Hour 2: TNT’s Chris Webber, What’s More Likely

15:26Chris Webber:Great job by the other team of recognize because usually you would see it and be like wait I can't do it it's a split decision uh to make that pass and so I give them kudos for for making the pass but Nebraska getting to you know from their first win in the NCAA to uh making the sweet 16 they got a lot to be you know proud about but I'm sure it'll take a couple days for them to recognize that yeah Iowa against Illinois

15:51Rich Eisen:they were gonna there's there's three big 10 teams already in and then there's our alma mater and Michigan State tonight to maybe get them through. Michigan State-UConn is going to be awesome. What a game that's going to be, Chris.

16:02Chris Webber:It's going to be incredible. And just to give kudos to the Big Ten, I mean, you know, I've heard a lot about all the other conferences, you know, and it's great. And you want that, you know, parody and conferences, but you also want those bragging rights. And for the Big Ten to really show up, you know, like they did, especially to the Sweet 16, having so many teams, I think it speaks to the competition and hopefully it gives respect in years coming up because it just seemed like it was top heavy other years. And now, you know, it seems to go real deep. But, you know, Michigan State, that's going to be a dogfight against UConn.

16:39Chris Webber:I would say the genius of Izzo is how his teams play. And if you notice anything, they're going to control the boards. Whoever controls the boards in this game wins, period. That's the one stat that I would look at. It's the one stat that's been telling all of these years with Michigan State, even when they had great teams like a 2000 team with Mateen Cleaves and those guys, they still were dogs on the board. And that's what I mean about a mentality of a team from a Houston maybe, you know, their mentality was defense. Well, you know, Michigan State is valuable possession, scoring the ball, getting on the fast break.

17:20Chris Webber:but they are not going to give you a second shot, and they are going to get second shots. And, you know, he called it point guard you, you know. Of course, I can say that since I have what I have on. I can honor that a little bit more. I try to go around that. But when you have, you know, a point guard like that, when you had, you know, the Johnsons, the Cleaves, you know, you can try to claim that. And he's trying to use that energy to get to the next level so I can't fault that. But that's going to be a great game. But UConn, they're no joke. They're going to be coached well. They're going to play well.

17:56Chris Webber:And I love their style of, you know, we're going to shoot it until the lights go out. And you have to battle that mentality as well. So it's going to be a good one.

18:05Rich Eisen:That's interesting. You mentioned Johnson. Obviously, Magic, Chris. I'll go here. This is going to be fun because we're both Michigan guys, right? It seems like Jeremy Fears has a penchant for hitting people in the Johnsons, Chris, you know? Am I, did I get that right? And if you're, and if you're UConn, you're going to want to, you're going to try and get in that kid's grill tonight.

18:27Chris Webber:Yeah, why are you going to pull me in that? Because I was going to say Draymond does. Oh yeah. But now you just pull me in.

18:34Rich Eisen:I tried, I talked about it with Izzo in a very nice way, the best possible way, because I respect him. I got him to at least admit I'm 1A in terms of his favorite Michigan man ever. But I mean, it's in all seriousness, like with UConn tonight, You want to get in that kid's grill and make them do something silly if that's possible. You know what?

18:54Chris Webber:I would say you're 100 % right. But I would say just like Draymond, they may have a reputation because maybe it's happened before. But it's not something I would bet on and use as a strategy because they're smarter than that. You know, usually the game's out of hand or usually the game's out of hand one way or the other. I expect him to come in and be the great leader that he's been. We saw Coach Izzo address that early in the season. And what I love is the growth. You know what I mean? So for me, you're exactly right. That's what the other team should do. But I'd be a little leery of that, having seen the growth of him and the impact he has on his team.

19:35Chris Webber:I mean, he can score 25 or we've seen him not score and just dominate, assist, getting other guys open. So what do you do? Do you take him out the game offensively? And then he's going to get other guys a wide open shots, or do you just let him score? And it's going to be a problem that way, too. So to me, that young man, you know, really is the floor general, the head of the snake, so to speak. And so you really have to keep your eyes on him. Trying to frustrate him is great, but, you know, I see more of him frustrating the other team by getting in the paint, getting M1s, hitting tough shots, and getting the crowd involved.

