In short
Rich Eisen Show Hour 2 covers Week 12 fallout and Monday-night/Thanksgiving previews, focusing on three main storylines: Shedeur Sanders’ first NFL start and win for the Cleveland Browns, Raiders offensive struggles under Chip Kelly, and Joe Burrow’s status for Thanksgiving vs the Ravens.
Guest backgrounds
The episode is “guestless” (no in-studio guests). Calls include fans: Darkside Don (Raiders), David (Vikings), and Dylan (Colts).
Key claims
Shedeur Sanders looked poised early, made key throws (including a rollout to Isaiah Bond) and avoided major mistakes; Miles Garrett dominated with three sacks, and the Browns won despite rookie growing pains. Raiders can’t protect the quarterback (10 sacks allowed) and need a rebuild/identity. Burrow is expected to play after toe surgery, though the Bengals’ earlier Thanksgiving plan used Joe Flacco and suffered injuries.
Notable examples
Garrett’s sack streak; Browns’ rookie Quinshawn Judkins scoring; Raiders’ two-man route breakdowns on film; Ravens’ Lamar Jackson zero-TD run; Bengals’ injury to T. Higgins.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWeek 12 Recap and Upcoming Games
0:04 to 0:26
Recap of Week 12 NFL games and preview of upcoming Monday night matchup.
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Week 12 Recap and Upcoming Games
1:26 to 1:51
Recap of Week 12 NFL games and preview of upcoming Monday night matchup.
“So a lot of people want to see me fail, and it ain't going to happen.”
Shadour Sanders' Career Start
1:51 to 3:36
Discussion on Shadour Sanders' first career start and game performance.
“We really haven't taken the Steelers side of things, which we will.”
Shadour's Performance Analysis
3:36 to 6:10
In-depth analysis of Shadour Sanders' plays during his first start.
“Shadour Sanders started a football game for the Cleveland Browns.”
Miles Garrett's Impact and Record
6:10 to 8:31
Discussion on Miles Garrett's performance and sack records in the league.
“Shador Sanders rolls to his right and uncorks the throw on the run, jumping in the air.”
Shadour Sanders Post-Game Remarks
8:31 to 11:15
Highlights from Shadour Sanders' post-game comments after his first win.
“but the calls coming from within the house the horror movie analogy of anybody who watches a horror movie and you're wondering why are you doing what you're doing because we all know that's the guy with the axe.”
Shedeur Sanders' Performance Reflection
14:00 to 16:46
Analysis of Shedeur Sanders' debut performance and the pressures he faces.
“Like there's no choice, there's no question.”
Debate on Kevin Stefanski's Coaching Decisions
16:46 to 21:01
Discussion on the effectiveness of Kevin Stefanski's coaching strategies.
“And I'll tell you this, speaking of Browns fans, what he's done is he's given a little bit of hope.”
Call-In Discussion about Raiders' Future
22:34 to 28:00
Listeners share thoughts on the Raiders' performance and coaching issues.
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Raiders' Coaching Changes and Upcoming Challenges
28:00 to 28:32
Discussion on the Raiders' coaching situation and upcoming games.
“You know, I don't know what the answer is.”
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Offensive Line Struggles and Quarterback Performance
28:32 to 29:35
Analyzing the impact of offensive line performance on quarterback success.
“And you know that's basically a home game for Raiders fans, habitually.”
Listener Call: Concerns About Vikings' Quarterback Play
29:35 to 32:50
A caller shares concerns over the Vikings' quarterback efficiency and protection.
“It's actually the last caller goes right into pretty much what I'm talking about, with Jimmy McCarthy currently at the Vikings.”
Evaluating Quarterback J.J. McCarthy's Performance
32:50 to 34:08
In-depth discussion on J.J. McCarthy's struggles and team dynamics.
“I mean, you don't think – you've met J.J.”
Joe Burrow's Thanksgiving Readiness
34:08 to 35:12
Updates on Joe Burrow's status for the Thanksgiving game and team dynamics.
“without any comparisons to what they used to have.”
Joe Burrow's Thanksgiving Readiness
37:37 to 38:21
Updates on Joe Burrow's status for the Thanksgiving game and team dynamics.
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Listener Call: Colts' Playoff Prospects and AFC South Outlook
38:21 to 41:13
Dylan from Vancouver discusses the Colts' chances in the AFC South.
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Reflection on Colts' Season and Future Matchups
41:13 to 42:00
Discussion on the Colts' recent performance and upcoming games.
“Jacksonville coming up with a win in Arizona, despite four turnovers by Trevor Lawrence.”
Jonathan Taylor and Colts Insights
42:00 to 43:26
Discussing Jonathan Taylor's performance and the Colts' playoff history.
