In short
The Rich Eisen Show (Hour 2) focuses mainly on the Los Angeles Rams selecting quarterback Ty Simpson with the 13th overall pick at the NFL Draft, and what it means for Matthew Stafford’s timeline. Hosts debate whether the pick is a smart “insurance/clock-starting” move or a confusing use of draft capital.
Key claims
Simpson is viewed as a McVay/Les Snead fit—able to run the offense and assimilate their system quickly (cited as 15 Alabama starts). A stat is highlighted: Simpson’s 2019 interception percentage ranked fourth-lowest among quarterbacks since 2015 (behind Dak, Caleb Williams, and Bo Nix). Notable example: the last time a reigning MVP QB’s team drafted a QB in the first round was the 1967 Packers (Don Horn).
Guest
Phil Dunster, actor known for HBO’s Rooster (plays Archie) and Ted Lasso (Jamie Tart). Background: Dunster discusses filming at University of the Pacific, working with Bill Lawrence’s team, and parallels to Ted Lasso’s warmth/humor.
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Tap a time to open that second in VONFL Draft Highlights
1:38 to 2:15
Rich discusses the NFL Draft and the Rams' selection of Ty Simpson.
“Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”
Analysis of Ty Simpson's Selection
2:15 to 3:10
Analyzing the implications of Ty Simpson being drafted by the Rams.
“We're chopping it up throughout the first hour of this program with Daniel Jeremiah.”
Sean McVay's Reaction to the Draft
3:10 to 4:04
Discussion on Sean McVay's demeanor and thoughts on the draft pick.
“Without a doubt, the top story of the NFL draft, despite, let me do the math.”
Historical Context of Quarterback Selections
4:04 to 4:59
Exploring the rarity of drafting a quarterback with a reigning MVP.
Debating the Rams' Strategy
4:59 to 6:10
Rich delves into the strategy behind the Rams' draft decisions and implications.
“And everything I've heard since then, as also confirmed by other people's reporting, is these two are completely lockstep on the same page.”
Insight on Coaching and Development
6:10 to 7:18
Rich discusses the challenges of developing quarterbacks under McVay.
“not just offensively, but ability to assimilate, remember, regurgitate, and execute.”
Evaluating Ty Simpson's Future
7:18 to 8:23
Discussion on Ty Simpson's future prospects with the Rams and NFL career.
“The one thing that would never be doubted is, you know, we couldn't be in more lockstep in every decision that we make.”
Debating the Rams' Draft Pick
14:00 to 16:49
Discussion on the implications of the Rams' pick in the draft, comparing it to other teams' strategies.
“Trevor in San Diego, did I answer your question before I popped you on the air?”
Falcons vs. Rams: A Strategic Analysis
16:50 to 19:16
In-depth comparison of the drafting strategies of the Rams and Falcons.
“Yeah, this feels more to me like Green Bay taking love, which we all were kind of like, what?”
Phil Dunster Discusses 'Rooster'
22:22 to 25:31
Phil Dunster shares insights about his character and filming 'Rooster'.
“They very kindly let us film there because they are, I think it's quite a rarity in California.”
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Character Depth in Comedy
25:32 to 28:02
Exploration of character development and themes in 'Ted Lasso' and 'Rooster'.
“And what's funny is that the fun thing to do when you have these sort of debauched characters is looking for reasons why they might actually be good people.”
The Dual Lives of a Footballer
28:02 to 28:30
Exploration of balancing football and personal life, with a comparison to 'The Sopranos'.
AFC Wimbledon: A Footballing Phoenix
28:30 to 29:28
The history of AFC Wimbledon and its community-driven origins.
“That drama, that tension between those two spaces is really fun to do.”
Journey from Rugby to Football
29:28 to 30:28
Phil Dunster shares his transition from rugby to becoming a football fan.
“And so I then sort of came to football a little bit late.”
Behind the Scenes with Pep Guardiola
30:28 to 31:41
Phil discusses his experience working with Pep Guardiola on 'Ted Lasso'.
“And I was just sort of looking for a club.”
Choreography vs. Football Training
31:41 to 33:19
Phil compares acting training for football scenes to choreography.
“slaps, like really slaps them on the chest as a sort of, I think a sort of sign of sort of paternal love or whatever it is.”
Memorable Scenes in 'Ted Lasso'
33:19 to 34:11
Phil reflects on his favorite scenes and the emotional impact of the show.
“so that I would then go and play a five a side with my mates and we would get absolutely hammered and someone would come up to me afterwards and be like aren't you Jamie Tarr?”
The Stakes of 'Ted Lasso'
34:11 to 35:14
Discussion on the importance of the show's impact and message.
“Well, the scene where the believe sign rips and the whole side team squad thinks we're done, we're toast.”
