Hour 2: ‘Overreaction Monday,’ Super Bowl LXIV to Nashville & the Return of the ‘NFL Win-Loss Game’

20:36Tom Pelissero:In it, relevant football in December. As basic as the AFC South is usually a race with nine wins. At Detroit, week 14. I'm going to take the win. Win at Detroit. I remember that last time, too. I was at a Bucs game, and I was watching the Lions-Titans game, and when the old Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback, Mason Rudolph, started, we were with them 14-14, and then they kicked our butt. Week 15, home against the Colts. I think we beat the Colts. Week 16 at Raiders. Now is Mendoza going to start at this point? It's going to be starting at the start. Gosh. I'd be surprised. At this point, maybe. Who you got?

21:26I'm going to take the Titans.

21:28Tom Pelissero:All right. Another win. Three in a row. Nine and six and on a hot streak here. Week 17, home against the Steelers. Last game in Nissan Stadium. That's right. Are you going to be emotional about that stadium going away specifically? Do you have any emotions about that, Jason? I do, yeah. I remember being a season ticket holder in 2021 and watching that Titans team, you know, with Ryan Tannehill, Derrick Henry, A.J. Brown before he got traded. and who knows he might be traded again but I will say the Titans will win their last home game and their first home game 10-6 week 18 at Houston this could be hypothetically this could be for the division right here at Houston knowing the NFL scheduling if this is for the division this game is Saturday at like 3 o 'clock what do you got it could be a flex game Give me the hometown Titans.

22:28Let's go.

22:30Tom Pelissero:Titans, 11-6, into the playoffs in all likelihood. Jason, thank you very much for playing the game. Thank you, Tom. Phone line's still open, 844-204-RICH. We can do this a few more times. Anybody who wants to weigh in, play the scheduled game with us. But after this, we've got an over-action Monday. Can't believe I'm here. I don't get to do this much. Brockman's got some good stuff. Stick around.

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25:00Tom Pelissero:Tom Pellicero in for rich on an overreaction Monday presented by PayPal. That's right. Overreaction. I read the rest of the card at the end of the segment. Overreaction Monday. There was more. Presented by PayPal. Brockman, what do we got? Hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction Monday's Monday. What's up, guys? Good to see you. I really botched that read. Let me give it to you one more time. It's Overreaction Monday presented by PayPal. That's it. I'm going to read the rest of the card at the end. Is your luggage here, Brockman? No. Hopefully.

25:37Overreaction. I don't have my luggage. Uh, guys, what's up? TJ, good to see you, man. How's it going? What up, man? How you been? Good, man. Good. Uh, top story, Aaron Rodgers is back. Mm-hmm. This is gonna be Aaron Rodgers... Practice today at OTAs.

25:50Tom Pelissero:This is gonna be Aaron Rodgers' final NFL season. I don't think that's an overreaction. I don't think we know, because this is Aaron Rodgers, and if he announced in February he's decided to go to Mars, you'd be like, yeah, sure, maybe. like he the way that he thinks about his life his place in the world what he values he's he's very connected to his own belief system um i talked about off the top of the show for somebody who is you know a believer in the universe and things happening for a reason if you want to sign from a universe it's you get a chance to close your final chapter with the coach who brought you into the league and help groom you into a four-time NFL MVP and you won a Super Bowl together.

26:38Tom Pelissero:That's a pretty cool story. If they make a run and Rodgers plays great, there's nothing to say he won't return for another season. But he's 42. He's going to be 43 in December. You're already well past where most Hall of Fame quarterbacks have walked away. We all know Tom Brady played to 45. He was still playing at a pretty high level. He played in that flag football game a month ago at a pretty high level at 48. Probably could have kept playing. But you're probably getting toward the end. if I had to lean, I would say I would lean toward this is it for Aaron Rodgers. But if it goes great, there's nothing to say they couldn't decide to run it back one more time.

27:13Tom Pelissero:If they win a playoff game, finally, it's been a while for Pittsburgh. Is it more likely than not he's back next year? He's here to win a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers is not here for the money. He's not here to just have a little more success. He was 10-6 at the starter last year. He's still ranked in the top half of the league in passer rating. This is about him trying to win something bigger. Can you imagine the capstone if they can make a run and get deep in the playoffs? I don't know that that's the end-all be-all. It's going to come down to can Aaron still play well? Can he stay healthy? He's had major injuries including last year when he fractured his wrist.

