Hour 2: ‘Overreaction Tuesday’ plus FOX Sports’ Mark Schlereth

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1:57Rich Eisen:all right hour number two of the rich eisen show is on the air great chat with alva breer in our our number one um coming up jeff perlman the author he's got a new book on the life and times of tupac shakur in hour number three it'll be a great chat we've got overreaction monday on a tuesday coming up shortly we just uh recorded the latest episode of overreaction monday as soon as i got back from london yesterday best episode we've had and it's not because of your tremendous hard work, Chris. It's because my bag came out first. I can't believe off an international flight. First time that ever happened, my bag came out first.

2:34Rich Eisen:Really? Yeah. And I was just, it was the wind beneath my wings. You know, walking into the studio here to record that episode. No contest wrestling. O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson talking wrestling with George Kittle. Got to check that out. That's available wherever you get your podcasts. Also on our youtube channel youtube.com slash rich eyes and show over a million million subscribers uh to all of that we greatly appreciate every last one of you um and uh we're here on disney plus the espn app everywhere and espn radio presented by progressive insurance back here on the rich eyes and show one of my favorites love listening to him call a game on fox fresh off of the panthers and the Jets getting ready for the Patriots and the Browns on Fox is three-time Super Bowl champ Mark Slareth.

3:22Rich Eisen:Good to see you, Mark. How are you, sir? I am doing great. Got to watch you the last two weeks from London as I was sitting in the stadium watching you call the game with Kurt. So always fun to get to hear you guys. Thank you. I appreciate that. I don't know what was more taxing, calling the Jets loss to the Broncos or are you having to watch it back to prepare for this game against the Carolina Panthers, Mark? What did the game look like watching it back? Yeah, it looked as bad as you think it looked. Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. I will say this, the Jets defensively, they're legitimate, man.

4:01They can play on the defensive side of the ball. They're really, really good. Unfortunately, offensively, they are, I'll just be kind and say there are work in progress. Here's one of the things I always say, Rich. Just find one thing that you can do well. I'm not asking just one thing. Just find one thing that you can do well and do that one thing and then build off of that. Find some ancillary things that you can build off that so you can become tangential in your offense, right? This one thing is the root of what we do. And then we've got a few branches here and there that we can be successful with.

4:39But as we speak, there is nothing the Jets offense does well and I mean nothing so um you got to go back to the

4:48Rich Eisen:drawing board on that one let's talk about the rest of the league at this point in time uh Mark Schlereth here on the Rich Eisen show you have been involved in some tremendous moments in the history of the Denver Broncos Mark um but watching that fourth quarter comeback on the New York Giants and what happened there in Denver in front of the Broncos faithful is something I've never seen before. And as a matter of fact, NFL teams had won 1 ,608 consecutive games on leading by 18 or more points with less than six minutes remaining in the fourth quarter as the Giants did. And now those teams are now 0 for their last one.

5:26Rich Eisen:What was that like for a multiple Super Bowl winner for the Denver Broncos to watch that game. It was incredible because as great as that fourth quarter was, it was equally that bad in the first three quarters. They were pathetic. I mean, they did nothing well from incomplete passes that were errant throws to lack of blocking on the perimeter, running bubble screens where tight ends and wide receivers are just basically saying, I choose not to block today. and like those things frustrate the heck out of me so consistent mistakes the first three plays of the game play number one for the broncos overthrow play number two for the broncos drop pass play number three for the broncos miss block at left tackle forces bow out of the out of the uh pocket and they end up going three and out and that's how the entirety of the first three quarters of the game went so to all of a sudden be able to execute for all of sudden to make the plays that you haven't made the entirety of the game and for you to hang in there and not just hang your hat and say hey man today wasn't our day we came back from london we were exhausted what whatever the excuse is whatever the reason is whatever you want to call it to be able to come back and win that football game and my flight was delayed so i was sitting in new york watching that game play out and you know i'm just surrounded by giant fans oh boy and and to watch that thing go down and to watch the utter disgust that they have while I was this little guy in the corner with this joyous look on my face.

7:02It was incredible, Rich. Why joyous?