“He was kind enough to come on NFL Network and give us an interview that everybody wanted because we were all wondering, are you going to keep Peyton Manning?”
Joe Burrow's Injury and Thanksgiving Game
43:26 to 44:38
Analyzing Joe Burrow's injury status and its impact on the upcoming game.
“TJ8 started that game for a Texans team that had already wrapped up the AFC South.”
Ravens and Lamar Jackson's Performance
44:38 to 46:30
Examining the Ravens' recent games and Lamar Jackson's struggles.
“He put himself in a position to do his best to play yesterday.”
John Harbaugh's Confidence in Lamar
46:30 to 47:14
Harbaugh expresses unwavering confidence in Lamar Jackson despite struggles.
“You know, it's us competing and fighting, and that's what Lamar's doing.”
Transcript
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1:23Now, on with the show. This, this, this, this. This is the Rich Eisen Show. So a lot of people want to see me fail, and it ain't going to happen. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. And for Shador Sanders, the first passing touchdown of his career. On today's show, complete Week 12 recap, Monday night preview, your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
1:57Rich Eisen:hour number two the rich hodson show is on the air everybody 844204 rich number to dial phone lines are lit but there are a couple that are not so you you can get in uh while the getting is good we're going to take your calls once again we're guestless on a monday because there's just so much to talk about uh we already hit some of the uh big games that happened uh on sunday with the chiefs saving their opportunity to win their division and improving their chances of making the playoffs as a wild card if they don't win the division by coming back from a 20-9 deficit, taking the Colts to overtime and beating them, which opens up the AFC South a little bit more for the Texans and the Jaguars.
2:36Rich Eisen:We'll talk about that. We also hit on the Bears. We really haven't taken the Steelers side of things, which we will. We also hit on the Cowboys coming back on the Philadelphia Eagles and the Rams being the best team in football. And news of Baker Mayfield maybe having just a sprained AC joint fingers crossed there for the Buccaneers. In advance of tonight's Monday night game in San Francisco, between the Panthers, who have a massive opportunity to put a card on the table and say, we are a force to be reckoned with, and we're going to beat the San Francisco 49ers and put a crimp in their playoff plans while improving ours.
3:11Rich Eisen:That's on the ESPN Family of Networks this evening. To wrap up Week Dozen and get us ready for Thanksgiving week chock full of important contests. We say hello to the Disney Plus ESPN app audience that's watching us live. And of course, there's the ESPN radio presented by Progressive Insurance and Sirius XM Channel 80 audiences in our podcast as well. Overreaction Mondays in the books. That podcast already recorded. Let's get to it. Does it finally happen? Shadour Sanders started a football game for the Cleveland Browns. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. When it took forever for Shadur Sanders to hear his name called in the craziest three-day stretch of a draft involving one single player that I can ever remember or that we'll ever see again that also included him being pranked and all that crazy stuff, never thought in a million years that in relation to Shadur Sanders starting, we'd hear his father's name, obviously, right?
4:14Rich Eisen:And we'd hear the name of whichever quarterback he was taking the job from, or at least needed to take the job for that Sunday because of the quarterback not being available or benched. It's Dylan Gabriel not being available due to a concussion. Joe Flacco being sent away, just like Kenny Pickett. Never thought we'd hear the name of Eric Zier, that's for sure. But he was the last quarterback. The Cleveland Browns started, and he wound up a winner in his first career game for Bill Belichick back in 1995. It was such a stunning set of circumstances. They closed the franchise in Cleveland and moved.
4:57Wait a minute.
4:57Rich Eisen:I'm being told there were other reasons. Okay. But there's Shador out there, and of all places, Las Vegas, Nevada, where Kenny Pickett is standing on the sideline with an earbud. Where a lot of people thought the Raiders, needing a backup for veteran Geno Smith, or at least a plan for down the road, would draft Shador of all places for Shador Sanders to get the start. And he does. And, you know, early on, not making the mistakes. And the good news is they got another rookie in a very, very good draft for the Cleveland Browns named Quinshawn Judkins. Good idea to give him the football, right? Don't you think?
5:49Man, he's so tough.
5:51Rich Eisen:And touchdown for him. And so now Shador can play with a lead. That's what you need. You need him to play with a lead. And he does. But at one point in this game, early on, Isaiah Bond, who again, the Cleveland Browns took when few others would for different reasons. He goes deep. Shador Sanders rolls to his right and uncorks the throw on the run, jumping in the air. That was the Rick Dalton shift. There it is right there. that's what he can do that's what he can do right there from once upon a time in Hollywood right there there it is right there that's not what Dylan Gabriel could do or Flacco could do or Pickett could do or anybody else on that roster at any point in this season could do that's what he can do right there Bond jumps for the ball he just not jumped for maybe that would have been Chador's first career touchdown pass rather than throwing it down the line of scrimmage to, I love this, Samson, since Dion always likes to use some analogies from the good book.
