Hour 3: Charlie Sheen Talks Major League, Platoon & More In-Studio; NFL Week 5 Higher Register

23:05I overslept.

23:07Rich Eisen:Okay. But I only stayed up until like 3 in the morning. Okay. And I hadn't been up since the day before for the math to work for 40 hours. Okay, I see what you're saying. So that's an exaggeration. Yeah, there was no dope in the mix. That's the thing, yeah. There was just like trying to be cool and method. So where were you when you were? This was the very beginning of your career, right? Early on. Early on. John Hughes directing. Yes. And Jennifer Gray was in the scene with you. Jennifer got me the job. How so? She told John Hughes, I think I know who should play this role. and the character's name was garth yes um and he said who who might that be and she said my friend charlie sheen and so and so i went down there and this is in the book and and um thought i was going to audition didn't he just looked at how i'd prepared and what i was wearing and and said oh great we'll see you in a week i was like oh okay and then i showed up in a wink just not at the time they said i was supposed to be there and um so it's it's it's pretty funny because because jennifer was like really mad she was she was on a heater when i rolled in because she put herself out yeah yeah yeah and i was showing up like a rank amateur you know and so uh in that in those first few shots in that police station where you see her you know that that that that is all genuine there's no there's no acting on on on her part because she's legit oh yeah oh Oh, yeah.

24:36Rich Eisen:Man, who knew you were helping her get into character? Did you at least tell her that afterwards? No, but I mean, I think this 20 years later, it's pretty apparent. Yes, right. Nice. Next one up. True or false. Oliver Stone made the cast of Platoon go through a pre-shoot boot camp. Everyone was treated according to the rank of their character in the movie. True. Like true, all caps, true. How so, all caps? Just that, yeah, it was an intense three weeks in the Philippine jungle, completely cut off from the outside world. We dug our own foxholes and lived in them. Nobody showered for three weeks.

25:16and yeah you were treated you you were you went only by your character name and whatever rank you were in the platoon is is how you you know where you fell on that on that ladder did

25:30Rich Eisen:anybody take it too seriously or you're just being pros here like where they treated the rank like maybe knocking you down a peg because they were getting into the role of being outranking you or anything like that anything in that regard um charlie yeah there was a couple there was a couple times yeah um i mean there's a term in the military it's it's the it's the f it's the fng yes okay the freaking new guy okay yeah so i got i got a lot of that from who do you remember from uh from berenger a little bit um from mcginley mcginley yeah from from from captain dale die um yeah but that was just because you know we had to feel what that that specific detail might feel like you know did you save one of your fellow actors in the shoot of platoon like literally save one of their lives as well no i got saved by a fellow actor by keith david who plays king in the movie okay it was in a it was a helicopter sequence that um we we were supposed to just go up and oliver just wanted some just some shots like buzzing the tree line and and just inserts of us and shooting over our shoulders out into the into those canopies and um we hit a wind shear and the chopper like pitched left and my feet were on the skid and i could you know we weren't we weren't harnessed in damn i know and so i started i started feeling myself like leaving the helicopter and this hand like grabbed the back of my web gear and just held me until the chopper righted itself right and yeah it was it was a trip i mean it was well i mean when you're going through this boot camp were there any i guess flashbacks for lack of better phrase to you being a kid on the set of apocalypse now with your dad impossible not to to have them yeah and and maybe not so much flashbacks but just trying to come to terms with the reality that i was just here well not just but 10 years earlier while dad you know with dad and he's narrating his vietnam film and i and i come back a decade later to narrate mine and literally like some of the sets on apocalypse based on where we shot platoon were were you know a quarter mile away like we were in the same region damn yeah that'd freak out a little bit odds yeah that that's the only thing i had to sort of sort of just fight through that all right this was meant to be this is this is this is it's it's my turn and that's okay but it was yeah who who who could have predicted that yeah i'm wondering if you would tell beringer who's the new guy around here i was here as an 11 year old what the hell you know i should be giving it to you thank you that's what you should have been doing you're absolutely right you're just being a professional i understand yes thank Thank you.

28:20Rich Eisen:Speaking of Oliver Stone, next up, Charlie Sheen. True or false, Oliver let you choose between Jack Lemmon and Martin Sheen to play your father in Wall Street. Is that true? Wow. He did mention Jack, but I don't know that it was. They're both available. Choose one. Okay. So that's false then. I just can't remember if he told me after the fact, after Dad got the part, that he was seriously considering Jack Lemmon. But what was that like acting with your dad in an Oliver Stone movie, like Wall Street? It was amazing. It was amazing. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't really bringing my A game during Wall Street.