7:05Rich Eisen:Because of the Broncos thing, right? Not the New York thing, right, Mark? Right. You know one thing about me. I'm a very, very gracious loser, but I'm an absolute when it comes to winning. I'm picking it up about Mark. You know that I was rubbing it in. I couldn't tell from that video you sent to Jets fans a few years ago on the old socials, putting your Super Bowl ring on your middle finger, Mark. I couldn't tell all that years ago. But really, that was just a joyous occasion for Broncos fans. That was, I've spoken to multiple Broncos fans since then who still can't believe it. And obviously, they're in the mix right now, brother.

7:50Rich Eisen:I mean, especially since one of their losses was to the 6-1 Colts, the clear best team right now in the AFC, right? Colts are? Or your favorites in the Kansas City Chiefs are now finally congealing, sir. What do you think here? I would probably go Kansas City at this point just because of the history they have, because of the quarterback they have. One thing about the Colts, though, and this is something that to me always resonates, in this fantasy football world that we live in, where it's all about wide receivers, all about tight ends, all about our quote-unquote skilled position players, the Indianapolis Colts just absolutely dominate the line of scrimmage, both offensively and defensively.

8:32And they're going to be in every game when they do that. I love – I think Shane Steichen is vastly underrated. I think he does a really good job of making things pretty simple for his quarterback. and they're a damn good football team in Indianapolis right now. And I'm telling you, they are – I go back to the Broncos game that they won on a – listen, it never comes down to one play, but the leverage call was ridiculous. Anyhow, but that's NFL officiating, so don't put yourself in that position on a 60-plus yard field goal. But the bottom line, they're a damn good football team. And it is, you know, for me to watch Daniel Jones all those years struggle in New York and really not play and just not play maybe up to the standard or not have the success that you were hoping that he would have to watch him come into a situation to go in and compete to win that job and then to be lights out over the course of the first seven games of the season.

9:32It's just an amazing story. We probably don't talk enough about, Rich, to watch it. And we've seen some reclamation projects, right? guys that just failed in other places, whether it's Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones. It's really cool to see these guys get a second opportunity, get coached up to figure it out and go out and have great success.

9:52Rich Eisen:I've got Mark Schlereth here on the Rich Eisen Show. And, you know, the Colts are going to be taking on the Chiefs later on in the season. That's going to be one to just make a note of. I'll just quickly make a note of it right now. It's week 12. So that's coming up in about a month. Mark Schlereth here on the Rich Eisen Show. And they're number one. The Colts are number one in the AFC. And you're calling the home day game for the number two overall team in the AFC right now, the New England Patriots. I've got a diehard Patriot fan in Chris Brockman in the studio. Chris, do you want to let Schlereth know when the duck boat parade is prior to this weekend's game?

10:32Rich Eisen:Yeah, yeah. See, Mark, here's the deal. All the workers are gathering up around Boston. They're changing out the spark plugs. They're replacing the oil. They're making sure everything's well lewd because the duck boats are back in about, let's see, it's October, like four months? No, no, October is this weekend. Isn't it this weekend? Well, we got to play the season first. I mean, it's only customary. Interesting, Mark. I mean, it's all working. They just went three straight on the road. They won all three of them. Every last one of them. I don't like your tone, Rich Eisen. Yeah, they probably ought to be undefeated.

11:05You look at their first three weeks of the season, I mean, they should have beat Pittsburgh at self-inflicted wounds. I mean, that's a 21-14 game. They had ample opportunity. Red zone turnovers. They had five different turnovers. They were minus four and turnover differential. The first three weeks of the season, they were like 30th in penalties. So they had taken a bunch of penalties, made a bunch of mistakes, easily could have won those two games. And I'm telling you, they have played exceptional football under Mike Vrabel. And Mike Vrabel is just one of those dudes, man, that you watch him after they get a win.

11:46He's out there in the tunnel, you know, dapping up all his guys, hugging and loving on all his guys. He's a demanding dude, right? He demands greatness in practice. He's a grinder that way. But, man, they are playing hard for him. They've got his respect. And that guy right there, Drake May. He's awesome. I don't know that there's anybody playing any better than that dude right now. He has been lights out, and it's a really fun team to watch, which I think over the last two years they went 4-13, 4-13, and now they're sitting at, what, 5-2 in first place in their division and having a win over the Buffalo Bills.

