Hour 2: Overreaction Tuesday, Chargers are Legit, plus FOX Sports’ Mark Schlereth

16 Sep 2025 · 47 min · 24 chapters

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In short

NFL Week 2 recap and debate—Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday—focused on Baker Mayfield’s resurgence, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ 2-0 start, the Los Angeles Chargers’ early dominance, and whether the Kansas City Chiefs’ struggles are being overblown. Also discussed the “tush push” officiating controversy and previewed Raiders vs. Commanders.

Guests

Mark Schlereth (3-time Super Bowl champion; NFL on FOX analyst; former NFL offensive lineman). No other guests appear in this hour besides later mention of actor Adam Devine (not present yet).

Key claims

  • Mayfield is “the most fun quarterback” and Tampa Bay wins despite injuries, including both starting tackles down.
  • Chargers are legitimate AFC contenders because they’re winning both lines of scrimmage; Joe Alt’s right-to-left transition is highlighted.
  • Chiefs’ “demise” is exaggerated; they’ll rebound with returning players.
  • Tush push: Schlereth opposes it due to inconsistent legality vs. special-teams rules.

Notable examples

  • Mayfield’s fourth-down scramble/TD drive; his Rams game vs. Broncos (50 points) ending Nathaniel Hackett’s tenure.
  • Chargers schedule: Chiefs (Friday), Raiders (Monday), Broncos (Sunday).
  • Raiders: Geno Smith threw 3 interceptions; Maxx Crosby “ruins games” without needing big stat lines.
  • Colts: Daniel Jones’ game plan vs. Broncos; “Danny Dimes” playing as well as anyone early.

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Kicking Off Hour Two

0:34 to 0:56

Rich introduces topics for the second hour, including Overreaction Tuesday.

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Kicking Off Hour Two

1:25 to 2:14

Rich introduces topics for the second hour, including Overreaction Tuesday.

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Welcoming Mark Schlereth

2:14 to 3:00

Rich introduces NFL analyst Mark Schlereth to discuss football insights.

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Baker Mayfield's Journey

3:00 to 4:08

Mark shares thoughts on Baker Mayfield's career and performance.

“Your thoughts on the Monday night doubleheader.”

Chargers' Performance Analysis

4:08 to 7:20

Mark discusses the Chargers' two wins and their impact in the NFL.

“And I'd tell you what, I can't say enough good things about Baker Mayfield.”

Chiefs' Current State

7:20 to 11:28

Mark evaluates the Chiefs' situation after their recent games.

“When they drafted Alt, he said, hey, man, that's an offensive weapon, tip of the spear.”

Tush Push Debate

11:28 to 14:00

Mark shares his stance on the controversial 'tush push' play in football.

“I think the Chiefs are still a damn good football team.”

Discussion on Special Teams Rules

14:00 to 14:37

Explores the inconsistencies in NFL rules regarding special teams and offense.

“guard and the center, trying to get elevation and penetration so that he could block a six-foot-seven, so he could block a PT or a field goal.”

Mark Schlereth's Insight on Game Preparations

14:43 to 15:46

Mark Schlereth shares his approach to preparing for NFL games, including team visits.

“Mark Schler, a few minutes left with the NFL on Fox analyst right here on the Rich Eyes and Show.”

Analyzing Jaden Daniels' Progress

15:46 to 17:08

Schlereth evaluates Jaden Daniels' performance and discusses his potential.

“I guess new ownership there is upgraded.”
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Discussion on Top NFL Teams

17:08 to 20:36

Debates which teams are the best in the NFL after two weeks, focusing on the Packers and Chargers.

“Second game against Green Bay, not so much.”

The Rise of the Colts and Danny Dimes

20:36 to 22:45

Analyzes the Colts' surprising performance and Danny Dimes' resurgence with the Giants.

“You've got, you know, the Cincinnati Bengals at 2-0.”

Closing Remarks with Mark Schlereth

22:45 to 23:02

Wrap-up of the conversation with Schlereth, touching on his insights and humor.

“Yeah, we're calling him Danny Dimes if he keeps playing that way.”

Call-in Segment on Mike Tomlin's Coaching

25:57 to 27:40

Listeners debate Mike Tomlin's effectiveness as a coach amidst playoff histories.

“Because after the last 15 years, three playoff wins, two of which were against backups, and that would be Alex Smith, Matt Moore, and I think A.J.”

Pittsburgh's Future with Aaron Rodgers

27:40 to 28:00

Discusses the Steelers' potential in the upcoming season with Aaron Rodgers.

“I don't know if he's listening to something else there or whatever.”

Coaching Trees and Playoff Aspirations

28:00 to 29:15

Discussion about coaching trees and potential playoff scenarios for teams like Pittsburgh and New England.

“We'll talk about that later on in Ireland.”

Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday

29:15 to 29:51

The show's signature segment where hosts humorously overreact to the previous NFL games.

“They're like, just at this point in time, let's change it up.”

Evaluating the Chargers' Potential

29:51 to 31:28

Assessment of the Chargers' performance and their standing in the AFC, discussing Justin Herbert's capabilities.

“It's been a while since I stepped on that drop, by the way.”

