Hour 3: Detroit Tigers’ Collapse, MLB Adopts ABS, plus Zac Brown In-Studio

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1:51Rich Eisen:And now, it's Rich Eisen. hour number three of the rich johnson show is on the air fun first two hours to say the least here on the show we had kurt warner on the show and then we had the coach of syracuse football uh fran brown on the show and just had a great uh chat backstage in the green room with kenny chesney it was awesome uh wait a minute zach brown the zach brown band is here and we're excited to have him out here the reason why i just said what i said is uh you have to watch this back later on please don't actually plus or you're listening on the podcast chris brockman talking to fran brown and what a big fan he is of syracuse football and fran brown when he's built with the program last year with will howard um who as we all know didn't play for syracuse did not the coach didn't let it go and this is the moment where the coach said well actually it was calm accord last year And it's interesting Kyle's there because Will Howard was the quarterback in Ohio State.

2:54Rich Eisen:So just bringing everyone up to speed on what we've done here for the first two hours. Well, I was talking to Jim Trestle earlier. That was really fun. Yeah, for sure. Okay. 844-204-RICH is the number to tell. Is the show over yet? Here on the show. No, we've got a full hour to go. He's coming up next. You know what? It's kind of funny. By the way, that guy was not nice to me when I was a student. Okay. Yeah. Let's call him out. Yeah. Speaking of people wondering when it's going to be all over, one has to wonder if Detroit Tiger fans feel that way right now. Oh, my goodness. Once upon a time, the Detroit Tigers were cruising to an American League Central title.

3:32Rich Eisen:And this thing was wrapped. This thing was done. This thing was in the freezer. To use a phrase here in Los Angeles, sports law, I guess, sports play-by-play lore, the Jell-O was jiggling. and then the Cleveland Guardians caught fire. Once upon a time, 15 games back, they're now in a flat-footed tie with the Detroit Tigers who have absolutely fallen apart and last night the Guardians taking on the Tigers and their Cy Young candidate and we talk about another lock and your guy Garrett Crochet goes tonight in toronto to potentially win the cy young award too uh tarik skuble last night uh against the guardians had a two nothing lead and the guardians did the most guardians thing which is score three runs without getting the ball out of the infield actually the ball did go out of the infield once and that was after a leadoff bunt put one man aboard and then a sacrifice bunt or a try to bunt for a base hit uh scoobal jumps off of the mound and for some reason does not plant his foot pirouette and fire with his cyung left arm a bullet to first he just played like long snapper and decided to flip it between his legs and threw it up the right field line.

5:08Rich Eisen:Crazy. So now it's on. Crowd's going nuts. And yada, yada, yada. Guardians take the lead and didn't give it up. This is one of the biggest comebacks in the history of Major League Baseball that we're seeing right now. This team was dead in the water. And on behalf of everybody else in the American League playoffs, and that includes the New York Yankees, who, thanks to the Red Sox largesse last night, is one game out of the American League East division title and the best record in the American League as the Blue Jays, despite already having clinched a spot, they're falling apart, and the Yankees need to be one game better than the Blue Jays because they don't have the tiebreak.

6:04Rich Eisen:The days of playing game 163 and blowing your chance at winning a wild card series because you have to play one extra game just for playoff positioning or over. They're just using straight up win-loss from the regular season as a tiebreak. Yanks have to be one game better than the Blue Jays. On behalf of the Mariners and the Jays and the Yankees, you don't want the Guardians in. they were one massive tough out last year all they do is put the ball in play and put the pressure on you and last night scoobal and the tigers broke the tigers once upon a time the old english d they are now in that third wild card position with the astros right behind them They could fall right out.

6:56Rich Eisen:Kudos to the Guardians, man. They just have a bunch of baseball players that never quit, never say die. And what, they've gained 11 games in the last three weeks, which is damn near an impossibility. But that's all they do is win baseball games, and the Tigers have done nothing but lose them lately, and don't let the Guardians in. They got people who throw 100 million miles an hour coming out of the pen. They got arms. They got bats. They got one of the best players in baseball. I know you love him. Yeah, Jose Ramirez. No one talks about him. So what is going on in baseball? It's crazy. Your Mets won a game in Wrigley Field.