27:48Tom Pelissero:What sort of level is he playing at? What is the team's success? Does this go as well as I personally believe it can with him and Mike, with all the stuff that they've talked through to get to this place in this moment? I can't say for certain, but I don't think it's an overreaction to say if you're guessing right now before any of this has played out, two days after we agree to terms on a contract, I would lean toward this is it. Final run. Alright guys, we talked about it earlier. Looks like the Super Bowl is coming to Nashville, right? Super Bowl 64. Mike, you gonna be retired by then or are you gonna be still working with us?

28:24We're working with us. So you're not gonna be there?

28:27Tom Pelissero:I'll be there as a guest. I'll be watching. Of who? Of us? I don't think I know. I'll still be with you guys. He'll be hovering like walking behind the Rich Eisen show set. He'll be like, you know, I'm hearing a little, it sounds a little tinny down here. You know, if you just want to turn that, I think we can fix it. I can't wait. TJ, the hot chicken that week. Oh, baby. Nashville will immediately enter the GOAT Super Bowl rotation with Las Vegas and New Orleans. Overreaction. It's just hard. The weather is unpredictable. the cities that have built stadiums have gotten super bowls including the one that went to minneapolis like if we're setting the super bowl rotation you know miami's out right now because their stadium's not in line there's things that don't dial up even though steven ross has poured a ton of money into that stadium and the way they've built everything out the f1 races and everything else that they have there um but if you were asking me like the short list of places that I would actively want it to be.

29:27Tom Pelissero:New Orleans should absolutely be in the rotation because of a relatively reliable weather. It's a great, walkable city. I think it's fair to say L.A. and Vegas are going to be in the rotation for years to come. Again, because pretty reliable weather-wise. L.A. is just a little too spread out. I know the Super Bowl is coming here next year, but a little too spread out for me. I want a walkable. Well, you're either going to stay downtown. That's where most of the hotels are. I want a walkable city, though. But everything else is spread out. No, listen, for me, the more compact everything is, the better.

30:00Tom Pelissero:And Nashville will be pretty compact. Oh, yeah. If the weather's nice, it's going to be awesome. If the weather's not nice, it's still going to be pretty awesome. But in the rotation is hard if you don't have consistently reliable weather that time of year. Well, Vegas, that was number one. Yeah, Vegas number one. I think it moved. Vegas is number one. Yeah. All right. So last week, all the schedule, the schedule always happens, right? All the teams do their social media videos and all that fun stuff. Now, I have come on in this segment, TJ, and I have said, look, you have felt this way about Trevor Lawrence for a while.

30:39And I was like, you know, I was kind of pushing back. But I was like, you know, maybe it's time to cut the hair. OK, maybe be an adult. Right. And that'll take your game to the next level. so i saw jacksonville's social media schedule release video right and so it was fake right the fake hair got the haircut and i saw that and i went whoa trevor lawrence never cut the hair bro

31:02Tom Pelissero:never never cut the hair gotta keep it long forever i'm gonna say that is an overreaction you got to keep the hair forever i also think it's not an overreaction to say if he does cut it it better not look like that fake cut that he got on the wing. Look at that. And I am a bald man. It's a look at that flow. It's a lot. You got to think it's slowing him down at times. I mean, that's you're carrying extra several pounds. Oh, yeah. I used to think that it was holding him back. And I saw the image of the fake haircut and the end result. Never, never cut the hair, Trevor. And I was in Duval over the weekend.

31:45Great people. I really enjoy my time there. Let's show the other cut real quick. Never cut the hair.

31:49Tom Pelissero:Show the fake cut from the schedule release video. Which, by the way, if you're going to base the entire thing around a haircut, I got to say, like, you got to do it for real. You can't. You can't do the wig. I just, this is like, it's not quite Bieber. It's like a post-wave emo band. That's the lead singer. It's like if Carmella and Furio had a child on Sopranos. Carmella and Furio. You know what I mean? He's got a very strong jawline. I think that's part of why the hair works. The hair works. You've got the square jaw. I think you need that to have. Like, if I grew hair to that length. You could.