Upcoming Changes in 'Ted Lasso'
35:14 to 36:08
Phil talks about new developments in the Ted Lasso series and his wife's role.
Comparing Comic Actors: Carell and Sudeikis
36:08 to 37:18
Phil shares thoughts on the similarities between Steve Carell and Jason Sudeikis.
NFL Contract Discussions
39:51 to 42:00
Rich and guests discuss the current state of NFL contracts and negotiations.
“He can't get traded unless he signs the tender.”
Fan Interaction and Insights on Team Dynamics
42:00 to 44:20
Listeners hear a fun exchange with a caller and insights into team dynamics.
“I got to meet Chris Brockman and TJ Jefferson in Pittsburgh over the weekend.”
Discussion on Jets' Rebuilding Strategy
44:20 to 47:25
A deep dive into the Jets' rebuilding strategy and fan expectations.
“That was a heck of a moment, too, because I told you, Chris, the amount of times I've been at that Permanente Brothers, my friend's a manager there, so to get recognized there of all places.”
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1:34Now, on with the show. Pittsburgh, make some noise! This is the Rich Eisen Show. The Los Angeles Rams select Ty Simpson. Okay, wow. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. The Rich Eisen Show. Earlier on the show, NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah. Coming up, actor Phil Dunster. NFL on Fox analyst Greg Olson. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
2:07Rich Eisen:Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. We're back from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Everybody, fun times at the NFL Draft. We're chopping it up throughout the first hour of this program with Daniel Jeremiah. The Overreaction Monday post-NFL Draft podcast is on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show for you to take in. Greg Olson of Fox Sports is going to join us in hour number three on that. We're going to hit the NBA playoffs in short order. Chris Brockman's baseball team fired their manager over the weekend after winning by 16 runs, which is fascinating. And if won two in a row since then, it's all good.
2:45Rich Eisen:And so long story short, there's still lots to talk about. And with you as well, 844-204-RICH, number to dial The actor Phil Dunster, who is on the hit HBO show that we talked about with John C. McGinley a couple weeks ago called Rooster. He also is famously in Ted Lasso as Jamie Tart. Yes. And so we're going to be having him come out in about 20 minutes time and chop it up with him. Let's go. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Without a doubt, the top story of the NFL draft, despite, let me do the math. There's 13 picks taken, 257 picks overall, despite, what, 244 picks after Ty Simpson. 244 picks happened after Ty Simpson.
3:38And we're still talking about Ty Simpson.
3:40Rich Eisen:and he's taken 13 overall by an LA Rams team that has the, that has the MVP quarterback of last year's campaign and Superbowl favorites right now, 38 years old window closing slowly, but surely he can bash that thing open for as long as he wants, depending on his play. but 13th overall you could get yourself as chris pointed out on the overreaction monday podcast uh ruben bain sitting there for your defensive line there's makai lemon for your wide receiver room just to name two and was ty simpson on anyone else's radar screen we will never know could have stuck there and picked somebody could even trade it down get some more picks to use and still get your guy at some point although one never knows at all i remember when jameer gibbs went off the board to the uh lions at 12 and i was like what what are you doing you could have had that guy later on then we find out half the half the uh nfl was upset that the lines beat them to the punch yeah well we're still gibbs we're still waiting for those stories about simpson well and you know the bottom line is we're gonna wait for a while we're gonna wait for a while and the conversation we had on friday when that happened i'll tell you what i didn't think the conversation thursday night into friday into friday night and into saturday would be about this pick happening over sean mcveigh's wishes based on the body language and his very clipped demeanor on Thursday night at the press conference with him and less afterward and how it was very uncharacteristic of Sean McVay not to be bouncing off the walls excited about something.
5:42Rich Eisen:Didn't think that was the case at all. And everything I've heard since then, as also confirmed by other people's reporting, is these two are completely lockstep on the same page. And that Ty Simpson is, in fact, a kid who not only can run the offense of McVay and Les Snead based on what they have seen in just 15 starts. But he also has a brain that is locked into the way McVay thinks, not just offensively, but ability to assimilate, remember, regurgitate, and execute. And they love him. The only thing is, is if you show them how much you love him, there's a guy sitting in malibu coming home from his girls flag football practice i don't know if you saw that video matthew's coaching his daughter's flag football he was doing that on draft day i don't know if it was on draft day but it's all kinds of adorable and you should seek it out okay good um coaching that he might be like what yeah what so they're walking a fine line of being excited for the future and starting a clock that I didn't know if the Rams, you know, needed to start ticking so publicly, even though it's ticking father time, as you know, gets everybody.
7:06Rich Eisen:Right. So that's the backup here to McVay showing up to the Friday press conference and talking about the elephant in the room while sitting next to less need. What are you guys thinking? Am I angry right now?