7:18Rich Eisen:Although this Samson spelled with a P. And he just takes it 66 yards for the distance. but in a similar play call and again I love the kid I love Dylan Gabriel he came on the show he couldn't have been nicer Dylan Gabriel had a similar throw rolling to his left and throwing back to his right in one of his starts and airmailed it Shador threw a beautiful pass all the way across the field and Sampson did the rest for Shador's first career touchdown and then speaking of doing the rest i said it on our um overreaction monday podcast so i'll repurpose it if you will hear maybe it's the first time you're hearing this but in las vegas the horror movie analogy is in relation to the vegas rookie running backs pre-snap stance right the jason stance for ashton jenty stand up tall that's what he does unless Chip Kelly says don't and then they're like screw it do whatever you want yada yada yada somebody's not there anymore so
8:34Rich Eisen:but the calls coming from within the house the horror movie analogy of anybody who watches a horror movie and you're wondering why are you doing what you're doing because we all know that's the guy with the axe. You don't want to do that because the person's coming for you with the axe. The Grim Reaper was in Las Vegas, Nevada yesterday. Proving that F1 wasn't the only fastest individuals in that city.
9:06Rich Eisen:Miles friggin' Garrett. It doesn't look real. It doesn't look real. You're like a real person. It doesn't look real. Oh, it's real. that was all shador not making the mistakes he did make mistakes but doing making the plays that were necessary hitting samson in stride or perfectly so he was able to get in stride and then hitting bond and then not making mistakes letting judkins do his thing enough for miles garrett three sacks third game in the last four weeks with at least three sacks through 11 team games since sacks were recorded in 1982. By the way, what were they doing before 82? Right? When quarterbacks were getting taken down, right?
9:55Hey, Deacon Jones has a lot of those.
9:57Rich Eisen:I think Deacon Jones came up with the term of sack. Didn't he have a job in a grocery store because guys back in the day had to have second jobs or something like that? I don't know if that's a wives' tale or not. Do you use the phrase? That he would just bag up quarterbacks, sacking them? Miles Garrett, since the sack rate began to be a stat in 1982, he now is 18 through the first 11 team games. That beats Mark Gaston's mark of 11.5 in 1984. Mike Del Tufo, before you were taking credit for the K-Corner as a Mets fan, that you never were.
10:44Rich Eisen:That is what gave birth to the New York SAC exchange. I had a poster of the New York SAC exchange when I was a kid of Gasino, Klecko, Abdul Salaam, and Marty Lyons. You know, it's interesting. Jason Garrett leads the league in sacks with 18. Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. What did I say? Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett leading the league in sacks. Let me try and save this. By the way, that's where you play the slow SportsCenter theme. Whenever I make a mistake. That's right. You don't want to be that guy. Miles Garrett, pardon me. I'll applaud for him. His 18 sacks right now leads the league. You know his second with 13 sacks?
11:31Rich Eisen:Is Miles Garrett in the last four weeks?
11:38strahan yesterday i don't know if you guys saw this he basically said goodbye to his sack i
11:42Rich Eisen:don't blame him because i should have never been his in the first place tj watch be saying goodbye nice uh but strahan in that sack record season um had the the record of of most sacks over a five game span 12 and a half garrett's now got 14 over his last five yeah i mean he's had a game with five, four, and he had three on Sunday. So that's enough. That's enough to come up with a W against a team in Vegas that can't protect the quarterback and can't put it all together for four quarters or is struggling to do so right now. And Shadur is in fact the first Browns quarterback to win in his first career start since the franchise reconstituted in Cleveland in 1999.
12:33Rich Eisen:And we know there's been a lot of them. There's been a lot of them, too, that hope was poured into that obviously didn't pan out. But this is what Shador said after the game to the CBS broadcast. The win is crazy. It's amazing, you know. Off of one week of practice, you know what I mean? This is one week of practice. So imagine, you know, what a full offseason look like. It'll get dangerous. but it's just a one week of practice so I'm just truly thankful you know that everything happened so I'm glad I'm glad he threw the humble pardon at the end well right you know when the Sanders was showing through because otherwise that that would that would just light up half of you know uh the tv shows that precede us every single day wait a minute I'm told it did anyway my bad He had this to say after the game as well.
13:27Rich Eisen:Which one are we playing first, Mr. Hoskins? Oh, it's just general thoughts at the podium. Everybody starts different places. And like I say, just because I didn't get the summer reps, you know, just because I wasn't in the best situation, for me to be prepared to go out there and execute, like from a summer standpoint, that's how life is. You know, everybody's not in the right – everybody's not in the best situation, you know, but there's no excuse. You got to go out there and perform. Like there's no choice, there's no question. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep. Who cares, you know?
