In short
Teron Armstead discusses Drew Brees’ Hall of Fame underdog story, previews Tua Tagovailoa’s bounce-back preseason, analyzes Giants’ “old school” hard-practice approach under John Harbaugh, debates Rams’ Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett return timing, and does “What’s More Likely” fantasy/playoff predictions.
Guest backgrounds
Teron Armstead is a five-time NFL Pro Bowl offensive tackle and former New Orleans Saints player. He reflects on playing with Drew Brees and the Saints’ culture. (Other referenced voices: NBC Sports Bay Area 49ers reporter Matt Mayocco; Giants’ Brian Burns; Rams/49ers/Chiefs figures mentioned.)
Key claims
Tua can succeed in Atlanta if he settles nerves and “lets it fly,” and the week-one starter job may still be his. Giants’ camp toughness should translate to in-game performance. Aaron Donald’s return is a process (physical/mental) and will be game-planned like elite “Avengers” pass rushers. Saints can win the NFC South; AFC is “top heavy.”
Notable examples
Brees being benched three times in a season, then changing his mindset; Saints/Rams joint practice with Stafford completing many straight passes; Armstead’s “hardly ever” experience blocking Garrett/Donald; “One out, one in” picks: Panthers out/Saints in; Chiefs in/Jaguars out.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflecting on Drew Brees' Hall of Fame Induction
1:26 to 2:42
Discussion on Drew Brees' Hall of Fame induction and its emotional impact.
“Mendoza back over the middle and he's picked off.”
Insights from Teron Armstead on Brees' Journey
2:42 to 6:16
Teron Armstead shares insights on Drew Brees' career and his underdog story.
“How was the Hall of Fame from your perspective?”
Tua's Journey and Preseason Performance
6:16 to 7:58
Discussion on Tua Tagovailoa's upcoming preseason start and his potential.
“Let's talk about the here and now, right?”
Giants Under John Harbaugh's Leadership
7:58 to 11:49
Analysis of the Giants' training under coach John Harbaugh and expectations.
“when they laid it on them like it was the Super Bowl.”
Expectations for the Rams This Season
11:49 to 13:00
Discussion on the Rams' performance and expectations for the upcoming season.
“But this is the stuff I hear and I'm like, do I believe in the Giants a little bit more now?”
Aaron Donald's Return and Preparation
13:00 to 14:00
Insights on Aaron Donald's process of returning to play and preparation challenges.
“You know, so it's perfect since you just came back from Rams camp.”
Preparing for Great Defenses
14:00 to 18:00
Learn how offensive lines strategize against top-tier defensive players.
“whether he plays or not, how much he plays.”
Assessing NFL Offensive Lines
18:00 to 22:00
Explore which NFL teams have the offensive lines to handle elite defenses.
“All right, put the Rams schedule up again.”
Predicting Playoff Teams
22:00 to 24:50
Hear predictions for NFL playoff teams in each conference.
“What do you like about the Chiefs other than the obvious?”
Life and Sports Reflections
24:50 to 25:31
Engage in light-hearted banter about life events and sports experiences.
“Everybody check out the set with Teron Armstead wherever you get your podcasts and on this man's YouTube channel as well.”
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Life and Sports Reflections
25:35 to 27:10
Engage in light-hearted banter about life events and sports experiences.
“It's a what's more likely Friday as well coming up.”
Funny Mascot Banter
28:00 to 30:00
The hosts share humorous interactions and mascot preferences.
“El Tufo, if you were a mascot, we all know you would be Olaf.”
What's More Likely Game
30:00 to 40:04
The hosts play a game predicting outcomes in sports scenarios.
“What's more likely presented by Pella Windows and Doors.”
What's More Likely Game
40:17 to 40:58
The hosts play a game predicting outcomes in sports scenarios.
“All right, when we come back, phone calls, 844-204-RICH, and maybe a surprise.”
Debate on Team Loyalty
42:23 to 45:27
A lively debate ensues about team loyalty and fandom between hosts.
“I just gave out the phone number, right?”
Debate on Team Loyalty
46:42 to 46:57
A lively debate ensues about team loyalty and fandom between hosts.
“SoFi Personal Loan is here to help you achieve something once thought impossible, and that's overcoming high-interest credit card debt.”
Transcript
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0:59Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Mendoza back over the middle and he's picked off. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Mike Garofalo, is there a shot? He's the week one starter. The communication has been that Kirk Cousins is going to be the week one starter.
1:39Rich Eisen:However, I've been lied to before. Earlier on the show, NBC Sports Bay Area 49ers reporter Matt Mayocco. Coming up, five-time NFL Pro Bowler Teron Armstead. Three-time Super Bowl champion Mark Schlereth. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Is on the air. And if your Disney Plus ESPN feed looks a little brighter, it's because 12-year veteran of the National Football League, host of the set, his pod on his YouTube channel and wherever you get podcasts, and fresh off of the set of Good Morning Football, all blinged out is Teron Armstead. Let's go. Sure. What's up, my guy? The watch, the bracelets, the rings.