7:22I will say this, though. The one thing that would never be doubted is, you know, we couldn't be in more lockstep in every decision that we make. And I think it's, I get my demeanor last night. You know, I always want to be mindful of how things come off, things like that. Very excited about last night, very excited about today. And couldn't be more excited about us continuing to lead together. But every decision that we make is collective and collaborative. and so for any of the questions or misunderstandings just based on my demeanor or disposition last night i did want to get that out of the way this is my buddy right here so um i did that was brought to my attention because i got so many texts and um that was never my intended way to be able to come off but sometimes i can be a little grumpy you know no this does not pass the sniff test okay
8:15Rich Eisen:yeah i'm telling you everything that i'm hearing is it it passes the sniff test and that is exactly what happened and there might be a long time between now and and the time that simpson gets on the field and we could be talking about it as much as we will and the thing is reason one of the many reasons why it stands out do you know the last time a team had the reigning mvp quarterback and drafted a quarterback the next year in the first round? I'll give you the answer because you won't know it. The 1967 Green Bay Packers. That's literally what I was going to say. Green Bay Packers. After 33-year-old Bart Starr won it, the 1967 draft, 25th overall, they took Don Horn out of San Diego State.
9:04Rich Eisen:Oh, yes. Don Horn. And let me see. Let me get this correct. He wound up starting no games the first two years and started seven games. And then in 1971, wound up on the Broncos.
9:21Rich Eisen:So, and Rams fans will sit here and they might be pissed, but you have reached the unless and Sean, we trust phase. Patriots fans had to reach that early on with the lawyer Malloy stuff. With Bill. Hey, and Bill, we got to trust. Questionable moves at the time. And, you know, this is a rarity, as I mentioned, to see. And we talk about the small sample size of Ty Simpson's Alabama career, 15 starts. If this matters to you at all, okay? If this matters to you at all. Ty Simpson had the fourth lowest interception percentage in a season among quarterbacks and current power for schools since 2015. The other four guys.
10:19All right.
10:20Rich Eisen:On this list. Number he's fourth. Number five is Joe Burrow of 1.1 % of interceptions thrown compared to everything else in his 2019 season. the only ones with a better percentage is 1%, both Dak in 2015 and Caleb Williams in 2022. And the best is 0.6 % thrown by the 2023 Bo Nix. It translates. That's what I'm saying. In this one small stat that you're like, oh, you can choose anything you want for a stat.
11:01And the one person that can help Matthew Stafford the most,
11:08Rich Eisen:the Rams have acquired in Trent McDuffie using the 29th overall selection. I know I'm painting a rosy picture, but they don't need Ty Simpson now, and they don't need him down the road. You and I had a robust conversation about this on the Overreaction Monday podcast where I can totally get it, where folks are like, why in the hell are you not choosing somebody for a five-year contract that can help you for a long time, even after Matthew Stafford's gone? Why are you not choosing that player right now who can help Stafford win it, put the trophy in the case? You're not starting to clock so publicly about when are you done, Matthew, because we got somebody sitting here waiting in the wings.
11:46Rich Eisen:You're not pissing off your MVP quarterback or risking that. You're also not trading down to get the guy who apparently nobody else was coming up to go get unless they were you can't guarantee that and why are you doing all that on the flip side you can also with Trent McDuffie get short fields or even an early lead for Matthew before he even takes a snap you can also take a look at the rest of their draft and see who's going to even crack the lineup for a head coach who hardly plays rookies so whoever's drafted 13th overall wasn't necessarily going to get out there anyway but that's also not always the case Jared Verse being a defensive rookie of the year is a perfect example and Les is known for drafting some terrific players in a draft so there's all of that and on the flip side though is they could still win a trophy or plural with Stafford and then you got this guy ready and you're talking about ty simpson being terrific for 10 years to come after that and we're talking about the rams like they're the new packers oh so you go from golf to stafford that's multiple super bowls although one not one with golf but one's one with stafford and now you got another kid for years to come and mcveigh and less are lockstep and crushing it i don't know which one that's a what's more likely question but both of them are entirely uh reasonable to bring about no doubt about it but mcveigh's showing up we're buddies yeah i'm curious too if mcveigh this is going to sound i don't mean it to sound this way but can he develop a quarterback because ty simpson is going to be a developmental type player with probably only having played one season in five six seven years before he gets a chance to play if he does with the rams you know he inherited jared goff yeah but he developed him bud he immediately traded him no he didn't immediately trade him super bowl and then he was like see you later and then got matthew stafford an established guy right with the hall of fame trajectory so you know i'm just curious on you know how simpson's development is going to go under mcveigh well we might not find out for a while which makes the pick that much more confusing i don't think it's as terrible as it's made out to be and i don't you know mike greenberg called it what one of the worst he's ever seen you know yeah i think we don't know he was on it don't know yeah in the same way it's going to be a while till we find out let's see what the rams do without the use of a 13th overall pick helping and then we'll see what he develops after that but in the meantime it does not appear that a town with a plaque or a signpost missing for Mo Green, who created it, does not feel that decision has infringed upon the Rams' chances of winning the Super Bowl, correct?