Quarterback Comparisons and Draft Decisions

31:28 to 36:30

Debate about Baker Mayfield's fun playing style and a retrospective on the Bengals' draft decisions regarding Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.

“Quite the W plus GTFOH quite like Baker Mayfield.”

NFL Playoff Predictions and Team Assessments

36:30 to 38:12

Predictions on which undefeated NFL teams will make the playoffs and discussions around the implications of team performances.

“so jamar chase would be the one catching passes from golf now is that that's the sliding door here wherever.”

AFC West Playoff Scenarios

38:12 to 39:26

Discussion on the AFC West playoff scenarios, evaluating the likelihood of multiple teams making it to the playoffs.

“I'm thinking about what we talk about the best.”

Chargers Overview and Jim's Impact

40:39 to 42:00

Analysis of the Chargers' performance and the impact of Jim's coaching on Justin Herbert's development.

“Not to go all Brian Kelly on you, but you play the game to win the game.”

Analyzing the Chargers' Performance and Potential

42:00 to 47:32

Gain insights into the Chargers' current season performance and predictions for their future games.

“or his first year there, 5 ,000 yards and 4 ,000 yards and hasn't thrown for 4 ,000 yards since in two years.”

Analyzing the Chargers' Performance and Potential

47:33 to 47:57

Gain insights into the Chargers' current season performance and predictions for their future games.

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1:41Earlier on the show, Packers quarterback Jordan Love. Coming up, three-time Super Bowl champion Mark Schlereth. Actor Adam Devine. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

1:56Rich Eisen:hour number two of day number two of this week the day after week number two in the national football it's very sesame street like way to open up this uh second hour of the program brought to you by the number two uh here on espn radio presented by progressive insurance we're also thrilled to be streaming every single day now 12 to 3 eastern on disney plus and the espn app everywhere. We also say hello to those listening on SiriusXM Channel 80. I am loving looking down and seeing all of our phone lines lit. I'm assuming Adam, our call screener, is as well. Be gentle with him. He still thinks Tyson Bajan's around the corner for his Chicago Bears.

2:34Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday coming up in this hour. We'll also hit on the Chargers win over the Raiders, as well as some injury news going around the National Football League. We've seen a ton of backup quarterbacks all of a sudden in just week number three. And the very funny and talented Adam Devine will be coming here in hour number three to chat about his new commercial with Marshawn Lynch. I think a lot of people are seeing out there. But joining us right now, one of our favorites to tell us what he thinks about the National Football League, three-time Super Bowl champion and NFL on Fox analyst, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schlereth back on the program.

3:14Rich Eisen:What's up, Bud? How are you, sir? How are you? I'm good, man. How are you, Rich? Always good to be with you, buddy. Right back at you. Your thoughts on the Monday night doubleheader. I'll give you the floor on anything that jumps out at you about last night's two-pack to end week two. Baker Mayfield's all balls. How about that? I mean, that guy is, talk about incredible. And I love, like, I love the journey. I love the process, right? Going from Cleveland, going to the playoffs, and then going eight and nine the next year, getting dumped, going to Carolina. At one point, I remember showing pictures on a broadcast of Baker Mayfield running scout team defensive end, and then he gets cut from Carolina, signs with the Rams, has that game.

3:59I think it's a Christmas Day game against the Broncos where he hangs like 50 on them, which ended Nathaniel Hackett's head coaching tenure with Denver. And what he's done in Tampa Bay, gambling on himself, like just to watch this journey to watch the guy grow up to watch what he did at the end of the game fourth down and 10 scrambles you got a free runner out of me makes a miss and then scrambles for that 10 yard and leads them to a touchdown drive that that dude like that is a guy when you're a player in this league that you want to play with that's a dude you want on your team that's a dude that everybody hates that plays against you and everybody in your locker room absolutely loves.

4:41And I'd tell you what, I can't say enough good things about Baker Mayfield. Bucky Irvin is unbelievable what a football player that guy is. But both their starting tackles are down. Like, both starting tackles are out. And they find a way to win that game. My former teammate, Todd Bowles, the head coach, touche 2-0 for the, what, the fifth or sixth straight year they started the season 2-0. Good for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

5:06Rich Eisen:Well, again, not to compare, and I love Baker, but not to compare him to John Elway. The only reason why I bring him up is you blocked for a guy who was first overall who would play all, as you just pointed out, and put his body on the line and do things like helicoptering and Super Bowls and stuff like that. When Baker does what we've just been talking about, what's it like for an offensive lineman to welcome him back to the huddle? What is that like? How does that put a charge in that huddle, Mark? Listen, man, I go back to kind of probably the signature play in Broncos history. In Elway's history, you mentioned it, the helicopter.