32:27Tom Pelissero:I think it would come across a tad more feminine. I don't have strong enough features to offset that much hair. Well, you're not also, you know, 6 '5", 220, chiseled. No offense. What are you saying? I'm just saying you're 5 '10", and not chiseled. 5 '10", 165 pounds of twisted steel. You had the hockey hair over the combine. I'm bringing it back, by the way. Oh, you got the thumbs up. My wife wasn't thrilled, but I delivered the news to the young lady who cuts my hair. I'm going again. All summer. No cuts. The next haircut will be before you see me at the end of July. Back out here to host this show.

33:05Tom Pelissero:Wait, no. Don't cut it before you come back. Well, no. You're promising a hair. That's when you're just going to get it. We're going to get it kind of shaped. No, absolutely not. No, trust me. You don't want to see the two months straight through. No, it is. It's just a ball of split ends and nonsense. It's rough. All right, Mike. You can change me. What do we got? Do you ever consider changing up your haircut?

33:32Tom Pelissero:That's it. That's all I got. If you grew it out. I'd look like Larry David. Two, three months. Oh, my God. Do that, Brockman, please. Would it grow out white like Larry's? You have any idea what color it would be? Oh, no, I don't. You know, I went with the beard a little bit post-Hawaii in March. Remember that, TJ? You guys were all about beard gang. And there was way more gray in that than I remembered the previous time. I had a beard, and I'm like, uh-uh, can't do this anymore. I feel like you'd be... Yeah, Brockman's... Or Del Tufo's still holding on. You would have gray hair. Is that a just-for-men joint Del Tufo, or is that natural?

34:08Tom Pelissero:You dyed your hair for a long time. I did, but I mean, I made it, but now I got salt and pepper. I got great hair. He stopped. Good color. I think, Brockman, you'd be more Doc Brown than Larry David. I'd be pure white. Like, I think it would be, yeah, I can kind of see it on you. I feel like it would just, it would be, because Larry, like, controls it. I feel like yours would just grow out sideways. Yeah. Yeah. Follicles have just been rerouted over many years of all this. I mean, I don't know. They're doing a lot of good things with science and peptides and stuff. Maybe I can get a full head of hair back.

34:40Tom Pelissero:You can just go full Costanza and just get the rug and just pop it on. That would be great. You were both. Hey, we got a game tonight. We got Spurs and Thunder. We do. Game one. And we got the Cavs and Knicks. Don't care about those two teams. But both conference finals, TJ, they're going at least six games. TJ? I hope so. I really hope you're right about this. This postseason has been pretty good. I've read that the numbers, they're breaking all viewership numbers, even though everywhere you look on social media. It's hard to find the games. Well, that part's hard, and you have a group of people just like, I don't watch basketball.

35:18I'm not watching this. And yet the numbers are saying that more people than ever have watched, so I'm confused, Tom, or people not watching.

35:25Tom Pelissero:I would certainly say this, and you made the point. I am much more excited and interested to watch the Western Conference Finals than Eastern Conference Finals. No offense to the Knicks, who have had a fantastic season, and the Cavaliers, who the average casual fan who doesn't watch much Eastern Conference basketball probably watched yesterday were like, so who are the other guys with James Harden? I mean, it is a nondescript. I know they've got some real players. Yeah, I mean, Spider's a star, obviously. It is a nondescript, though, like list of players. Sure. And they're the four seed. And you watch them.

35:54Tom Pelissero:I mean, they dismantled the Pistons yesterday. That also felt like as much the Pistons just were completely discombobulated than it did the Cavs were that good. They shot the Daylights out in the first quarter and the Pistons never got their stinger back. I am I am genuinely excited to watch this game. Game one tonight, even if I would put the over under at 19 and a half flops. I think Wemby has that. Maybe equating these two is wrong, but I, you know, in terms of interest, a kind of like a Caitlin Clark level for the casual NBA fan, I think are really interested in seeing Wemby and seeing what, who is this guy?