2:30Rich Eisen:Yeah, yeah, yeah. The eyewear. I don't know how to keep up right now, man. You're so far ahead. Oh, is that what it is? I'm trying to catch up. Okay, good to see you. How are you? I'm all well. How was the Hall of Fame from your perspective? Because, you know, to see a guy that you played with, your first ballot Hall of Famer go in and Drew Brees, and Sean Payton's there to present him, and Gail Benson was there, The whole Saints organization was there. A lot of players, current players were there. Saw Kamara there. Saw a whole bunch of people there. What was that like? Mike Thomas. Yeah, can't guard Mike.
3:04Rich Eisen:What was it like? It was incredible. It was incredible. You did a great job. Thank you. Rich, let me give you your flowers. At the jacket dinner. You did a great job presenting. It was special, truly. A lot of these guys I haven't seen in years. I bet. It brought back so many memories. We're just talking about moments and games and what could have been and what was. And Sean Payton had the floor at Drew Brees' party after the enshrinement. And that's his thing. And he took over the stage. What do you mean? Telling stories. He just got everybody's attention. And he's working the room. Sean's pretty good.
3:41He's a really good storyteller. He's an A++ storyteller. Yeah, he is. One of the greatest storytellers of all time of storytellers. I would agree. Right. But no, it was amazing. It was amazing just being around the guys. We had a special thing in New Orleans for many years. Unfortunately, we never got a chance to hold up the trophy. But the moments that we had, the brotherhood, the family vibe and culture that we created is real. It's genuine.
4:07Rich Eisen:Well, obviously, you know, they were able to hold up a trophy, you know, and I know what you're saying. Wow. No, I want to make sure people understand. No, people want to, no, if they're coming in, you know, they want to make sure you understand. It's the reason I wear my own rings. No, I know that. Because I didn't get to win. I understand. Trust me. I'm not trolling on you. I'm just making sure people are tuning in saying, what's he talking about? They were able to hold up a trophy. It's just unfortunate that the timing didn't work out. All right, let's go somewhere else. No, no, no. But when you were playing with Breeze and hearing him talk in his speech, I've mentioned this multiple times.
4:44Rich Eisen:what really struck me was that moment when he was in San Diego. Yeah. Right? He's in San Diego, and he's in the meeting room with, he said, Cam Cameron and Brian Schottenheimer, the OC and the QB coach, and they're talking about, why didn't you make this throw? And he said, I couldn't see the receiver, and was using his height basically as an excuse. And he said, you know, when they told him, it's your job to see the receiver, and he said he's going to change everything in his life. Now he's there as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Sure. And you were there. You were seeing. I saw it. I saw it up close and personal.
5:14I didn't realize in his story as he was telling his speech that he was benched. Three times that season. Drew Brees. Yes, sir.
5:22Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, they went and drafted Phillip Rivers the next draft after that season. He's talking about it. And then that's why he wound up playing with you for a long time. Yeah, no, for sure. I'm forever grateful for the Chargers doing what they did. Felt like was best for their franchise. For sure. Forever grateful. Yeah. But hearing that, though, Drew Brees, first belt of Hall of Famer, he was benched three times. So it's really like it's another level or layer of inspiration and motivation. Listening to this man. Yes, sir. He was, it's the ultimate underdog story or like not using his height as an excuse, not using his start as or somebody telling him what he will be.
6:05He became one of the greatest of all time through work.
6:10Rich Eisen:And you got to, again, you had a front row seat for many years to see all that. Pretty sweet stuff. I've got Teron Armstead here from the New Orleans Saints on the Rich Eisen show. Let's talk about the here and now, right? Let's talk about this coming up season. Well, I mean, you know Tua, right? Yeah. Okay. And the guy, I mean, he's got another preseason start coming up. His first one was terrible. Looked awful. I mean, I'm not lying. I'm not telling any tales out of school here. Do you think he can work out there in Atlanta to Ron Armstead? Yes or no? I do. I do. I strongly feel like that he can.
6:44I would love to see it, and I don't really want to be the one to have to voice it. I would rather Tua just let the ball go, find his eligibility. Got a lot of weapons down there. He is not necessarily looking to prove to people. I think he wants to prove to himself and really just confirm to him that he can do it at the highest level. The way that it ended in Miami, not by his standard. He does not feel okay with it. And he just like desperately wants to get that bad taste out of his mouth. So you see some of the pressing, dropping a snap. That's like super routine for a quarterback.
7:28Rich Eisen:What happens there, do you think? just nerves, jitters? It's depressing. Like, you want to do everything right. You want to silence the noise, and you start to, all of it starts to amount to just too much. And if he can just take that deep breath this week in the preseason game and let it fly, play ball, because he can, and he has done it at a high level, I'm not a Falcons guy. Very painful for me to speak well on them folks. By the way, you saw Sean Payton in that game. when they laid it on them like it was the Super Bowl. Yeah. Talking about, boy, there's a lot of fans here dressed as empty seats.