5:44And, you know, that's a third down and sixth play. And we had 100%. It was 100 % the Green Bay Packers were going to play out of this formation on that position in the field. They would play this particular defense 100 % of the time. and John had asked coach Shanahan and goes well what if they don't well it's 100 they're going to play it well of course what happens in the Super Bowl they don't play it and so the play we called is no good against the defense we called so John scrambles to his right takes off it's a third down six gets hit by simultaneously by three Green Bay Packers you know does the whirly bird and we're all running down there to try to hoist him up but at that point as you're walking back to the huddle rich you just like a you just are like there is no freaking way he's 37 years old he's sacrificing his body there is no freaking way the green bay packers are going to beat us today it's almost like a herb brooks thing right not today you know if we play them 10 times they'll beat us nine times but not today boys and that's what it felt like man it's awesome yeah i bet i

6:53Rich Eisen:bet man and and and the bucks being 2-0 but the chargers are 2-0 as well and you want to talk Talk about a tackle being out. Rashawn Slater, that would normally sink a team, but it's so great to have a fifth overall pick and Joe Alt right there. And he's making it look easy and not against any pikers either. I mean, against the Chiefs and the Raiders, your assessment of what the charges have looked like after two weeks, Mark? I love the philosophy of Jim Harbaugh. When they drafted Alt, he said, hey, man, that's an offensive weapon, tip of the spear. and it is so hard to move from the right side to the left side.

7:32It is a really difficult thing to do. I know it doesn't sound hard, but it really is hard. And, you know, you make it akin to all of a sudden writing a turn paper with your left hand if you're right-handed. It's hard to do. And everything turns backwards. You know, your feet are backwards. Your hand is different. Hand is on the ground. As a matter of fact, you know, in my playing days, there were three guys. when I switched from right guard in Washington to left guard in Denver, I messed a whole year with my stance, trying to feel comfortable coming off the ball. And I tried going left-handed.

8:06I tried doing all that stuff. And what convinced me not to is two of the best players in the national football league at that time as offensive linemen, both played in the AFC and both played left guard with their hand down and their right hand down. And that was Bruce Matthews. And that was Steve was new ski. and so I was like screw it man I'm not changing my stance I'm playing with my right hand down and um and and that's the way it's going to be because I couldn't switch over and then to see alt just jump over there and have no issues with it um absolutely incredible and you think about this they play the Broncos this weekend so the Chargers I've never seen this before Rich and and I'm sure it's it's happened before in the past but I don't remember it and I've never seen it they start and open up a Friday night with Kansas City.

8:55Then they play on a Monday night against the Vegas Raiders. And now they're going to play Sunday against the Broncos. Three divisional opponents in a row. You think about this. If the Chargers are able to beat the Broncos in SoFi, I mean, how big a lock do you have on the division right now in the first three weeks of the season? It's incredible.

9:18Rich Eisen:Yeah, they'd have a game and a half lead on the Broncos, right? Or two and a half game lead on the Broncos. They could make the Broncos one and two with one in their pocket against them. The Raiders, they've already beaten. And the Chiefs, they're up currently right now two and a half games on the nine times in a row AFC West winners. And they've been looking, I mean, dominant. Dominant, certainly on defense. They've been looking absolutely dominant over the first eight quarters. And as you pointed out, one more thing, they play on every different day of the week. They play on a Friday, on a Monday, on a Sunday.

9:56Rich Eisen:They play in the Southern Hemisphere. They'll play in the Northern Hemisphere. They'll play in Nevada. They'll play at home. I mean, it's just like a Dr. Seuss rhyme. They don't care where they would have to do it. They're just ready to dominate. Yeah. I used to have a coach in college say, we'll drive to Sam in Idaho and play in the parking lot. We don't give a rip. and you know and that's that's part of the deal now they lost Khalil Mack I don't know how long he is I haven't read the reports this morning how long he'll be out but it looked bad so that that is never a good thing but man I tell you defense and being able to dominate line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball that stuff travels there is no question about it and as a public service announcement to all your wonderful fans because I know you have a ton of them thank I just want to let you guys know that I checked and the Chiefs are still in last place.

10:46Rich Eisen:Look at you, man. Look at the PSA troll job from Mark Slareth. All right, let's jump into there. I mean, the Chiefs lose in Brazil, although they had a chance to win it at the end if Chris Jones didn't take the path that he took on third and 14 at Justin Herbert. And then this past week as well, a lack of a connection between Mahomes and Kelsey, what they could normally do in their sleep, leads to a quick turnaround in a game that they still had a chance to win. I mean, 0-2 against the Chargers and the Eagles, they might play in the Super Bowl against each other. So how dire do you think things are for the Chiefs, Mark?

11:27No, I don't think they're dire. I think the Chiefs are still a damn good football team. I just, you know, it's just been so long. It's been like just a long, dry walk through the desert, especially if you're an AFC West fan of anybody other than the Chiefs. So it's just good old-fashioned sports hate, and I have a lot of it for the Chiefs. I have a ton of respect for them and what they've been able to accomplish. They're going to get players back. Rasheed Rice will come back eventually. I love what they did in the draft. Like the Josh Smith or Josh Simmons kid, he was my favorite player coming out, like my favorite offensive lineman of all the guys I studied.

