Hour 2: ‘What’s More Likely,’ Rams vs Bears Preview, plus Texans WR Christian Kirk

16 Jan 2026 · 46 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Hour 2 of The Rich Eisen Show covers divisional-round NFL storylines and a “What’s More Likely” betting-style segment, then features Texans WR Christian Kirk. The show discusses coaching/injury news via NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero, including a belief that Texans WR Nico Collins may not play Sunday. Key claim: if Collins can’t go, Houston’s passing attack will lean more on Kirk, who recently had 8 catches for 144 yards and a touchdown vs the Steelers. Notable example: Kirk credits man-coverage matchups on third down and CJ Stroud’s pocket movement for his big game. Kirk also praises Texans DC DeMeco Ryans for accountability and a team-wide culture. He describes Houston’s early-season 0-3 slide as one-score losses and emphasizes “play the next play” leadership.

Guests

Christian Kirk (Houston Texans wide receiver). Other recurring guest/background: Tom Pelissero (NFL Network insider) appears earlier in the hour.

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Dodgers and Mets Offseason Moves

2:05 to 2:30

Discuss recent MLB signings including Kyle Tucker and Bo Bichette.

“and the injury front and the divisional playoff weekend.”

Phone Call with Jeff from Texas

2:30 to 3:30

Jeff shares his thoughts on the upcoming national championship game.

“Bob Nightingale of USA Today reporting that the pivot from losing out on Tucker to signing Bo Bichette, do you know who that left at the altar?”

Analysis of Indiana vs Miami Matchup

3:30 to 6:00

Explore the implications of age and experience in the upcoming game between Indiana and Miami.

“Tom Pelissero was saying moments ago he does not think Nico Collins is going to be able to play on Sunday.”

Coaching Changes and NFL Updates

6:00 to 7:40

Discuss potential coaching changes and the impact on NFL teams.

“That's what's going to be discussed on Monday night.”

Rich Eisen’s Thoughts on NFL Coaching Carousel

7:40 to 8:20

Rich reflects on the implications of recent coaching interviews and hires.

“Because Tom Pelissero tweeted it during the segment with him.”

What's More Likely Segment Introduction

8:20 to 9:00

Introduction to a recurring segment discussing various NFL scenarios.

“You know, per source is the, I believe, Swedish source.”

Quarterback Matchups for the Weekend

9:00 to 10:00

Discuss predictions for the upcoming weekend's quarterback performances.

“All right, Chris, you got the Pella helmet in front of you.”

More Likely Scenarios for NFL Playoffs

10:00 to 12:00

Rich and Chris debate various scenarios for the NFL playoffs.

“Have you seen this picture going around of Haley Steinfeld from 2016 at a Broncos game?”

Player Performances and Predictions

12:00 to 14:00

Examine player predictions and performances in detail for upcoming games.

“But without the context of that, it's a bit.”

Seahawks vs. 49ers Predictions

14:00 to 15:32

Analysis and predictions for the upcoming Seahawks vs. 49ers game.

“And the fact that they're sitting there in Seattle rather than at home will just remind him of that.”
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Playoff Game Predictions and Weather Impact

15:32 to 17:16

Discussing playoff predictions and how weather might affect player performance.

“More likely, more Will Anderson, Daniil Hunter have more sacks of Drake May, or the Patriots have more 20-plus yard plays.”

Discussion on Rushing Yards Leaders

17:16 to 19:16

Debating which running backs will lead in rushing yards this weekend.

“That's how we keep the lights on, Chris.”

A Look at Team 144 and Historical Context

19:16 to 21:54

Analyzing the significance of Team 144 in Michigan's football history.

“Matthew Stafford passer rating in the freezing cold or Dodgers wins next year?”

More Likely: Jerry Jones or Bad Bunny?

21:54 to 22:09

Playing a game of 'What's More Likely' involving Jerry Jones and Bad Bunny.

“When it comes to your home, Pella Windows and Doors always have the winning game plan.”

Christian Kirk Discusses Playoff Journey

24:52 to 28:00

Christian Kirk shares insights on his playoff journey and the team's success.

“What was that night like for you, Monday night, Christian?”

Christian Kirk's Playoff Push and Team Dynamics

28:00 to 29:10

Learn about Christian Kirk's contributions to the Texans and team cohesion under D'Amico Ryans.

“I'm feeling good, feeling healthy, and just ready to keep making this playoff push.”

Overcoming Early Season Struggles

29:10 to 31:10

Hear Christian Kirk's insights on the Texans' early losses and how the team maintained confidence.

“Walk me through what makes D 'Amico Ryan special in your estimation.”

The Comeback Moment

31:10 to 31:50

Kirk shares a pivotal moment in the season where the Texans turned their fortunes around.

“And, you know, we finally were able to, you know, get on the winning side of things and find that recipe.”

Training Camp Insights

33:24 to 35:15

Christian Kirk discusses the challenges of facing a top-tier defense in practice.

“Yeah, an incredible game, one that I definitely won't ever forget.”

Quarterback C.J. Stroud's Steady Leadership

35:15 to 41:00

Kirk shares his thoughts on C.J. Stroud's preparation and performance as quarterback.