14:42No, they're the favorites right now. It's 7-1. Seattle right behind them, plus 950. Buffalo 10-1. Ravens 11-1.
14:49Rich Eisen:Trevor in San Diego, did I answer your question before I popped you on the air? Trevor? A little bit, but not quite, because my question is you were one of the most critical of the Falcons' Pennix pick. Yes. And I just don't see how this is any better than that. Well, the Pennix pick – You've got a quarterback coming off an MVP season. Sure. As opposed to a quarterback coming off an Achilles injury. Seems like they needed insurance more than the Rams do. Well, they signed Kirk Cousins to a massive deal, right? Right. And so clearly I did push against them by saying you're supposed to win with this guy right now.
15:35Rich Eisen:Their plan was they signed him and then went ahead and drafted the kid. Stafford is somebody who's coming back, has already been there and is much older than, you know, cousins at the time. Right. 38. That's why. I mean, it's a bit different when you sign somebody and then switch midstream as opposed to we're here and I'm bringing the kid in right now. You understand? Like, you've got to plan for the future, certainly when you've also got the 29th overall pick. And the Rams are also a better team than the Falcons. They could easily handle it more than the Falcons. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense.
16:21I just, yeah, like I said, I remember you being critical of the Pinnock's pick, and it just doesn't compute to me that this makes that much more sense. You needed insurance for your 35-year-old off an Achilles tear more than you need insurance for your reigning MVP.
16:38Rich Eisen:Cousins is one year younger than Stafford, so it's not too far off. I want to correct myself on that one. I mean, it's the same church, but it's a totally different pew. It's a totally different pew. thanks for the call Trevor I appreciate people listening and taking this in and hearing what I have to say one over the other Rich's words have power right do you think the Falcons were so established and ready to roll that they could pass on somebody to help Cousins and get something going no I think that one I thought was I think everyone thought it was going to be maybe either later in the first round or just later on in that draft not 8th overall They put a cart before the horse well before the horse was Super Bowl worthy.
17:26Yeah, this feels more to me like Green Bay taking love, which we all were kind of like, what? And even Aaron Rodgers was like, what? Right. At least it seems like the Rams gave Stafford a heads up.
17:39Rich Eisen:But the difference was the Rams did this after Stafford won an MVP and the Packers did it. And Rodgers then won two. after that but he had still had two before no i know that i know that yeah so yeah this strikes me as more like the love we're all in the same listen it's all part of the when do you make this move for your future how do you create an end game for your quarterback that is good for everyone not everyone can stroll off like elway nope not everyone can do that where it's just like i got mine I'm done Green Bay though when Green Bay took love were they Super Bowl favorites going into that year I don't think so in 2020 I don't believe so 844 204 rich is the number to dial right here on our program Phil Dunster about to come up but just want to let you know that PayPal is proud to be the official peer-to-peer payment sponsor of the NFL when fans come together on game day PayPal makes it easier to split ticket costs, cover tailgate supplies, parking, or even food.
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22:04Rich Eisen:And we see Steve Carell strolling through the campus. Where is this? Where is this campus? Is it here in Southern California? Campus is actually, I don't know if it's, it's University of the Pacific in Stockton. Ah, okay. It's lovely. It's beautiful. So it's a real campus and there's real students strolling around and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah. They very kindly let us film there because they are, I think it's quite a rarity in California. So I believe that it looks a bit like it could be an East Coast college. It does look like a liberal arts college in the state of Connecticut. There you go.
22:37Rich Eisen:It's what it does look like to me. What's crazy is that obviously you don't have the seasons quite so much here on the West. That would be correct. I can confirm that. Yeah, pretty much. And so the leaves, they've had to clip. In the show, if you see any leaves that are not green, they've gone and clipped all of those on. Come on. Seriously. and if they need them to not have it, they go post-production. They paint all of the leaves out so that it's... Yeah, you might even see, if you can see the image that's just come up, there's some orange leaves in the background. And they're clipped on. So there's somebody on the staff whose job is to clip colored leaves onto actual trees.
23:11Yeah, it's all a beautiful machine that's whirring away. How about that? Yeah, it's crazy. Detail, that detail. But yeah, it was a very beautiful place to go.
