Hour 2: Overreaction Tuesday, Jets’ “Disaster,” plus NFL on FOX Analyst Mark Schlereth

23:54Rich Eisen:And they both started 0-4, Gase and Holtz. No Jet coach has ever started 0-5. Oh. And last night, you know, the Jets get a great first drive, march right down the field. Braylon Allen, their young stud, running back alongside Breeze Hall. I think, is Allen old enough to drink now or vote? I don't know. I think he is finally. He goes in for the score and fumbles. The Jets now have the worst turnover margin in the NFL at minus seven. they had I think I wrote it down here a billion pre-snap penalties tons of mistakes just absolute tons of mistakes won't you hit Brees Hall first because this is the quote of the century I mean it kind of sums it up and you hear what Brees Hall had to say after this loss where the Jets had a chance to win despite all of the mistakes at the very end and obviously couldn't get it done to fall to 0-4 for the first time since 2020.

25:05Rich Eisen:Let's just put it this way. Brees kind of sticks the landing on the soundbite. We're doing everything we can to pretty much lose the game right now, so it's literally just a matter of us not making dumb mistakes. When we have 11, 12 penalties a day, you ain't ever going to win a game, and we still almost won the game. So, like, been dealing with it for like four years. It was frustrating, bro, but it is what it is. You just got to come back and keep getting better. It's just a tale of, you know, three out of our four losses. You know, teams will shoot ourselves in the foot, then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head.

25:36Rich Eisen:I mean, that pretty much sums it up. Some shooters in the foot, we do that, but then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head. Because, you know, 0-4 is basically a kill shot. Aaron Glenn had this to say after the game. Very disappointing. Very disappointing. And there's no way you can win any game with 13 penalties and three turnovers. It just can't happen. But what we have to do is go back to work. That's the only way that we can fix it, really, take a look at these penalties, take a look at these turnovers and make sure we understand that we have to understand before you can win games you have to learn how not to lose games and we have to do a better job in that case um and we will we will and again the only way to do that is go back to work but listen i'm not losing hope on our guys at all you know and i'm telling you now we just got to go back to work that's all we can do that's all we can do listen um i don't blame him for taking that approach there are some guys to to lean on in there guy Garrett Wilson is so good he's so good that the touchdown that he had called back because they said he pushed off and then the touchdown that stood very few wide receivers can can do this sort of thing and he's got nine straight games now with 50 more receiving yards with the quarterbacks that he's had impressive you know two already this year.

27:08Rich Eisen:Last year, as we know, he had Rodgers and he also had a ton of moving parts on the coaching staff. The nine straight games at 50 more receiving yards, there's only one receiver with more of a longer active such streak. His name is Puka Nakua. That's how good this guy is. There's other players that are good. It's just collectively not working right now because others are green and others are, I don't know, not healthy or not focused i don't know what it is other than the fact it looks terrible and aaron glenn saying as he's running off to the locker room after that half we're down just seven and you know we get the ball first so we're going to fix some things in in uh and in the locker room and then we're going to come out and we're going to play better and then isaiah williams takes the opening kickoff and fumbles it the second half so it's very simple and I'm wondering again you know which Jets team I'm going to see in London am I going to see one coming off of a win against the Cowboys which would be big and prevent Aaron Glenn from strolling into the pre-broadcast meeting we're going to have with the Jets in London as an first ever 0-5 head coach in the history of the New York Jets, which is something he does not deserve?

28:37Rich Eisen:Or will they be one and four and feeling a little bit better about themselves? I don't know, but it's a very simple question that will be germane regardless if it's 0 and 5 or 1 and 4. If you're on the Jets roster, you have to look yourselves in the mirror and say to yourself, do I want to play for the Jets in Aaron Glenn in New York, or do I not? It really is just that simple. do you like living in the New York, New Jersey metropolitan area playing professional football for a guy like Aaron Glenn, or do you not? Because if you do not really want to commit to that for whatever your reason, speak now and sit your behind on the bench, or you're going to get cut.

