Hour 3: ‘4-Downs’ Chiefs Season Preview, plus ‘Super Troopers 3’ Stars Jay Chandrasekhar and Kevin Hefferman In-Studio

24:44Rich Eisen:There you go. Are you a Knicks fan too, Kevin? I am, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But I had kind of fallen off until maybe five years ago. I think it was like once the Don Nelson era started, maybe it was. I can't remember what it was. The Jeff Hordesek era? Yeah, yeah. That kind of Isaiah. Or Rambus? The Isaiah era. It's over, man. Those days are over. But now we're back. so you know they're so over yeah um how do you guys go about writing the script together what do you do what's your what's your problem well there are five of us so we each write 20 pages the first draft and then we put it together and it's the tone is off and the the villains are misnamed and five different individuals yes five different 20 pages yeah and then we look at it like i like this tone and i like these jokes and we rewrite our sections okay and we rewrite them again and eventually one guy takes it over and becomes appointment and then he has to sort of smooth it all out and then basically 32 drafts later we shoot the film no kidding after a lot of brawls yeah that's some serious collaboration though we went to college together we all went to college together so we met when we were 18 years old where which college colgate university colgate university yeah go figure that yeah yeah go raiders and so you and then okay so who met who first we met in the lobby uh in the foyer of our fraternity when we were being yelled at by some senior guy and i look over and i heard he was like the the funny guy like in the class and i'm like yeah we'll see about that uh and uh as it turned out when when the class voted our senior year he he won the funniest guy in the class and i was number two voting uh and he had to give the speech.

26:32I was selected to speak

26:33Rich Eisen:at the commencement. I got to drink for it. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. And then who first came up with an idea for Super Troopers? Who came up with that one? Jay kind of had studied improv stuff in Chicago and so he brought it to Colgate. We started doing a comedy group there. Were you the first? Yes, and it still exists. You planted the comedy flag at Colgate. We did, yeah, and the group still exists and here's the other thing, which is cute. both our kids are at Colgate and they're both in the group that we started right now. Wow. Yeah. Get out of here. Yeah. Many years later. Who's better though.

27:10My daughter's the president of the group. She's the president. So, um, yeah. What does that mean? I don't know. She has executive charge. Yeah. She gets veto power. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. She decides what happens, what gets on stage. But yeah, so we did that and then, um, moved to New York, started doing shows, made an independent film called puddle cruiser. We brought to Sundance. Yeah. And then that became the calling card. And we went and made this movie, Super Troopers, for a million bucks. And when did you realize it was just going to, it was hitting? It was hard because, you know, that was the era of DVD, right?

27:42So the movie had a little bit of a life in the movie theaters back then. But it was really like three years later, like you're walking down the street in New York and some guy's like, hey, you! You know, and it was because people used to pass the DVDs around. And our movie was the thing you passed around in the dorm rooms and things like that. And so it was a slow burn for us. It was also, you know, whenever you would drive around and you'd occasionally get pulled over, it started to be that the cop would walk up to the thing and go, do you know how, oh, I'm sorry, sir. You have a good day. Like it went over and over and over.

28:16Yeah, we got out a lot of tickets. Are you serious? He was driving down to San Diego to throw out the first pitch at Petco or something. Yeah, we were doing a Padres game. And he was late, so he's driving like 110 miles an hour. No, well, maybe not that fast. Pretty much, right? Ish. You can take it over. Well, the guy pulled me over, and he's like, where are you going in such a hurry? And I was like, what you always try to do is to drop Super Troopers so that you can get out of the thing. So I was like, well, I'm heading down to throw out the first pitch at the Padres game. And he kind of looked at me and was like, who are you to throw out the first pitch at a Padres game?

28:45No, you did not. Yeah. And I was like, well, I made a movie called Super Troopers. And he's like, oh, oh. And then he walked away, and he came back to the car a few minutes later, and he said, can I give you an escort to the stadium? and I was like, all right, yeah, sure and so he gave me an escort to the stadium and I got there and there's like three cops standing in front of the station when I get there and I step out of the car and he goes, oh, thank God you made it and I was like, what do you mean? He goes, well, it went out over the radio that Favre got pulled over and we thought, you might not make it on time so we're happy that you made it so I got like red carpet treatment you know, throwing out the first pitch of the Padres game

29:18Rich Eisen:and then the follow-up is did you throw a strike? I always throw a strike okay yeah all right, Louisiana Lightning Yeah, I always do it right. It was more of an Ephus pitch, but, you know, that's fine. Although, did you see Kerry Woods pitch for the Savannah Bananas? Behind his back. Did you see that? Yeah. This was at Wrigley Field. And it was a strike. That was one of the most incredible things I've seen in a long time. I haven't seen it. Oh, yeah. He steps to the mound. It's Wrigley Field. He's there for the Savannah Bananas, and you're thinking he's going to throw one of those, you know, Frisbees, right?