12:09I think he's incredibly gifted. I know he had the patella tendon issue coming out and toward at Ohio State. But that kid is so freaking talented. He's so good. I don't know when worthy, what the report on worthy is when he'll be back. but you know the demise of the chiefs i think is is greatly over exaggerated rated i think they'll be fine you know they will they will eventually win a game and uh and at the end of the year i believe they'll be right back in the thick of things but uh it couldn't have started any better for those of us who uh are a little bit like we're a little bit triggered by the chiefs and we're a little bit uh you know just just sick of the chiefs and and their winning ways yeah well i mean people

12:53Rich Eisen:were beginning to feel that way about the tush push too coming out of that game where it was a clear um a clear false start on the eagles at one point a ball comes loose too you can't tell it can't officiate it can't replay it you know your colleague and my former colleague at the nfl uh network in the nfl and dean blandino says i'm over it like he's but i mean we're we're i keep i feel like i ask you every time you come on where do you stand on this issue now any change what do Yeah. No, not really. I mean, like, I think it's, you know, it is a football play. I know it's hard to officiate. They always look like they're off sides a hundred percent of the time when they run it.

13:30Um, you know, there are a lot of, there are a lot of things, um, that, you know, people complain about in regards to that. My biggest issue. And the reason I said I would ban it is not because I don't think it's a football play and not because the, the, I don't want the Philadelphia the Eagles to have that advantage. I was part of the league in a time where we'd line up on special teams, PAT field goal, and you'd have a dude that would be, for me, it was in Washington with Mike Tice. I would be standing behind Mike Tice, shoving him through the A-gap between the guard and the center, trying to get elevation and penetration so that he could block a six-foot-seven, so he could block a PT or a field goal.

14:12And eventually, the league made that illegal. You can't aid a rusher. So wait a minute. It's illegal on special teams, but it's not illegal on offense. How is that congruent? The answer is it's not. And so that's the only thing that really bothers me is that what's good for the goose is not good for the gander. You should be able to do that on the other side of the ball then. And if it's illegal on the other side of the ball, then it should be illegal on the offensive side of the ball as well.

14:43Rich Eisen:Mark Schler, a few minutes left with the NFL on Fox analyst right here on the Rich Eyes and Show. You have Raiders commanders this week, correct? Is that your next? Yes, that is correct. OK, when do you normally zoom with staffs or quarterbacks? When does that normally happen for you? I don't zoom with anybody. I go to practice. Look at you. I like to go in the building and then I go to I go to the team hotel when the team comes in. So I will be Friday. I will be at the commander's facility, you know, stealing. They've got a big tray of beef jerky out there. So I always load my bag up before, you know, as I walk back in from practice, they got like drinks and they got things for the players.

15:25And, you know, I feel like I'm a former player. So once a Redskin, always a Redskin. So I grab a bunch of jerky and I shove it in my bag. And so I'll be there Friday and then Saturday morning, bright and early, I will head over to the Raiders team hotel and meet with Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll and and Gino and Max.

15:45Rich Eisen:All right. Two things from what you just said. One, you'll know this. I guess new ownership there is upgraded. It used to be just jerky there. Now it's beef jerky. Secondly, I noticed you mentioned a starting quarterback that you're going to visit with the Raiders, but you didn't with the commanders. and that is because yeah well jay daniels has no man like right what that would be monumental there's just no with all due respect to marcus mariota but monumental monumental um it'll be interesting too because we the the breakdown with those guys was it was mariota the the text that you know we're on this text thread with the organizations so it was mariota or jayden daniels depending on what the situation, what the status is on Friday.

16:32So, yeah, that's what we've got there. I will say this. You know, we talk about sophomore slumps. We talk about some of those things. I think that Jaden, having watched both games and really broken down both games, you know, from the coach's tape, a lot of errant throws, a lot of throws behind players, a lot of off-target throws so far early in the season. First game, they really did a good job running the football. They had some really, they're very tricky in their run game. A lot of misdirection stuff. Obviously, Jaden Daniels is so good at holding the backside edge because he can run and all those things.

17:10Second game against Green Bay, not so much. And you got to tip your cap to the Green Bay Packers. I think ultimately I've watched pretty much every play of every game so far this year, Rich. And I thought the Green Bay Packers on tape are the best team in the National Football League that I've seen through the first two weeks.

17:27Rich Eisen:Well, I guess the Lions and commanders would agree with you, right? And we just had Jordan Love in our number one, and you saw what the Lions did when they weren't playing Green Bay. Again, I understand week one is different from week two. Road is clearly different from home. And, you know, there was that extra juice in the building because of the narrative that the Lions aren't going to be the same because Ben Johnson is gone and Ben Johnson was there and thus a 50-burger was served up. I understand all that. but I guess if Jaden Daniels is as healthy as they hope he can be to take on the Raiders we'll see what the commanders look like when not taking on the Packers and then there's a Raiders team last night that the the Chargers kind of toyed around with on defense so I guess that's my way of transitioning to what you saw from the Raiders on Monday night going into this game on a short week on the road early window too that's not easy for a West Coast team to do yeah yeah for sure I I thought that I thought in week one, I thought the Raiders against New England played really well.