14:09So a lot of people want to see me fail and it ain't going to happen, you know. It ain't going to happen.
14:16Rich Eisen:At least full Game of Thrones. Not today. Not today. Of course, he made some rookie mistakes. He made the ups and downs. Of course, we saw it. It wasn't a perfect game, but he did what he needed to do with the support of his teammates to come up with a win for Cleveland and was humble in the process, asked if he had a chip on his shoulder. No, I was a fifth-round pick. I got skipped by everybody at least five times. So it's not – it just comes with the game. You know, it is what it is, but I'm just thankful for where I am now. You know, I don't – everybody have their differences. But I still got an opportunity to play, so why can't I be mad, you know?
14:58Money different, but thankfully I have a good family, you know. So it is what it is. We're not playing for that. We're playing for the love of the game. So I'm just thankful to be out here, have the opportunity, be able to go and play, go out there and play, go out there and start. Like, you don't know how surreal, you know, that feeling is knowing that you have the responsibility of the Browns organization on your shoulders, you know. Having all the fans, you know, everybody in here arguing with each other online and everything. Everybody have their differences about me. It is what it is. I don't know how you don't like that kid, man.
15:31I really. I'm with you, Teej. I mean, they act like Deion. They say, well, they hold against his dad like Deion was some type of pariah. Deion was one of the most popular NFL players of all time, right? Yep. And he backed it up on the field. He backed it up on a diamond. He backed it up in commercials and selling shoes. So I don't understand this thing where, like, they're holding it against his dad.
15:52Rich Eisen:He also told a story about how I grew up in a 30 ,000, he told a story at the podium about he grew up in a 30 ,000 foot, 30 ,000 square foot house. But his dad always took them to, you know, more disadvantaged parts of the town to let them understand the way that people live. And, again, the whole reason why he went so long as he did is everybody thought, well, Dion is just going to helicopter dad this whole situation. and all he did was just get a spot up in a suite with Constance, who is the best. And also, did you see all the smoke? I saw Matt and Steven Jackson. Anyway, so, and did he hold a press conference afterwards?
16:35Rich Eisen:Dion? No. No. Hugged it out with his son and then went off to finish his season in Colorado with at least something good happening in the Sanders family on the football field there. And I'll tell you this, speaking of Browns fans, what he's done is he's given a little bit of hope. Just a little bit of hope. So Kevin Stefanski, after the game, asked about, what about next? Do you feel like he's earned the opportunity to start to be played? Yeah, I'm not going to get into that, Chris. Obviously, you know, proud of him and proud of this offense. And there are a ton of things to learn from, but I'm just going to worry about today.
17:13Rich Eisen:Come on! Come on, Kevin! Come on! 49ers are coming into your house next week. Come on! You want to see what fifth-round pick can do against Mr. Irrelevant? Short week with the Niners coming all the way east. Let's go! Let's see what he can do again! Can't tell me the fan base doesn't want this. Come on! Well, you don't coach for the fan base. I know, but... But you coach for your, yeah. And I will say this, you know, the whole sabotaging this and we were saying like, it sure looks like they didn't want him and all of that stuff, not getting reps. You know, Ian Rappaport has had a report on Sunday game day morning that they had something called a dogs period or something like that.
18:01Rich Eisen:I should have gotten the name right. I wasn't thinking I was going to talk about it. But he had a special period for all the young players who weren't getting snaps, like 10 to 12 snaps just for these guys. And Shador was part of him. So he was getting some snaps, some reps, just with his fellow young 'uns that couldn't get the reps with the regulars because that's just the way things work. So it's not like that they threw and cast him aside, weren't paying attention to him. But he had to get work on his own. What was the story Mooch told yesterday? Well, Mooch told a story that he wasn't working with the scout team early on when Flacco was still there, and he was kind of surprised about that.
18:34Rich Eisen:But he also then learned that there were other periods that Stefanski was creating and then having meetings with Shador as if he was the starting quarterback. He wasn't neglecting him. But I don't know what the, unless you're one of those old school guys, like you don't lose your job due to injury or anything like that. But let's just see what he can do to follow up. You're not saying anything, which means you don't agree. You know, they won a game against maybe the worst team in the league. Take out the two long plays. He was 9 of 18 for 91 yards and interception. he had a nine QBR I mean it was a great win they won the game which is what he's supposed to do which is all I said but I did ask for your two cents you wouldn't want to start him again just to see where it goes next I mean look you're going nowhere this season you're 3-8 and you've got the Sean Watson there next year the 49ers have proven defensively that you can throw on them let's go so sure give him another week i i did find it interesting that uh you know in the red zone down on the goal line he came out of the game and they ran wildcat with quishon junket that was kind of interesting try something else man yeah you're just trying to get a win mr fanski is coaching jerry judy wide open and judy what was he doing yo i put that on twitter he's skipping a jump he thought he was levy on bell for a second like he's just hopping like I don't know.