23:21Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, it's a Bill Lawrence program, Matt Tarsis as well. creating it and so it's not your first bill lawrence foray as well because he was the one who put together ted lasso as well correct alongside alongside bill sorry alongside uh jason and joe and brendan yeah they were the masterminds and you could see a very similar way similar feel to the show to ted lasso as well like you're seeing some of those nice warm moments to sort of wrap up a show that's otherwise um you know in comedy as well as uh some seriousness it's a nice blend of everything yeah i think the thing that that um this sort of fabric of bill shows tend to be that you have fairly reprehensible people doing very relatable characters doing fairly reprehensible things in quite mad scenarios yes and so i think we relate to them because we go i can see that they're trying to be better but they are also being idiots you know at times and you go oh that's me yeah that's me i definitely do that um and i think that there is also that warmth you know there's a real sort of um that's that sort of trademark warmth that he has in his shows and we see it also in shrinking which is at the minute as well that's absolutely incredibly um funny and also not afraid to sort of go toe the line a little bit with um some more spicy humor right i mean my you know my my character is a um russian studies professor and so i thought that's going to be you know a little close to the bone at the minute and bill was like yeah yeah we We'll just keep it light.
24:53We'll just keep it light. And you're like, in light of what's going on in the minute, it's incredible that he does. They do. The writers do.
25:00Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, you're also, your behavior on the program kind of takes away from the academia portion of your character. Sure. You know, what's going on with, you know, Rooster's daughter, who is, you know, your wife on the program, and you cheat on her, and you knock up a student, right? I mean, I'm not telling any tales out of school right here. No, no, no. Sure, it's true. It's true. And then just in the recent weeks, you're going back and forth between both ladies and you're trying to figure out, do you want to be a dad? Do you want to be a husband? Can you be both? And can you be good for either one of them?
25:29Rich Eisen:Yeah. I kind of am I picking up on that? That's absolutely right. OK. And what's funny is that the fun thing to do when you have these sort of debauched characters is looking for reasons why they might actually be good people. or that you can understand what legitimizes in their mind why it is that they do it. Because you sort of think from an external perspective, you look at that and go, he must just know that he's a bit of a do, surely. But he's there going, well, she loves me and she loves me and I really enjoy boinking both of them. So why not? Because it makes total sense. And your female students love you and everyone everyone kind of loves you yeah you know and she is as he makes pains to uh make clear that sonny is a post-grad student she may be a student but she's post-graduates makes sense let's make sure about that uh and interesting i mean that you would say that because your character jamie tart goes through such a journey in the history of ted lasso it is one of my favorite parts of the show because you know uh you were easy to hate but wondering like what would happen to your character and you do come around at the very end um and the scene in Amsterdam where you're where you're riding bicycles with Brett Goldstein who is you know obviously Roy Kent that's one of the more beautiful aspects of the program your your Jamie Tartt's relationship with his dad and the way that Ted Ted still there for you even though you jilted the team yeah um it it's it's awesome you know it's sort of in your appraiser there you sort of listed all of those, the journey that he goes on in a really good, clear way.
27:14And those are all the things that are happening to him. So as an actor, you just need to go, just respond to that. And also I think there's something amazing about the gift of playing a footballer because there's not a huge amount of TV shows. There are TV shows out there about football, soccer, sorry guys.
27:29Rich Eisen:That's okay. You don't have to Americanize us. We're good. Subtitles come up. It's all good. No, you bet. There's not a huge amount of TV shows about them because they are almost beyond satire because their lives are so extraordinary. And so it was really, really fun. I see football as a sort of sports performers, athletes, as these kind of modern day gladiators in a sense that they, they live and die by their performances. They turn up to work and they've got 40, 50, 60 ,000 people screaming their name, booing them if they get it wrong it is so visceral and so to have that experience for your vocation and then to also have a personal life alongside that must be crazy and so it was really fun having the sort of the extremities of being a footballer and then also having but what happens when it's like you know i mean far bit for me to you know make the comparison but in the way that you would see sopranos you see tony soprano he's a mob boss but then he's also in therapy.
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28:29Yes. Sort of domestic with the vocational. You know, extrapolating something of that in the madness of being on a football pitch and then also trying to negotiate a personal relationship where you might actually be getting things wrong and you have to apologize and take responsibility. That drama, that tension between those two spaces is really fun to do.
28:48Rich Eisen:And you're a fan of which team and which side in real life? AFC Wimbledon. AFC Wimbledon, which is the Wimbledon version of AFC Richmond, would you say? Is that a comparison? They don't quite have the same funding as AFC Richmond, unfortunately. Well, at the very beginning where we find AFC Richmond, at the very beginning of Ted Lassiter. So Wimbledon FC were a Division I Premier League side way back when. This is sort of, you know, they went into administration around 2000, 2002, I think it was. And then they got bought by a franchise. We don't really have the franchise system in the UK. Okay.