20:12Rich Eisen:Chris Weber here on the Rich Eisen Show. And I'm going to have some fun with you here on this one with Duke and St. John's this evening. I had Carlos Buzer on yesterday, and I just love that guy and obviously his kids and the story of his children and him and his relationship and his family. It's all good. But when it comes down to it, it's about that block M that you have there on your chest there. And, you know, Brockman, you dragged it out of me. I told him, like, it was difficult to watch Michigan and go eight on five against Duke earlier back in February. This was a headline in the Athletic New York Times.

20:47Rich Eisen:Is hating Duke basketball falling out of style? I found that interesting. Chris, do you want to chime in on that? Because I have some thoughts on it.

20:59Chris Webber:Is hating on Duke falling out of style? It's funny. I'm interviewing Grant Hill for my podcast coming up. And so I'm definitely going to ask him. He's a young man that I've known since 12 years old. And so it was easy to hate Duke that much more with him, even though I really liked him. Yes. I think, you know, oh, man, you know, certain things, you know, popcorn at the movies.

21:34Chris Webber:hot dog barbecue on the 4th of july you know uh presents under the tree at christmas that's another one yeah and hating duke yes you know i mean those are traditions right that's correct that's what you need to do research like who wrote that and i just mean They can have their own opinion, but how old are they? You know, what region of the country did they grow up in? Yep.

22:02Rich Eisen:I don't know who this Chris Vanini is, but he didn't reach out to me for this conversation. Nor you, apparently. We were unavailable for comment. Of course we're available for comment on this subject matter. I'm available. I'll tell you what.

22:15Chris Webber:That's 100 % not true. So I don't know.

22:19Rich Eisen:It is 1 ,000 % still in style. I agree with you. Although Grant Hill was kind of like the, even for Yankee haters, Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, you know, like, in all honesty, I don't hate Tatum for the Celtics. There are some people who are just like not hateable. Right. You know, like they're kind of above that. Grant Hill was kind of above that fray. Sure. But then they would just drag him down to his level, you know?

22:47Chris Webber:Yeah. Grant outlasted it. You're right. Yeah. And so that was one opinion. But Shane Battier played with my brothers, David and Jason, in high school. They all won three state championships together, right? Okay. And I loved him until he went to Duke, and I hate him today because he went to Duke.

23:08Chris Webber:So it can't change your opinion. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

23:11Rich Eisen:That's really funny. It will always be in style, just like presents on Christmas Day on the tree. I get you. Barbecue on the 4th. I see you. I see you. You're the best, man. Your pod, how can people get it, Chris? Just wherever you get your pods, pretty much?

23:28Chris Webber:Oh, man, wherever you get your pods. But, you know, hopefully next week we can talk about it. I have a little more information for you. But when you talked about Grant, I'm getting, you know, some stuff together and, you know, some good stuff. And so I'm definitely going to bring this survey up because I don't think he believes that. I don't think he believes that the hate is leaving from how, you know, I've been with him and people are yelling out, you know, doing stuff. On what planet? Is this Earth?

23:51Rich Eisen:You're kidding me. No, listen, Shires, good dude. What he's doing right now is unbelievable. Obviously, the Boozers, I get it, but it's still Duke. Enough, enough. Go Blue, sir. Hey, Rich. Oh, you got one more?

24:05Chris Webber:Yeah, just a quick question, Chris. What up, man? I'm thinking every time you come on, I'm going to have just some random thing to ask you. But I thought about this morning. When athletes are in the middle of doing something, maybe they don't know they're doing something iconic, right? you guys the fab five i think you knew at that moment what you guys were doing for the culture and everything was iconic as it was happening and i'm thinking about today's kind of world where collectibles are so big and i don't know why i thought about this this morning but like were you able did you keep any of that fab five gear maybe uh the harachis or you know the the uniforms or any of that stuff did you have enough like foresight to see that man maybe we

24:44Rich Eisen:should like keep some of this stuff at that.