12:24It's amazing what they've been able to do in New England.

12:27Rich Eisen:Well, we'll see what he does, May, in terms of a playoff run and making the playoffs, which I believe the Patriots are in line to do right now. And depending on how far he goes, you could put him up there if he goes as deep as Jaden Daniels did last year, the way that Jaden Daniels is having an injury-marred second season, that May is having the best first two years of that draft class in terms of Caleb, in terms of Penix, in terms of Bo Nix, who's been terrific. But as you pointed out at the beginning of this conversation, up and down with a lot of down and J.J. McCarthy we're still waiting on I mean May has been spectacular spectacular he certainly has you know it's it's really interesting too because there are those guys that over the course of their careers um have just proven to be unbelievable coordinators or you know or coaches in that regard and then get to have that opportunity to be a head coach and for whatever reason uh it doesn't go well and Josh McDaniels is in that kind in that realm.

13:27And it was really interesting. Last time I sat down with Josh McDaniels was a Carolina game and they, I mean, they waxed the floor with the Carolina Panthers and just talking to him about his year off, Rich. And like, all right, well, what'd you do after the Raiders fired you? You're off. And he's like, man, I got a notebook with 78 pages of notes. I went to the Kansas City Chiefs training camp. I went to the Houston Texans training camp. I went to, there was another one in there that he went to. And then he said, I went to Ohio state and I'm just seeing how people run their offense, how people run their team meetings, how people run their offseason.

14:00I just learned as much as I could possibly learn in my year off. And you go back to his year as a coordinator with Mac Jones and how well Mac Jones played, and then all of a sudden Mac Jones was lost in the desert, and now he's back with Kyle Shanahan playing really good football. It just matters who coaches you. It matters who's giving you the message and who's tutoring you in the game and allowing you to grow as a player and allowing you to understand the game at a more global level. And you can say what you want about his head coaching career, but, man, that guy's one hell of an offensive coordinator.

14:35Rich Eisen:A few minutes left here with Mark Schlereth on the Rich Eisen Show. Where does Dan Campbell rank in terms of guys that you would play for if you could get more snaps and play another season, Mark? Where is he ranked, Matt? He'd be number one. like he'd be right up there on the top like god you gotta love dan campbell and i will tell you this man he plays the role of meathead well like he he he's like that dude is smart he understands offense he understands what he's trying to do and i will just tell you walking into that facility before dan campbell was there to call a game that place was a morgue rich i mean it was legitimately a morgue.

15:17You walk into that facility now, and we always talk about culture, and culture is one of those things that everybody wants, but it's really hard to develop. Man, you walk into the Detroit Lions now. Everybody who works there, from the people who greet you at the gate when you come in, to the people in the front greeting room, to the coaches and the cafeteria staff, and all the people in there everybody's an essential employee and they all are treated that way and you walk into that facility man it can be the dead of winter man that place is a ray of sunshine and it's because of the culture that dan campbell has created in detroit it's amazing guys want to play hard for them and they do you see it all the time with uh just the excitement the energy that team

16:04Rich Eisen:plays with well i know that's what jet fans are hanging their hats on to bring this whole thing full circle, Mark, is Aaron Glenn was on that staff that went 0-10-1 to start and then 1-6 to start the next season. And I'm sure, you know, the morgue analogy could be appropriate for what you just witnessed with the Jets right now at 0-7, right? I mean, like that's it. Yeah, but I felt like, I did feel like going into the Jets facility, man, there's an energy in that facility. And Aaron Glenn is a good dude, man. He knows football And I think they feel pretty confident. I think the players that I talked to, and I talked to a handful of them both on Sunday and both on Friday when I was in that facility, they love it, man.

16:48And so, you know, do they have to fix the offense? Yeah, they've got to fix the offense. They've got to figure out what that offense is. They're still trying to, you know, mess around with that. And I don't think they've solved their quarterback conundrum yet in New York. But those guys love playing for them. Quentin Williams just raved about playing for Aaron Glenn. So I think they're on the right track. It just takes time. And one thing I know about kind of a turnover, and this happened in Denver over the last couple of years, talking to Sean Payton, you can't turn over the whole roster in one year.