29:26the local community Wimbledon community said we're not going to support this new team they who shall not be named you can Google it if you want guys okay and so they created their own team AFC Wimbledon so it's a Phoenix club amazingly the the Wimbledon FC emblem was always a Phoenix and now AFC Wimbledon this Phoenix club also has the same okay same emblem and they have worked their way up from the eighth tier of English football and we've just just maintained staying in league one which is the third tier um after 24 years okay and this is for
30:02Rich Eisen:again for those who may not be familiar the same wimbledon is the tennis club right correct okay yes that's that's the part of london you're you hail from that's not where i hail from okay i'm um how'd you find afc wimbledon just love the story of it really and i i was more of a rugby player when I was younger. I preferred rugby. And so I then sort of came to football a little bit late. I'm a born again football supporter, I suppose. I liked it a bit. And I was just sort of looking for a club. My best mate is an Arsenal supporter. So I sort of by proxy have a Premier League side. So when Jamie Tartt goes to Man City, was that an issue?
30:43Rich Eisen:Because isn't Arsenal in Man City locked in. They are now. At present right now, we just named one of the two, one would think, Premier League champions. Do you think? You tell me. I don't know. I mean, I feel like it feels that way. The tide has turned that way very much. But no, I mean, listen, we met, we worked with Pep Guardiola for Ted Lasso. Yeah, we meet, you know, he came on and it was incredible. A lot of the extras who were in the stadium at the Etihad, had Man City Stadium were Man City fans. And when Pep walked into the stadium, everyone rose to their feet and applauded him. It was quite an amazing sort of messianic moment.
31:27And he was very generous with his time. He was just a real, he has this thing with players where when he, he's very physical with them. He's very emotive. And we had a moment, Jamie me and him have a moment and he whispers something in his ear and Pep has this thing where he slaps, like really slaps them on the chest as a sort of, I think a sort of sign of sort of paternal love or whatever it is. And he slapped me on the chest and it was the greatest thing. Are you serious? That's amazing. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Did he ever coach you up specifically? Like, absolutely not. No, he, he wouldn't have wasted his time with that.
32:10No, but he just had a moment. He was basically said to Jason Stekas, who was sort of working with him on what to do. Pep was just like, just tell me what to say, man. I'll do whatever you want. And he was great.
32:24Rich Eisen:Oh, man. Did you, I mean, improve as a footballer? Did you do, like, how did you get better? I mean, because I didn't look at you. I'm like, yeah, I don't believe this guy. Oh, that's good. No, you were fearful of that. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. Yeah? I didn't think that at all. They, well, we did do some training. I'd see it more as choreography. Sure. I thought of it more as choreography. But the funny thing with it is that unlike a dance where the variables are your feet and space and time and your partner you're dancing with, with a football, of course, it has, you know, the football is spinning and, you know, it's the grass is bobbling over the grass.
33:05There are so many variables with it. Yes. It makes it so hard. so really we just tried to focus on you know us moving to certain areas of the pitch and hoping that the pool followed us but the problem was then I think that they cut it together so well so they made us look like we were really good so that I would then go and play a five a side with my mates and we would get absolutely hammered and someone would come up to me afterwards and be like aren't you Jamie Tarr? and I'm there dripping in sweat having just lost 6-0 and I'm like shut up
33:35Rich Eisen:don't look at me what's your favorite scene that you were involved in in ted last time i think it's probably the bicycle scene with brett i mean i just loved that so much because it was also it would have been the most amazing week um in amsterdam and it was at the culmination of jamie's storyline and i you know brett and i had this sort of quasi i love affair during uh during the filming of the show and it was just a really special time. And also, it had just been a really great episode to film that. And I mean, there were loads. There was any time that Jason had a TED speech was a really special time.
34:13Rich Eisen:Well, the scene where the believe sign rips and the whole side team squad thinks we're done, we're toast. And that speech that comes right after that, spectacular. Yeah. Spectacular. There's a lot of deference, irreverence, sorry. when he was doing those speeches and you all want to make sure you get it right. You know, we've all got small parts in that and there's a wonderful kind of, I don't know, sort of allegory of us wanting just to serve the piece so that this moment can have space to breathe and that Jason has the platform to be able to do this and Ted can say these things because we know what it means to us.
