Hour 2: Tomlin’s Coaching Future Debate, plus Rob Lowe In-Studio

0:00Rich Eisen:From 30 for 30 podcasts.

0:09Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami, gunned down. The key to this case, it's Brian. An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody. This might be a hit. You want the truth. They just want a conviction being placed under arrest.

0:26Rich Eisen:We had a killer amongst us. Murder at the U. Listen now. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. The Giants, they sent a jet for John Harbaugh. This is the Rich Eisen Show. If you're flying your candidate via PJ, you want his... The Rich Eisen Show.

1:11Rich Eisen:Jay Hancock on a piece of paper. Earlier on the show, ESPN college football analyst Josh Pate. Coming up, actor Rob Lowe, senior writer for the MMQB, Albert Breer. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Rob Lowe's in our green room, everybody. I'm just going to lead with the headline for hour number two. I saw him. It's always a delight having him here, man. It really is. You can go in any pop culture direction with him. And he's here on behalf of On Location, the global leader in premium experiences, hospitality, and travel for the world's biggest sporting events. The Super Bowl is included in that. That's just in.

1:55Rich Eisen:That's not the headline. I think everybody knew that. so Rob's going to the Super Bowl on location and I guess he wants to talk about how you can do so as well I mean we'll be there we will be you won't be at the Super Bowl unless the Patriots make it and then I think Michael Irvin by the way if the Patriots make the Super Bowl I may need to make up the same meme as Michael Irvin for your family members did you text him? I did and he responded I don't know if we have that did I send that to you yet no no that was the tweet I'm just saying that was probably what he sent you back no he sent you something he's crying emoji we were looking for tickets I'm plus three I got three crying emojis I don't know if it was that means we're in that means one of us is in that means I'm out sorry Feli No, I'm plus three.

2:56Rich Eisen:Yes, you got it. Those are the three. Okay. They're even bald. Let's go. I did say to him that I had Josh paid on in hour number one, and he's concerned about the number of credentials for Miami greats. That is yet to receive a response. Okay. I'm good, Rich. Yeah. Rich is going, you know, Mike's going to be in. What is the hierarchy? Is Irv one?

3:20Rich Eisen:Because he predates Ray, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah. I'm too tired to get him with these hairs. Yeah. Right. I think he predates Ray. He definitely predates Ed Reed. Yeah. Oh, he's, yeah, I mean, he goes way back. He's got the Jimmy. But I'm sure there's some Howard Schnellenberger people around there saying, wait a minute. I guess. We're in front of you. So some of the top ten Miami Hurricanes, Chuck Foreman, running back from the Vikings. Like if Jim Kelly wanted to know. Andre Johnson. No, I mean, you could, yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, Jim Kelly's from the Howard Schnellenberger. I mean, Gino, I mean.

3:54Rich Eisen:Toretta? What, a Heisman? I love that. Every single time I see him on the Heisman House commercials, I text Marshall Falk saying, where are you? No, I don't. But I did come up with that idea with Marshall about having a Heisman runner-up house. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Right? Because that would arguably be more talented than the Heisman House. That's a bold statement, Richard. You look at the Heisman runner-up house. I'm going to go back to 1990. Take a look at the Heisman runner-up house. Okay. And I understand the Heisman's a college award in the same way that the MVP is the regular season award, and it doesn't matter what they've done after college.

4:33Rich Eisen:But if you include after college, I think the Heisman runner-up house, it's close. 90 runner-up was Rocket Ismael. Okay. 91, Casey Weldon, not as good. 92 is Marshall. 93, Heath Shuler. 94, Kajana Carter. 95, Tommy Frazier. Steve McNair was third in 94. Troy Davis. I think you could say runners-up house. Peyton Manning was second. Because when you look at some of the third place guys, you've got Jim Harbaugh in 86. You've got Aikman came in third. The Heisman runners-up house. Major Harris. Michael Vick was third. And Drew Brees was fourth. Which one throws a better party? Good question. Ryan Leaf was third.

5:19Rich Eisen:Depends on what year. Jabriz was 30, Daniel Tomlinson was 4 Eli, Manning Eli, Matt Minard We digress Let's go to David in Ohio Phone call from David in Ohio Here on the Rich Eisen Show, what's up David? What's up Dave? David, you there? I'm just like, I can fix your name Oh my lord He's on hold and not knowing I tried man, everybody when you're calling in You know, head on a swivel Turn your radio down Radio down, television down Let's give David in Ohio one more shot. You there, David? Yes, I am. What's up, David? Hey, Rich. I got a comment for you on the Mike Tomlin situation. Okay. I'm really sad that he's gone, and, you know, he brought a Super Bowl to us.