8:06Rich Eisen:Yeah. You know? Well-dressed. Once a saint, always a saint. I get it. No question. I hear you. Right. It's hard to talk good about those people down there. But you're a professional now. I am. You got your own show. You got your own career here. And I'm not a hater. So they got a lot of weapons. Right. They sure do. A lot of weapons. I would love to see Tua utilize those weapons. And I'm looking forward to his performance in his next preseason game. Okay, because it looks like he's going to get the week one start based on maybe not what he's putting out there on film right now, but based on the fact that Penix isn't maybe ready and he's taking things over maybe in practice.
8:43Rich Eisen:I don't know. Yeah, watch this next one, Rich. Watch this next one. Okay. Yeah. Very good. Your 12 years of experience in the professional ranks, sir, I want to tap into it. With this soundbite that we picked up from Brian Burns of the Giants. Okay. I don't know if this was played for you on Good Morning Football or anything. I haven't heard it. Because the question is, look, what are the Giants going to look like under John Harbaugh, right? And they have been practicing hard. Yeah. And they have been in pads and they have been working out more than they did in previous years. Like, John is really riding them.
9:20Rich Eisen:Old school. Right? Old school. Yeah. And because, you know, we're wondering what they're going to look like in the conversation about Jackson Dart going down and not being protected in the big blue tent and all that sort of stuff. It's taken up the oxygen in the room about what could really be more important at the end of the day, with all due respect to, obviously, a quarterback staying healthy is crucially important. But interpret this soundbite for me and what Giants fans should think. This is Brian Burns talking about the way Harbaugh has run things this summer. Okay. If we didn't practice as hard as we do, I don't know if we would have made it through this heat and the level of competition that we practice with today.
9:58But I feel like us practicing as hard as we do, you know, definitely prepared us for all of this.
10:03Rich Eisen:What does this mean? When you hear something like that from somebody like Brian Burns say that? A veteran, someone that's proven and decorated at this point, he's saying that they have put in the work and that them going out and executing against Miami is not by accident. that the conditions down there are real, and as somebody that has not put themselves in uncomfortable situations, time and time again, you will fold. And that will manifest itself during the playing season? That's what I'm trying to figure out right now when I hear something like that. It doesn't guarantee you anything. Sure.
10:40But the process is important. The process is very important. I'm an old school approach. Sean Payton was your coach. I had no choice. I had no other choice. Sure. So those coaches, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, even a younger guy, Ben Johnson, it's that same type of approach for him. Andy Reid's another one. Andy Reid. They're in pads a lot in Kansas City. The consistency that they have and longevity that they have is proven by the work. And what Brian Burns is saying is like more than ever before, I'm being challenged. I'm uncomfortable daily, so I'm getting used to it. I'm getting comfortable being uncomfortable.
11:22And as a team, I strongly feel like it breeds success. Our training camps in New Orleans made us very difficult to play because we just handled adversity. Like no conditions was too much for us. Hmm.
11:36Rich Eisen:Because I'm trying to figure out who the Giants are. And I hear soundbite like that. I'm like, I got to play that for Teron when he comes in to see if this is the stuff. Yeah. Obviously, your quarterback staying healthy and getting the protection right, that's one thing. But this is the stuff I hear and I'm like, do I believe in the Giants a little bit more now? I'm buying Giants stock. You are? I'm not cashing out on them. Okay. Who are you cashing out on then? NFC? Yes, sir. You remember last time I was here? We went through this schedule of a team. We sure did. And I went no blemishes. Them Rams look good, dog.
12:11I was just at the Saints and Rams joint practice yesterday. Them Rams look good, dog. they are talented very talented Matt Stafford is he probably completed 20 passes in a row at one point during practice the defense was flying around Saints was able to make some plays and move the ball but then the Rams defense responded no Miles Garrett yesterday no Aaron Donald yesterday hint hint and they still were able to you see it like you see a team that's sure of themselves, confident, talented. Devontae Adams was, the Rams are real.
12:55Rich Eisen:So it backs your thought that they could go undefeated this year. I still feel that way. Okay. I do. You know, so it's perfect since you just came back from Rams camp. We've been playing this game way longer than we thought we would, to be honest with you. We came up with this idea just flat out talking about it on the air. Hit it. Latest edition of Is He Back Yet? Hey, Ava. Is he back yet? Where is A.A. Ron right now? So you can confirm he's not back yet. No. But what did you hear? What do you think? I think it's happening. I think it's happening. Then why isn't it happened yet? It's a process.
13:32What do you mean? What process? It's a process, man. And this man has earned.