29:49Rich Eisen:Yeah. Where he threw 20 strikeouts that one day. I was on SportsCenter that day, as a matter of fact. I remember that day. and he threw a behind-the-back EFISH bitch that landed. That was the most incredible things I've ever seen. Yeah. I'm going to do that next time. That was so cool. Take that. Okay. But that's pretty cool that you got out of a ticket. Yeah, I mean, it's happened. What's the line that you get the most? I don't know if I can say it, but in the first movie, I call these people chicken lovers. I can't say the real word, but I always get yelled, people yell that at me. Hey, so-and-so.

30:24No kidding. chicken lover yeah we did a crowdfunding thing for the second movie and you got to buy people got to buy the opportunity for me to call them chicken lover on video and uh people paid good money yeah charity to get that yeah i got thousands 1500 1500 and i stood there for four days into the camera hey jim you're a chicken lover hey paul you're a chicken lover it went on for three days

30:49Rich Eisen:what's the wait for the movie yeah that helps uh what's the line you get who wants a mustache ride where's the craziest place the weirdest place you've gotten that uh i mean it you know it happens a lot like it's you know it happens on both sides sometimes it's women i want a mustache ride sometimes it's men i want a mustache ride as well so you know it's everywhere have you have you ever been in a situation where it was set in front of your your kid and you had to explain what that you know no luckily i think our fans are sophisticated oh is that right they won't put you in that position yeah they wouldn't do that they are um before i before i let you go brian cox is in super yeah coxie what we're i mean how how cool as that it's uh it's awesome but you know the way we communicate in our group is sort of through insult it's like endless constant insult yes and so brian will show up on set and he kind of remembers that's the vibe and then he starts insulting you but he doesn't have it calibrated quite right and so he hits you very hard very hard what do you mean well like well but also like he you know since we did the second one he made succession right and made this iconic character yes right where now he's this logan roy character and he leans into it and so he comes to the set and he's throwing f-bombs and yelling at everybody i mean it's you know it's somewhat endearing but it's still intimidating yes yeah but he's like besides super troopers what else have you done and he's like kidding and i'm like really really but i could just hear him say it in his voice oh yeah like logan roy yeah it's scary i know but he keeps coming back which is great yeah and we're not paying him so you know but he must enjoy it right he must get you know obviously gets your humor and yeah and um that's cool yeah yeah you got him back yeah for this um he's making money from mcdonald's now you did some how many rested developments did you uh i did uh i think four four or five yeah which in the early i was like in the like number three like in the first two seasons i did i did two with julia louis dreyfus okay uh i did one called my mother the car and then i did one uh called uh hermanos but they they're all like trying to go to court and they're all they get into a brawl at the end the three brothers sounds like a lot of episodes of arrested development yeah it was great it was a great place to be we were we all thought we were making the funniest show on television that nobody was watching well i mean it the number of times that that that Arrested Development just rolls into my algorithm every now and then right now.

33:37Rich Eisen:And it's just one brilliant moment after another. You're wondering if they would be able to make it today. You know what I mean? Like for the rest of development. I think they could. You mean because of how edgy it is? Some of the edginess. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Lucille Bluth is, you know, she's like an aristocratic. I wouldn't call her a racist. I would say she has racial tones to her, to her barbs. Indeed. But she's fabulous. I mean, but the crew to the cast that you were, you were directing. You couldn't pay for them to get. Well, it was, no, it was, it was really an incredible situation.

34:15The writing was so great. And, you know, you end up like, like there was a, there were times you're directing, you know, when you're, I was maybe 25 then. So when you were a 25 year old and you walk on the set and there are older actors, they instantly resist you. They're like, who are you? Why are you here? Like Liza Minnelli, you know, she was just like, she's supposed to say, uh, I can't remember what the line is, but let's say it's like, uh, I'll call the doctor. And I'm like, you know, and she just won't say the line. And then the, the showrunner, Mitch Hurwitz is like, get her to say the line.