18:28I thought play action wise, Gino was really sharp. He did throw one interception in that particular game, but I thought he was really sharp. I am just waiting for Ashton Gentry. And, you know, like my Kansas City Chiefs take, he played for Boise State, which makes me want to vomit. But the kid is unbelievable. He is a breakout run ready, just waiting to happen. He's going to have one of those 60 yarders. I mean, this kid is dynamic. He is special. I just thought discipline-wise, now, you know, the Raiders turned it over. Geno threw three picks. Second half, you know, it wasn't very good. But I thought their week one performance was pretty good, and I thought they had fixed a lot of things that weren't very good from last year.

19:14I thought their offensive line, their scheme was better. I thought they protected better. and defensively they're playing with unbelievable effort and that was really that for me has been really cool to watch them like Max Crosby one of my notes was Max Crosby will ruin a game without compiling one statistic he is one of those guys that may he may not have a tackle he may not have a sack he may not have a pressure and he'll completely ruin your game it is unreal to watch the guy play, the effort with which he gives, and the understanding when he sees certain formations, you can tell that on tape, you can tell that he just knows what they're running.

20:00It's like, oh, I'm in their playbook. And he's a lot of fun to watch, a lot of fun to talk to. And his style of play, I think, is infectious for that whole Raiders organization. So they're a much improved, last night notwithstanding, I believe they're a much improved football team.

20:16Rich Eisen:And then lastly for you, Mark, you said you've seen pretty much every snap of every game so far through the first two weeks. That's so, you know, we could do the math for you. That's that's 32 games. So you mentioned that the Packers are the best team that you've seen so far. What about the AFC? We can talk bills. You could talk about the Chargers. Obviously, you've got yourself the Colts at 2-0 as well. You've got, you know, the Cincinnati Bengals at 2-0. but without Burrow now? I mean, who's the best team in the AFC that you've seen? Mark, could be the Ravens too. What do you got? Yeah, the Ravens, obviously, what the Bills have done, you know, the Bills are just, the Bills are really good because they're so balanced on the offensive side of the ball.

21:01And, you know, they gave up 40 points to Baltimore, but Baltimore will do that to a lot of people because their scheme is so hard to defend. I love what the Chargers are doing because they're winning both lines of scrimmage. They're just beating people up. So I think they're a really good football team as well. And so they've been fun for me to watch. I'm telling you, the Indianapolis Colts, and I'm not going to call them the best team, but maybe one of the coolest stories. Because what Daniel Jones did to a Broncos defense that we all assume was going to be the best defense in the National Football League, what they did, Shane Steichen, from a game planning standpoint, you know, running the bootkeep game, running the quick game, running the – if they're going to drop back and take a seven-step or it's going to be off a play pass with a two-man route, the way they ran, they attacked the sea gaps.

21:53They attacked smaller defensive edge players in that game, and they just set plays up, and they attacked coverages, and they attacked players in open spaces. And I just thought it was an incredible game plan. I thought it was an incredible execution. I thought their offensive line, when they had one-on-ones, they won all their one-on-ones. So I just thought from a physical standpoint, and then Danny Jones, Danny Dimes, who, let's face it, was a disappointment in New York and really never kind of achieved what they thought he could achieve. Danny Dimes is playing as good as anybody in the league right now.

22:30So it's a really tip of the cap to Stike in the Colts. And Danny Dimes, who continues, you know, I mean, like we kind of wrote him off. and didn't think he was going to be worth a crap. And through two games, man, the guy has played his butt off.

22:45Rich Eisen:Yeah, we're calling him Danny Dimes if he keeps playing that way. Danny Dimes, there you go, or Indiana Jones. Yeah, Danny Dimes, it's not valuable enough the way he's playing. Mark, thanks for the time. Love chatting with you, man, always. Absolutely, Rich. Take care, brother. Enjoy the beef jerky, sir. I will. Words I've never said to another man, but I think it worked. Mark Schlereth right here. Check him out on Fox. Raiders Commanders early window on Fox. 844-204-RICH. Let's take a break. Phone calls and overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. Coming up.

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25:48Rich Eisen:Back here on ESPN Radio, it's presented by Progressive Insurance. Protect the stuff you love with renter's insurance. Visit progressive.com. dot com um let's go here ryan in erie pennsylvania wants to chime in for the subject matter uh what's up wonders ryan hey rich what's up you there ryan yeah i'm here okay you're on the air sir what's up hey um genuine question i have for you why is it that you and other people across this network and other networks feel like Mike Tomlin's a good coach. Because after the last 15 years, three playoff wins, two of which were against backups, and that would be Alex Smith, Matt Moore, and I think A.J.

26:40McCarron. Okay.

26:44Rich Eisen:So you're pushing back on my belief that Mike Tomlin's a good coach, which by the way, every single time I ever call into Pittsburgh Sports Talk Radio, it's on like Donkey Kong, you know, so. He's in the area. All right, that makes sense. So listen, man, all I know is talking to his players, they love him. And I understand that you are 100 % upset about the lack of playoff wins because that's what it's about in Pittsburgh, and he knows it too. He knows it too. So, and, well, they put their eggs in the Aaron Rodgers basket. Let's see what happens. But all I will tell you is that if the Steelers ever move on from him, he will be hired within five minutes.