6:10But I really think Ben Roethlisberger might be a good head coach next year.

6:15Rich Eisen:Oh, my goodness. David in Ohio. Whoa. you want higher register you really think Ben Roethlisberger would be the the the good replacement for Mike Tomlin David yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I think he would be great well speaking on behalf of everyone thank you for the call David and everyone in the media that would be wild that would set records in terms of hot takes that would set records in terms of the Roonies zagging as opposed to doing their usual once every generation zig looking for a head coach. It would be great media availability. The Ben Roethlisberger coaches show would be must listen and see.

6:55Rich Eisen:Can you imagine? That would be great. Throw deep. What are we going to do? Here's the offensive play. We're just going to fade back, then let the quarterback be hit, then run around forever and make a Hall of Fame play. Somebody get open. And on occasion, we'll throw for 500 yards. That's what we'll do in a game. Throw deep, baby. That's it. very good dk mackett's running around i'll get it how about that one right there that was uh didn't expect that one from dad i'm glad i'm glad i got david ohio another shot right there so uh you know now that john harbaugh is about to be named the next head coach the new york giants i do have a couple friends are like why didn't we wait for mike tomlin i'm like i i just don't know if tomlin's going to be coaching this year we talked about it with jerry dulac we heard from uh art rooney the second yesterday that that that tomlin's given an indication that he's not planning on coaching this year you have to figure um what is he going to do this year if he doesn't um if he does have a place in the uh public eye uh in football nfl media it would be interesting since he's the king of i'm blocking out the outside noise the outside noise means nothing to us in this building that he would then leave coaching to be part of the outside noise it would be an interesting twist plot twist and old Henry like plot twist he'd be great at it if all of the drops that we have of him talking about not knowing what's in the hot dog and if his aunt had male parts she'd be my uncle all that sort of stuff from him uh his response to uh are you interested in the USC head coaching job because they're interested in you and uh he his response was uh I'll say never but never that one he'd be great at it i i think he'd be great if he could um master the art of getting in and out uh of um a broadcast in between plays he'd be an incredible live game analyst to say this is what we did that's what we did back in the day this is what i think this team should do that's not a penalty i remember when i was on the competition committee he'd be incredible at being a game analyst if he gets down the cadence of speaking concisely i think he could get that because he's a wordsmith i think he'd be better as a studio guy i don't know man i think he'd be great in the middle of a game and brady's become exactly that right now and his passion would come through uh the broadcast um and then he could lord over the coaching hiring process every single team would be like what what about Tomlin because next year he'd be 54.

9:42Rich Eisen:I mean that is a great age for a coach you've been there you've done that you could still be there and do that unreal opportunity for Mike Tomlin about choosing where he wants to coach and that is what happened with Bill Cowher when he left the Steelers and he went to CBS and every single year there was a coaching opening it would be like is Calder interested and he would keep saying no and he's still sitting on the CBS set since 2007 by the way and he never went back to coaching and that may happen for Mike Tomlin too which would stun me somebody who knows Mike Tomlin Rondae Barber And he knows Mike Tomlin because he was in the secondary that Tomlin was coaching up in Tampa Bay back in the day.

10:41Rich Eisen:Rondé Barber, when you're a Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee, you get to choose who puts the jacket on you in the jacket ceremony. Night before, you get your bust, you make your speech, you get your jacket at a special ceremony in downtown Canton. and now what they've asked you to do with the pro football hall of fame is choose any current hall of famer to put the jacket on you when barber went in they were still saying you choose whoever you want he chose mike tomlin to put the jacket on him as a matter of fact i saw tomlin at that um after that ceremony and he was cracking a beer open with bill cower and i very rarely do i ever wanted to just snap a picture of a moment um but i really wanted to and just show that to all my stealer friends like hey this is happening right now not post it could you imagine but anyway long story short i say this to set up that ron day what you're about to hear from him if anybody would know he'd be at the top of the list he thinks tomlin might be done coaching period hit it Mike's a friend, man.