28:57There was a lot of distractions, a lot of fun stuff going on that wasn't taking place at Jackson Steinem. That's our trading firm in that movie. I'm aware of that. Yes, Bud Fox. I'm aware of that. Yeah. But no, it was, especially that scene in the elevator. I mean, come on, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I cover that in the book. That, you know, he's, dad can be a little bit crafty when he wants to be.

29:29Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, I know you got into the book, but if you want to reveal a little bit for our audience here. Oh, yeah, yeah, no. He never, that classic line where, you know, the size of his wallet, you know, that thing. He never did that in a rehearsal. That happened in the first take when they rolled. And so I'm just waiting for it as he was doing it. And suddenly it's, you know, half my face is on the on the elevator wall. Right. You know. Right. Yeah. No, it's it's it's a it's a it's a different level of surprise. You know, hopefully more than Rob got in fatigues with a ball bat on Halloween. Callback.

30:09Rich Eisen:But Mike, don't you know, if you could see through the cameras, you're going to hold that one up right. Oh, my gosh. That is a brick phone. which was signed by a previous guest on this show named Michael Douglas. Isn't it really? That's amazing. It's a brick phone. Then he signed it, a.k.a. Gordon. Wow. If you wouldn't mind before leaving it, you signed the other side of it as Bud Fox. I'd be insulted if I wasn't asked to do that. I stand to do that. Great, because that is just one of the greatest scenes of him saying, this is your wake-up call, pal. Go to work. Is it get to work or go to work?

30:39Go to work.

30:40Rich Eisen:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two lines that are amazing. I mean, obviously. Thank you. What was that like having a front row seat? Again, I know that things are going a little crazy in your life, but watching Michael Douglas work in that role of Gordon Gekko. But you mentioned it as a front row seat. Yes, sir. And that's really accurate because there were times when, you know, I got caught just enjoying his performance. Right. And then it's like, oh, my line, my line. Yeah, yeah, of course, Mr. Gekko. You know, why would I think differently? um so yeah no it was it's you know i can't sit here and say well he was obviously going to win the oscar but there was something really special going on um with you know just with the energy that that he brought to it you know um do you know in the famous uh greet is good speech i think it was like the second or third take and we were in a ballroom and there was you know 200 extras and michael's in the middle and just you know what has become one of the great speeches in cinema history and at one point michael stops the take and he says hey oliver i'm over here because oliver during that whole speech had his face buried in the script like making sure he got all the words right that's in the book so he's no he's not watching the performance like who cares if he changed the word or went off book or something right um so he's just like and he and he looks up and he just i'll never say anything he just kind of he just kind of nodded yeah in the in the book i say in that moment i wanted to buy michael douglas a new car by the way i have the same feeling whenever i'm on my phone and my daughter's talking you know what i mean like that's like hey i'm over like we're we're we're talking here right right it's amazing that he would be able to be in the scene and notice what the director's doing behind the camera not looking that's kind of crazy he's playing it out sure the whole audience and i guess he caught oliver like back there and he's like you need to watch me i love it uh okay moving on charlie c sheen celebrity true or false oh we're still in the true or false thing oh jeez okay no i mean this is the way we go down the memory lane here uh producers for major league move the mound up 10 feet to make your fastball appear to go faster oh my god true or false uh Very false.

33:02Rich Eisen:Okay. Very false. Wow. Okay, Ricky Vaughn was really bringing it? What did you say? 60.6. Absolutely. Come on. Yeah. No, I mean, I probably topped out at 84, 85. That's great. But that was, you know, that was enough to create that, you know, 98 plus. So you're okay. You're not pitching from 50 feet. No. Six inches. No. I like that you felt like. Did you get a sense of he's insulted by that question? He definitely offended. Were you insulted by that question, I guess, right there? A little bit. A little bit, yeah. Insult you a little bit. No good fellas. Insult you a little bit. Maybe more baffled by it than insulted, yeah.