“Again, Christian, we at NFL Network did Texans Chargers Week 17.”

Super Bowl Aspirations and Focus

41:00 to 42:00

Kirk reflects on the goal of reaching the Super Bowl while staying focused on the next game.

“So I'm just relishing in the opportunity to play in New England in the divisional round to keep our season alive.”

Christian Kirk's Journey and Upcoming Game

42:00 to 42:25

Learn about Christian Kirk's performance and the Texans' playoff journey.

“having been around peripherally, seeing you in London a couple years ago when you were with the Jaguars a couple of years in a row.”

Previewing the Divisional Playoff Weekend

42:26 to 43:00

Get insights into the upcoming divisional playoff weekend and key matchups.

“That's Christian Kirk getting set for the Texans to take on the Patriots to kick off Divisional Playoff Sunday right here on the Rich Eisen Show.”

Rams vs. Bears: Coaching Strategies and Rivalry

43:34 to 47:34

Explore the coaching dynamics and rivalry between Rams and Bears.

“Listen, two guys who can dial it up, two guys who are really intense, two guys who are young.”
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0:57Rich Eisen:Max$100 cash back per month. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Kyle Tucker to the Dodgers? What are we looking at, a three-peat now? This is the Rich Eisen Show. MLB do something, enough is enough.

1:40Just like that. Tucker's second home run of the ball game.

1:44Rich Eisen:Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Coming up, Texans wide receiver Christian Kirk. Rams running back Blake Corum. And now, it's Rich Eisen.

2:02Rich Eisen:Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Chat with Tom Pellicero about the latest on the coaching carousel and the injury front and the divisional playoff weekend. We also just chopped it up about the Dodgers signing Kyle Tucker and then the Mets responding by signing Bo Bichette. That leaves Cody Bellinger out there still and the Yankees and Cody apparently circling around each other. If not, maybe the Cubs interested if getting him back there because Kyle Tucker just left. I'll tell you this, TJ. Bob Nightingale of USA Today reporting that the pivot from losing out on Tucker to signing Bo Bichette, do you know who that left at the altar?

2:44Rich Eisen:Somebody who had already agreed to a massive$200 million deal for seven years. this adds a little bit of extra happiness for you as a met fan apparently he left the phillies at the altar oh does that make you smile a little bit more right there yep just a little that's right um sorry jake so well it's chinatown as they would say to jake but if you're referring to the jake who puts together our reels and our he hasn't seen chinatown definitely not definitely not Definitely not. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We'll take your phone calls. It's a what's more likely Friday. We'll get to that in a second.

3:25Rich Eisen:We'll talk about the Eagles in hour three, speaking of Philly. We'll do that later on in the program. Christian Kirk's going to join us. Tom Pelissero was saying moments ago he does not think Nico Collins is going to be able to play on Sunday. So that is a blow to a Texans offense that will no doubt have to rely a little bit more on Christian Kirk. eight catches 144 yards and that went over the Steelers he's going to join us shortly uh let's go to the phone lines Jeff in Texas is here on the program what's up Jeff what's going on hey Rich thanks for taking my call thank you sir I'm so glad you're going to have Kirk on the call you know um go Texans but but hey I wanted to ask you um are you in regards to the national championship game on on on monday is anybody talking about the age differential between the two rosters yeah we were talking the other day about how indiana's uh roster age would be on the low end uh in terms of the youngest uh roster age for a national football league team that's for sure well the information and that i i read they're like they average around 23 and a half years was just like three and a half years older than the average roster at Miami right I know and listen and that's what makes it so interesting is in terms of so many different ways to preview this matchup again Malachi Tony is he's not even 18 right right I mean and so you're so it's almost like the it's almost like this perfect storm I mean he brings Cignettia obviously is is a great coach but the timing of bringing originally 13 players from jmu he's still got six or seven of them left he's it's like almost been a developmental squad and so it's almost like is this age versus talent you know you've not not that indiana doesn't have talent but but it's older and that may be a difference maker or at the end of the day listen whoever wins we're going to say they did it the right way.

5:36Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Like, that's the way we react in media. And we'll see, you know, Signetti doing what he's done in just three years coming to Indiana, and then obviously Miami doing what it has been doing all year, which is surprise people, whether it was being surprised that they made the playoffs or surprised with what they've done with their opportunity to make the playoffs. That's what's going to be discussed on Monday night. Well, yeah, Indiana did it the way of trying to go through the portal and trying to get a bunch of older players and then get together and try and beat up on the younger team, and it didn't work because youth and the talent of Miami and their grit and determination and their home field advantage ruled the day, even though their youth is also led by a quarterback in Carson Beck, who is in the same draft class as two guys starting playoff games last weekend and the wild card weekend in C.J.

6:30Rich Eisen:Stroud and Bryce Young. I mean, it's not like Carson Beck is some young 'un. He's damn near like the Brandon Whedon of the University of Miami. You know what I mean? Or it'll be like, hey, all you got to do is go on the portal and be smart and get a bunch of older players who are still terrific at what they do for their age. And they're a better coached opportunity because they're more mature. That's going to be the narrative Tuesday morning next week, Jeff. That's for sure. yeah it's gonna be interesting hey well thanks for taking my call thanks buddy love your show thank you so much that's jeff in texas you know that's gonna be it chris fowler's gonna be on the program on tuesday to talk about he's calling the game so that'll be it uh did i miss anything that that's well it's front row front loading a narrative by about 90 hours yeah um but uh and then we'll see tuesday morning if if signetti wins you get a phone call for any of these nfl teams.