36:32I mean, yes, he really is an alien, but he's so, I think he's so, he's got the charisma and obviously to match the skill. And San Antonio has been kind of the perfect foil for OKC this year. And it seems like there's real bad blood between him and Chet. And then you got the whole, you know, flop city that OKC's got going on with Shea winning back-to-back MVPs. whether or not you like his style of basketball. I think it's going to be a really compelling, evenly matched series. Hopefully it goes seven games. I don't know. I just don't know. Yeah, what you said was that is the hardest thing, finding them.

37:06Because every night now I've got to like go on. All right, I checked the guide. Okay, it's not here. It's not here. It's not here.

37:13Tom Pelissero:Now I've got to like go on streaming. All right, is it Peacock? Is it? It's easy if you're at like my house with smart TV and you have all the apps loaded and you can go between them. Being in the hotel last night and going, oh, I can't watch. game or on the TV. And I was in a robe with my iPad balanced on my knees, watching on my iPad. I'm like, this is not how it was intended to be. Why do we need to know you were in a robe? Yeah, I don't know why the robe... Now I've got this vision. I was trying to relax, and instead... Yeah, but you could have just been like, I was chilling in the room. You didn't have to like...

37:44Tom Pelissero:I was trying to relax. I was pumping iron down there. I hadn't gotten in the shower yet. I'm a little freaked out. I'm a little lounge. Am I not allowed to lounge? Yeah, but the robe. You didn't need the robe. I'm with TJ. I did not need to know. I like a good hotel robe. I steal those all the time. Do you think they wash those? They have to wash them. I like a good hotel. No, good hotel robes. That should be in a t-shirt. No, I like a good hotel towel, too. I just, I simply choose not to think about everywhere that towel or that robe has been. There is no such thing as a good hotel towel. Don't do that.

38:16Tom Pelissero:Oh, there, absolutely. No, there's not. because every hotel towel i've been in hotel rooms and i've mopped up stuff with towels and i'm and i'm pretty clean so i can't imagine what that towel's seen from other people there's not a good hotel pillow let's just all agree on that you gotta get the foam pillows yeah all right last one the feather pillows where you lay your head down your head just goes straight through and is on the mattress and then the pillows are just like earmuffs on you that's every feather pillow and why do the bed sheets have to be so tight that's a topic for another day can we get like You guys make your beds.

38:47Tom Pelissero:Don't you make your bed in the hotel? I do make my bed. It's bizarre behavior. Absolutely the strangest thing about you. I throw the covers over. But, like, it's so tight. I once almost tore a calf muscle trying to pull. Would it kill you to give me an extra blanket? Yeah, that part. Just, like, one sheet and then this thin other sheet. It's like, all right, last one. You talked about the Pistons kind of pooping the bed in game. They did a little. It would have been better off if the Pistons got swept than to lose by 30 at home in game seven. No, overreaction. They were a 14-game win two years ago?

39:22Tom Pelissero:14-win team two years ago? They definitely came up, man. You need those experiences. You would rather lose by 30 at home in Game 7? Yeah, but look. You'd rather get swept. Here's the deal. This is going to help build them to next year when hopefully they take another step. We've seen all the great teams do this, right? They get kind of lumped in the playoffs and the conference finals trying to get to that next level. they kind of took their their butt kicking they took that L hopefully next year they're able to step up and then whoever gets Giannis and now their window's closed if he's in the west they don't have to worry about it I I think that it's always better again when you're coming from that place to get as much experience as you can even if it ends in epic humiliating fashion I mean you saw the Pistons fans in there last night they're wearing all their ridiculous get-ups and like you can just see the stress and like oh man I paid however much for these tickets and like You did not show up at all.

40:14Tom Pelissero:Not to mention Cleveland's like a three-hour drive away, so a bunch of people sold their tickets to the Cavs fans coming up. That's a miserable viewing experience, but when you take the step back, and I heard J.B. Bickerstaff say it after the game, you're not disappointed. Think of where they came from. Think of how far, how much they had to do to get in this position. Now, all of a sudden, you're a player. You hope it wasn't a complete mirage. You hope you're in this position, but the pressure now ratchets up. You haven't been to an Eastern Conference final since, what, 2008? Now, all of a sudden, you got one game away.

