide receiver. That may be the only difference. But what else, Chris? I don't know, man. Who's going to have better stats this year? Those two or Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase? Well, I hope for the Vikings and the Bengals' sake and those two guys, obviously, I know what you're saying. What else, Chris? All right. Looking at these quarterback battles that's going on right now, the Raiders did it right. They just said, hey, look, Kirk Cousins is QB1, and we're going to move on.

12:07The Browns and Vikings should do exactly what the Raiders did, just to declare a QB1 right now. No, I don't think they have to. Look, you're watching as much of this video that's coming out of camp as I am, right? Deshaun Watson has what more interceptions than practices that's going on right now and Shador is clearly the number one there and Kyler Murray I've yet to see a J.J. McCarthy highlight clip on social media.

12:31Rich Eisen:Yeah but you know how this works in the early on of them you know how this works. There's no sense to play this out name a number one move on other than the fact that it's a process you've got weeks to go you come in and you're like it's a competition and you're not just going to... Yeah, I mean, in both of these cases, you've got two guys that have a stake and a claim. You know, Fernando Mendoza's stake and claim is I'm the first overall pick in a draft. And the Heisman Trophy winner in. I understand that. I get it. So it makes... It's apples and oranges. This is an overreaction. I don't have a problem with Todd Munkin wanting to keep this thing flowing, keep everyone guessing.

13:11Rich Eisen:And the same thing with Kevin O 'Connell. certainly because you don't want to name a starter right now and then all of a sudden the other guy has to start you know that's not cool that's not a great way to go into the season what if fernando mendoza looks better than kirk cousins there and the raiders will be in the same boat then they'll then they'll switch and they'll just say yeah things things changed thanks kirk i don't think that's going to happen though what else chris listening to the you know we're talking about the sleeper teams and could the dolphins be one of these guys one of the i don't know but devin hn said something interesting wants to lead the league in rushing this year okay i'm not gonna say that but i think you can do it devin hn top three rushing yards this year book it i can't sit here and say that that's an overreaction 1600 led the league last year james cook wasn't a mind-boggling number he was there i think devin h had just as good as james cook tj just as explosive home run hitter more so and miami you know if malik willis can get the passing game going a little bit can't key on him i'm wondering when was the last time somebody five nine and under led the league in rushing hmm you know what i mean like i mean that might be an ai question i'm literally typing you roll the dice that it's actually accurate where you say it into a microphone on a nationally televised radio and tv simulcast let's see what gemini pops i don't know man but that's that's the issue emmett smith uh mjd shorter than okay mjd weather league and rushing i believe he did right Yeah, 1 ,606 in 2011.

14:59It's been a while.

15:00Rich Eisen:So 5-7. Okay, I can't put anything past him, but, you know. You just said Jameer Gibbs and B 'Jawn Robinson deserve to get paid like a wide receiver because they're going to get the ball as much as they're going to get in the big-time hits. More involved in the passing game. That they deliver on behalf of their team. Yes. Okay, what else you got over there? Top three. Those are the top three running backs this year. All right. James Cook, he'll fall off, and Derrick Henry, that's gone too. I mean, it's great. Again, the fact that we've been caping for running backs here for about five, six years when things really started going in an absurd direction.

15:34Rich Eisen:We're not paying somebody who's so crucial to the team and so crucial to the results and so crucial to getting the proper results because you're running the clock out. We're not paying that person$10 million a year. That's so crazy. It really was the case. I think McCaffrey's making$12 million this year. and by the way it's a big year for him where he'll be just like 30 is just the number yeah what else chris uh it's this type of year we're getting ready for our fantasy dress we just signed up for one uh best ball is back okay uh that means hype trains are moving on guys okay okay did you hear this quote from ben johnson about over the weekend about someone i'm gonna name job.

16:16Listen. I've been around guys like Jarvis Landry, who's a tremendous competitor, played with a little chip on his shoulder, was physical in the running game, not afraid of contact. You could just feel the whole team elevate based on his style of play. St. Brown in Detroit, who I have a strong affinity for, he plays the game the same way. I feel that from Luther. And I know he wasn't a full-time starter for us a year ago, but the snaps that he did have, He's got that competitive edge and desire to be great. Luther Burden. No player is coming into this year with more hype than Luther Burden of the Chicago.

16:55Okay. What? You just compared him to Amon Ross St. Brown and Jarvis LeHendry. Okay.