7:29Rich Eisen:He's probably already gotten phone calls. I imagine he did. Hasn't been a representative. Well, Jeff Halfley is talking to the Steelers or the Steelers reached out to Jeff Halfley. You know how we know that? How do you know that? Because Tom Pelissero tweeted it during the segment with him. Remember he was looking down and I was busting his stones. I'm like, you know, hey, I'm used to talking to my kids that way. Hey, eyes here. Get your face out of your phone. He's doing a spell check. So he wasn't listening. The time stamp of the tweet matched up with his appearance on the program. He was on between 920 and 942 a.m.

8:06Rich Eisen:Pacific time right here. And at 935 a.m., he tweeted out the Steelers will interview Packers D.C. Jeff Halfley on Saturday for their head coaching job per source. No misspellings or anything. Good job, Tom. He also added the comma per source. You know, per source is the, I believe, Swedish source. Yes. Per. Her. Yeah, of the source family. Of course. Her sourcing. Her. That's okay. He can tweet and report and talk at the same time. He's versatile, man. He is that. Bet you didn't have pants on and wearing that suit. That's what he said he wasn't. All right. 844-204, which is the number to dial here on a busy Friday.

8:47Rich Eisen:Christian Kirk of the Houston Texans lurks. But first up, it's an overreaction. Oh, pardon me. It's a what's more likely Friday. What's More Likely presented by Pella Windows and Doors. Hit it. What? What's More Likely? Never say never, but never. All right, Chris, you got the Pella helmet in front of you. Love it. You got the Pella markings on the screen. You got the What's More Likely presented by Pella Windows and Doors. Hit it. Guys, we have four massive games. Happy Friday, everybody. Let's get right to it. fourth quarter, more likely fourth quarter magician quarterback to combine for more touchdowns on Saturday.

9:29Josh Allen, Bo Dix.

9:32Rich Eisen:Oh, I thought you were going to go with the Rams game. I'm going to go with Stafford. Oh, I see. But I thought in terms of fourth quarter magician quarterback, there's two of them in the Chicago Bears. Two of them hosting the Rams. Come on, man. I'm going to go with Josh Allen. So you're picking the Bills. you said fourth quarter magician quarterback to combine for more touchdowns what does that mean combine for more touchdowns rushing and passing okay I'll go with the guy who is one of the greatest in the history of the game already despite not even playing a full decade in the league rather than somebody who's going at it for the second time in the playoffs so you're picking the bills I'm picking Josh Allen in this scenario interesting you have placed it in a box or you You placed it on a topic bar.

10:21Rich Eisen:You don't like my answer? Is that what you're saying? I'm not. I'm not. Okay, what else you got over there? Seems disrespectful to both. It's not at all. You've told me what's more likely. Have you seen this picture going around of Haley Steinfeld from 2016 at a Broncos game? Yes. Why? Is she dressed in Broncos? Oh, yeah, she's dabbing. At the Super Bowl, full Bronco'd up doing the dab. Obviously, I'm sticking it to Cam. Well, as you know, I guess that's the trend right now is to post pictures from 2016. I did it. I did it last night. I saw that. Xander saw it, and he's like, whoa, Dad, you're actually following a trend.

10:53Rich Eisen:And I'm like, wait a minute. You went higher register on that. How dare he? How dare he? Who's more likely to reach the conference title games this weekend, guys? Both number one seeds, both number two seeds, or none of each? To reach conference title games, both one seeds, both two seeds, or none of each. um um let's go with uh i think it's more likely that both one seeds reach it what do you mean none of each that every road team wins this yeah upsets as you know my higher register is that more road teams than when the knot uh i aggregated i i did it really yeah oh Wow, really? People listen to what I'm saying and then repeat it?

11:42Rich Eisen:Yeah, buddy. Who aggregated it? The people who employ us. Oh, really? You and TJ got aggregated. Damn. For the first time, baby. Are you upset about that? Congrats. No, no, no. Mine always get aggregated out of context. Yeah, so he kind of feels... I'm kind of happy about it. I thought that's what it means to be aggregated. Yeah, but they don't put the context of what he's saying. So he gives like a... Oh, yeah, your higher register guy. Higher register. And my higher register guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But without the context of that, it's a bit. Right. People act like, I think that no one from the Rams has ever been in the cold.

12:15Rich Eisen:Yeah. Right. Yeah. The first time we got Blake Cormen coming on in hour three. And then someone goes, you know, they played the Eagles last year and it was cold. And I'm like, yeah, you know what happened that game, too? Well, I mean, Jalen Carter wasn't blocked. Otherwise, they would have won that game in the snow, pal. All right. So where are we again here? I'll go both. Both twos or none? I will say it's not likely that all four road teams win. And I don't know if both two seeds are going to make it. So I'll go both one seeds is the most likely scenario. Love it, Rich Eisen. Chris, I love being aggregated for the first time, by the way.