13:35Rich Eisen:Isn't it more mental than anything else, the process? Whatever it is for Aaron Donald. Yes, sir. He's earned the right to go through the process. whether it's mental where he got to really psych himself up to do it. It's physical where he has to get in football shape to do it. Whatever that is, he's earned it. And we got to give him that time and space. I'm sure Sean McVay and the Rams organization has given him that time and space to do so. He is one of the few humans that can dictate his every move, whether he plays or not, how much he plays. Who's saying no? Of course the Rams will not say no, and they'll say, take your time.
14:16Rich Eisen:But we're getting close, right? No? He might be getting close. He might be getting close. He's on the right. I think the way that Aaron Donald played, the level he played for the duration of his career, you can't give him any question that he'll be ready, that he'll be prepared, that he will know the game plan, that he can go out and execute. You have no reason to question that. You got to let him go through his process, whatever that is. Walk me through what it's going to be like in an offensive line room when it happens. What is it like to prepare for Garrett and Donald? And again, if I'm young or the rest of the defensive linemen there, you're like, wait a minute.
15:04Rich Eisen:You understand maybe why we in the media are fascinated with Garrett and Donald because it's like the Avengers uniting, right? So what will it be like in an offensive line room to take on a Rams team with both of them? It's a lot to consider when you're game planning. The run game, whoever they play week after week, the run game will be vital. And your defense ability to not allow Matt Stafford and the offense to just go score points freely. Like keeping a close game or having a league the whole game, running the ball well, third and two, third and three, that has to be like you have to live in that world against that team with those two guys.
15:54Rich Eisen:But you are in an offensive line room, and you are a lion-hearted individual as you are. For sure. And you take – like there's nobody that comes at you that can get past you in your mind. I know your mindset. It's proven. It's on film. It's on film, right? You said how many times did Garrett get past you? Like hardly? It's on film. Hardly ever, right? Real bad man. Okay. So you're sitting in that line room, and you're saying what to the rest of the line group? If I'm sitting in that line room with the guys, it's a plan. Like even me blocking Miles Garrett or me stepping down blocking Aaron Donald, we have a plan.
16:36What we're trying to accomplish. You got to be locked in on that. You got to know where these guys are every play, which the quarterback will be in tune. So in that line room, you really have to, before the game, make the decision that we are treating these two men as the next opponents. We can't put them on no type of pedestal. They don't have a cape under their jersey. Nothing. These are great players, but that's that. And I am too, and the guy next to me, some offensive lines just won't, they simply won't have the talent to block these guys.
17:12Rich Eisen:Because there'll be injuries. There'll be an inability to practice enough to communicate, to be able to be one organism to stop them. Just having the ability to like literally stop these guys. Like some lines will not be able to physically stop these men. But then there'll be some lines that can, they have the talent up front to combat. that you will go against the Chicago Bears and Darnell Wright on this side and Joe Tooney on this side. These two can block those two. You know what I mean? But then there's a lot of other lines that you know you're not really going to have that matchup in your favor on the O-line side.
17:50So it's going to be by committee, tight ends, running backs, quarterback getting the ball out. The game plan will be special, bro. It will be very, very detailed every time somebody play the Rams. All right, put the Rams schedule up again. Just do me a favor. I haven't changed my mind.
18:04Rich Eisen:No, I'm not asking you to do that, but I'm asking you to point out the offensive lines that you think could best handle. Denver's one of them, right? Don't you think? Denver's one of them. San Fran's one of them. Philly? Philly's one of them. Buffalo? Buffalo's one of them. Okay. Chargers, if they're healthy, right? The Chargers are healthy. They just lost Biotta, sure. That hurts. Big time. A lot. A lot. On the edge, yeah. Interior, that's another. That's a challenge. Okay. Look at the rest of the list here. What else jumps at you? Kansas City? Does Kansas City have their own line to handle it?
18:39KC got some young boys up front that's playing well. Dallas? It's different. Dallas can do it. Okay. Seattle? Seattle can do it.
18:48Rich Eisen:You know they're pissed, right? Yeah. They're pissed that everybody's like, somebody like yourself, and I'm with you. I get it. I know why you're saying what you're saying. They're the defending Super Bowl champs, right? And if I could say to the 12th man, I'm not discrediting them at all. Understood. I think they are still elite Super Bowl contenders. This is when Kevin Durant went to the Warriors. This is that situation. And then LeBron comes back and goes there too. That's what the Rams were. That's what they're putting up. Teron Armstead here on the Rich Eisen Show. All right, I'm going to throw something at you before I send you on the rest of your Friday and weekend that we didn't discuss that you have no idea that's coming.
19:37Rich Eisen:All week long we've been saying, put one in, take one out. Okay. Playoff team from last year in each conference that, with all due respect, not going to return to the playoffs this year. And somebody that missed it that's in, let's start with the AFC. Give me one out, one in. AFC. One out, one in. Teron Armstead. Is that what we should call this segment from now on when we do it every year? One out, one in. One out? AFC is tough. Tougher than the NFC. You want to start with the NFC then? NFC easy. Panthers out, Saints in. Saints win the NFC South. And that's not? No, no. I'm just watching ball.