29:26Rich Eisen:It's just that simple. The coaching staff appears to know exactly what it is doing. And again, I know Jet fans, some of you might be sitting there thinking, we have taken a coordinator from a defensive side of the ball of a winning organization before. And we trusted in that guy. And he's now back being a defensive coordinator. Throwing down with Liam Cohen verbally. We've been down this road before. But Aaron Glenn is a Jet from professional birth. and Parcells drafted him and we saw what he did in Detroit so you you got to sit there and wonder it's just like do I want to let this guy down or do I want to lift him up do I trust what he is selling because I'll sell it to everyone else in the locker room and if that requires more focus pre-snap during the during the week or whatever then you got to do it but other than that you got to make your decision do you want to play for this guy or not because i'm imagining they're not gonna fire this guy even if you draw falls to oh and six coming out of london which is entirely a possibility right now which would be highly unfortunate guy doesn't deserve it i think he's better than what we're seeing and can coach you want to play for the jets in new york for aaron glenn new jersey or not simple question don't know the answer to it 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program.

31:00It's Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday.

31:04Rich Eisen:You know what we're going to do here? I'm going to take a phone call and we're going to take a break. Then we'll get a little bit more runway to use the jet phrase. I just kind of Omaha'd it. I kind of Omaha'd it right here on the program. I'll bite on this one. Nate in Denver, you're here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Nate? Hey, Rich. Always a pleasure. How are you? What's going on, sir? All right, real quick. two things. One, have you ever noticed that every NFL head coach has deleted the Weather Channel app from their phone? Last night, 87 degrees, South Florida, Mike McDaniels, hoodie and sweat pants.

31:37Rich Eisen:I'm just saying. That's number one. But Nate, they were... Okay, go ahead. Keep going. I'll take it one at a time. What's your two? Number two, listen, I hate to sound like Brockman here, but every game, the more snaps Micah Parsons plays, the worst the Packers defense gets. Oh, wow. Nate. Come on. Is that an overreaction Monday subject matter? You just wait till. Are you serious? Just wait till after the break. Okay. Okay. So we'll put a pin in that and I won't respond to it here. I'll respond to it on overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. Please just. Nate, you're going to have to, you're going to have to stay for that one.

32:14Rich Eisen:And the other thing too is Mike McDaniel was wearing capri pants. So his, his calves were breathing. Yeah. which I think means that he's definitely looked at the weather channel. Thanks for the call. Wait, TJ, I missed it. What did he have for shoes last night? You know, usually he has serious drip. I didn't even pay attention. All right. Derek in Missouri. Let's take one of our longtime listeners. What's up, Derek? Hey, Rick, how are you doing? What's going on? Oh, well, it's victory Monday on a Tuesday. Well, it was, I'd say, I don't know if it was really much of a statement win last night, but it was a move in for progress type of win last night, despite what we had the last two weeks.

33:00It was nice to get a 100-run rushing game from Dobbins, our first one since the time of the dinosaurs, it seemed like. But nice to see RJ Harvey get that first touchdown. And now things look promising much better compared to the last two weeks. Hopefully we can keep it up. But we got, as you say, in the sports talk business, We got a tall order to come up against Philadelphia. And before last night's game, we were five-and-a-half point underdogs. And after the win last night, now we're three-and-a-half. So maybe we have a shot.

33:30Rich Eisen:Well, again, thanks, Derek. Appreciate the call. You should feel good about your Broncos. Again, two and two. And the division is being led by somebody that you lost on the road to at the last second. So you're going to feel good when they're coming back into your house. and will they have Khalil Mack back then? I don't know. The Chargers, let me get this actually spot on here. It's the final game of the year for them. So Khalil Mack could be back. Joe Alt might have just a high ankle sprain as opposed to anything that ends his season. Listen, bottom line is you look at the rest of the conference, you have to be concerned if you face the Bills again in Buffalo.

34:15Rich Eisen:certainly if that's the final run that you're going to have at high mark you're probably going to have to face them in the division around this time you're not going to see buffalo in a wild card round uh buffalo looks like they're going to steam their way to maybe the top seed in the in the uh conference and um so if it's a wild card or the division you got to feel good about it the question is what happens in october i mean october pardon me i'm looking at playoff baseball at the Same time, what happens in January? Because you've gotten postseason experience the previous year. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the program.