34:50Cause that's my job. And I go in there, I'm like, you know, the line is, uh, I'll call the doctor. She goes, you got it boss and i'm like okay and we'd go and she just wouldn't say it wouldn't say it so i just stood behind the camera i'm like i'll call the doctor i'll call the doctor i'll call the doctor and finally she goes i'll call the doctor happy and you're like

35:13Rich Eisen:thank you liza damn directing liza minnelli yeah it was pretty cool as long as she says the line And eventually I'm happy. I love it. Super Troopers three again in theaters nationwide Friday, August 7th. Everybody go check it out. And I appreciate you guys stopping by here. Thank you. Thanks for having us. I've got a Jay Chandra Sekar and Kevin Heffernan. Again, stuck the landing. That's it, man. Nailed it. That's it. I know you guys. You're a professional. Super Troopers three. Everybody go check it out. We're back to wrap things up. I've got a Kansas city chiefs season preview in a four downs format coming up next.

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38:12Rich Eisen:trick to learn more. Loans originated by SoFi Bank and a member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891. Everybody. Ben Johnson's talking right now. Chris, you got in my ear during the commercial break saying Jerry Jones is talking his head off right now. Jerry Jones is saying something. That is exactly how we're going to start tomorrow. I'll tell you that right now. Trying to find some things out, Rich. I'll tell you that right now. What are you finding out? We're not done is all I'm saying. I don't think we're done yet assembling this. Done what? Assembling the team? Yeah. There's players out there that Unk still has his eye on.

38:46Rich Eisen:Max Crosby? Yeah. Do you want the quote? Oh, yeah, sure. Andrew Siciliano has it on his Twitter. Our friend Jane Slater asked Jerry Jones why he walked away from Max Crosby trade talks in March. Jerry, quote, we didn't. We did not walk away. We understood his injury well. We thought he could help us then. Meaning what? Jerry also said that he's still working on some things. and everybody's putting two and two together, that means that it's Max Crosby? Correct. Bust the budget. Bust it. Brother, your Cowboys had Max Crosby before the beginning of the season, and then we're talking about something that I've already been cutting around the edges of.

39:31Rich Eisen:Putting them in, you know, didn't I put them in top five in my way too early power rank? They were like five or seven. Okay. But you had them up there. Let's not get there yet. When the ducks quack, feed them. That's it. Right. Because when you take the bus, eventually you get there. Well, and then walk away, which means, as you know, we led the show with Aaron Donald coming back and how that affects the entirety of the National Football League. Because if the Rams get him back, and everybody thinks the Rams are the favorites to win the Super Bowl this year, that just increases their chances to win it with Aaron Donald coming back.

40:12Rich Eisen:Dallas Cowboys saying, okay, you know, we got Rashawn Gary and we already had Quinn and Williams and we're going to put Max Crosby on the other end of it. Oh, baby. Okay. Now, you know, I don't know how that fits cap wise. I don't know how that is in compensation. I don't know if the Raiders would even go ahead and do it. The fact that he's Jerry saying they're not done adding players. You know what that means, man. you know that means okay there's somebody on somebody else's team some third string linebacker that we got our eyes on could start for us that's what he means after jane slater asks him did you walk away from max tross because we didn't we totally knew what his deal was everybody's putting two and two together and thinking the condor which got the side of the helmet with a star on it let's just pump the brakes a little bit here but if that happens that shall accelerate conversations on shows like this one.

41:05Rich Eisen:And takes that go first. You know, Dr. Dan Cooper, he knows all about what's going on with Max. Takes that go first. There you go. Good. So keeping an eye on all of that. Aaron Rodgers spoke for the first time. This is what he had to say about this season being his last. Yeah, this is it. You know, I guess why, what is it, why is this it? I thought last year might be it. And then Mike got hired and I talked to the wife and she said, you can do one more year. I said, well, see if it works out. And then it kind of all came together. And then it's one more year. Isn't it funny? Everybody's just like, how much more are you going to play?

41:48Rich Eisen:How much more are you going to play? And then he says, actually, this is it. You know, you're always asking me when it's going to be. And I'm telling you, this is it. Now it's like, why not more years?

41:58Rich Eisen:why is it it okay that just listen you know how this just makes the steel is that much more interesting you take a look at aaron rogers his farewell last year would have been a perfect farewell tour uh because he played the north yeah but he played the north and then he played you know the jets he played yeah he played the east you know now i mean at new england's pretty damn big too. That's fun. But the rest of them I mean it just becomes that much more interesting when he's facing these teams. And hopefully he stays healthy and we see the Steelers do what they would hope Rodgers could do in his final season there.