33:44Rich Eisen:I'm just a guy reading stuff on the internet to see if it's true or false, Charlie. That's awesome. Okay. What was it like shooting that movie, man? Amazing. Amazing. It was the only thing I didn't have the benefit of because people were like, oh, man, it must have been so much fun and exciting it's like yes and no because it is it's so tedious you got to get all the pieces but then um uh you know i wasn't part of like a five-man rotation and so i didn't i didn't get any any rest days um i wasn't like charting pitches after i you know were you icing down is that what you're saying yeah icing down uh cortisone um yeah all types and stuff anti-inflammation yeah because i would throw 150 pitches until you know three o 'clock in the morning come back the next day and throw a hundred more and there was no because that's just how the schedule was built you know and then the most iconic shot or one of the most iconic you know coming out of the bullpen you know as the first notes of wild thing drop um that was like four in the morning and there was like 50 people still there and when they had to like position them in a way where they filled just the part of the stands that you see yeah as i'm coming out you know but it was cool to see it in the movie it was just like you got a good hero entrance you got a good euchre story bob euchre is he on the set a lot well it's uh yes he was but he's kind of isolated up in the booth shooting his own stuff he wasn't down on the field we're down on the field yeah yeah i went fishing with him one day just on a on a day off what was that like invited me it was really cool he knew a lot about fishing i'm sure he's really impressed yeah yeah backup catcher i mean i may imagine it's what he would do every now and then there's that you know what i mean there's that yeah no what a lovely man though geez and i'd i'd see him over the years you know well i mean that is as iconic a line of a movie or any sports movie ever of just a bit outside And yeah, and you can find it at least once in almost every single baseball broadcast.

35:52No question.

35:53Rich Eisen:Yeah. No doubt about it. I mean, as great as they come. All right. Last one for you. Charlie Sheen, true or false? You were considered for Tim Robbins' roles in both Bull Durham and Shawshank Redemption. Well, Shawshank, no. Shawshank, in my mind, I was considered. Yeah. Okay, very good. Yeah, but Bull Durham for sure, because the producer, Mark Berg, became my manager years later, but was always a fan. So it really came down to Major League or Bull Durham, because didn't they sort of both happen at the same time? So how did you wind up in Major League and not Bull Durham then, do you think? I didn't find out about Bull Durham until after the fact.

36:34I think I'd agreed to do a major league by the time they were going to approach me and knew that I wouldn't be available. As great as Bull Durham is, I think I wound up in the right baseball film of the two.

36:49Rich Eisen:Why would you say that? Just because you could pitch? Luke Lelouch would be... Yeah, but we never... I was in the show. You know? you know okay great answer

37:15oh my god that is so funny i mean it's true right yeah

37:23Rich Eisen:you're in the show you're not going down a triple a man no that is so funny oh right on thank you Oh, my God. Eight Men Out is also an incredible picture. And by the way, that's a movie you don't call a movie, right? Eight Men Out is just spectacular. Yeah, I've seen it once, maybe twice. That's it? Yeah, I haven't studied the film. Yeah, it was cool to be part of that ensemble. Yes. You know, it wasn't the best career move to follow up Wall Street with. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. So that's why I'm a little prickly about that one. It is, again, I understand in terms of career moves. People revere it and people, they're...

38:05Rich Eisen:It's incredible. Okay, cool. It really is an unbelievable movie. I love it. Thank you. It is one that doesn't get mentioned for great sports movies that should. I think John Sayles is an outstanding director, great cast, and it is a story that stands the test of time that we're still talking about today. Sure, sure. I can bring it all full circle with Pete Rose and everything, but that's a celebrity, true or false, that I knew was going to be as good as it turned out to be. Let's talk about your beer here before I let you go, sir. Wild AF, and the AF, everybody stands for alcohol-free. And what's the genesis of it?

38:45How did this, what, that gentleman sitting over on the other side of your studio called me. We've been working together for years, and he says, how do you feel about an A beer? and i said well i you know i don't have a lot of experience with it because back when i was still drinking yes what would be the point right um so but then i i spent a lot of time uh getting up to speed with with what what had how that category had evolved and what was available and i was i was blown away and then geez a month later we're on a plane to Boston to sit with Harpoon Brewery, and we start talking about this beer.

39:27And it took about two and a half years. And I was working on the doc and the book and the beer all at the same time. So this isn't something we just bolted on because there's suddenly all this media attention. No, this was... And what's amazing about it is I'm not a spokesperson for it. I mean, in this moment, I sort of am. Yes, sir. But I'm a co-founder. Okay. You know, and it's like really good. I mean, it's excellent. It's not a mocktail. It's actual beer just without the alcohol.