24:47Chris Webber:You know what? I, I, my father, thank God, you know, he's somebody that's kept everything. So as soon as I get a trophy, some, I would give it to him, you know? And so, uh, yeah, I found some, some shoes. I found like some shirts and things like say we were at a charity event, you know, uh, I do. And I cherish them. You know, I love collectibles. Behind me is the 50 greatest players there, and I was lucky enough to be in Cleveland, you know, there with it. But I do want to correct you on something. I don't think that those that have iconic moments know that it's happening, unless it's like a countdown and it's three more home runs, or, you know, eight more hockey goals.

25:34Chris Webber:Because at the whole time we were trying to accomplish something, And so our whole motto or our whole way of life or where we're from, how we grew up, what we had seen around us was more like we have an opportunity to prove something. Let's change it. You know, this is us. Let's be unique. Let's stay who we are. And so the older I get, the more I respect it because we didn't know it. You know, like our freshman year, we didn't have a TV in the dorm. So, you know, when people said things to us, it resonated a little bit more. Because I think sometimes what takes away from some iconic moments is like maybe the inauthenticity of it because, you know, it's coming.

26:17Chris Webber:So I feel that. You know what I mean? So that's that's one thing I really honor. But it's like we can be cool. We can be all this. But we did not know, which kind of gave us the power because if we would have known, we have, you know, been any other way.

26:31Rich Eisen:Interesting answer. How about that for an answer? Although, TJ, be honest, you were hoping he's like, oh, I have a pair of shorts right here. I mean, yeah. You were hoping he'd do that. I was kind of hoping, yeah. Oh, wait a minute. And he'd hold up a pair of shorts. Oh, he's looking. No? They have a pair of shorts right here. You know what?

26:47Chris Webber:Next week, I'm going to have something for you. Okay, great. Come on there, TJ. Great.

26:50Rich Eisen:Next week, you'd hold up a pair of shorts that he'd hold it up here, and then the shorts would go down on the screen. Well, I was thinking maybe he'd stand up and they'd have him on. take care of yourself I'll reach out to you tonight certainly if a Michigan win happens at the same time as the St. John's wins we'll talk about that headline everybody check out Chris Weber's podcast interview with Grant Hill lots to talk about right here on the Rich Eisen Show awesome stuff as always with Chris Weber C. Webb you always love asking him some facts I do man And look, like I said, I'll have a question for him every time he's on randomly.

27:32Rich Eisen:You never know the answer. Last time he was on, he told a story about how he and the rest of Fab Five met with Muhammad Ali before a game in Atlanta. You know what I mean? You know, it's funny.

27:42Chris Webber:He said, and I get that, you know, the early 90s, there was no internet. There was no social media. Right. So maybe they didn't know. But like from the outside looking in, like people who weren't Michigan fans necessarily. Oh, yeah. Like I said, I went to Foot Locker before I started working there. I bought two of those yellow outfits. I mean, people were rocking this.

28:01Rich Eisen:We knew they were iconic back then, even though, like you said, he didn't quite know. I love it, and I appreciate that, but I must say, it's Mays. Yeah, I'm sorry. Not yellow. Mays and blue. Don't roll your eyes at me. My bad. Don't roll your eyes. It's called tradition. Oh, and Duke people are annoying. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop it. Is that Pella helmet? Is that Mays? No, that is yellow. That is canary yellow. Yeah, it's canary yellow. How do you know that? It's a type of mold. Although Pella is mold free, may I say? Sorry. What the hell is your issue? Take a break. We're back with more here on the Rich Eyes Show.

28:41Rich Eisen:Maze and blue. Maze and blue. Maze and blue. I didn't want to sound conceited.

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30:58Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Guys and Show, 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. All right. Let's take Jimmy in San Antonio's phone call. What's up, Jimmy?