11:56Rich Eisen:He's like family to me. We vacation every year, and there's a lot of stories out there about Mike coming up and wanting to take one year off and go coach. I'm going to tell you right now, dude, I think he's done. I think he wants to be done. Last year, I was in Long Island with him, and he told me then. He said, I think this is my last year. He didn't say anything to anybody else for the entire year. Wow. on the Rondé Barber show. Hmm. So believe it. That's no joke. Could you imagine if Mike Tomlin is done, done, like done, done? That would stun me too. He just strikes me as a guy who loves to do this.

12:47Rich Eisen:He loves the challenge is what he says. And I do believe what he says. I don't think that's an act by any stretch of the imagination. but for him to be sitting you know what we're talking the hamptons what we're talking about long island probably probably if you're summer vacationing in long island not bad um that he's like i think this is my last year then he's definitely thinking about stuff that he doesn't share with a lot of people certainly not on his sleeve certainly not in press availabilities but you're not hearing his name for any of these cycles I mean I kept saying throughout this process that the Giants have a job opening and the family that the Giants sit next to at the owners meeting every year are the Roonies they are tight and if there's anybody that could call him up and say what about Mike it would be them and they just continued on with John Harbaugh who they think might be a better fit i don't know doing it all out there if he never coaches again is mike tom on a hall of famer i think so yeah i think so i mean the same issues that um cower had getting the steelers to the winner's podium um he won once let me see how many coaching wins because that does stuff does matter here I have the list open right here.

14:20Rich Eisen:Mike Tomlin is 10th on the all-time coaching list with 193 regular season wins. The same number as Chuck Knoll. I mean, yeah, he's definitely getting it. Bill Cowher had 149 career wins. Mike Tomlin's 193. Win percentage? Win percentage 628, which is better than Chuck Knoll's, better than Schottenheimer's. just right behind Curly Lambeau better than Tom Landry's 628 also better than John Harbaugh's Sean McVay, Harbaugh I mean I don't know if just the one ring came in his second season Oh I hear it all he had Dick LeBeau as his defensive coordinator, he had Bill Cowher's team and all that's whatever man Ben Roethlisberger, let me just put it Ben Roethlisberger was a young game manager that when Tomlin came in, it was a totally different ball of wax for him.

15:23Rich Eisen:It was just like, hey, kid, I know you were just a kid with Bill, but you're the guy here. I mean, I could go on and on and on and on and be accused of caping for him again, but I think so for sure. For sure. He's 10th on the all-time coaching list. Sean Payton is going to pass him because it doesn't look like he's going anywhere. Sean's got 184. Harbaugh's got 180. In terms of active guys. Alan Dallas, you're here on the Rich Eyes Show. What's up, Al? Are you ecstatic or what, buddy?

16:00Rich Eisen:You there, Al? Yeah, there is joy in East Rutherford. Right? I mean, I am ecstatic. Ecstatic. This is finally it happened for us. Wow. I'm pretty shocked. You need to take a seat? You need a drink out? I mean, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. You know, my biggest concern right now is, you know, the Super Bowl in 2027 is right down the road from your office. So I'm wondering whose couch I'm crashing on. Oh, wow. Now you sound like Brockman. I got you out. Well, Brockman, listen, Brockman said 11 and 6. Let's go, Al. You know, let's go. Come on, baby. Let's go. Brockman, you got room? I can sit there. I can cuddle with the dog.

16:47Oh, my God. Feller offered up the couch. I got you, Al. I know my man, TJ. I know I can chill with him. I mean, we'll just, you know. You must not watch your couch, Jay.

16:59Rich Eisen:Yeah, clearly. Yeah, unless, Al, unless it's going against the Patriots and Wandale Robinson is getting ready to pin a football on his helmet, try and beat New England, Al. Yeah, but listen, this never happens to us. I mean, this is a monumental signing to the likes of when George Young took over the organization. Like, this is how big this is. This is huge. Because it started the trajectory of the Bill Parcells and started this whole thing. I mean, we have been just flopping around since Tom Coughlin. And now we have an adult in the room. And now I can stop talking about them, Rich. You know, there's so many things going on in sports, and all I do is call you guys about the Giants.

17:45I'm sick and tired of talking about the Giants.