20:04I think if you're Stefanski, you're really coaching for your job. So you should be trying everything to save it.
20:11Rich Eisen:If you're Kevin Stefanski, are you also saying, that giant job doesn't look too bad. I think he might want to get fired to go to New York. I'm just wondering, that giant job. Hey. That's not bad. Go Big Blue. But I also say this as someone unapologetically, I'm rooting for Shador, maybe Cleveland isn't the right place. for him. It doesn't seem like it's the right spot for anyone who plays quarterback. I also wouldn't mind seeing him going somewhere else and getting a shot. Yeah, exactly. Like the team he beat on Sunday. I didn't mean to go John Travolta there. With the shot! With the shot! The Raiders are going to need a quarterback next year.
20:50Rich Eisen:Judkins, Sampson, Fannin, Swechinger? They really hit on their rookie class. Who knows? Maybe they can turn it around. Nice. Let's take a break. We'll take your phone calls talk about the Raiders and more and so much for the Steelers leading that division, huh? The Ravens have officially, in fact, run them down. That's next. The Rich Eisen Show podcast.
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22:58Thank you.
22:59Rich Eisen:Appreciate your calling in. PJ, PJ, I didn't forget about you. Say hi to Mike. Say hi to Mike. We can't forget him. Dark side. Don't forget him. How you doing? How you doing? What's happening, my brother? How you doing? Good. Okay. So, Rich, you know, I respect your expertise, sir. Okay. I really do. Okay. Don't go off the bench here, sir, because it's been 21 years, and I've been a Redder fan since 82, and I'm tired. I bet. I'm tired. man. You know, right now, you guys are broadcasting on Ready Nation Radio here in Vegas. Yes, sir. You know, so this morning, the whole conversation has been about Chip, of course, how much authority, quote-unquote, he had on the offense.
23:43Yes. The JPJ issue about competition and him only being the one in competition. Nobody else on the team, for some odd reason, is in competition. But, yeah, I don't know, man. And, you know, I've seen a Pete get fired because of an OC. I've seen Josh McDaniels get fired for numerous reasons. But did Pete lose it? Just tell me.
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24:09Rich Eisen:No, I don't think he's lost it. I don't think he's lost it. Again, if you're saying to me that Chip Kelly was stunting competition within the roster and didn't want to play people or anything, that runs completely counter to all of Pete Carroll's mantras. that it doesn't matter where you are in the roster. If you're good enough to play, always compete. That's why Pete's gotten to the precipice of the Hall of Fame. So that would be surprising to me. They can't protect the quarterback. Dark side down, they cannot protect the quarterback. They cannot protect him. Ten sacks. That's my point. That's what I was going to get to.
24:47That's what I was going to get to. So you had JPJ. I'm sorry if I'm loud, but I'm in the room. You had JPJ. all season you've been having him compete at the guard position. Now remember, he came into the season at center. You had him competing for a guard position only for the guy that he was competing against to allow three sacks or however many, only for the guy that he was competing against to be on the offensive line that allowed 10 sacks yesterday. Hence, I'm not understanding what the Raider process has been for the last 20-plus years.
25:23Rich Eisen:Well, wouldn't you agree, Darkside, Don, wouldn't you agree that it isn't in line for a full rebuild? You know what I mean? Like that the roster needs, and again, they need to protect the quarterback. Geno Smith looks less than the quarterback that you never wrote back when everyone wrote him off. But I think anybody's going to look that way if they are not protected. And I appreciate the call, Darkside, Don. Thank you. I'm giving you a hug through the screen. everybody's going to look bad if you cannot protect now on the all 22 folks on on the socials are showing the like two-man routes that they're running you know where they're just running straight down the field when miles garrett is coming for their quarterback just two guys out in the route that's it because everyone else is into max protect and it's just two guys running straight you see that on film and it's like damn right you're gonna tell the offensive coordinator or hand in your playbook, we're done.
26:20And, you know, Pete fired his special teams coordinator, Tom McMahon,
26:26Rich Eisen:after the Week 10 loss in Denver where they came oh so close but lost because of a blocked punt gave Denver field position. And that's the first time that Pete ever fired an assistant in the middle of a season in his entire career, and he's done it now twice in a span of two and a half weeks, which is a sign of somebody usually, you know, thinking that something has to be done because his job could be on the line. I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. As I said yesterday, you know, last week, it still stands today. What does Tom Brady think? He's sitting there calling Eagles Cowboys.