31:09Chris Webber:Hey, Jimmy. Vamos, hermanos.

31:12Rich Eisen:What's going on, sir? Hola, muchacho.

31:15Chris Webber:Well, okay, so I'm guessing Susie's not there. Jimmy. You know she's not here. I'm here. I'm here. Excuse me. You've been listening and watching. Jimmy, first of all. She might be in the background.

31:26Rich Eisen:First of all, Jimmy, you know she's not here. But you know she's always present on this program. Okay? And certainly when you call in.

31:35Chris Webber:That might be the reason you haven't been nominated this year is because there's not enough Susie. Maybe that's true.

31:42Rich Eisen:Maybe that's true. I have to change it. I do believe next year's Emmy reel will include the segment where she could not understand why a bald man would be the sexiest sex-in-the-city boyfriend on a list. not a great moment for me but a great moment for the show I should also let you know all three children have seen that segment what did you say your children are miracles they are miracles and I think they appreciated being called as such alright Jimmy now that the restraining order has been put in place what do you have for me

32:23Chris Webber:I have an objection your honor first of all C Webb as a Duke fan. He was my favorite of the fab five by far. And he's the coolest. I always appreciate it when you have him on. Yep.

32:37Rich Eisen:Me too. I, I'm, I consider myself really fortunate. Um, cause I, I, you know, obviously he and the rest of the fab five on the heels of winning it all in 1989, um, put Michigan on a different map, on a much more swag-filled map that I think still resonates today.

33:01Chris Webber:Yeah, but it didn't resonate so much in 92.

33:04Rich Eisen:All right, Jimmy. This is why we talk about Duke being hated, Jimmy. You know? Why are you a Duke fan? Why are you a Duke fan, may I ask?

33:13Chris Webber:Oh, Johnny Dawkins. That's why TJ and I can be Duke brothers.

33:19Rich Eisen:I hated them back then. I didn't like Duke until Grand Hill got there. What else is on your mind, bud?

33:27Chris Webber:Well, I have a question about the bracket challenge, the Rich Eisen show one.

33:32Rich Eisen:Yeah, where are we on that, I guess, Chris? Would you mind calling it up for men and women?

33:36Chris Webber:I am ranked 162nd with 95.2 PCT, which is probably higher than your Uber ranking.

33:45Rich Eisen:It certainly is. I did not get any, I believe, of my so-called upsets right. So my bracket. But I'm still alive with three of my final four. Still alive. All right. So currently Big Cheeto is in first place. Big Cheeto. They don't have a high max, only 1560, but they have Arizona winning it all. So I imagine that would help them. Good shape. The ones right behind them, just 10 points back. Perfect bracket. ESPN fan 0580177240. They have Michigan. Let's see. By the way, that's not a bot that you get. If you don't fix your team name by calling it something, it's assigned by you by the site. Whoever's tied for second has Iowa.

34:39Rich Eisen:Someone does have Iowa. Well, that would be. They would take the cake if that happens. No doubt. No doubt. A couple others in the top ten have Arizona. A lot of Michigans up there. Okay. We'll see. A lot of Mays, M's are up there. Thank you, Beverly.

34:56Chris Webber:I took Arizona as my final winner, like a lot of people. So I think I'm not going to get above 50th if I'm lucky.

35:04Rich Eisen:All good, Jimmy. But thanks for the call, Matt. 1 ,400th place. Arizona, the most popular pick in our group, 30%. That was Jimmy in San Antonio, one of our favorites. I'm 1 ,281 right now. Okay, so here's what we're going to do. Not the worst. We come back, we're going to play What's More Likely. Then we welcome in Kevin Malah. Malah. Okay. Then we'll talk about the NBA's anti-tanking concepts. I'm curious about our conversation because those seem like good ideas. Okay. If you haven't seen them. I will hit on that. And then more phone calls. 844-204-RICH being the number to dial. Oh, John Spitek has spoken.