20:16And I think the Panthers will be really good. They will be really good. NFC is just stacked. The NFC North will have three teams I feel like will get in. Yes. and then it'll be tough for the NSV South to have too. So I think the Saints get in as the South win it. AFC side, AFC is not as crowded. It's super top heavy.
20:40So here we go. I need to, if I could see the playoff picture.
20:45Rich Eisen:Okay. I don't know if we have that, but I can tell you. I trust your perspective. Buffalo made it last year. The Steelers made it last year. The Patriots made it last year. The Chargers made it last year. Denver made it last year. The Jaguars made it last year. What do you think? Yeah. You had two in the AFC. And Houston. And Houston made it last year. Houston's in. That's your seven. Jags out. Jags out? Jags out. Why? They won 13 games. Jags, I like the Jags. I think they play extremely well. Just looking at the roster, not the most talented. Very talented defensive line. Nice receiving core, Trevor Lawrence.
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21:28Rich Eisen:So you're saying now if you put the Texans winning the South, that now allows you to take a wild card team out. For sure. So Texans will be the South winner. Okay. Jags out as wild card. Right. Insert. Insert. I don't really love. I got the Chiefs. I got the Chiefs. Chiefs in, Jaguars out. Chiefs in, Jaguars out. And I was almost going to shuffle the Chargers just off health. You know what I mean? Their O-line's healthy, they're in. But that situation makes it challenging. Jags out, Chiefs in. What do you like about the Chiefs other than the obvious? The obvious. Andy and Patrick and then in company.
22:13Yeah, yeah. I think they don't like nothing about not being involved in the tournament. They hate it, and I love that for them.
22:21Rich Eisen:Okay. Well, it's great to see you again. You too, my guy. Yeah, you got it. Tell everybody about your show. Oh, absolutely. Rich said it earlier. He's a fan of the show. He watches it all the time. Well, I do, and I have made myself available. We're getting this done today. Before I leave today, on the schedule, on the books. You've been kind enough to come on here. I play home and homes all the time. Hey, I love you guys. That's nice. The set with Toronto Armstead. If you're wondering if it's legit, there's the autograph right there. you've endorsed it like the back of a check. Right there. Endorsed your, okay.
22:58Rich, I appreciate you. Episodes Mondays and Tuesdays? Mondays and Thursdays. Mondays and Thursdays. You might watch back-to-back days, but it's Mondays and Thursdays. Got it. Yeah. Okay, very good. For sure. Awesome.
23:08Rich Eisen:And it's great to see you. Always great to see you. Yeah. Were you in the stands or at a table at the jacket dinner? I was in the attic. Okay. Me and Jimmy Graham was so high up. Jimmy Graham? Yeah. My phone, I zoomed. I was 8X on the phone to see you. I was right there at the podium, and right in front of me was Drew Brees' table. And they gave away those Steins. They announced, like, hey, anyone in seat five, you win the Hall of Fame Stein. You won the Stein one. I won the Stein of 2019. Okay, there it is. So they had those on each table. But he won it just recently, this pass? No, no, this is from 2019.
23:50Rich Eisen:Oh, in 2019. So that's a seven-year-old Stein. This is a good one. So they announced the number. And sitting at Breeze's table is Breeze's whole family. And Gail Benson. Who do you think won the Stein? Gail Benson. As she should. And the table's like, all right. I'm like trying to read her mind. I'm like, yeah, place it on the, that's like a hood ornament. You know what I mean? As she should. That's the queen. I thought it would be like his daughter, like his young daughter, like, oh, here's a beer stein. I mean, just seeing his son, you know, the one who was wearing those big headsets as a baby when they won in 2009.
24:30Rich Eisen:Right? It's just pretty wild. I know. In high school now, playing ball. Yeah. I'm getting old, Rich. If you're getting old, then what am I? Stop it. No, I'm saying Peyton Manning's son was playing on ESPN last night. Wow. Marshall. Is that right? Yeah. Marshall Manning. Completed a pass. What the hell is going on? Good to see you, Teron Armstead. Everybody check out the set with Teron Armstead wherever you get your podcasts and on this man's YouTube channel as well. Before we take a break, just want to let you know that the Hyundai Getaway Sales Event I've been talking about is still going on.
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27:20Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show Podcast LinkedIn Hiring Pro gets started by posting a free job at linkedin.com slash Eisen Alright, guess who's going to play we've now renamed it One In, One Out right? One Out, One In? What have we decided? One Out, One In. I kind of dig that. Like out first? Kind of. One Out, One In. In and Out. Jimmy San Antonio. Let's take Jimmy. What's up, Jimmy? Que paso? Hello, muchacho. Am I talking to Old Spice? Yeah! Like that moment yesterday? Susie said she looks like, what, which Spice? Sporty Spice. I said, what does that make me? And then TJ goes, Old Spice. Susie laughs and doesn't defend it.