27:05Rich Eisen:He's looking up at the screen during a commercial break, and he sees an update. oh my goodness it's 23 to 3 Cleveland's up by 20 points on us that's it what does it sit there and he thinks does he look at the film on the way back home on his flight back home what I have no idea how involved he is because it really is I'd imagine from Mark Davis hey Tom what do you think we should do because this was the plan the GM from your you know your Michigan ties and your your Tampa Bay ties. Doesn't help that Jacoby Myers scores a touchdown for the, you know, seven and four Jacksonville Jaguars. When you're struggling to get anything going on, Brock Bowers, his numbers are less than because he got hurt in week one.
27:52Rich Eisen:Just Ashton Gentry. We're waiting for him to have multiple breakout games this year, but you can't protect. You can't do anything. How can you evaluate?
28:02You know,
28:05Rich Eisen:I don't know what the answer is. At one and Dunning, Pete Carroll, is that the answer? In Las Vegas, Nevada? Starting from scratch again? Yeah, that's a whole new rebuild, right? What are we talking about? So, we'll see what the last six weeks looks like. Greg Olson, the quarterback coach, not the announcer. Wouldn't that be something? Tom Brady hires Greg Olson out of the booth. O-L-S-O-N. Yes. Not E-N. He's now the new O.C. and Vegas' next game is at the Chargers. And you know that's basically a home game for Raiders fans, habitually. And then they're home for Denver, at Philadelphia, at Houston.
28:46Rich Eisen:Good Lord, with a game against Kansas City to finish up after they take on a Giants team in Vegas. There's a lot of losses sitting out there unless they can pull it together. But they've got to protect. They've got to protect. It's that simple. That's where it all starts. Or somehow figure out a way to get Ashton. I'm wondering if Greg Olson's going to like, this kid is going to touch the ball 25 times. Hell or high water. He's been a lot more involved in the receiving aspect of the game. He did have eight catches, I think, yesterday. Well, I mean, can you run the ball appropriately if you're getting hit behind the line?
29:20Rich Eisen:No. Perfect example. The next-gen stats had Jonathan Taylor hit behind the line of scrimmage in 62.5 % of his carries yesterday. Yada, yada, yada. He didn't do anything.
29:34Rich Eisen:Let's go to David in Minnesota. You're here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, David? Dave. Hey, happy Thanksgiving, guys. Appreciate you all for having me on. You bet. Thanks for calling in. It's actually the last caller goes right into pretty much what I'm talking about, with Jimmy McCarthy currently at the Vikings. Can't protect him either. They cannot protect him at all, and this game is clearly one in the trenches. I love the fact that you guys are on board with all that. But the concerns I'm having, though, is that his efficiency is, you know, some of it's got to be on J.J. And his numbers are rapidly moving towards the Josh Rosen, Nathan Peterman.
30:16Rich Eisen:Oh, I know. Jamarcus Russell, there's a stat I saw that it's right around there, too. Yep. I believe the one you mentioned, I think it was 852 quarterbacks. He's 851st in EPA since 2000, only beating out DeMarcus Russell. I'll get to the point here, though. Sure. And that's two-parter. One, what percentage of the responsibility falls on J.J. versus, you know, the carousel he's had at offensive line, the lack of running game. And then two, if he does continue on this trajectory, you know, he's got to start the rest of the season. but do you start looking at a veteran quarterback and how many weeks next year do you give jj on that leash if he's not showing all great questions i do not know the answer to him i don't know what's inside kevin o 'connell's brain i do know kevin o 'connell came on this very show and said that habitually organizations fail young quarterbacks before it's the other way around is it possible he's thinking that this isn't working out i don't know i am not in the meeting rooms it would greatly surprise me if he if mccarthy's not grasping what he's being told um that you know and and again obviously i am biased because this guy won me a national championship and you can't just win national championship with guys that are totally clueless when you're playing for jim harbaugh um it doesn't help that he's like calling himself by his number nickname and then you know he's like an uncorked bottle of wine and people are it gives it gives uh gives people license to start making significant fun of you that and also basically say you can't talk your way into it or your way out of it David um so uh trust me I'm surprised with the struggles of it but offensive line is not protecting him that's part of it and and you know other part of it is he's he's airmailing people but in between it I don't know how closely you guys watch the game but he made one throw over the Packers defender, I think it was to Justin Jefferson, that when he let it go, it went through like four pairs of Packers hands just right over them, right into the hands of his receivers.
32:26Rich Eisen:It's in there, man. It's in there. They just need to find it more and then just understand like the rest of the team and kudos to also Justin Jefferson. He hasn't gone on anybody's Twitch feed and bitched and moaned. I'm sure he's doing it behind the scenes. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, but that's fine, though. He's not taking it public. But he's not taking it to the streets. Thanks for the call, David. Maybe he should. I don't know how that would be helpful. How would that be helpful? I mean, you don't think – you've met J.J. McCarthy. He's as mindful as they come. You don't think he hears all this stuff and it doesn't weigh on him.