35:41Rich Eisen:And I believe we have some more NFL conversations to be had, right? I think we were talking about it before the show, that there's still lots up in the air, draft conversations and things like that. But John Spitek has chimed in the general manager of the Raiders, fresh sound, if you will, on the Max Mosby situation, which is the way that we always shorthand talking about things in the sports world. the what's more likely situation when we come back.

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37:48Chris Webber:What? What's More Likely. Never say never, but never.

37:53Rich Eisen:All right, Christopher, What's More Likely presented by Pella Windows and Doors. You have the floor. What do you got over there? Hey, happy Friday, everybody. Fella, we got four football, and then we'll take it home with a hodgepodge. Okay, what do you got? All right, first up, more likely that Ty Simpson goes in the first round or Jeremiah Love slips out of the top ten. Oh, come on, man. It's more likely that Ty Simpson's a first-rounder. Jeremiah Love slipping out of the top ten will have to require something about his personal life that nobody would expect or I don't believe exists. That's the fact.

38:31Rich Eisen:Or he gets hurt. you know how they some how you hear like oh as i keep telling it the reason why everybody in the nfl calls the draft prospect to say we're drafting you isn't for a viral moment or anything like that i was told long time ago it's to make sure that the prospect is healthy and hasn't like tripped and fallen i'm serious that's wild ty simpson being drafted in the first round i know I said yesterday that I don't see it because right now there's no trade for it. Right now it's everyone's like well the Jets took him out to dinner after his pro day and then had a private there's a private workout today.

39:15Rich Eisen:Today. Right. That's 16th overall. And I'm not saying the Jets won't take him because he's not a first round draft choice. I'm saying they got a first round draft choice in next year's draft from Dallas when they could have gotten it in this year's draft and they specifically chose next year's draft because there's more quarterbacks in it so they're just going to pivot the rams have stafford now 13th overall i know they had one it deep down but that now belongs to the chiefs because they traded him for trent mcduffie 13th overall for him don't see it will the steelers take him possibly bottom line is I could see somebody trading into the back of the first round for him.

40:01Rich Eisen:I don't see Jeremiah Love dropping out of the top 10. What else you got over there? Yesterday, Tom said something kind of interesting about the Raiders, about Fernando Mendoza, maybe not actually being the week one starter. That was kind of, you know, a little eyebrow raising. More likely quarterback to not be a week one starter. Fernando Mendoza or Aaron Rodgers? I'll go Fernando Mendoza. I think Rodgers is playing again. And I think that the Steelers are being coy because there's a reason to. They're keeping the door open for him. I don't know if June is the time. Who knows what's going on? I know.

40:39Rich Eisen:I feel like it's every year. It's so crazy how he mirrors pretty much everything about Favre's career. You know? Everything about Favre's career. since being the guy who had to wait for Favre to leave for him to get his shot. It's unreal that we're now in the waiting game, is he not, like we did with Favre after he went to the Jets, just like Favre. It's crazy. Fernando Mendoza sitting week one because the Raiders want to give him time to marinate? Far more likely than I think Rodgers saying I'm retired. And because Tom Brady's starting. Got it. What else she got over there? Guys, more likely to start week one for the Cleveland Browns.

41:25Rich Eisen:Miles Garrett or Deshaun Watson? Deshaun Watson. I think both will. I think both will. But it all depends on if the Browns get their rule passed that they can ask for five first-rounders for Garrett instead of just three. Right. So you're thinking Miles Garrett might get traded, Chris? I'm saying let's keep an eye out. Listen, there's a reason why the Browns said, we'll give you more money up front in your remaining years. Yeah, it makes the contract. But you need us to push a roster bonus or a bonus in your contract to September, closer to September. Why would they do that? I mean, it's bookkeeping.