12:54Rich Eisen:It's fun. At 2Jiggy. Go follow him right now. You get aggregated and they throw your account out there for the first time and then all of a sudden Twitter goes down. That's weird. And I get no followers from it. That's weird. More likely, Offensive Player of the Year candidate. Twitter's down and hateful people are like, how will I make sure people know about my hate? That seems unnecessary to pile on like that. What? On what? On hateful people on Twitter? Trying to do the same thing. Well, that's also, I think that's also redundant. Yeah, understood. I still use Twitter actively. Oh, really? I have hate, but not that much.

13:27Offensive Player of the Year candidate to go for more yards. Christian McCaffrey rushing and receiving. Or JSN only receiving.

13:34Rich Eisen:Oh, gosh. That's easy. Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't you go with a guy? You're giving me an option of two paths to a total as opposed to one path to a total. What did he do a couple weeks ago? No, I hear you. No, he got smoked. Yeah. I kind of feel like McCaffrey's one of those dudes that's been stewing over not grabbing that pass. And the fact that they're sitting there in Seattle rather than at home will just remind him of that. And I think he's going to have a better day. Or a better night. I'll go with, but I'll just go with a guy who's got two paths to the total rather than one. Understood. Certainly if Drew Locke might be throwing the ball.

14:17Rich Eisen:I know. I don't even want, I'm sorry, I don't even want to put that in the ether. Don't put that evil out there, Bobby. Pray to the lords of the obliques. More likely to be the bigger number. Bummer, no, no George Kittle, obviously, with the injury last week. Jake Tongas receptions or Seahawks sacks on Brock Purdy. Oh, I'll go Seahawks-Sacks. I'll go Seahawks-Sacks. I got the game-winning touchdown week one. I'm very well aware of that. Yeah, man. This is Seahawks defense, dude. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah. So, yeah. Sacks on Purdy. Although this time around, Trent Williams will be suited.

14:59Rich Eisen:True. Jake Tong is going to hang this up on his locker. Well, I mean, with all due respect, man. And, I mean, so what are you saying? Like he's got five catches? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, sure, sure. Maybe they keep Purdy upright. I hear you. Hey, listen, for Niners fans' sakes, I hope I'm right about the McCaffrey one and wrong about this one. And for Seahawks fans' sakes, I hope I'm wrong about the JSN one and right about this one. I'm just trying to split things up. It's called what's more likely, not like what is consistent. Right, yeah. All right, let's go to Sunday. I'm placing markers.

15:33Let's go to Sunday. You know what I mean? Foxborough first up. More likely, more Will Anderson, Daniil Hunter have more sacks of Drake May, or the Patriots have more 20-plus yard plays.

15:47Rich Eisen:They're a big playoff. What's the weather like? I'm serious. Give me the weather here. It's kind of all over the place. Is it going to snow? Is it going to snow, and then all of a sudden, Hunter and Anderson are sliding all over the place? They can't get traction? Is that what's going to happen? Yeah. Sunday at 3 Eastern is looking like What is it? I'm waiting for the weather to load up. I don't know. Mid-30s, maybe some snow flurries. I'll go Anderson Hunter sacks. I'll go Anderson Hunter sacks. And snacks. They would have a snack of Drake May. Don't get that big without snacking. Drake May gets sacked a lot.

16:26Rich Eisen:20 plus yards on this Texans defense is saying a lot. It just is. It's a big play offense. I understand it is guys. Is there more likely to be more of combined? These two teams like to fumble Rich Eisen combined Patriots, Texans turnovers, or more combined touchdowns in the game. Oh, oh, oh, screw it. I'll just go combine touchdowns to keep it combined turnovers to, to, to make it interesting. Combined turnover. I just had a turnover and giving you my answer. Play the slow, play the slow, the slow sports center thing, dude, I have been talking for three hours a day at least for, let me get this right.

17:08Rich Eisen:Today will be day 12. Yeah. 13. Do you have a show tomorrow? Yeah, you do. Yeah, I do. Four and a half hours. And then four hours. And then three hours. And then Monday. All week. Tuesday. Yeah, yeah. It's all good. Listen. Brian, don't stop, Richey. It's all good. You know what I'm saying? No, it's all right. I'm ready to go. I stay hydrated. Try not to cramp up. You stay ready. I stay. So you ain't got to get ready. To talk ready. That's how we keep the lights on, Chris. That's right. That's true. We're going to talk to one of these guys in like an hour. Okay. Running back duo to go for more rushing yards.

17:41Kyron or Balake or DeAndre and Mononga.

17:45Rich Eisen:DeAndre and Mononga. It'll be a really cold game in Chicago. Oh, man. Sunday night. Oh, man. I think we're going to see a lot. Oh, man. I'm going to see. I think. How about this? I think my non-guy might lead everybody in rushing. Oh. Because he's the bruiser, man. He is a bruiser. And I think this is my non-guy weather, right? My young guy sees my non-guy weather. My non-guy weather. How can I look at my guy high-stepping on the screen right there? You know what I'm going to say here. Yeah, we know. Oh, come on. You know what I'm going to say here. What team number? 160? 144. Team 144. Something that no one started using.