28:06Rich Eisen:It doesn't defend me. It just lets it slide. It was funny. I mean, it was funny. You can't defend the funny, dude. It was funny. El Tufo. Yes. El Tufo, if you were a mascot, we all know you would be Olaf. Come on. No, no, no, no, no. I'm a big Oregon Duck fan. No. Getting all the way back to yesterday. The mascot. Jimmy's just a fit and efficient. I like them all. I want to be a mascot so bad. Mike loves warm hugs anyway. I do. So you don't love Olaf? I love Olaf. I'll get to my postseason in and out, but I do want to congratulate you, sir, on your number one little tailor on her bat mitzvah that's coming up.
28:46Rich Eisen:Thank you, pal. Susie and I are ready to celebrate next week, and we're ready. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you are not going to cry as much as you did with the boys at their bat mitzvah. We shall see, man. You know I'm a softie. Dude, you know what's coming. No photographs. Tell them to put the phones away when they walk in. Yeah. I mean, like the wedding, right? The Madison Square Garden wedding. Wait, Brockman made you put your phones up at his wedding? I did. I took everyone's phone. He didn't. He didn't. He's like, take as many photographs as you want. And I did. Is there an NDA?
29:23Rich Eisen:Is there an NDA involved? No. None. All right. Put one in. Take one out. In and out. Okay. This one's a different angle, and it's going to be quick. I'm going to say in and out on the postseason. in. Ross Tucker out. Tony Romo. Ladies and gentlemen. There he goes. Jimmy in San Antonio. Jimmy. That's not the spirit of the game. Not at all. Not the spirit of the game at all. It's not our hokey pokey. Here I thought we were going to play the game. Jimmy makes up his own rules. You know you can't control Jimmy. It's time for What's More Likely presented by Pella Windows and Doors. Hit it. Hit it. What?
30:04Rich Eisen:What's more likely. Never say never, but never. What's more likely presented by Pella Windows and Doors. Christopher, you have the floor. I had some fun putting these together. Good to know. Not that I don't. Every week, but this was particularly because we got week two of the preseason, so all these kind of involve these teams. Excellent content. Out of the context. It played last night, guys. More likely West Coast team to win more games this year. 49ers or Chargers. Hmm. Oh, my gosh.
30:38Rich Eisen:great question great question I'll go Chargers I'll go our neighbors across the street I don't know why I just did yeah I was going to say what any particular reason you want to talk this out yeah I think Herbert's going to get dialed up plus stuff okay and a better offensive line okay than last year not alone you heard DJ this week Daniel Jeremiah saying nobody's talking about Omari and Hampton to win the the rushing title. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not throwing that around just to get buzzed. That's not Daniel. So I'll do that. I mean, and this could be completely, you know, recency bias. Right now, the 49ers are banged up the whole bit.
31:21You know, so I'll go with that.
31:24Rich Eisen:Okay. These two teams face off tomorrow. Okay, very good. They've played in two Super Bowls against each other, TJ. Who's more likely to have the more dangerous offense this season? Philadelphia or New England?
31:39Rich Eisen:Danger. What does that mean, dangerous? Put up more points. Is that what it means? Explosive points. Fantasy people. Kind of just all-encompassing. I don't know. I think I'm going to go... Wow, great question. I think I'll go New England here. Drake May throws better deep ball than anybody else. A little deeper receiver room, too. So seemingly, we need to see him get a nice little bounce back. And then New England, I think Travion Henderson is going to start getting a good two headed monster there. OK, I'll do that just because you thought I was going to go the other way around. I like zagging when you think I'm going to zig.
32:24Rich Eisen:I just think you like zagging on me. What else? More likely South champ to repeat as division winner. Panthers and Jaguars. They play each other this week. I'll go Jaguars. Jaguars. I'll go Jacksonville. Are you feeling Teron Armstead that the Saints might be the sneaky NFC South play? No, I just think the South is going to be stronger than what people think on the NFC side of things. And on the AFC side of things, you know, I kind of, you know, and I know there's Houston that's sitting right there. so i i i think liam cohen and may have unlocked something with trevor lawrence and last year there's a reason why trevor had one of his best seasons yeah and this year might be better so i'll i'll go i'll go there boy you're putting me in positions uh it's not going to get any okay uh what else this group is always a topic of conversation with these teams more likely pass-catching core to have a better season?
33:28Rich Eisen:Broncos or Packers? I'll go Denver. I'll go Denver. Sutton just does... Sutton's going to be there, what, round three, round four in some fantasy drafts? Yeah, for sure. Right? And then you got Waddle. He might even drop around because of Waddle. I said pass-catchers to include Tucker Craft for Green Bay. Yeah, I hear you. And, you know, to be honest, the wide receiver room in Green Bay. Always hurt. You know, Watkins and Reed. Golden. How often are they going to be out there? For sure. You know, and plus, I got to do this for you, TJ. This one's for you, man. For me? Yeah. Okay. I mean, the wide receiver room in Denver includes Oregon Duck, Troy Franklin, and that's my G.