17:46Rich Eisen:Right. Yeah, the Giants had five different full-time head coaches during Harbaugh's 18-season tenure in Baltimore. Yeah, I mean, if this is an adult, this guy commands respect. He's going to bring in a real staff. This team had talent. I mean, they were in a lot of games. This team had talent. So you need an adult. He's going to bring in real coaches, real guys that he can work with. The organization will be in lockstep. And then, you know, when things don't go well for the Jets, they can get with Alan Clem and get the first pick of the draft. Ladies and gentlemen, a high register from Alan Dallas.

18:22Rich Eisen:Good to speak with you, Al. Harbaugh won 10 or more games 11 times as the Ravens head coach. And the Giants have had 10 or more wins three times since Harbaugh was hired by Baltimore in 2008. Last time they had double-digit wins was 11 in 2016. That was the famed boat trip year. Right, Christopher? 2016? Yeah, buddy. 2017. Well, I mean, that was the calendar year, 2017. So, yeah, that's why Giants fans are all excited. And I'm sure, again, Ravens fans hearing Giants fans saying, we could have won all those games that we were leading in this year if we had John Harbaugh on the sidelines of a talented team.

19:06Rich Eisen:Ravens fans are hearing that saying, that's why he's your coach now. That's a very good point. And it's a small bug in the Harbaugh system. Again, the Giants desperately need somebody to come in here and say, I've got it. And you know I've got it because I've had it somewhere else. And I know how to handle the media. You're not going to get a call saying, you hear what John had to say. He's going to love up his quarterback because that's what Harbaugh's do. It's going to be fine and potentially better than such. We take a break. Rob Lowe is here. He's coming out of the green room. We're going to talk Super Bowl with Rob Lowe when we come back here on The Rich Eisen Show.

20:06Rich Eisen:In my line of work, I'm fortunate enough to travel quite a bit covering the biggest moments through the football season. While I'm on the road, I sometimes miss the comforts of home, which is why when I travel with my family, we always check Airbnb for places to stay. It's our home away from home, providing the comfort and safety that allows us to wind down and relax. Families like mine are looking for homes that fit their needs to make new memories in, and your home may be exactly what they're looking for. If you're looking to save up for a new addition to your house or a once-in-a-lifetime trip to see your favorite band in another country, for instance, hosting your house on Airbnb could help you reach those goals.

20:46Rich Eisen:It's easy to list your home for short trips or extended periods of time, allowing your house to earn you some extra money, make your home work for you while you're away, and enjoy the benefits of hosting on Airbnb. Your home may be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.com slash host. If you're ready for an oil change, trust the professional parts people at O 'Reilly Auto Parts to recommend the best products for your vehicle. Right now, get five quarts of Valvoline full synthetic motor oil and a Wix filter for$35.99 and receive a$15 O 'Reilly gift card after rebate. Upgrade to a Wix XP oil filter for just$2 more.

21:27Rich Eisen:Limits apply. See store for details. Stop by your local O 'Reilly Auto Parts store or shop online at OReillyAuto.com. As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back. From professional-grade products you can count on to fast, dependable delivery, they're there to help you keep things running smoothly. Plus, their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions. And because Granger knows safety is always a priority, they're committed to being your partner and protecting both your people and your facilities.

22:02Call 1-800-GRANGER, click granger.com, or just stop by.

22:09Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Here on The Rich Eisen Show, on location's first ever brand ambassador attending Super Bowl 60. Ladies and gentlemen, Rob Lowe is back here on the program as our radio audience with our Disney Plus audience. and also our ESPN app audience. And so on location, exp.com to learn about available hospitality packages. By the way, when we say available hospitality packages, makes it sound like you're going to walk into a room and there's going to be like hot dogs over Sterno. We're talking, bro, we're talking, you want to go to the Super Bowl and play Pebble Beach? Sure.

22:48We got you. You want to go to private sting concert? Yeah. We got you.

22:52Rich Eisen:but what if i do want a pig in a blanket over a hot sterno can probably get that too right if you give us enough advance you're gonna get whatever you want how about them apples and um have you chosen your uh headwear your headgear for for this i've got a lot to live up to i've got a lot to live up to because you are representing in a way the super bowl and experience of the super What am I going to do? So it would be fitting. What am I going to do? If you did show up with a hat on and the NFL shield on it. You know, every time I get to spend any time with the commissioner, and Roger, he's a great guy and obviously the best commissioner ever for any league ever.

23:36He's like, man, that hat. We sell more of that hat now. Is that right? Does he say that to you? Yes, he does. Do you ask for a piece? He said, if there's ever anything I can do. I said, well, yeah, I wouldn't mind being part of an ownership group. Yes. Come on. Let's go. He's like, and look at the time. Yeah, he's like, and I'll be out of here.