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37:37Rich Eisen:And you can get the full-on, full-on version of this wherever you get your podcast or our YouTube channel. Please do. What are you still thinking about Sunday night, TJ? The tie. I still can't get over that we do ties and professional sports and the amount of money that's going on with this thing. And I know Kevin Durant has my back on this, so I'm going to throw it out there. The NFL should adopt the college overtime rules. It's way more fun. It's way more exciting. And we get a guaranteed winner. And it removes special teams from the game. We've already done that by giving a team the possession.

38:09Rich Eisen:Ask the Dallas Cowboys if they want special teams removed from the ability to win a football game in overtime. How about you, TJ? Do you like saying your kicker doesn't have to have anything to do with it? That would mean that Brandon Aubrey would have no say? That's correct. No, I don't like that at all. Exactly. We're eliminating the tie. We're eliminating the tie. But you're also eliminating a phase of the game. That's why I don't like college football's overtime. We've already eliminated the phase by having each team get a possession. I saw some of the comments because guess what? Guess what?

38:36Rich Eisen:I sometimes do read the comments. I let it roll off my back amongst other people, which is why I can read them. And I saw my opinion on just adding five more minutes onto the overtime rule. They're like, just adopt college. And then or have after a while field goal kickers just come out and kick field goals with no rush until one misses. You decide the World Cup that way. What's the difference? And that sucks, too. What can I tell you? There's going to be no perfect response to this other than the fact that the college football overtime rules removes kicking from the game. And Brandon Aubrey, you know what he's also becoming a weapon at right now?

39:16Rich Eisen:Not just a field goal. This dynamic kickoff. He is the king of bouncing it in the landing zone and making you catch it in the end zone. So you've got to start from the 20, which is a massive advantage. He's a weapon for us. He is indeed. And you're removing Brandon Aubrey from the game pretty much with this stuff. I call this an overreaction. I know I might be in the minority. Larry David has my back too. He hates kickers. Larry David hates kickers. That's correct. He hates kickers. He has my back. Okay. It finally happened on Sunday in Las Vegas. Guys, I know we were all excited and waiting for it.

39:47Ashton Gentry had the breakout we were waiting for. Finally.

39:53Rich Eisen:He's going to finish in the top five in rushing yards this year. amongst rookies or amongst amongst the whole kit and caboodle he doubled his output on the season in one game last year fifth in the league and rushing was jameer gibbs at 1412 yards ashen genti is going to do that again how many yards does he have right now total he's got what two 280 okay um so he only needs his 1200 more rushing yards I'll just say this. Great job. Want to see more of it. Certainly since it wins me one of my fantasy league contests. 282. I'll just call it an overreaction. Let me see more, man. The thing that I was pleased to see is he was out there on third down for him.

40:38More importantly, he went back to the Michael Myers stance. Anyone notice that? First three games, this Chip Kelly hunched over, hands on the knees. Good for them. They're just like, you do you, man. One game, Michael Myers, boom, he's back.

40:50Rich Eisen:Okay. Whatever works. you're one in three let's keep it going to it let's see what let's see what happens for uh they gotta go to indy this they gotta go to indianapolis just don't turn it over that'd be helpful it's good advice what else you got chris here's the thing maca maca jerry jones won the michael parsons trade like i think we need to be honest about this i think we need to have a real conversation like i i make fun of jerry jones for being old and not knowing what he's doing for like the last 30 years i think he nailed this one He won this trade.

41:26Rich Eisen:This is the very definition of overreaction right now. The first time Micah Parsons had to, he had an opportunity to shove it up Jerry's you-know-where, and he did not. Well, he didn't make that tackle on deck. That would have scored a touchdown to one game. Yeah, where was he the other 50, 60-plus minutes of that game? I'll tell you what. Throwing up zeros. I'll give it up to not just the offensive line, but Brian Schottenheimer for running away from him and bootlegging away from him. There was one time where they booted into him, and I think Collinsworth called it out going, you know, how about we don't bootleg right into Micah Parsons anymore?