34:25Rich Eisen:Throw up the O, man. Throw up the O, TJ. That's what happens now that you give this man shoes, and he starts caping. He starts caping. Yeah, the kendo stick pointing to the free shoes that caused him. Well, isn't it funny that he keeps Florida State? And their free shoes universities. You know what I mean? I thought that. You know what I mean? He gets free shoes, and he keeps Florida State, but bounces Penn State. I didn't bounce nobody. Oh, you certainly didn't. What else, Chris? This could be your second round decision, guys. More likely running back you'd rather have in fantasy. Okay. Travis Echen or Kyron Williams?
34:59Kyron. Oh, baby.
35:02Rich Eisen:That's a real decision in the second round. I'm going to go Echen. I'll do that. Kyron is awesome. Yes. Kyron gets slept on. He gets slept on. I know. Very much so. Balake Karum. I don't know how many more carries he's going to get this year. So there's a true, if you will, vulture chance on the Rams than there may be with Kamara out for a month on the Saints. Right? But it was a month starting last week. So by the time the season started, maybe it's on Kamara. I don't know. We'll see, man. Aaron Williams, all he does is produce. And plus, I just need to zag because everybody thinks I'm such a passionate Rams fan.
35:47Rich Eisen:and that's all I do is choose Rams. That's true. I'm just trying to spread the chips out across the table here as I keep rolling for the point. 36 touchdowns in the last three years for Kyron. I'm rushing. I've got a second overall choice in my poker league. Second overall. Ten team league. Will I on the back end with the 19th overall pick have this choice, do you think? I doubt it. Oh, really? I doubt it. I think it might be likely. I doubt it. Kyron should definitely be gone. Travis should probably be there. Well, I don't know if I'd do it anyway because I'm going to take a running back first.
36:24Rich Eisen:So I got to spread that out. Why are you giving away your strategy? Well, he's taking Gibbs or Bajon, right? At second over. But they don't know that. What else? Zag and take Chase. What else? Rich, here we go. This one is for you, honestly. Is it more likely that Jackson Dart visits the blue tent this weekend? or Tua gets two first downs on the opening drive. Tua gets two first downs on the opening drive. Come on, man. Come on, man. I don't know. Two first downs. Let's speak positivity. Uno dos. Let's put it into the universe. You put it out earlier. And there is no independent neurologist conspiracy theory.
37:07Rich Eisen:What do we call that? I-N-C-T. I shouldn't say CT when it comes to this. Well, probably not. Probably not. There isn't. There isn't. Okay? There's no big blue tinfoil hat here. It ain't. Okay. So let's just tighten up the protection. Okay, great. Let's execute. Let's get the ball out. Let's get Malik neighbors back healthy. Let's get Skititi Bo, you know, doing the right thing. And by the way, I just saw on my timeline here, Odell Beckham is cooking people. Let's get him up and running. Let's go. So I'll go Tua getting two. Tua first down. First drive. Okay. Two more. More likely battling quarterbacks to look more impressive in preseason week two.
38:00Rich Eisen:J.J. McCarthy or either Browns player, Watson or Chateau? Who's going to look better this weekend? I think Watson against the twos and threes, he should look as impressive as ever. Well, should and do. I got it. So I'll go there. You know, if Chador's playing the whole first half and Watson's getting out there to start the second half, and, you know, are the Bills going to have, you know, twos out there or threes? I don't know. So Watson in the second half of a preseason game should look the most impressive of anybody else. He better. Well, it's not like what's better. What's better likely? Right.
38:44Rich Eisen:That's not proper English. What else? Last one. Last one. Last one. More likely team to miss the playoffs for a second straight year that would surprise you the most. Chiefs or Cowboys? This is great. This is so good.
39:06Rich Eisen:What's more likely Friday? You know what your answer is. Just say it. Chiefs. Yeah. That would surprise me. It would be very surprising. It would surprise you the most if the Chiefs put the playoffs. Out of these two? Cowboys are just, you know, I think they have turned a corner. I think they have cleared the bad karma, if they have any. Kind of feel it. you know? I think top to bottom, Dallas has a much better roster. Okay. So you think you'd answer Dallas there? Yeah, I'd be shocked if Dallas must be the playoffs. I think Mahomes is coming back with a big, massive chip on his shoulder, and the rest of that roster feels the same way.