34:52We know what it would mean to these players and we know what it means to the audience. So we wanted to really, you feel it. you really certainly by season three when we were aware of the sort of impact or or i don't know the the sort of ripples it had in the world a little bit not that you really try and let that in but you just sort of you know that the stakes are somewhat higher that it means something to people and you want to make sure you get it right so um yeah there was there were really there were cool
35:16Rich Eisen:moments yeah well pardon me for for asking but is rooster preventing you from the new season of ted lasso no no no no no no that's just um that they are doing a new um it's the the backroom staff is very similar but there's a new team on ted okay and my wife is actually directing some of the new season and so i have a sort of i'm riding shotgun on her experience of it because i want to stay near to it but it's very much it's been an amazing thing it changed my life the show and now you know she's got her own experience with it it's just a really special thing to feel that's so cool that must be really great for you it is great and also i get to see the show and the show's still brilliant and the new cast are so good so so good and i think that you know it's going to be it's going to be an amazing thing in that it's going to have so many of those same hallmarks that people love of the show but it's just got new fresh blood and they're all brilliant it's gonna be great so no jamie tart cameos no nothing i don't know okay i don't want to get into it i shouldn't did i did i did i just tread on uh i need to tread more lightly uh talk about rooster rich all right um is there any similarities between steve carell and sudeikis you got anything on that front just from your own obviously their own two brilliant you know comic actors and serious actors all in the same body yes so yes that's those are two i'm going to steal those okay say those all right please um they both have this really lovely quality where they are two people who have made a career out of being really funny and that people look to them to be funny but when you're on set with them they are the first people to laugh at other people's jokes and i think that what i mean by that is they have the humility of going like I want to platform you guys to give you the space to be funny and that this is your set as well as mine and that they have those similarities and they're good leaders of the cast.
37:20They set an example. So they pass instead
37:23Rich Eisen:of scoring. That's good, isn't it? Believe, Phil. Believe. Come on now. There it is. Get me nominated. It's great to have you here, man. Thank you for having me. I'm a big fan. Big fan of everything you're doing. I think it's really neat. My wife sits in this chair when I'm not hosting. She's also the producer and co-host of a Women's Sports Now program that we're producing. And I bring that up by saying to work with and share something work-wise with your wife is something that I cherish. And I think it's really neat that that's happening with you right now. Yeah, 100%. And so I'll keep an eye for the credits for the next season of Ted Lasso.
38:09Rich Eisen:But in the meantime, congrats on Rooster. Thank you. And I look forward to seeing where this season goes. And you've already been renewed for season two. So congratulations on that. Thank you very much. You're very kind. Phil Dunster right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Back with your phone calls and more as we take a look at the rest of the weekend in sports when we come back.
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39:38Rich Eisen:Todd Archer is reporting that Pickens has not signed his tender yet? Yeah. I mean, what's going on here? I thought it was done. I don't know. I don't know. What? He can't get traded unless he signs the tender. Right. And he can't play unless he signs the tender. So I don't know what it's about. There is less pie. because they could sign him to the tender and say we're signing him to a long-term deal but you can't do that after june 15th all right so anybody's wondering what's this all about i have no idea it can also be that uh pickens is like on vacation exactly that's although i did sign my first nfl network contract while i was on my honeymoon from venice and faxed it in i mean while suzy napped i'll never forget that i signed it i'm like there's my wife she's napping on our honeymoon there's venice out there what life is amazing life is amazing and then i'm like how do i say because she was the she was the one who could speak fluent italian and i'm like how do i say to you know the person that you know luigi at the front desk i need to fax something first of all steve bornstein like how do i i don't know i'm just shorthanding it you know what i mean docu sign exists docu sign exists that's true now my bad my bad docu sign that's true you can do that there's there's a way to electronically do it yeah i'm trying to come chris i'm trying to come up with stuff i got me i don't know get out or the most likely scenario is we keep the cowboy's name in the news because that's what oh so jerry is telling him not to sign it so we can be in the monday headlines i mean we're coming anyone would this surprise you no no i don't know maybe I thought this was a done deal, guys.
41:24Rich Eisen:I mean, we're just coming up with one reason after another. What else do you want to know? Yeah, I don't know. What else do you want to know? What else do you want to know? Well. I don't know. And Stephen Jones saying he's playing on the tender means he's playing on the tender or that's a negotiating position. What's up, Trevor? And if they do want to trade them, they might be like, we don't want to go to that team. So we're not being traded until we sign this thing. So find the team we want. And the team that we want isn't going to be signing my guy to a contract that's long-term to our liking.
42:02Rich Eisen:So we're not signing the tender. Or he just can't find a pen. I have no idea. We need Jack Klompas. Take the pen. I don't have an answer. Right, it's upside down. But it's something that's notable. Yeah, I don't like this right now. Let's go to David in Ohio. Hey, David! Okay, okay. What's up, David? Hey, what's up, fellas? I got two comments first. I got to meet Chris Brockman and TJ Jefferson in Pittsburgh over the weekend. It was so great. They were so nice. Hey, it was. What's that? We got a picture of you. I got a picture of you up on the screen. Heck yeah, I sent it to Chris, and I got to meet them, did a little higher register with Chris, and that was fun.