18:24Rich Eisen:And if the – I know that exactly. I know people don't know that. Listen, you know why other people don't refer to their teams as Team 144? And you didn't do it either until like two years ago. Right, because there was no Team 144 for Michigan until they won it all as Team 144. And also, not many teams, programs can say we've had 144 different teams. You know what I mean? I'm just saying. Probably like Harvard and Yale, probably. There's a few of them. There's a few of them. Well, you know Harvard's the Michigan of the East. Yeah, I mean, I was kind enough to receive a game ball for the win in the Rose Bowl over Alabama, which was the penultimate win for Team 144.

19:04Rich Eisen:You know what it says on the side? Win 1 ,003. So I'll go with Blake Corum and Kyron Williams because I'm that guy. Although Monongah might lead them all in rushing. Monongah. See what I'm seeing? You see what I'm doing? I'm placing markers everywhere. It's like a don't pass and a yo. Okay. You know what I mean? Or a don't pass in a hard 10. That's right. You know what I mean? I feel you. I keep it real. I play the field. You know? Love a good hard 10. When the point's like a six. Oh, you're talking poker. No, I'm not. Oh, crap. God bless you. Crap, right? Crap, baby. More likely to be the higher total.

19:39Matthew Stafford passer rating in the freezing cold or Dodgers wins next year?

19:44Rich Eisen:Oh. Come on, man. Oh, I'll go Dodgers wins next year. Atta boy. I mean, what, does it be about 106? It's going to be a tough, I mean, passer rating. You can even win playoff games in the cold like this with a passer rating of 99 or 98. Yeah. Yeah. Don't turn it over. Great. And plus, I will say that because it'll be something that you won't be able to tell until, you know, next September. Who's going to remember this? You? You, Lieutenant Brockman? You? You? You? You? You? You? You? You? One more? Oh, my gosh. All right, let's hear from our boy. Play it. Roll it. Come on. My goal in life is to retire as the owner that won the most Super Bowls.

20:35All right. Let's run this bit back because it's too funny. To be retired in the NFL as the owner that won the most Super Bowls. It's too funny. We got to do it. Guys, is it more likely Jerry Jones wins the next four Super Bowls and retires, TJ, or P. Diddy swears off baby oil. Oh, come on.

20:55Rich Eisen:What are we doing here? You have to be smoking something over there. What else you got over there? Guys, is it more likely Jerry Jones wins the next four Super Bowls and retires or Leonardo DiCaprio dates someone age-appropriate?

21:11Last one. Is it more likely Jerry Jones wins the next four Super Bowls and retires or he himself sings a feature on a song during Bad Bunny's halftime.

21:26Rich Eisen:DJ, any of these? I will go with Jerry wins the next four Super Bowls. For all of them? For that last one. Oh, okay. Yeah. Although I do, I don't know about that. I think one of the members of the Jones family was talking about Bad Bunny being a good choice for the halftime show. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Good stuff, man. I appreciate the bits still coming on strong. Still kicking it. Very good. What's more likely is brought to you by Pella Windows and Doors. When it comes to your home, Pella Windows and Doors always have the winning game plan. That's why your neighbors trust them. Visit Pella.com slash Eisen.

22:05Rich Eisen:Christian Kirk, everybody of the Houston Texans, when we come back, what a crucial role he played last week and is going to have to play Sunday.

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24:42Rich Eisen:But joining us in advance of the divisional round road playoff game, trying to get to the Texans, the AFC championship game for the first time, ladies and gentlemen, Christian Kirk here on the Rich Eyes Show. Good to see you, Christian. How are you? I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. What was that night like for you, Monday night, Christian? Special, honestly. you know big time game wild card round you know it was a big big win for us to go on the road you know an environment like that obviously you know Steelers being the organization that they are you know I think this I forget what the stat was of you know how many games they had won in Monday night there in that stadium so for just us to be able to go on the road and to be able to have a big impact on you know us getting the win was you know obviously a great feeling just a fourth career playoff game for you and in this environment um in pittsburgh quite something no doubt uh if you don't mind straying out of our lane in your lane for the moment uh what what'd you think of when you heard the next day that mike tomlin was stepping down and that this was the last game of his legendary pittsburgh coaching career christian uh yeah Yeah, obviously the end to an amazing career.

25:54I have the utmost respect for Coach Tomlin, and I know the rest of the league does. I got a chance to visit with him when I was coming out for the draft and just always admired the way that he ran the organization, the way he treated his players, and just the impact that he had on the game. So I guess in a sense I'm honored to be a part of his last game coaching there as the Steelers head coach, and we'll see what's next for him.

26:20Rich Eisen:Were you in one of those vaunted meeting rooms at the combine when you chatted with him? Were you in that one of those or was it like a pro day visit or something like that? What was it? Yeah, it was one of those. They call them like top 30 visits where you get to go to the organization and visit. So it was one of those post combine. So let's talk about the journey of this team this year of the Houston Texans and yours yourself. Obviously, staying healthy has not been on occasion easy, but healthy you are, and you looked as healthy as it possibly can be in this game. Walk me through your journey of this year, you personally, before we get to your team, Christian.