39:53Rich Eisen:And there are some lion-hearted guys there that just won't allow it. He'll get handled when he gets handled. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. That's What's More Likely, presented by Pella Windows and Doors. What's more likely is, again, brought to you by Pella Windows and Doors. When it comes to your home, Pella Windows and Doors always have the winning game plan. That's why your neighbors trust them. Visit Pella.com slash Eisen. All right, when we come back, phone calls, 844-204-RICH, and maybe a surprise. Could be a surprise guest. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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42:26Rich Eisen:I just gave out the phone number, right? And I say, you know, call in. And right now, though, I have to say don't because the man who normally answers the phone is sitting right here on the show, Adam Chudwin. Normally, you're fielding calls of people who want to get stuff off their chest. Yeah. You screen. You're like, what do you want to talk about with Rich and the guys, right? And then you screen it and you write it down here. Okay. Absolutely. You have come out here, though, to get something off of your chest. Oh, whoa. Is that correct? Am I accurate on that? Yeah, I was very, very upset.
42:59Rich Eisen:About what? Like, what do you want to get off your chest, Adam Chudwin? I'm looking right at you, TJ Jefferson. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. For ditching Penn State. I'm a proud alum of Penn State University. We are. I thought I had a fellow person who loved Penn State and TJ, and he just drops Penn State like a bad habit for a pair of Jordans. That is absurd. I am so upset with you, TJ. When you go back to Pennsylvania for Thanksgiving or whenever, I want everybody in Pennsylvania when they see you to go, shame, shame, shame. Like Game of Thrones. It makes me question, TJ, this makes me question your fandom in general because I feel that you care more about a pair of Jordans than your own team.
43:45Rich Eisen:Wow. Your own team. You care more about Jordans. Hey, TJ, if Caleb Williams signs with the Jordan brands and there's a pair of Air Jordan 7 Caleb editions. I will buy those for you so you become a Bears fan and ditch the Cowboys. And I have a feeling you would do that. You would do that, TJ. This is absurd. Not only that, Oregon is a Big Ten team. They're not a random Pac-10 team anymore. They're a Big Ten team who had a devastating victory against Penn State last year. And you're just going with that team all of a sudden. I can't do this, TJ. A rant from the Rich Eisen show calls you. rack him.
44:25Rich Eisen:I would have hung up right there. That's it. This guy is supposed to be Altoona's finest. He is still Altoona's finest. Once Altoona's finest, always Altoona's finest. Look, you guys don't want to get me started. It's Friday. Don't make me start lobbing arrows at people and darts. We don't want that here on the Rich Eisen Show. I don't care. That's the thing. One, I never said I was giving up anything. I said I was going to add something in addition to where you guys were like, you're going to take one off. The coach set the parameters. I didn't go to Penn State. Coach set the parameters. You didn't go there, but Altoona's like 45 minutes away, and you've said that you've rooted for them your whole life.
45:03And you know what? Nice attempted, I guess, rant there, but one thing that you never heard me say was that I did what you were claiming and accusing me of doing. You never heard me say I'm giving up my Penn State fandom.
45:17Rich Eisen:Well, then let me ask you this. I don't think they play each other this year, but if Oregon and Penn State don't ask them questions who's who are you rooting for tj if oregon and penn state are 10 championships don't ask who are you rooting for don't ask me a stupid question but because you're coming out here trying to be funny you know what i'm gonna say i'm gonna root for oregon and how about that and anyone don't like it i got two words for you and one of them is it don't come at me with no use caution is all i'm saying throw up the oh you should have stayed in the back for all this this is why no contest wrestling is as good as it is because he and O'Shea Jackson Jr.
45:50Rich Eisen:are like two birds of the feather. Well, we just don't take no crap from nobody. He just comes out. He comes out. I try to be nicer about it. You could be provoked to be that way. But at the bottom. I try to hold back. You know, I don't bother nobody. But if you come at me, I don't know, man. I don't know if that's a smart thing to do. You know, and I try to make sure we have a friendly work environment. Well, it ain't friendly no more. Well, it is. Because he needed to get that off his chest. I was feeling the tension when you guys were passing each other in the hall. Well, there's going to be more tension now.
46:17Rich Eisen:When the Ducks quack. One of us is going to have to go on it. So now I'm just alone as a Penn State fan here by myself. It's all you. We were. That's Adam. We were. We were. Go back where he is. Adam, the call screener, he's a big Indiana Bears fan, usually. Wow. That's true, yeah. So are you going to change your fandom, Adam, when it happens? Are you going to become an Indiana Bears? There's still going to be the Chicago Bears. I got to step in here and let you know about it. SoFi Personal Loan is here to help you achieve something once thought impossible, and that's overcoming high-interest credit card debt.
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Former Pro Bowl OT Terron Armstead joins Rich in-studio where he reveals what it was like watching his former Saints teammate Drew Brees go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, why he thinks the Falcons are in good hands with Tua Tagovailoa at QB, why he’s buying stock in John Harbaugh’s New York Giants, which teams have the best offensive line to handle a possible Rams’ Aaron Donald/Myles Garrett combo, and if Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs can return to the playoffs after missing out last season.
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