42:03Rich Eisen:I don't know. But it's also like we don't pay you now. Let the next team pay you. Yep. We're going to keep our options open for you. Certainly, if we're going to ask for five first-rounders for you or four. It just feels like the wind horse given. Yeah, but Deshaun Watson, guys, Deshaun Watson's starting week one for the Browns. I kind of think so. Please. They're paying him. They've paid him all this time to wait for him. I know. He's going to be back. And he needs to play for various reasons, personally, professionally, but also the Browns could use having him out there to pay him to play as opposed to rehab.

42:45Rich Eisen:What else over there? We were talking about this yesterday and kind of throughout the week about who might open on Wednesday this coming fall for Seattle. I saw Patrick Mahomes throw in this week. We did. More likely Seahawks kickoff opponent Bears or Chiefs. Bears. Bears. We discussed it the other day. You know what my answer is going to be on this. You don't think if Mahomes is healthy, let's just put Chiefs out there. He has to be healthy by May. Because that's when, or not even May. Like later on next month, because that's when rubber really meets the road and stuff gets real for the commissioner to have to consider.

43:27Rich Eisen:Placed in front of the commissioner's face for consideration to approve the schedule. Schedule makers need to know by at least late April, early May in order to have that as the opening game. I don't see Chiefs at Seahawks. I don't, although that would be like the last one, man. You know, that would be last ride. No, I know that, but it would also be some of the, what would you say? Two of the last three champions, right? Of the decade. So, but it's the Bears, man. Walker return game. Kenneth Walker return game. It's going to be the Bears. More likely. By the way, in case you're wondering, I have this fact right here.

44:11Rich Eisen:They played in only one other kickoff game. 2019, they kicked it off against the Packers. I don't know why that took place, but it did. Oh, it's the anniversary. It's like the... Oh, that's right. It was the anniversary. That's right. Yeah, rivalry. That's correct. What else? Let's talk about NBA now. A more likely team that would shock you. These two teams played this week, TJ. Possible finals preview. More team that would shock you if they don't make the finals. Thunder or Celtics? Thunder. With all due respect to you and your Boston-centric way of looking at life. Thunder. Come on. Take offense to that.

44:44Rich Eisen:You should. That's the way it was intended. I meant to take you. Literally the last two NBA. Come on, man. The Thunder. Get out of here. Last two champions. What else you got over there? More likely to win the national championship, Arizona or the field. I'll go Arizona. I mean, Duke's part of the field. I'll go Arizona the way that they're killing everyone right now. Duke's part of the field. Yeah, so I'm going to take the field. Well, the field, just in case anybody's wondering, The field currently is Iowa State, Tennessee, Alabama, Purdue, Duke, St. John's, Michigan State, UConn, Illinois, and Iowa.

45:20Rich Eisen:That's the field. Wow. You're missing a team. Which team am I missing? More likely, star who flopped on opening day that you're most concerned about. Oh, God. Paul Skeens or Aaron Judge?

45:36Rich Eisen:This is actually a good question. Flopped. I mean, on opening day. Well, going 0-4 and then getting pulled before the first inning. I'm concerned about neither, and I don't care that this is not the way the game is played. It's all right. You can say the man on the right. What are you talking about? Wow. I'm not concerned about either one of them. You are? Seriously. Concerned about both. Who's concerned about him? You? Both. Lieutenant Weinberg? Yeah. I'm not concerned about Skeens. I mean, he went up against the Mets. We're formidable. It's not. I'm concerned about schemes. I really am. Is it more likely the Dodgers set the wins record or one of our teams win 100 games?

46:15Rich Eisen:I'll go one of our teams win 100 games. Because right now my team's on pace to win 162 games. 125, right? No, no, no. One team went 125 and 50. The team went 125 and 50, including the playoffs in the World Series. We're not including that. That'll be the Yankees. That'll be the 98 Yankees, which is the the threshold, which won't be beaten this year. That's what's more likely. Brought to you by Pella Windows and Doors. When it is coming down to you and your home, Pella Windows and Doors always have the winning game plan. That's why your neighbors trust them. Visit Pella.com slash Eisen. Alright, Chris Brockman, trying to box me in multiple times right there, and I got right out of it.

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