17:18It takes you a while to wean out the guys that you don't want, the guys that aren't necessarily your guys. You can't just do it in one offseason. It takes a little bit of time. So it is one of those things. I know nobody wants to be patient. everybody wants an instant cup of coffee it just doesn't work that way all right last one for you

17:36Rich Eisen:three five and two teams in the west now that the rams won in london and seattle wrapped up week seven by taking care of a texans team coming off of by niners at five and two you could put your mark slareth stinking podcast stinking truth podcast marker uh on only one of them what do you what do you put the marker on mark i probably put it on the rams um and and the rams obviously they They have Matthew Stafford, and they've got some receivers in Pukunikua injured last week. And then the game you did in London, they just went to the tight ends. They said, OK, well, we don't have receivers this week.

18:12OK, that's all right. We'll just focus on our tight ends, and we'll win that way. And I love that about Sean McVay. They've got the quarterback. The other thing they have, they quietly, when they had a couple of down seasons or a down season, they quietly went and revamped their both lines of scrimmage. First is at times unblockable. That guy is a freak show, and they can run the ball. They can control the line of scrimmage. With that quarterback and the receivers they have, if I was a gambling man and had to put an amount of money that mattered to me, I would put it on the Rams.

18:43Rich Eisen:Yeah, four tight ends, caught passes for the Rams, three touchdowns for Devontae Adams, and you mentioned Verse. It's Byron Young who's got nine sacks, tied with Brian Burns for the most in the NFL. He's a monster on the other side of Verse, and Fisk was doing his usual things. Landman is leading the team in tackles, the back end of the defense with Quinton Lake and all of them. They are balling out, man. They certainly are. Thanks for the time right here. I know you said you're in Tampa for your granddaughter. My oldest granddaughter has a play today at her. She attends a Christian school, so we've got a play.

19:23My wife and I came down to support her and to watch the play tonight.

19:28Rich Eisen:What's the play? Fiddler on the Roof? Wait a minute. Hold on a second. No. What's the play in all seriousness? What is it? Okay. Hey, what's the play that Quinn's doing? I have no idea. That's a wife question. That's like asking me. He sounds like Kurt. He sounds like Kurt. Yeah. Kurt. That's like you started going, hey, so-and-so had a baby. How long was it? How much did it weigh? how am i supposed to know that i wouldn't ask that kind of question kurt warner came in in london last week he did an appearance and he's like i gotta run because i'm meeting brenda at the theater and i'm like what do you see he goes i don't know i don't know that's 100 me you told me to be somewhere i'll be there either way i'm sure she will be the star of the show and uh thank you grandfather of the year Mark Schlereth here on the Rich Eisen Show the Stinkin' Truth Podcast with Mark get it wherever you get your podcasts have a great broadcast always love listening to you Ben thank you brother I appreciate you one of our favorites Mark Schlereth back here on the Rich Eisen Show I am picking up that thing about Mark what he said about himself when they win as we've been doing this I know this Mark will stick it in and you know that was so funny so funny Hey, man, he's going to try and call a fifth straight win for the New England Patriots.

20:54Rich Eisen:Good luck, Tram. Let's just keep him on the broadcast, baby. They spanked Carolina, putting 42 on them after they shut out their previous opponent. And then they won three in a row on the road, including that started off in Buffalo on a Sunday night. They're on fire. ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. Progressive Insurance offers 24-7 protection when you bundle home, auto, and motorcycle. Learn more at Progressive.com. Come back. Your phone calls overreaction Monday on a Tuesday.

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23:40Rich Eisen:Let's see. one of our favorites just dropped off. Let's go. Oh, he's calling on our guest line. Gus Ramsey. What's up, Gus? How you doing, brother? Rich, you know, when you go see a movie or a play and people have told you it's going to be great, you pretty much know what you're getting when you go. But when you go to a sporting event, it's a big roll of dice. You never know what you're going to get. If you hop on a plane and fly from Orlando to Denver, Colorado, So it's a pretty big gamble that you're going to see something great. I finally saw something great. Your Denver Broncos fandom get finally paid off in person, is what you're saying this past weekend.