42:50And my other comment is for TJ. Yes, sir. I don't know if he saw Caleb Downs going through the Cowboys facility, but do you think that maybe Jerry came in there with a Swiffer to wipe off the 30 years of dust off the rookie case there? David. Oh, boy. I like David. David, we were so cool when you saw me at Permanente's, man. And then you just had to go do that to me. But yeah, probably. Someone had to clean. Was that your middle finger you were just flashing? Oh, no. I said we were so close. Oh, okay. Well, I wouldn't flip somebody off on camera. I mean, off camera. All right.
43:29Rich Eisen:David. By the way, we did higher register on Thursday's program because of your suggestion. Inspired by you, David. You inspired us. Yeah. so don't take it the wrong way when I say this has been a pretty good phone call
43:46David went kind of higher register when he saw me in Primanti's he was like TJ Jefferson and I was like oh
43:53Rich Eisen:hey David Rich are you still there? yeah I am do you want to know the higher register I gave to Chris give it to me I said hey Chris you look pretty good without hair David in Ohio everybody. Thanks for the call, buddy. Call back. I love that. It was fun. I love that. He's a Steeler fan living in Ohio? Yes. Okay. Just like Ben Roethlisberger. That was a heck of a moment, too, because I told you, Chris, the amount of times I've been at that Permanente Brothers, my friend's a manager there, so to get recognized there of all places. It was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. And we had a great lunch.
44:31That was fantastic.
44:32Rich Eisen:Shout out to Missy Chuck. We're so close. Now the schedule's about to get released? I think in a couple weeks. 17. I know Vinny's already blowing us up about he wants to know what the Jets schedule is. Oh, Pasquantino, right? He wants to know because the Jets are coming to Nashville, where I believe he makes his off-season home, and Kansas City, where he makes his in-season home. He wants to make sure it's after the baseball season. I hate this team. Well, maybe not anymore. Vinny's like back. Jets are crushing it. They got four really good football players in the 50 picks and we'll see the other ones.
45:10Rich Eisen:Really good players. It's all up to Gino. Oh, please. It has nothing to do with this year. Nothing to do with this year. It's literally every year. What's more likely? Gino's going to find a late career a la Stafford and Rodgers and Brady and I know I'm naming some names. He's going to find a late career fountain of youth and be Be the Darnold of this situation. Or the next quarterback is in next year's draft. And this team slowly but surely builds. And Aaron Glenn is the man to do it. I mean, I don't know what the what's more likely is. It's crazier things have happened. Or David Bailey gets traded in three years.
45:57Rich Eisen:Okay, this guy. Why? History tells me that's what's going to happen. I mean, he's got a little. Listen, you are not off in the fact that year in and year out, Jet fans think this is it. This is it either their year or this is the year that the drafted players coalesce and they begin to build and become a juggernaut. And we're waiting. and David Bailey and Kenyon Sadiq and Omar Cooper are now the, I guess, what would you say? Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, and Jermaine Johnson of the moment. And Sauce Gardner and Jermaine Johnson aren't there anymore. And neither is Quinnen. And Quinnen Williams year before.
46:46Rich Eisen:But those picks are now turning into the three I just mentioned and the three more that are next year. And if that happens, they're the first team to have three first-round picks in consecutive drafts. And if the GM's the right guy to do it and they start building this thing up the right way, then this is finally the rebuild that ends all previous rebuilds. This is the rebuild that ends the rebuilding. This is the building. You sound like Sixer fans. The process. Never trust the process. I'm telling you that right now. I understand that. Peyton Pritchard just hit another three. Oh, I hate that guy.
47:21Rich Eisen:This is the reality of the situation with the Jets, but good for Vinny. Vinny Pasquantino is the avatar of Jet fans saying, they nailed it, and I'm into this rebuild. Yeah, sure. Why not? You know? The Ridge Eyes is Show Podcast. You can't reason with the sun. Trust us. We've tried. This summer, it's time to put that angry ball of fire on mute. Columbia's OmniShade Technologies, is engineered to protect you from the sun's harsh rays that can burn and damage your skin. The sun is relentless, but so is our gear. Level up your summer at Columbia.com to spend more time outside and less time slathering on aloe lotion.
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Rich and Brockman debate if the Los Angeles Rams erred greatly by selecting QB Ty Simpson 13th overall in the NFL Draft despite having the reigning MVP Matthew Stafford in the locker room still.
Actor Phil Dunster joins Rich in-studio to promote his HBO comedy ‘Rooster’ co-starring Steve Carrell, shares his favorite memories from playing Jamie Tart in ‘Ted Lasso’ including how he, a die-hard football/soccer fan reacted to sharing a scene with legendary Manchester City Manager Pep Guardiola.
Rich and Cowboys fan TJ react to Dallas still waiting on WR George Pickens to sign his Franchise Tag tender contract.
Jets fan Rich weighs in on New York’s NFL Draft weekend.
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