17:03Rich Eisen:I don't know. I mean, obviously, there'll be more discussed players. Who's more hype right now than Luther Burden? I mean, Ben Johnson is doing what, by the way. More hyped in the entire league than Luther Burden? players that have, like, all of a sudden last year they were nobodies. This year they're like, oh, this guy's going to go in the third round and he's going to be the number one wide receiver on maybe the best offense. I'll just raise it. I'll raise it one. How many touchdowns did Trey McBride have last year? I know he didn't have hardly any the year before. Right, I think the year before he had one.

17:34Rich Eisen:He finally scored one at the end of the year. 11 last year for Trey McBride. 11. Colston Loveland will have more this year. than Trey McBride? Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. How about that for a hype train? Bears might have the number one. So if Colston Loveland has that number and Luther Burden's the next Amon Rao, put the Bears in SoFi Stadium in a couple of months, right? That's what I'm saying. Oh, man. Okay, last one. Just decided to throw that out there about Loveland. I mean, by the way, the hype is on Loveland, too. The hype is on everyone on the Bears. I know that. That's why he's saying that they're also the leaders in regression.

18:13Rich Eisen:According to the punditry. All their photos are on NFL.com, according to William Cohen. Let's talk about Scoobal real quick. I'm going to zag, Rich. Scoobal traded to the Dodgers. This is good for baseball. This is good for the game. And it's good for literally everyone involved. Why? Because you know what sports leagues need? They need villains. And they need bad guys. And the Dodgers are the number one bad guy in all of Major League Baseball right now. And so every other 29-team fan base can now rally against it and say, them, they're the problem. We're united against this one evil foe. And I think it's good for the game.

18:56Dynasties are good for sports. Villains and bad guys are good for sports. I actually think this is great. I love it. Good luck to them.

19:06Rich Eisen:I can buy it. I mean, there's so many different takes that you can have on this thing. Again, the Dodgers, for right now, putting this in a box for 2026, spent$9 million and three prospects that other teams in Major League Baseball either refused to give up, wouldn't give up. I don't know. Because if this guy's that good, or you're just sitting here and saying this isn't the greatest thing around, and our next guest can join us. And when I tell them about the take, they can tell you to shut up. All the other owners, stop being so cheap. All right. Spend your money. All right, let's take a break.

19:46Rich Eisen:Bob Costas is zooming in to talk with us about this very subject matter. Good stuff right there out of you, Chris Brockman. Thank you for all of that of Overreaction Monday. If you're running a small business, you know already that every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money. the right one helps your business grow and the challenge is finding that person without sorting through resumes if you didn't know any of that well here's where linkedin hiring pro comes in it screens candidates you can focus on conversations with qualified talent and with hiring pro you can hire with confidence and build the team you need join the 2.7 million small businesses using linkedin to hire get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eyes and terms and conditions apply.

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23:09Why are the Mets with all their resources in last place? Why are the Yankees, who are the rough American League equivalent in terms of resources to the Dodgers, why have they only been to the World Series once since 2009? And why is more than two-thirds of the league, more than two-thirds of the 30 teams, are within reasonable striking distance in early August of at least a wild card? By creating three wild cards and by having the two central divisions, where only out of those 10 teams, the Cubs are consistently in the top half of Major League payrolls, only the Cubs. They've created a circumstance where there's a pathway for teams.

23:47Now, they may not be able to be as consistently competitive slash dominant as the Dodgers, but it's pretty clear that almost every team in baseball with good management and a little bit of luck can contend at least for a period of time.

24:01Rich Eisen:Bob Costas here on the Rich Eisenhower radio audience has returned so we're one big family here to finally ask the the so wait so i wasted all these pearls of wisdom not at all on the non-radio audience it's not wasting anything bob you you have so many pearls and so much wisdom that you could keep dropping them it's not a problem yeah i'm punching my pearls i do appreciate that um it is the what uh billions and billions dollar question that the scoobal acquisition by the dodgers is the canary in the coal mine about baseball is broken. Where do you stand on that subject matter, Bob Costas? Well, it's another piece of evidence.

24:39And successful teams, the Dodgers, the Yankees, whatever it might be, there's resentment around baseball and around the various fan bases. And that's understandable. Scoobal is obviously a great pitcher. He wasn't having as great a season this year as his two back-to-back Cy Youngs. And he missed about six weeks with a minor elbow operation that put them on the IL for a while. But yes, the rich do get richer. But part of this isn't just their resources, which are admittedly massive. And there may be an adjustment that comes out of this next agreement in terms of deferred payments and whatnot. But they do have massive advantages, but they make full use of them.