42:38Rich Eisen:But it's so funny. It's just like when are you going to stop playing Aaron? When are you going to stop playing? Well I'm telling you this is it. Why not? More. You sure? You sure the missus won't enjoy watching you play another year? 844-204-RICH is always the number to dial on the program. Four downs. It's very rare that we would have the Chiefs in the first 10 of these. But the Chiefs didn't have a great final record last year, to say the least. In a very disappointing, injury-marred 2025 season. Here's my 2026 season preview. Four downs form on the Kansas City Chiefs. Four downs with Rich. Here we go.

43:22Rich Eisen:All right, everybody. Let's get right into it. Four downs on the Kansas City Chiefs. And first down. First down. Will the Chiefs dare, dare to have a thousand-yard rush? Will they dare do it? Kareem Hunt, last one to do it. And it wasn't in Kareem Hunt 2.0. It was his first run at it with the Chiefs. It has been a while. Kenneth Walker, they went in free agency and got the Super Bowl MVP from Seattle and say, let's go. And you look at the depth chart for the Kansas City Chiefs and Kareem Hunt's not on it. You might sit here and think, oh, OK, he's still with the team. He is not anymore. Their fifth round selection out of, pardon me, Nebraska.

44:13Rich Eisen:Emmitt Johnson is their backup running back. And then Amari Demarcato, a lot of folks recall him from Arizona. He's their third string running back. What does the running game look like? Is a first crack at a down here. Second down. The Chiefs secondary going back to the future. Legereus Sneed is back, everybody. And then they went ahead and drafted the replacement, if you will, for Trent McDuffie, one of the best corners to come out in the draft in some time. A lot of folks think Mansour Delane is ready to roll defensive rookie of the year candidate. We'll see what Coach Spaggs can do with him because these kids on the back end, if they're going to have trouble getting some pass rush up front, they're going to be tested.

45:03Rich Eisen:Now, they could help that pass rush up front. Chris Jones getting longer in the teeth, but he's still first-bound Hall of Famer as far as I'm concerned. George Karlofta sitting right there. Nick Bolton right in the middle of this defense as well. But the back end, I'm curious to see what it looks like with Brett Veach remaking it. Here's third down. It's a simple question because everybody's wondering about Kansas City Chiefs offense. Can they be explosive or not? Once again, we just talked about the run game. Can they have that explosive passing game again? And it all depends on can they trust and count on Rasheed Rice?

45:41Rich Eisen:I mean, this guy has been nothing but a disappointment on his availability and his off-the-field decisions is a very light-touch way to put it with Rasheed Rice. Can they get him on the field and keep him on the field? And will he be able to keep himself on the damn field? Because you've got Xavier Worthy, you've got Tyquan Thornton, and you've got a whole bunch of guys in that receiver room that a lot of people have not heard of. And it all depends upon, obviously, the fourth down question. It's how healthy and pissed off is Patrick Mahomes. How pissed off is he going to come to the four here?

46:17Rich Eisen:Oh, you're done. Everybody's done. This whole team is done. You know, the dynastic window is closed. And Mahomes, we're wondering how healthy he can be. And will he be able to keep running? And, you know, the league unnamed, I just went ahead and agreed with him because I need to see how healthy he is, named Josh Allen the best quarterback in the national football. Not him. He's number two on the list. He was number two on my list as well. How healthy is he going to be? I think he's going to be out there week one. How pissed off is he going to be? Let's get that red ass back out there, man. He'll get handled when he gets handled.

46:53Rich Eisen:Yeah, I want that, Mahomes. I want to see him. Because if he's going to be like, oh, it's Denver's division, huh? Is that what it is? Oh, the Chargers have got everybody now, huh? Okay, I get it. Let's remind everybody, I'm Patrick Mahomes. These are the Kansas City Chiefs. That's Andy Reid. And I'm pissed. And healthy. because that, I think, is a massive decisive factor on whether the Chiefs are, quote-unquote, back or not. That's my four downs on the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs are favored to win the division. And I'm here for it. I am here for it. 15's that man. He is indeed. That wraps up this Tuesday's show.

47:31Rich Eisen:We will chat with you on Wednesday, except for the Disney Plus audience. We're right back there. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. you can watch and listen to the rich heisen show live weekdays from noon to three eastern on espn radio disney plus and on the espn app the rich heisen show the podcast