27:26Rich Eisen:And other teams might fire their coaches to hire him. And you think I'm nuts? You know, and we'll find out whoever the Steelers go ahead and replace him with. But I don't think that's going to happen, Ryan. That's the truth. And I know that that answer pisses off. Thanks for the call, Ryan. I don't know if he's listening to something else there or whatever. But I know that pisses off Steelers fans significantly. pisses him off and and and the pushback is um look at sean mcveigh look at kyle shanahan look at the coaching trees that come out of that right bruce arians uh another another coach just for i just saw him on the screen he's on pat show right now you know i mean like where's the coaching tree who's his coaching tree yeah and that's always a pushback involving him as well I just don't know they put the eggs in the Rogers basket week one looked amazing week two most certainly did not and you know we'll talk about what Rogers looked like with Kurt Warner tomorrow before I chime in I'm not an all 22 guy but Kurt's on our Wednesday show to talk about exactly this sort of stuff they're at New England they're at New England this week that's going to be an interesting one because they're taking on next up they're taking on the Minnesota Vikings and what could be Carson Wentz.

28:41Rich Eisen:We'll talk about that later on in Ireland.

28:47Rich Eisen:So Pittsburgh, I think, should make the playoffs this year, and I would love for them to make the playoffs because I'd love to see Aaron Rodgers in another win-or-go-home game, and we'll see what happens then. We will see what happens then. Listen, the whole Tomlin stuff, I believe in him. I love him. All of us in the media do love him because he's incredible when you meet with him. You want to run through a brick wall. You really do. and you could say, well, you've been shined, Rich. This guy is, you know, this, that, the other thing. And I understand why Steelers fans are sick of it. They're like, just at this point in time, let's change it up.

29:20Rich Eisen:Be careful what you wish for is all I'm going to say. Indy Reed got fired from Philadelphia and it worked out just fine. Philadelphia also found somebody pretty darn good too. You know, Peterson won one and Sirianni's won one. So that might be the pushback from the Steelers fans. I understand. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. It's a Tuesday, which means it's time for Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. Hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. It's been a while since I stepped on that drop, by the way. I've been really disciplined.

30:00Rich Eisen:Really disciplined. Don't hurt yourself. Patting myself on the back? Whoa. Hey, everybody. Everybody good? Hey, what's up? How you doing, kid? I'm not doing well. I hurt myself patting myself on the back. You and Cleo Mack with that elbow. No, I mean, my God. Have you ever seen somebody's elbow bend that way? And then he's just like, yeah, I think I need to go to the blue tent right now. Don't look at the video. I might start crying if that ever happened. Oh, I was in the middle of recording our podcast when that happened. And I just, oh, Shane's like, what are you screaming about? I was just like, oh, Cleo Mack.

30:32Rich Eisen:Yeah, don't look at that. All right, what else you got over there, Chris? Cleo Mack's team, the Chargers, they are good. In fact, they're the second best team in the AFC. You can make the case they're the best team in the AFC. So I'll clearly, that would be my only pushback. Wow. You're going all the way best. Dude, I saw them with my own two eyes in a different hemisphere on a Friday night. They got the offense to keep up with those other two teams that I'm not saying, but inferring. Excuse me. Do you see what Justin Herbert looks like right now? They're not even running the ball well. Omari and Hampton hasn't really started running yet.

31:04Rich Eisen:They have not run the ball well. they're throwing it and yeah they've got the offense to keep up with it 100 but they also have the defense to me to make it basically ask justin herbert for two scores give me two scores let dicker the kicker give me a couple of field goals and we got this and we'll talk about that more later on in this program so you can make the case the chargers are the best team in the afc they're one of four two and oh teams one of them is starting their backup quarterback in the bengals another one is starting you know um daniel dimes slash danny diamonds we will see how they matriculate from 2-0 and we have jonathan taylor on wednesday's show nice and the bills are the 2-0 team that we haven't mentioned yet so the chargers taking on the bills i don't think they do this year how about that that would be a great playoff game the question is where would it take place or it could be a horrible at the end of the day for the right to play in the super bowl yep and i think cbs is currently lighting a candle for that being a possibility so i'll buy this you like the only reason why i would push back is i think second best might be too low christopher fun i wrote this not knowing how we would start the program today but i think you're going to agree with this one too baker mayfield is the most fun quarterback to watch in the nfl right now i mean come on now name a more fun quarterback to watch i i i could i could name lamar i could name josh allen right uh jayden daniels went healthy uh matthew stafford when he's no looking um you know danny diamonds when he's killing it but nobody combines the w's with the Fs quite like this guy.

32:57You know?

32:58Rich Eisen:Nobody does. Quite the W plus GTFOH quite like Baker Mayfield. And he is, I'm not going to say this is an overreaction as well. I thought you would say that he's going to be in the top three of MVP voting. I thought you'd really start penning me in here. Let's hold on. Let's hold on a second. What do you mean? Let's just relax. Meaning what? Like, do you have that written down? No, let's just pump the MVP breaks for Baker. The fact that you're even saying that during an overreaction Monday segment when you normally remove all filters. Okay. So I'll agree with this. We're two for two. What else?