27:04Yeah, personally, I had to weather the storm. It's been difficult, difficult more than others at times. you know the hamstring early in the year and just kind of trying to find my role within this offense and this team and just showing up every day and you know trusting the process and just doing what they're asking me to do to the best of my ability and you know we were winning games and you know that's that's why you play football and that's why I came here and so you know whether it was one catch or three catches or no catches I was just you know out there doing my job and trying to have an impact in whatever way that I could.

27:46Monday night, the seal kind of broke for me. I'm just, like I said, glad that when the opportunity presented itself, I was able to show that I still got a lot to give. I'm feeling good, feeling healthy, and just ready to keep making this playoff push.

28:04Rich Eisen:The 144 yards, again, is more yards than you had combined all the way from when you came back from injury to that night. And, you know, you missed, as you pointed out, a few weeks early on in the season. What did click on Monday night? And that's no joke of a defense it clicked against, Christian. Yeah, like you said, great scheme. Obviously, you know, their front is very challenging. And, you know, even on the back end as well, they did some things that, you know, presented some problems. But I think, you know, we just we caught him in man coverage, you know, a few times, especially on third down.

28:42And, you know, third down is money down. And you got to be able to separate. And CJ did a good job of stepping up in the pocket and, you know, giving us opportunities all night. Even some of the, you know, more explosive plays to me. You know, he did a great job maneuvering in the pocket and, you know, really giving me an opportunity to run under some of those. So, yeah, I think it's just, you know, we were able to click, you know, when we needed it the most. and we got some explosives out of it.

29:07Rich Eisen:Christian Kirk here on the Rich Eisen Show. Walk me through what makes D 'Amico Ryan special in your estimation. Christian? Yeah, special is definitely the word to describe him. I've loved every moment of just being around him. And from a leadership aspect, I think the accountability piece is the thing that jumps out to me. You know, and as a coach, he just does such a good job of, you know, establishing the culture. And, you know, everybody's bought into it, you know, from the janitors to the kitchen staff to the assistant. I mean, everybody has the same mentality. Everybody is here. And that was the one thing that really jumped out to me when I first got here is everybody's here to help get us to our ultimate goal.

29:56And that's to win a championship. and they all take on, you know, Coach, you know, Ryan's mentality and his approach. So it's been awesome playing for him.

30:07Rich Eisen:Yeah, and at 0-3, what was it like? I know right around then, you know, your team was adrift at that point in time. You were only a couple weeks away from going through your injury. It must not have been a fun time, But what was it like for this team then, Christian? Yeah, I think, you know, being a part of it, and I've been a part of teams that have gone through, you know, a slide like that, you know, where you drop a few, especially early in the season. And, you know, obviously it's a little bit of a different situation. We start off 0-3, but everybody knew the type of talent and the type of team that we had in the building.

30:52It was just getting us to, you know, execute and start playing, you know, complimentary football. And it was it was, you know, you look back at the games that we lost. They're all one score games and it was just like one or two plays here. And obviously in the NFL at this level, that that'll get you beat one or two plays. And it was just eliminating those mistakes. And, you know, we finally were able to, you know, get on the winning side of things and find that recipe. But I think it just it speaks to the leadership in the locker room. You know, guys didn't blink. Guys didn't get down on themselves.

31:24The confidence was still there because, like I said, day in and day out, you know, we knew the type of team that we had, and we just had to go out there on Sunday and put it all together.

31:32Rich Eisen:And then down 19, staring a season sweep in the face at the hands of the team that, you know, you were just playing for in Jacksonville, and then the comeback hits, and you haven't lost since then. What was it like in that moment on the sideline there? Christian Kirk. If you're like me and my family, you're all about creating amazing memories while on vacation. And for me, many of those have involved a home we found on Airbnb. We had such great experiences that whenever we travel somewhere new, we always check Airbnb first to find a place that fits our needs. The homes we've stayed in, comfortable, safe, private.

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33:19Call 1-800-GRANGER, click granger.com, or just stop by. Yeah, an incredible game, one that I definitely won't ever forget. I had been a part of some good comebacks, and that's definitely up there. And yeah, it's just, I think in that game, it kind of encapsulated our season of just weathering the storm. You know, even when you're down and out and everybody's telling you that you have no chance, you know, you just keep playing the next play. And that's one thing, you know, D 'Amico always talks about is just playing the next play and, you know, extreme ownership to your job and executing at the fullest.

33:56And, you know, who knows what's going to happen when you do that? And it's usually good things. And, yeah, just another game that you look back on. And, you know, it makes sense that, you know, we've been able to put some games together and be where we are today.

34:10Rich Eisen:Christian Kirk, a few minutes left with the Houston Texans wide receiver here on the Rich Eisen Show. One last what is it like question for you. What is it like to go against your defense in practice? Yeah, I just look back to training camp. And after the first couple of days, I was looking around like, is it always like this? Are we like, are we going to start, you know, scheming some things up? Because, you know, it's kind of hard to move the ball and make some plays. Yeah, I mean, they immensely talented. What you see on Sundays is what we get day in and day out. It obviously makes us better because you're going against the best every single day.