33:01And it certainly, since, you know, the other two quarterbacks
33:07Rich Eisen:that were on the roster last year that they let go or walk or couldn't sign because they thought they didn't want to back up McCarthy or look over their shoulder and see when are they going to put the kid in here, have 16 combined wins right now. Eight each for Sam, Donald, and Daniel Jones. I don't have the answer for you, but I do know it's distressing. And, you know, one of the numbers I saw, too, is that the passer rating that he had yesterday of 34.2 is worse than if a quarterback took every snap in a game and spiked it. So these numbers do not help. It's like getting 200 points for writing your name on the SAT.
33:47Rich Eisen:So, you know, it does not help, but I do know they have the right coach. They just got to get some better protection. And we've seen it. We've seen it in fourth quarters. We've seen it in comebacks. It's his first division road loss of his career. He's won his two previous ones. They spent the whole offseason beefing up the offensive line. So it's odd that they're not working out. Well, at least this next week, JJ will have a nice, easy one without any comparisons to what they used to have. Wait a minute. They're at Sam Darnold? Okay. So it's going to ratchet up significantly. And that defense is so marauding, it makes the Green Bay defense that they just struggled against look like the proverbial cheesehead with holes in them.
34:34Rich Eisen:so right i think the last time seattle played at home uh was the one where demarcus lawrence had two returns for scores before halftime it's it's not looking good but this would be a good time for for to suddenly surprise everybody and come up with a big win season saving and also reputation saving because it's taking a beating right now and i don't like it because it's ohio state week and i want to be positive 844-204-RICH number to tell right here on the show there is news about Joe Burrow's readiness for Thanksgiving we'll get to that next right here on the Rich Eisen Show with the NFC, the AFC North now coming into a little bit clearer of a picture it's going to be a Donnybrook for the rest of the way ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance they make the claims process easy so you can get back on the road in no time it's why over 43 million drivers Trust Progressive.
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38:56That was about week six.
39:01on this overreaction Monday. Okay.
39:05Rich Eisen:All right, Mr. Chalk Through Week 6, Dylan in Vancouver. What do you want to get off your chest now? I am issuing a warning to all Colts fans. Call it a PSA for Miss Ursae. The Colts are not winning the AFC South. Oh, Brockman loves the cut of your jib. they just booked their ticket to the first wildcard game on Saturday versus the Baltimore Ravens. We're assuming the Colts still make the playoffs. Well, hold on a second. Hold on a second, Dylan. Let me help you out a little bit here because I've been around the block a few times here in the National Football League. If the Colts are on the road, that means they don't win the division, which means somebody else does in the AFC South, correct?
39:55Rich Eisen:because the AFC South will have to award a division winner. By rule, you have to award a division winner. That will be the first playoff game of wild card weekend, sir. Let's not kid one another. That 100 % is going to be. Although, the year that Doug Peterson and the Jaguars made it against the Chargers, that was a night game, was it not? That was a night game. It was. Okay, so it's not all cookie cutter. Listen, Dylan, the robbers meet in the road. I mean, this was, and please check out Overreaction Monday, the pod. It's out there. It's up there. It's in there. I like it. We're here. You're there.
40:35Rich Eisen:It's wide open because the Jaguars have yet to play the Colts, and the Texans have yet to play the Colts. Circle week 17, Rich. That's when we find out what's up, Trevor. Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir. Greatly appreciate it. Yeah. Well, the Colts have Houston at home next week. What's up, Trevor? They go to Trevor two weeks later. By the way, what's more all over the map than a guy from Vancouver wanting to talk AFC South football? Hey, that's literally all over the map. So the AFC South is absolutely wide open. Jacksonville coming up with a win in Arizona, despite four turnovers by Trevor Lawrence.
41:22Rich Eisen:the last time the Jaguars won a game with Trevor Lawrence turning it over that many times was the aforementioned overtime, the playoff game against the Chargers. When everyone's like, Peterson's got to pull him, right? He's got to pull him, right? He's got to bench him, right? Nope. Kind of felt like it. I know. That was wild. You know, but the Colts coming off that loss, that's two out of three the only one that they won in that span over the last month with their bye week included was the win in Berlin that Jonathan Taylor still is just I think he just scored again so and Houston that defense is all over the place that is going to be a tough game in Indianapolis tough game honorary captain TJ Yates will be there I believe started one of those playoff games yes sir I'll never forget that game.