33:36Rich Eisen:Let's go three for three. Okay. I like it when coaches petty. We love the petty. We love the petty scale. I also secretly like running up the score, which is what the Lions did on Sunday. The Lions are who we thought they were heading into the season. legit Super Bowl contenders. Christopher, I mean, you're now spinning one in the zone for me to take out. Well, they look terrible in week one. Yeah, but who chose the Lions to win the NFC in this studio? Yeah, but you were already thinking about a mulligan. I was already hoping for Thanksgiving to come by fast, but then I see 50 points, and I'm like, that's the team that I thought could win the NFC.

34:15Rich Eisen:Now, we'll see what happens when they go on the road again, and that was what, you know, Jameer Gibbs, who was the, was that Albert Brewer who came on Monday's show saying he spoke to Jameer Gibbs and Gibbs said the week one issue was communication. That they had a problem communicating with one another with a new OC on the road in Lambeau Field. Things are going fast. You couldn't communicate where number one was on the field. Well, the Lions, we next see them on a Monday night or in Baltimore. So we'll see what happens when rubber meets road here. But so far so good. and I'll agree with this.

34:48Rich Eisen:We're three for three. What else you got over there? All right, let's see if we can't buck this trend. Thinking about the Bengals, right? They're 2-0, sure. But Joe Burrow has been hurt a lot in his career so far, and mostly it's because of the offensive line. And I'm thinking back to the 2021 draft, and they probably should have just taken Penny Sewell in the first round. You know what I mean? Because if you look who went later on in that draft at wide receiver, they could have had Nico Collins in the second round, and Amon Ross St. Brown in the third round, that would have worked out just fine.

35:20And you would have had a Hall of Fame left tackle to protect Joe Burrow.

35:24Rich Eisen:Talk about going overreaction with 2020 goggles here, man. That was the argument. That was the debate on draft day. What they should do. That was a meme, right? It was Burrow with a couple stick figures and one was him throwing a deep pass with Jamar Chase open and one was him being protected well one was one the one was chase is drafted and burrows on is behind okay and you know where chase is open but burrows on his behind and then there's one where burrows completing a pass because sewell was in front of yeah that's what it was but to who knows who or it could have been higgins at the time then they already have it was chase yeah yeah it was option a i mean he's upright and protected and not wearing casts would that really make the difference or four other guys or four other guys would be the ones to sack yeah that's not going to stop that toe injury i'll just push back and call this an outstanding overreaction but one that makes i could i could see your path to the basket here to mix metaphors again nico collins and almond raw went boy it's basically say you should pass on jamar chase yeah so jamar chase would be the one catching passes from golf now is that that's the sliding door here wherever.

36:41Rich Eisen:I mean, he probably would have went in the first round. Let's see. Jamar Chase. I'll just push back. What else you got over there? Jamar Chase probably would have went to Miami where he also would have won nothing. What else you got over there, Chris? All right. There are let's see. There are 9, 10, 2-0 teams. At least three of them are going to miss the playoffs. So you're saying San Francisco, Arizona, Cincinnati. Bing, bang, boom. Those are the three. Look at you, Rich. I'm looking at 2-0 and I'm sure the Eagles aren't that or the Bucs aren't that. Correct? Correct. That's what, you know, remarkably, nobody in the NFC North is 2-0 other than Green Bay, who've already taken to go to the Super Bowl.

37:25Rich Eisen:Win it. So you're not including them. I am not.

37:30Three.

37:31Rich Eisen:I'll call that an overreaction. Colts? Are we believers yet? No, I understand. But you, so how many, how many, how many undefeated teams are there? there's nine, right? There's ten. There's four in the AFC and there's six in the AFC. So you're saying seven will make it. Seven are in. Which is just kind of what 2-0 teams, 77 % of the teams make it. So... I'm adding an extra one. I'm rounding up. You're putting them right in the middle. No, I know you are. Which is why you've set the line appropriately is what I'm saying. Yeah. I'll take the under, though. Maybe even four. I'll take the under. I'm rounding up and saying that eight will make it of the 2-0 teams.

38:10Rich Eisen:We'll see what it is. Put a pin in it. You got one more over there? Last one. I'm thinking about what we talk about the best. You think we need one more? We'll get one more. There you go. You got it. I can't believe it. The AFC West is only getting two playoff teams.

38:29Rich Eisen:That's an overreaction right now. I'll still call it an overreaction. Yeah, I'll call that an overreaction. 0-2 is only at 15%. No, I got it. I got it. I understand it. That would mean... The Raiders don't look good. No, because the AFC East is not getting two, and the AFC South might not get two, right? Which means three from the West would leave only one from the North or two from the North. So I just named it. There you go. Three from the West, two from the North, and still only one from the South, one from the East. Totally possible right now. I'll push back on this call in an overreaction.

39:04Rich Eisen:Good stuff, Christopher. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. We'll talk about the charges when we come back. Oh, yeah. And we've got the latest Harbaugh file, which is an excellent Jim soundbite postgame on Monday night from Las Vegas. And then we'll talk about the Raiders top of our three before Adam Devine strolls in here.

