Hour 2: ‘Overreaction Tuesday,’ Justin Herbert Engaged, plus Hall of Fame RB Terrell Davis

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1:27Rich Eisen:Did you have any sense at all Dusty May might be on a radar screen of an NBA team? I thought he was going to come back. We were going to run it back and try to win another national championship. The Rich Eisen Show. Earlier on the show, ESPN investigative reporter Tisha Thompson. Coming up, Pro Football Hall of Famer Terrell Davis. From Super Troopers 3, Jay Chandra Sekar and Kevin Heffernan. And now, it's Rich Eisen. All right, everybody. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show, hour number two. Terrell Davis is about to join us, pro football Hall of Famer, long-time friend. So we begin hour number two with breaking news from the Los Angeles Chargers right across the street.

2:15Rich Eisen:You got this DJ Mikey Diaz and Dee's nuts, a little breaking news. Here it comes. And my eyes see breaking news. And listen, we all know Josh Allen married a very highly successful actress. Yeah.

2:37The Hall of Fame tight end, future Hall of Fame tight end, Travis Kelsey, married a very famous English teacher.

2:45Rich Eisen:Correct? Russell Wilson. Well, now three's a charm. No doubt. Justin Herbert, pop the question to Madison Beer. That's her Instagram account there, huh? She's very nice photographs. Very good. I think that was a collab. I mean, I hope they collab. Of course they collab. All right. More engagements and playoff wins. Yeah. Oh, Brock. You know what? Yesterday at the Michigan Champion Circle event, somebody came up to me. said he watches the show every day and he said you know i was with you i thought chris would be nicer after getting married but you're you're you're angrier i'm not no i'm not i'm not dude you're like lebron's not going to be a factor we're seeing this i mean you see that the the chargers uh tweeted out as well beautiful photographs ones that madison did not put on her Instagram.

3:48Rich Eisen:I'm much happy. And, you know, you're now saying there's more engagements than playoff wins for him. And that's just a factual statement. But that would be factual for anybody. But this is his personal life. This is a lovely moment for him. I'm excited for him. I love love. I'm glad that he has found love. It doesn't sound like it. What do you mean? Now it doesn't sound like you really feel that. That wasn't sincere. You just tried that path, right? You should be happy for them. I am happy. Or maybe this was the missing ingredient. Maybe just add beer. How many people in life? Whoa. How many men in life are like, you know what?

4:32Rich Eisen:I should just let's have a beer. That's about 50-50 for the beer working. Like sometimes the beer is good and most times it's not. It depends, you know. Can we just wish a Mazel Tov to our neighbor across the street? He's our neighbor on top of it. All right. You made your point. I've got a cousin. Half empty. I've got a cousin who's got beer and it didn't do well for him. So I'm happy, you know, for him. Xander's over the moon right now. I'm waiting for the text from him saying, are you a mom going to get invited to another wedding? Not after this conversation. Brockman just ruined it for you.

5:07Rich Eisen:And the wedding he means is yours. By the way, I saw Sarah made a bit out of that. Of course she did. Everything's a bit. Our whole life is a bit. She talks bad about himself. Congratulations, Justin Herbert and Madison Beer. Maybe at the end of the season we'll say that too. There you go. See? I'm with Brockman on this one. Again. What? This guy thinks you are angrier. And that's somebody separate. It's a consumer of the program. Whoever that is, I'm happier. Okay, very good. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm always happy to see this man's face. He's a pro football Hall of Famer. He's Terrell Davis. Look at you, TD.

5:41Rich Eisen:TD. Look at you. What's up, Rich? How you doing, man? Since when do you wear glasses? uh since i i've got i've gotten older that's what that's what happened come on i can't see so i have readers man i can't see you do hold on a minute let me let me look at us see there you go look at two handsome bespectacled bald men look at us are you still rich are you fully bald what's going on up there man why don't you just go ahead and take it all off oh what do you mean take it all off like just take it off like you mean the sides and everything yeah yeah td you know you You know, Susie, that's a no-go.

6:15Rich Eisen:That's a no-fly zone. You know my wife. Come on now. That's just not going to happen. How are you doing? How are you? Life's good. Life's good. Raising my, we have three kids, man. How old are they now? Yeah, 15. Jackson's 15. So boy, boy, boy, 13. Boy, Miles. My daughter, Dylan, she's 11. Okay. We're right behind you. 17, 15, the two boys. And 12, almost 13, is the daughter. is your girl dad wrapped up TD? Oh man. She got me. It's a wrap right? It's a wrap. Not only the youngest but she's the only girl yeah. Okay. She got me. Right. You open up the defense like the Packers to just let her get whatever she wants.