42:23Rich Eisen:Thursday night football. Thursday night football. I interviewed Jim Irsay. May he rest in peace. He was kind enough to come on NFL Network and give us an interview that everybody wanted because we were all wondering, are you going to keep Peyton Manning? Because you have a chance at Andrew Luck right now with Peyton and that neck injury, and you have a decision to make. And he basically said, we love Peyton and we don't know what's going on around here. stay tuned and reggie wayne was also a free agent and all i know is i was there with irv marshall and mooch watching dan orlovsky hit reggie wayne for a touchdown to win that game and everyone's going nuts and they're gamers because everybody wears a gamer at lucas oil and we were looking down like you guys might have just cost yourselves andrew luck what are you celebrating.
43:19Rich Eisen:Yada, yada, yada. They got luck anyway, and they signed Reggie Wayne. Never know what's going to happen. TJ8 started that game for a Texans team that had already wrapped up the AFC South. You never know in that division, man. Is the general sense. Wild. Thanksgiving night, Bengals and Ravens. man it sure would have helped the uh bengals to have had joe burrow yesterday but with him coming back from his toe injury even though we were like all we are yes consulting we united we we we put we put a reputation on the line not good for res consulting we're like this guy's playing and zach taylor's like no he's not because i guess they're like with his toe being surgically repaired two games in five days no thanks we'll just save him up for the ravens we'll try and get past the Patriots with Joe Flacco.
44:14Rich Eisen:What ends up happening is Flacco throws a ball for T. Higgins hoping for the best. Higgins comes down. He's hurt. He's now out of the Thanksgiving game. So is Trey Hendrickson. He's now out. Jamar Chase though is coming back and so does it appear is Joe Burrow. I anticipate him playing but we'll continue to work through the week. I'm not going to declare that definitively. Work through the week. Coming off an injury. He's done everything he could. He put himself in a position to do his best to play yesterday. and we'll continue with that mindset. But he looks like he's in good shape right now.
44:46He'll be ready to go.
44:47Rich Eisen:Okie dokie. Oof. Okie dokie. Ravens are like, you sure? Just one more week. I mean, it's fine. You sure? We wouldn't mind Joe Flacco coming back here as a starting quarterback for an Ohio team for the second time this year. Because that happened, as we all know, in week two, and it did not go well for Cleveland. As a matter of fact, it was the only win the Ravens had in their first six contests this year, and they have now won five in a row. With Lamar Jackson not looking very good, to be very honest with you, second time in a row, he had no touchdown passes. By the way, wound up guillotining you and me because I took him from your team.
45:28Rich Eisen:Oh, are you getting... It's not looking good. As a matter of fact, it's 100%. Oh, no, Rish is out. Chopped like broccoli. Oh, kind of stinks, though. Not great, broccoli. you know the the text chain the i'll still be on it i don't mind responding listen uh the ravens have run it down five in a row now they have in fact because they're two and oh in division haven't beaten the uh bang the uh the browns twice that two and oh is better than the two and one in division for the steelers because the one time joe Flacco won as the quarterback for the Bengals in support of Joe Burrow in his six starts.
46:11Rich Eisen:He's one in five since the Bengals took a shot at acquiring him from Cleveland, thinking he's better than Jake Browning. The Steelers lost that game. They're two and one in division. So both at six and five now, the Ravens enter Thanksgiving night against the Bengals in first place in the AFC North. John Harbaugh had this to say after you know, they're not hanging this in the Louvre, if you will after beating the Jets with Lamar Jackson having zero touchdown passes for the second straight game utmost confidence in Lamar Jackson he's my guy he's our guy, he's our quarterback and Lamar's doing what he needs to do he's winning football games not always pretty I don't know how many times in the last however many years, we've had wins like this where we've gotten up here and said, you know, it's not pretty and it's not perfect, but it's us.
47:04You know, it's us competing and fighting, and that's what Lamar's doing. The pretty games will be there. They'll be there for Lamar Jackson. You can bet on that, but I'm proud of them right now. I'm really proud of them. The Ridge Eyes and Show Podcast. You can't reason with the sun. Trust us. We've tried. This summer, it's time to put that angry ball of fire on mute. Columbia's OmniShade technology is engineered to protect you from the sun's harsh rays that can burn and damage your skin. The sun is relentless, but so is our gear. Level up your summer at Columbia.com to spend more time outside and less time slathering on aloe lotion.
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Rich comments on Shedeur Sanders getting the win for the Cleveland Browns over the Las Vegas Raiders in his first NFL start, weighs in on the Pete Carroll firing OC Chip Kelly after falling to 2-9 on the season, and reacts to Vikings QB JJ McCarthy entering the Concussion Protocol after suffering through another tough week in Minnesota’s loss to the Green Bay Packers.
The guys discuss Joe Burrow’s return to the Cincinnati Bengals for their Thanksgiving Day game against Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens.
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