40:46Tom Pelissero:You played terrible in that game, but you got one game away. Let's see. If you want to play with the big boys, you're going to have to have perhaps a more aggressive type of an offseason than you have in the past. It'll be fun to watch. This has been Overreaction Monday, brought to you by PayPal, the official peer-to-peer payment sponsor of the NFL. 844-204-RICH, the phone number to call. More win-loss game coming up. Mike Garofalo, NFL Network Insider, going to join us as well. Stick around. It's the Rich Eisen Show. Tom Pellicero in for Rich. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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42:32Tom Pelissero:welcome back to the rich eyes and show tom pellicero in for rich mike garofalo nfl network insider my colleague going to join us in just a little bit aaron rogers back in pittsburgh a.j brown is still an eagle what are the other top storylines left in the nfl offseason we'll dive into some of that with mike in just a little bit but we've also now after you guys wimped out on playing the schedule game. We now have a line of callers who all want to show you up and put their money where their mouth is on May 18th about their favorite teams. Let's go to Tanner in Iowa right now. Wants to play the win-loss game with the Vikings.

43:08Tom Pelissero:Are you ready, Tanner? Yeah, and I just wanted to say they're kind of being too scared, I feel, to do it themselves. I agree. 100%. So show them how it's done here, Tanner. Week one, home against the Packers. Win. Week two at Chicago. Close loss. Week three at Tampa. Win. Week four, home against the Dolphins. Win. Week five at New Orleans. Win. All right. Wait, Tanner, before we start, who is the quarterback for all these games? We already started. Oh, the quarterback will be, the start of the year will be Kyler Murray. to start the year, but to finish the year? We're getting there. Week 6-5. They're 4-1, Brockman.

44:00Tom Pelissero:He ain't getting benched after 4-1 start. I didn't know who was winning all these games, that's all. Week 7. Week 7, home against the Colts. Against the Bills, right? Against the Colts. Week 7. Week 8, at Detroit. At Detroit, win. Week 9, home against the Bills on Monday Night Football. I'll go win. 8-1 for the Vikings at this point. Week 10 at Green Bay. Excuse me, 7-1. Week 10 at Green Bay. I'll do a lot. Week 11 against the 49ers in Mexico City.

44:52I'll go post-loss.

44:55Tom Pelissero:Uh-oh. Uh-oh, the skid has begun. Week 12, home against the Falcons. Win. Week 13, home against the Panthers. Win. Week 14, at New England, short week, Thursday night football. That's going to be a big win. Big win. Why did we say big win? For you, Brockman. That was straight for you. He was looking at you through the phone. Week 15, home against the Lions. Win. Week 16, home against the Commanders. Win. Week 17, at the Jets. Win. Week 18, home against the Bears. And we'll close the season off with a win. 14-3 Vikings for Tanner. Thank you. Go to the ball. Thank you very much for the call. 14-3.

45:48if the Vikings go 14-3, I will eat Del Tufo's hat.

45:53Tom Pelissero:I would eat that. Wait, wait, hold on. This has happened once before. Say that louder, Brockman. Well, he doesn't have to. You did it, so I trust that Brockman will eat the hat again. Right, no, but I want to hear him say it again. The Vikings are going 14-3? I'll eat the hat with Brockman. That's how. But if they do, you have to eat the hat. This all counts. We're witnesses. He did. You want to eat any hat? We will eat it. What's that? You want to eat any hat? I didn't eat no hat. Okay. 100%. So we're the witnesses to these two. If the Vikings win 14 or more games in the regular season, we'll both eat Del Tufo's L.A.

46:31Tom Pelissero:Dodgers hat. We'll make a sandwich. And Brock, we will split that sandwich. Yeah, your cockamamie Dodgers hat we can eat. Brock, after saying that, after having done this once. That was your team's fault. No, that was your fault for making a bet. I know you're in charge of doing this once. This needs to end up on X. Kyler Murray's going for McCarthy. 14 wins. Come on. Kevin O 'Connell has how many double-digit win seasons? He has a 13-win season and a 14-win season in his four years. I'm told this is the best division in football. Post this to social media so everybody's on the same page. Stop it.

47:08Tom Pelissero:If this happens, no, I'm not letting you off the hook. You said it so confidently. I am holding you to it.

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