6:59Rich Eisen:Right? Just like dad. Just like that. Yeah. Just like that. That's great. Look at me. I'm just making references. No resistance. Just come on in. Were you surprised they let you score? Were you surprised they let you score in the Super Bowl? I did because I didn't even think about it. They told me when we went to the sideline, the defense came over and said, Neil Smith came over and said, man, they let you guys score. And I was a little confused at the time. Like, why would they do that, number one? But then, you know, obviously seeing how the game unfolded, okay, you let us score, you keep some time on the clock, you got a chance to go back and, you know, try to tie the game up.

7:37So, yeah, I mean, it made sense. But at the moment, I didn't think they would try to let us score. But they did. So we appreciate it. Thank you. Pardon me for asking.

7:46Rich Eisen:I don't have the numbers in front of me. Was that your only Super Bowl score of your career? Or do you have other ones? No, I scored twice. That was the third one. So I scored twice in that game. That's right. That's right. That was a three touchdown game, Rich. Okay. That was a good one. I'm sorry. Were you the MVP of that game, Terrell Davis? Were you the MVP? You know what? Yeah, ironically, I was. Look at you. See, that one I did know. I walked myself into that one. All right. It's good to see you. Tell me the folks that have brought you to meet here today because, again, the malady, if you will, that you are here to let everyone know about and raise awareness for, I don't know if I'm going to pronounce it correctly, but I'll try it.

8:30Rich Eisen:It's Tardive Dyskinesia. Is that it? Yeah, great job. It's Tardive. Tardive. Okay. Tardive Dyskinesia. And, yeah, I'm here, man. I'm partnering with Teva Pharmaceuticals to raise awareness. And it's called The Other TD. So we came to raise awareness for The Other TD, not football touchdowns, but it's tardive dyskinesia. And what it is, man, TD is a chronic movement disorder and is characterized by repetitive and uncontrollable movements. And it's caused by taking certain prescription mental health medications, such as an antidepressant or an antipsychotic. and um you know it's some of the symptoms you would see is like uh this movement in your face your hands your feet your torso and it could appear to be shaking or trembling and uh it really does affect a person's ability to just eat to walk and talk and so uh we just want to raise awareness if you or anybody you know out there are experiencing those symptoms please go to the other td.com or talk to your health care provider yeah obviously you got to diagnose it first and then figure out what to do from there and uh so uh the other td.com to learn more on that um how's it going to work with sean payton not calling the plays td how's that i think bro we're all curious about it you know i think sean's been calling plays for forever right and now you have davis webb who uh from all accounts man he gets he gets praised a lot a lot of people say he's a brilliant mind and there was a reason why sean didn't let him go into bringing him back and and then offered him to you know to call a play so we'll see how that works out rich um i think it you know maybe you know and sean has admitted to this last year where he says that it's difficult now when he calls plays because he thinks about what can go wrong more than what is really happening with the play you know so that that's kind of a sign where i think he's recognizing maybe it is time for somebody else to call the plays and give me where he's got a different perspective where he can have a different role, maybe come in there from time to time and then maybe he'll call an audible on some plays or something like that.

10:41But standing back and letting Davis Webb call plays, I think is probably a good thing for the Broncos. And it sounds like that Bo Nix seems to be pretty happy with Davis Webb and they seem like they have a great relationship. And that's really how things really take off is when you have two, the quarterback and coordinator or uh who are collaborating on the plays it tends to work out a lot a lot better