40:03Rich Eisen:It's available mid-November to those who have pre-ordered, available in stores early 2026. Get on right now by going to wildafbrewing.com. Get the book, The Book of Sheen, wherever you get your books. and also check out on Netflix the new two-part documentary, a.k.a. Charlie Sheen. We've barely scratched the surface of the things I wanted to talk about. I have to come back. Done. Okay. Done and done, sir. Awesome. See you next week. That's true. How does Monday sound? Charlie Sheen is here and you are where you are. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. We'll wrap up the show in a second. I think Mike Deltufo's got a brick phone for you to sign up.

40:43Rich Eisen:That's amazing. That's amazing.

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42:20Rich Eisen:Quote today at progressivecommercial.com. What a blast. That went as well as I had hoped. Money Does Sleep is now on the brick phone. Unbelievable. On the other side of Michael Douglas signing and Bud Fox. He gave a lot of thought too. It wasn't just like he sat there for a minute and he thought what he wanted to write. Well, speaking of giving thought, it's a Thursday and we end this Thursday show with another edition of Higher Register. And again, And folks, if you're new to this, it's we say statements predicting what we think is going to happen in the upcoming week of the National Football League.

42:57Rich Eisen:But you have to go higher register to kind of believe it. I don't know. Hit it. There's a chance. The Rich Eisen shows that there could be higher register take of the week. All right, Christopher, you're first up. What's your higher register take of the week? Okay, so I'm looking at the week five schedule. kind of big NFC matchup in Seattle this weekend. Tampa goes to visit the Seahawks. And I think when it's all said and done, we're going to look at this game and we're going to say, you know, I think the Seahawks are contenders after Sunday. Oh man. You don't believe it just yet. You don't think so just yet.

43:36Rich Eisen:No, because there's some other NFC teams that I like a little bit better, but I think they're going to kind of take care of business. And we're going to be thinking, you know, I think Seattle's in the mix. Okay. Good job. Okay. Good one. TJ, what's your higher register take of week number five? All right, listen, this goes out to Ravens fans. I know Lamar is out this week, right? And I know you probably feel down and you're not sure what's going to happen. But I've got to be honest with you, Ravens fans. Take it from me, TJ Jefferson. Based upon what I saw Cooper Rush do during his time in Dallas, I think he's going to hold the fort down for the Ravens this week.

44:10Rich Eisen:All right, TJ, nailed it. That's your best It's not just hard to register yet in terms of thought and execution. I told you it takes a while. That was outstanding. And I didn't go high register. I didn't even just say that was pretty good. Yeah, that's what I picked up on that. I truly believe it. Cooper Rush season. Get familiar. Okay, now here we go. Here we go. Oh, Rich. How are you going to follow up last week? Oh, boy. When I said that the Chiefs are going to turn the corner. And they did. They turned the corner and hit the Ravens over the head to the point where it's Cooper Rush season. Yes, sir.

44:40Rich Eisen:All right, here we go, guys. the bandwagon's been full since july that's true the number of people that came on this program all summer long tell me the team that you're not you're you're you're on we're not talking about enough to the point where it's like you can't even choose this team anymore because everybody's talking about it so this is now the week for the denver broncos to go ahead and show everybody on the bandwagon welcome aboard i'm glad you were there because i i kind of think that the denver broncos are gonna get it done and take out the eagles this week kind of think the broncos are well equipped to do it wow aj brown wants the football and who's better to keep aj brown freaking out other than the reigning defensive player of the year patrick sartan you know and then the rest of that rushing attack and the passing attack here comes that broncos defense I kind of think they're going to do it.

45:36Wow.

45:37Rich Eisen:I hope you're right. That's the higher register take of the week. That's nice. You can't just go out and say the Broncos are absolutely doing it. You've got to pay the Eagles the respect of going higher register. Well, they're the champs. They are. You can't just say, oh, the Broncos are going to do it. You've got to be, I don't know. I kind of see it happening. That's higher register. I give a shout-out to Smitsch. He called me this morning, and he kind of, because I'm directable, and he kind of said, this is what you're doing wrong during higher registers. And he goes, you should and I was like, yes, Mitch, that makes sense.

46:14Rich Eisen:You're producible. I'm producible. You just went higher registering and agreeing. That's the problem. You just went higher register on yourself, man. Have some belief in yourself. If you want to parlay our higher registers, 8 to 1, just saying. You got one? You got a quick one before you go on? I have a quick one. What is it? I really think that the Patriots got a chance against them. Come on, Mikey. Let's go. Don't you really do it? Drake me, CZ. I am all over his team. Okay. I like his team. Well, until next week, you're going to flip-flop to another team. Yeah, that's true. Because that's how he does.

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