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40:39Rich Eisen:back here on the rich eyes and show uh here on espn radio presented by progressive insurance i saw the los angeles charges my own two eyes in brazil and this is a team that led the league in scoring defense last year and now they have an offense to support it with a lot more points and I know last night they didn't put up more than 20. I get it. They don't need to. Not to go all Brian Kelly on you, but you play the game to win the game. Which is again, more for bros. I mean, Herm was a little bit more economical in his words. Herm was ahead of his time. That's why Jim kicked a field goal to go up 20-6 on the one-yard line.

41:30Rich Eisen:because I got a team that's going to be in Geno's grill all night and create the issues for the Raiders on offense that will get us the ball back. And I got Justin Herbert throwing it around. I mean, listen, this guy's unlocked. Yeah. And I'm saying this because I know he came into this year with the most passing yards of anybody in the first five years of their career, and he had 4 ,000 yards in his rookie season or his first year there, 5 ,000 yards and 4 ,000 yards and hasn't thrown for 4 ,000 yards since in two years. And now here's his extension. Starts right now. This is the year his extension kicks in where he's cost a lot more.

42:13Rich Eisen:And Jim has got this guy unlocked in a way where he's better than the years when he was throwing for 4 ,000 yards and 5 ,000 yards. And I don't know what his final number is going to be this year, but if Quentin Johnston is going to squeeze it rather than drop it. Yep. And Keenan Allen is back now. Keenan Allen is rejuvenated. And Ladidi McConkey. Ladidi. I looked at the Texans' 20-point loss to the Texans, the Chargers' 20-point loss to the Texans in last year's playoffs. He had Ladidi, who, by the way, set the record for most passing yards, receiving yards in a game, in a playoff game by a rookie with 197.

42:54Rich Eisen:97 the dd mechon cave but the other guys he was targeting were will disley tucker fisk dj chark darius davis who's still on the team quentin johnston got five targets zero catches that wouldn't happen this year the way i'm seeing the first two weeks and the running back room with all due respect to jk dobbins and gus edwards omarion hampton and naji harris haven't been unlocked yet either and they're 2-0 and they are killing people on defense the defensive staff that I was speaking to they weren't talking about Khalil Mack of course they talk about Derwin James because he's all world but this Dian Henley that's who they were talking about number zero on your program yeah holy cow is he everywhere in Brazil and last night he was questionable due to an illness if he's sick Heck, he plays like Jordan when he's sick.

43:55Rich Eisen:He became the first Chargers player to record 10 or more tackles, one or more sacks, and one or more interceptions in a game since Rodney Harrison in 2000. So if he's playing like Rodney Harrison, and Derwin James isn't the guy playing like Rodney Harrison, and they have a pass rush, and they've got corners that are going to hit you. They win the West? Right now, Mike, they are two and a half up on the Chiefs. They're one and a half up on the Raiders. including a win in Vegas and next week they've got the Broncos in their house for their season opener at home and they could be up on the Broncos plus as well by two and a half games and if the Raiders lose to the Commanders while the Chargers beat the Broncos and the Chiefs even if they win they'd be up two and a half on everybody in their division but that defense man.

44:53Rich Eisen:Jim Harbaugh was going on and on and on about it to the point it is this edition of the Harbaugh Files. Sometimes people that are standing on third base think they hit a triple but they didn't. The Harbaugh Files. Great road win division game. Real blue collar game. I thought the special teams played winning football. Offense played winning football. and the defense guardians of victory today. I mean, they had our back, our front, our side. And it was just a tremendous defensive performance. The turnovers, three interceptions, the fourth down stops, Derwin, Dan Henley, Matt True, you know, playing with a fever.

45:46and, you know, Deshaun Hand, T.R. Tartt, D. Jack,

45:57Tarheep Still. I mean, every single name you could go through. Tony Jefferson just is incredible.

46:06Rich Eisen:Yeah, defense was – thank goodness for defense. They were the guardians of victory today. The Harbaugh Files. I might have to rename my fantasy team. Guardians of Victory. Hell yeah. I got a fever. Hell yeah. The only prescription is more harm. More harm. It's got a fever. Guardians of Victory. Now they're going to show up with cowbells now? Hey, man. Need more cowbell. I know you were saying, again, Chris, an overreaction Monday. They're the second best team in the AFC, and you're giving the tip of the cap respectfully to the Bills. I understand what you're doing. but first things first, the Bills look they've already wrapped up the AFC East and out of respect to everybody else in division, because it's loaded in the AFC West, you can't say that but the Chargers can take a very firm early season grip on their division, if they can beat the Broncos at home on Sunday and they are playing lights out and Justin Herbert is playing like an MVP quarterback, he is unlocked and their weapons around him are so much better and now they're able to lose an all-world all-pro left tackle where they make the most rich player at the position in the nfl and tell joe you go there and herbert is unmarked because of alt's protection unreal the rich eisen show podcast Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.

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NFL on FOX analyst/3-time Super Bowl champion Mark Schlereth and Rich discuss Baker Mayfield’s late game heroics to boost the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to a 2-0 start to the season, the 2-0 Chargers sitting atop the AFC West, the Kansas City Chiefs 0-2 start, the future of the Tush Push in the NFL, what to expect from the Commanders vs Raiders in Week 3, and Daniel Jones leading the Indianapolis Colts to a surprising 2-0 start.

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