11:05Rich Eisen:that way well i mean for me um out of all the accomplishments of sean payton's career and you know he's always been kind enough to come on the show and i will tell him this when he's here is that if he's able to take away the control freakishness of call and plays and literally let somebody else do it with the occasional coming over the top yeah um that would be one of the biggest accomplishments of his entire career yeah you told him that no i said i plan on telling him that i plan on telling him that i plan on that for sure no i don't think i'm telling any tales out of school here you know what i mean like for him like what's he how's he gonna decades he's had the the two hands on the wheel you know yes yes but there's a transition and there's uh there's everything evolves and there's growing and you get to a point where you can't do it anymore you know you can't the game is not the game will never pass him by but his own admission he talked about calling plays and not thinking and thinking more about the negatives and the positive and that might be a sign to just go ahead and you know let somebody else take this take the steering wheel and you just you know you play like my wife does she's she's a great uh passenger backseat driver she although i'm driving she's giving me all the you know the directions on when to turn and yes i'm going too fast i'm stopping too fast stuff like that maybe maybe that's sean pedro okay now you open the door here um would your wife be able to just say you know what i trust td to be able to signal properly and figure out where to go i'm just gonna stop i'm gonna stop giving directions i don't think so okay that's what that's i don't think so i know i know that's my point terrell davis here on the rich eisen show moving on before he gets in any more trouble um the best running back in the national football league entering 2026 is Terrell Davis.

13:04Rich Eisen:Who is it? It's interesting because you have your Kristen McCaffrey's, you still got your Derrick Henry's, you got Saquon Barkley, James Cook had a monster year last year. Man, you got Jonathan Taylor. I'll help you tap dance a little bit. You got Jonathan Taylor and then you got the two guys that are vying for first overall and fantasy drafts all across the country in Bijan and Jameer Gibbs now getting the ball as the bell cow. But now you have to answer. Now, the question you ask is going into this year. There's kind of two answers. If you're looking at best production back, that's different than the best back.

13:51Because sometimes the best back is not always the most productive back that goes into a season. For whatever reason.

13:57Rich Eisen:Are you going third down protection schemes on me now? Is that where you're going on right now? Because that is part of the role. I mean, Peyton Manning, as you know, if you didn't know that, you weren't getting on the field with him. You know what I mean? So give me each one of those, best back and most productive. You thought you'd get out of it by saying, oh, it's a little bit more nuanced, Rich. This is sports talk radio, TD. Come on now. I know. There's no nuance here. What are you talking about? I don't know. I don't know who's the best back. No, no, no. I'm not letting you out. No, no, no.

14:34Rich Eisen:This is not right. The best back in the NFL. I just gave him. You're Terrell Davis. You're like, I want... This guy's got to have the rock for me today. Derrick Henry's out there too. I'll say the best back and I'll include sort of his body of work. Please. It's still Derrick Henry. It is. Yeah. Why? because Derek has he's probably the few backs if any that you know they're going to run the ball you know he's getting the ball and it's pretty hard to stop and for whatever reason the last couple of years Baltimore just they just they haven't used them the way that I thought they would use them and this man is his you know like I said his resume his body of work what he did in high school what he did in college what he's doing in the pros the guy had almost he had a 2 ,000 yard season, almost eclipsed it twice with a 1900 yard season.

15:30Doesn't, doesn't appear to be slowing down in my opinion. I still liked his style of running. I liked the downhill, you know, big back. He's big, but he's got, got a really, really good top end speed. It's hard to see Derrick Henry. I've never seen him get caught from behind. So I'll go with Derrick and he's been consistent, man. So I'll go with Derrick Henry.

15:50Rich Eisen:First ballot, right? TD. Oh yeah. In your room one day, whenever it's, it's time for him. First ballot, right? Yep, yep, yep. No question about it. I'm with you. I'm with you. So then what will be the challenge for Jameer Gibbs to now get the ball more? Based on the fact, I mean, he's one of the best home run hitters we've seen in recent years at the position. Now he's RB1. He's RB1. He doesn't have the Batman and Robin connection there. The challenge is really being the guy every down. When you're splitting carries And not only carries But touches I think for him he's got a chance to Kind of rest a little bit in between those And knowing you got somebody else Who can move the chain Make the situation better And then you got that competitive That friendly competitiveness that he had You know that was Pretty awesome to see But now you're the man It's It's different It is.

16:50It's just different now that you're the every down guy. You might get, you know, 20 touches a game, but everything is on you. You don't have that toward a yin and yang sort of combination there. But I think, you know, but I also think that he's he seems like he's a young man that can handle that. He's he's got that Marshall Faulkner, man. I love the way Jameer runs. He's got that. He's a light. He's maybe he's more Chris Johnson, but he's got that kind of flair to him. I like the way he runs.

17:17Rich Eisen:Terrell Davis here on the Rich Eisen Show. Before I let you go, you want to take a crack at what it looks like if Aaron Donald says, yes, I do want to play again, and there's Miles Garrett on this Rams team. I thought he said that. So it's not official. It is not official yet. He's going through a process, TD. But to me, it's like if you go through a process and you look like that, and again, I just take his physical readiness for granted, which I know is, you know, easy for me to say, sitting on my ass here in this part of Los Angeles. But it does appear to be real, for real. Yeah. And he's been out.