23:52Rich Eisen:So what is the story behind that hat? Yeah. By the way, every time we see it, we just showed it. Your awesome son is sitting right to your left. So we give some airtime. I know, Matthew Lowe sitting right next to me. Yes, indeed. The hat was, they gave me a choice of hats to wear. I was at the game so they could, it was a Fox game. Yes, sir. I had a show premiering on Fox. So they were like, would you go for promotion? will cut to you in the audience okay i'm like you had me i just go to the game sure i love sports yeah and so they're like here's a hat and they were all like these loud half one team on one side and half the other team on the other and like super busy and like those special game hats were just bad yeah yeah and then there's this one simple nfl hat which i'd never seen before i'd never seen that hat before i'd never seen that hat before usually i i don't normally normally when you see something like that it's a ref right and it's white and it's white and i'm like oh that looks like a i i'm definitely gonna wear that simple thing damn straight and and people it's become a meme of someone who is agnostic to everything that's really what it is if you're agnostic to everything yes if you're just like hey go teams yeah go teams what game was that by the away do you uh yeah it was at levi's stadium it was oh so were you going to be for super bowl 60 where it happened so this is a full circle moment potentially this is full circle this is what five years ago san francisco green bay nfc championship nfc championship oh so it wasn't a big audience that sat around and saw the whole damn thing yeah can you imagine dude literally my phone started blowing up like you could not blow it oh they i was like oh they they just put me on the air obviously and then it kept going and going and going oh something's up little did i know how many years later we'll talk about the damn i have it by the way you still do of course oh gosh my archives okay so with my can we have it here for the studio oh no why the smithsonian that's what this is this is kind of like a where we're smith we're a sonian what's your best piece of of memorabilia.

26:10Most valuable.

26:11Rich Eisen:Well, most valuable. I mean, we got a Joe Namath autographs 1969 Jets helmet. Chris, you've got a Jim Brown Syracuse helmet right in front of you. Wow. Okay, here's what I'll do. We have a ball with Dwight Clark, Franco Harris, Terry Bradshaw, and Joe Montana. Yeah, so the catch and the immaculate reception all on one ball. That's valuable. Actually, the most unique one is we have behind Chris two Rose Bowl seats there. And any guest that we've ever had in studio who's played in the Rose Bowl or called one signs those seats. Wow. We have all that. But the Rob Lowe shield hat autographed by Rob Lowe would be quite something.

26:57Okay. I mean, that would be way up there. Here's what I'm willing to consider. Okay. Okay. I'm willing to consider. Okay. You know, like people have really valuable art. and they're like, oh, it's at the Guggenheim for the next year. Yes, sir. Oh, it's on loan? You want to put it on loan? On loan. Yeah. Sure. Can we do it on loan? Yeah, of course. What, you want to wear it again? You want to wear it again? Yeah, I'm not giving that up. I mean, it's like, oh, I don't have much, man. It's like, I've got that hat and I've got the saxophone from St. Elmo's Fire. It's all I've got. Do you really? That's good.

27:26Rich Eisen:I do. You have the saxophone from St. Elmo's Fire. I do. Where is it? It's in my office. Dude. Next to my E-Channel Golden Hanger Award for best outfit that Joan Rivers gave me. That's all I've got. Really? When was the last time you've actually played that saxophone? I never played it. You never played it? It's all fake. Movie magic. Wow. I can fake play a saxophone. You know the story where I fake play the saxophone for Bill Clinton and he wrote me a letter inviting me to come to the White House? I don't know this story and would like to hear it. You've got the greatest stories, Rob Lowe. Well, this one, in fairness, is in my first book, Stories I Only Tell My Friends.

28:04You can get it now on Kindle or wherever the hell you get books anymore. It was a political fundraiser back in the day. And my friend David Foster, who wrote St. Elmo's Fire, that song, was like, hey, you want to come up and do that thing we sometimes do? And I did it. There's a real saxophone player behind a curtain. And I'm up there. Yeah. Sure. By blowing like no other. There's no sound coming out of it. Right. and Quincy Jones is in the front row. Uh-oh. And Quincy Jones is like, you blow Rob Lowe! And Clinton is in the back doing the Wayne's World, I'm not worthy. And I'm like, oh, s***. They really believe that this is happening.