34:54and I could go on and on and on about each guy and what they mean to that defense and what they mean to our team, but they play as a unit. They play for one another and they are the identity of swarm mentality and it speaks for itself every time they're out there and I'm glad I'm on their team.

35:18Rich Eisen:Again, Christian, we at NFL Network did Texans Chargers Week 17. we asked everybody on the team that we were able to speak to prior to the game. You were not one of them. The same question, I'll ask it to you as well. The player with the best hands on the team is, who has the best hands on the Houston Texans? Christian Kirk. I mean, I think that I would be wrong if I didn't say myself. Okay. But taking myself out of it, I would say Nico. And I think his ability to catch some of those contested catches over the middle and whatnot, uses size and speed, he's definitely got sure hands. Okay. Does it affect you or offend you that the answer, almost unanimously, was Derek Stingley Jr.?

36:08Rich Eisen:Christian? Oh, forgot about Sting. Sting's got good hands. Sting's got great hands. Because normally people who play his position play that position because they can't catch, right? Yeah. You know what I mean? But, you know, there was even conversation that he would have been the best on his college team that included Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. Look, I don't really have a rebuttal to that. Okay. I've definitely seen Sting. Obviously, this year he had a one-handed pick against Jacksonville. Some of the catches he has in practice, I mean, he's a freaking nature so uh yeah i would agree with that okay um and then is it which is the guy on your defense that you during practice say i'm glad i don't have to go against that guy this week uh who's that probably uh either will or daniel i don't know how you could look at i don't know how you could look at either of those guys and say i would i would love to go against him on sunday that's that's just a problem that i don't i don't want to have to handle and like i said i'm glad i'm I'm on their team.

37:20Rich Eisen:Yeah, you don't have to chip them in practice, right? No. Okay, we're not doing that. Thank goodness. Okay, we're not doing that. All right, and not to turn you into my information man here, but how is Nico right now for this game? Yeah, doing good. Obviously, the protocol is the protocol. So, you know, he's taking it day by day, and, you know, we've been checking on him and just wishing that, you know, he has a speedy recovery. And what's being discussed about the weather? I don't know if you've seen the weather. We could have a snow game on our hands in Foxborough. Christian, you seen that? No, this is first I've heard of it.

37:57So, yeah, weather's the weather. We just know that when that ball set down and the whistle's blown, we're ready to go. Okay, all right.

38:06Rich Eisen:So there's, you know, you got the cold weather gear. You got it working. What do you got? What do you think if it's really cold? How do you prepare for such a thing? You know, this year has been the first year I've used a little hand warmer cutout in my jersey. That's been something nice that the Texans have provided me. So I've been enjoying that. You know, I got some of those hand warmers in there. So, I mean, as long as the hands and the feet are warm, I'm good. I mean, you played in Arizona. You played in Jacksonville. You know what I mean? Like, these are not cold weather environments. No, not at all.

38:46Yeah, I'm not going to shy away from the fact that I haven't lived or been anywhere that is remotely cold. So, but I'm able to get through. I'm able to bear it.

38:58Rich Eisen:Okay, last two for you. You're a quarterback, C.J. Stroud. He doesn't seem to show much emotion even when things are not, you know, sticking to his hands like they were on Monday night. What's he been like this week and also in the huddle? So, Christian, what do you have for me on your quarterback here? Yeah, I mean, same guy. Like you said, he doesn't waver, doesn't blink. He understands the ebbs and flows of the game. And he wants to be great. So, you know, this week, been super locked in, had a great last two days of practice. And, you know, once CJ's at his best, you know, we can accomplish anything as an offense.

39:39And, you know, just with the way he's been preparing, his communication uh you know that's one thing he's really great at you know especially throughout the week is just communicating uh with us not only as receivers but offensive line what he likes what he doesn't like uh and i think that's key you know from that position and he does a great job so um you know i definitely expect him to to go out there uh on sunday and be at his best okay and

40:03Rich Eisen:then on sunday you will know uh christian kirk if you and your teammates have the right to win a game and host an AFC championship game. We'll already know if the bills have knocked off the Broncos. And if that happens, your game is for the right to host an AFC championship game, which would obviously be a nice twist in your journey to the Superbowl. Potentially. Do you allow yourself to sit around and think about playing in Superbowl 60? Do you let your mind wander at all? And if so, what, what you think about Christian? I honestly don't because I can't. It's hard to imagine something that you can't experience if you don't win the one that's in front of you.

40:49So to me, this is this game is the biggest game because we got to earn the right to be able to even go play for that. So I've learned I've played in this league long enough that if you start looking forward and past what's right in front of you, it'll sneak up and bite you. So I'm just relishing in the opportunity to play in New England in the divisional round to keep our season alive.

41:17Rich Eisen:Well, the kid in the backyard, Christian, you used to be, I'm sure, is like, what gives? You dreamt of it, I'm sure, this moment. And then on top of it, you know, the Super Bowl's in the spot where your coach started his coaching career. It would be quite a moment, I think, for all of that. That's my one last swing to make you think about it. You know, for sure. I mean, look, I won't lie that everybody wants to play in a Super Bowl. I want to play in a Super Bowl. I've always dreamt of it. And I realize that we have the opportunity that if we keep winning, we'll be able to play in one. So, yeah, it would be great.