42:00Rich Eisen:Yeah, right. Jerry Jones said he can't stop the run. I didn't see him really do anything in that game except in overtime. Dude, let's just pump the brakes on making a draft picks. This is a hot take, one that I could see is already forming, one that I could see is not a bit for you. and i also think it's too soon but to the let's let's put it this way i'll give you this the what is his major malfunction he's totally lost it this is totally crazy i don't i can't believe the cowboys did this sort of thing um reaction is now subsiding a bit and there's now more room for this lane to widen but i wouldn't drive on it just yet what else you got over there Chris.

42:47Watching the Bengals play last night. One thing was abundantly clear and obvious. We will not be seeing Joe Burrow play football until 2026.

42:58Rich Eisen:I disagree with that. You're going to die on this hill, aren't you? I'm going to keep on going. It's too early, Chris. They couldn't block you. They couldn't block anyone. It's not too early. Tomorrow is October. It's too early. They've already gotten him hurt, what, three or four times in his career. He's not coming back this season. They're looking at 4-13 and the number one pick in the draft. It's too early. Better send those refunds. It's too early. I don't know how many times I could tell you how it's too early. You're crazy, man. It's too early. You're 2-2. Four of your next five are at home.

43:33Rich Eisen:You're only one game behind the Steelers who are one of those teams visiting your spot. They scored three points last night. Guess what happens? if they're close enough, Burrow is not going to just sit at home saying, I'm not playing behind that offensive line. He's going to push to get back there. No, he should absolutely be saying he's not going to play behind that line. I understand what you're saying he should be saying, but I'm calling this just again, it's too early. It's week five, man. They haven't even played a game in it yet. And they're not 0-4. They're 2-2. It feels like they're 0-4.

44:02Rich Eisen:I understand what you're saying. And as of right now, we'll talk about it more at the top of the next hour. The Baltimore Sun is reporting that Lamar is out for two to three weeks. So there's that. The division isn't even over. Forget about the season. Let me tell you something. If I could jump in. Because of what you just said. The Pittsburgh Steelers. No, I mean. Have a chance. They sure do. They better go get. Fortify their squad. I mean, it's wide open for them. I agree with you there. I apologize for winning. What else, Chris? No doubt. I hear you. You mentioned that there's a report that.

44:37Rich Eisen:That's not an overreaction. The Steelers, man. That is not one. Yours is less of an overreaction than what Chris just said. What's a reaction I made yesterday on the flagship podcast? You mentioned that the report out there that Lamar could be out. At least this week, maybe two to three weeks. Well, they have a bye in three weeks. So the next two games. We've got injuries. Home for Houston and home for the Rams. Got injuries on the defensive line. Got injuries in the secondary. And I just saw a team, you know, shut out the Titans. I think the Texans are making the playoffs. I don't think it's out of the realm.

45:15Rich Eisen:But just one game where they put it together against the 0-4, one of the two 0-4 teams in the league, or three. Two in their conference. Just shooting the ball around. Woody Marks looks like a star in the making there in their backfield. And all the Ravens are going to hear this week is that they're finished. And John Harbaugh is going to whip whip them up let's see what they do they should win this game in baltimore if it's cooper rush who john harbaugh's seat might be simmering that's ridiculous that is absurd boy you're on fire right now check his temperature mike playoff baseball ready to talk to make the playoffs entirely possible but right now to declare it so um what's the point to declare it so i think that's an overreaction as well they've looked they they've looked um terrible in the first three weeks but woody marks is a is a nice bright light right now and if they can get the running game going uh and stroud getting more balanced and he gets more protection and he could be as efficient as he was with the football as he was against the team that was first overall in the clock i mean the texans are taking on the baltimore ravens next and then they have a bye they're at seattle on a monday night san francisco denver jacksonville i mean they'll have a chance to prove that they that you're right um but at this point in time not so much i'll just call that an overreaction lame your overreaction monday on a tuesday i know you got one more i do have one okay but you know we're up against i know we're up against it for the radio audience um and um so we'll keep it going on the uh disney plus espn app side of things and for those on the radio guess what you can just go to our youtube channel to see this entire segment or watch the show back on disney plus once again you can get the overreaction monday podcast every single monday because chris and i recorded before the show and listen to it throughout the week the rich eisen Show, the podcast.

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