18:01He was out one year or two years? No, it's three. Three years? Yeah. Ooh, Rich, I don't know. I know Aaron Donald. I know he's always in the gym. I know he's always ready. But there's a different workout with you working out to prepare for football versus playing football. And he knows that. He recognizes that. But if we – so the question is if we get the same Aaron Donald that left three years ago and you got Miles Garrett, I don't know. You may have to pencil in the Rams in the Super Bowl.

18:34Rich Eisen:Yeah, 2023 was his last year. So he's missed two years and it will have been three coming up, you know, when he gets out there. Honestly. Right. I mean, Seahawks fans are get pissed when they hear that, though. I know. And they should. They should. That's that's that. How would you take that if you're the defending Super Bowl champs? And it's like, oh, yeah, the team that you beat in the in the AFC championship game is it would have been for you. They just added somebody spectacular and I'm getting a Hall of Famer in waiting back. you have no chance to repeat. You'd have been pissed. You know what?

19:10I think I would thank you for that. We need it. We need the motivation. You can't pay for that kind of motivation. So if I'm the Seahawks, I am I am thanking all that. The media, all the news outlets, all the pundits. Thank you for that fuel. Appreciate it. They don't they don't want to be praised for what? Right. Exactly. I hear. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to be brave. You don't want to be praised until it actually until you you're holding that Lombardi trophy until the confetti is coming down. That's when the praise comes in. Before that, you don't care. You know, you'll take that.

19:44Rich Eisen:All right, before I let you go, I've never asked you this, so I'm going to ask you this before I let you go here, TD. Your favorite Elway story where something happened, maybe it's the first time you saw it, or it was maybe in the biggest game, obviously, Super Bowl. In the huddle, something happens. He says something. Something was going down. and then he takes care of business for you and the team. You got one of those? See, that's that Joe Montana story that you're trying to get me to. What he talks about, I think it's John Candy in the stands. Well, I'm sure he, I don't know if LA ever noticed anybody like that in the stands, but just anything.

20:24Rich Eisen:He's just like, we're going to do this and then it happens. Was it the helicopter play? Anything like that? No, he didn't say anything before that. You didn't say anything before that? No. No, I don't have any. Anything on the sideline? Anything he told you during the week and then it happened? Nothing? He wasn't that kind of quarterback to tell you. No, I don't. See, you should have told me before I came over here. I could have probably thought about something, but I'm going to blank. All right. Well, here's the thing then. For the next time, I'm going to have you on before the season. Okay. Come up with.

21:01Rich Eisen:So you're saying think about that story. Yeah, you're not on a tour. You know what I mean? You're not on a tour. You're like speed dating right now. I'm sure you're on a Zoom tour right now, and I'm just part of it. You know what I mean? That is true. Okay. That is true. You're the best, TD. Love you, man. Best to your family. Okay. Yeah, likewise, Rich, man. I miss you, dude. I miss you, man. Miss our fun days at the NFL Network, man. Have we had a ball? I do. I do. And everyone's saying, like, you know. Is that too far worse? Oh, no, don't feed the animals. Don't feed the animals. Say hi, Mikey.

21:37Rich Eisen:TD, how you doing, brother? Where are you, man? There he is. That's my guy. Don't feed the animals, man. Good to see you, TD. You're the best. Likewise. Plug it real quick. You guys go to theothertd.com for more information. Please go visit theothertd.com. Certainly if you have the symptoms that present where you might have tardive dyskinesia. Yeah, there you go. Okay. That's my golf game. I'm better the second time around. There you go, Rich. It's Terrell Davis, everybody, right here in the Rich Heisman Show. Sure.

22:16Rich Eisen:844. I've got a driving story involving Suze. Oh. Uh-oh. We'll take a break. I think we should. We'll take a break. If TD's going to put it out there, I'll put it out there. uh oh this is funny 844-204-RICH is the uh never to doubt we also have overreaction Monday on a Tuesday and what's going on with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and um their quarterback and if you will the the quarterback of their uh their defense there's news of popping out of Tampa Florida and it's not great okay well when you run a small business you don't just do the job you're also the hiring manager, the payroll department, the benefits team, usually all before lunch.

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