41:54I'm sure a dream come true for all of us. But like I said, we got to go win this one first.

41:58Rich Eisen:Well, it's a pleasure for me to sit here on your journey here, having been around peripherally, seeing you in London a couple years ago when you were with the Jaguars a couple of years in a row. To see you in this position, seeing you balling out on Monday night, seeing the Texans being able to get into the AFC Championship game for the first time, I appreciate you giving me the time. And I wish you the best of luck. Of course. Thanks, Rich. Always good to speak to you. Right back at you. That's Christian Kirk getting set for the Texans to take on the Patriots to kick off Divisional Playoff Sunday right here on the Rich Eisen Show.

42:34Rich Eisen:All right, there you go, Chris. There's Christian, Christopher. Yes, sir. On different sides of the Sunday contest. Sure. It's going to be a fun game. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial Blake Corum top of the next hour. I'll still have my top five list. That's coming up. Get you set for divisional playoff weekend. Coming back.

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43:26Rich Eisen:That's LinkedIn.com slash Eisen to post your job for free. Terms and conditions apply. So I referenced it the other day, alluded to it in my open to preview the divisional playoff weekend, the Rams and the Bears. Listen, two guys who can dial it up, two guys who are really intense, two guys who are young. and on a heater when it comes to call and plays. And Ben Johnson in his first year as head coach of the Chicago Bears is in fact, as you know, intense guy. He's also the first coach to have his offense top five in the league and lead his team to the playoffs to go and turn around. An offense to go from the pits of the offense to be a playoff team in his first year on the sideline.

44:29Rich Eisen:Last guy to do that was Sean McVay. So those two guys know what it's like to turn an offense around, install one, make a young quarterback drafted first overall, feel confident. And off you go like they were with Goff, who they eventually swapped out for their current quarterback, and Caleb Williams in Chicago. Chicago and Ben Johnson as Kyle Brandt was talking about this week does not care that he's saying F the Packers every single Bears fan we talk to says love it love it he's insane but he's our insane guy good better best whatever it takes to get this team going Caleb Williams going the way that he's going does not care that he went ahead and said F the Packers F Green Bay that whole business and Matt LaFleur on the wrong end of a handshake that gets quicker and more of a swim move every time.

45:18Rich Eisen:And we, again, talked about how the Rams aren't in this rivalry, Green Bay versus Chicago normally, but when it feels personal against Matt LaFleur, who Sean McVay considers a de facto brother and has as his offensive coordinator, Matt LaFleur's actual brother. When it comes down to it, will that make a difference? Really only matters about executing in the trenches, things of that nature, but one never knows. And Sean McVay was, in fact, asked about, has he reached out to Matt LaFleur this week before taking on Matt's new nemesis? Matt LaFleur, obviously, big in Green Bay. And my thing on your staff, he's played with Matt Johnson three times.

46:09Rich Eisen:Yeah. What would you guess? Now, you know what? We watch the tape. We do our work. And, you know, Matt is a very close friend of mine.

46:21Rich Eisen:So, yes? Oh, yeah. Very much yes. Oh, yeah. Very much yes. You know, our old friend from Good Morning Football, not just Kyle Brent, Peter Schrager mentioning on a podcast this week that the Rams have taken notice, particularly of Ben Johnson's demeanor in relation to Matt LaFleur and are coming to exact a piece on their behalf, obviously. But why, again, and I said this when you brought it up, if I'm Jared Verse, why do I care? Like, how's that giving me any extra motivation? It's not that. It's the coaching staff maybe pushing the pedal to the metal a little bit if they have that opportunity.

47:09Rich Eisen:Just it's something to keep in the mind's eye. Like I said, they want to win because they want to go to the Super Bowl. Jared Verse wants to go to the Super Bowl. Jared Verse wants to be great. Whatever. But if there's anybody who wants to do it for Mike on behalf of his brother who's been disrespected and thus, you play whatever disrespect card you want. And I'd have to imagine that Ben Johnson would have to tip his cap to it. Well, we have an actual Los Angeles Ram coming up. Maybe we'll ask Blake Corum. He can tell us. You never know. We can tell Blake Corum, hey, he disrespected Ohio State.

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In ‘What’s More Likely’ Rich weighs in on Josh Allen vs Bo Nix, Christian McCaffrey vs Jaxon Smith-Njigba, the Houston Texans pass rush vs New England Patriots QB Drake Maye, the Los Angeles Rams vs the Chicago Bears, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, and the Dodgers’ potential win total for the 2026 season. Texans WR Christian Kirk tells Rich his thoughts on playing against Mike Tomlin in his final game coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers, how head coach DeMeco Ryan’s positive culture helped Houston overcome their 0-3 start to the season, reveals what it’s like going up against the Texans’ formidable defense every day in practice, and
discusses the challenges of facing the New England Patriots in the Divisional Round. Rich previews the intriguing stakes in the Rams vs Bears Divisional Round matchup.

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