7:46Rich Eisen:Man. Did you see the sign outside of Murphy's bar? Did I not send that one to you? No. The sign outside of Murphy's Bar read that they have a marquee about who the Cubs are playing. It was the Cubs versus the White Sox of New York. No. Oh, the disrespect was real. And then the Mets came back on him and won the game. Yeah, David Peterson seemed like he should not have been out there. It was 6-1 at one point. Jeff McNeil commits his second error in the inning. I think it was the sixth. Sixth, and literally I picked up my remote, guys, to turn the channel, and I put it down. I was like, nah. I got to ride this out.

8:26Rich Eisen:They won 9-7, and now they're back in that one-game lead. Driver's seat. Okay, that's one way to put it. Well, they're in the driver's seat right now, as opposed to the Reds and the Diamondbacks. We're in the driver's seat for that position. Mets are at 68 % chance to make the playoffs, according to ESPN's analytics model. I don't know how I could say that. I mean, they got two teams, one game behind them. Two. Yeah, well, we don't have two teams in front of us. Speaking on behalf of the lone, and both of the teams have a tiebreaker on the Mets, and speaking on behalf of the lone New York playoff baseball team that's clinched in a Mets town, which is, you've got to give that up for the Yankees, in a Mets town to go ahead and do this, and then maybe wind up with the best record in the American League, and maybe wind up AL East champs thanks to the Boston Red Sox, which would make that an absolute chef's kiss.

9:22Rich Eisen:Rooting for your Red Sox tonight, Chris. Oh, man. Thank you. I am all nestinged out tonight. Me too. It's kind of wild that you root for your fiercest enemy. Oh, man. Weird to me. No, no, they're not. I love the way they play. Oh, sure. Garrett Crochet should be the Cy Young Award winner. Crochet Day. Oh, yeah. You guys spent the first two months of baseball fighting every day. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember at all. You say things into a camera and a mic that you can review them forever. But the biggest news in Major League Baseball yesterday was the incredibly welcome news that replay, if you will, is coming to a ball and a strike near you.

10:11Rich Eisen:that uh what what's baseball calling it they're calling it the automated ball strike challenge system the abs i like it like your brakes i like it and it's coming in the 2026 season twice a batter a pitcher or a catcher nobody can do it from the uh the dugout can challenge whether a pitch ball was a ball or a strike and it has to come right after the pitch you can't the dugout can't call for it it's got to be either a pitcher a catcher or batter and they signal by tapping the uh helmet or the hat okay pitcher catcher or batter has to tap the hat or the helmet let the umpire know and um and then uh we'll take a look and if you're right you keep your challenge.

11:00Rich Eisen:Two challenges, that's all you get. And each extra inning a team will be awarded a challenge if it has none remaining entering the inning. And they use a 5G network from T-Mobile that's brought to you by set up around the perimeter of the field to track the location of the pitch and a graphic on the scoreboard shows the result of the challenge and what it looks like is it looks like the Hawkeye system that you see in tennis. And it'll happen right away. And I will just say this. It is incredibly needed. Now, Aaron Boone said he wants it to either be used only for ball four or strike three. Don't like that.

11:43Rich Eisen:Don't like it. Oh, interesting. No. Why don't you like it? Why? Because there's a massive difference between a 2-1 count and a 1-2 count and some at-bat that's going down, two runners on, two outs. massive difference in pitching to somebody one and two than two and one massive difference between oh and one and one and oh massive difference between three and oh and two and one the number of times you hear somebody say out there in baseball well or for football any sport oh man if it was if if you had basically um called something different in the second quarter wouldn't have i mean the rest of the game would have gone completely different except for the fact that it changes the way these things change the way you pitch the way you call plays in football the way you run an offense whether you're up by one score or not and so massive difference in a playoff baseball game two guys on in scoring position two outs your best hitters at the plate and instead of two and one it's one and two because the umpire missed something no thank you no thank you now the thing that's going to be removed from the game is a catcher poorly frames a strike and leads an umpire to call a strike a ball that will get rectified by instant replay happened last night Aaron Judge wound up getting a strike three that you could see on the box called a ball because the White Sox catcher didn't frame it properly.

13:31Rich Eisen:And if the pitcher just tapped his hat, judge would have been called out, which would have been helpful because he didn't do a double play the next at-bat. But listen, the number of times I am seeing an umpire flat out blow it should be over. And I tip the cap to Major League Baseball for going in this direction. It doesn't take much time. I've seen the way it works in the minor leagues when they looked at it. The tap of the helmet hits. Within seconds, it shows up on the scoreboard. You see it. The whole crowd sees it. And if you get two challenges and every single challenge you get right, you get to continue it.

14:18Rich Eisen:Now, it'll be up to the coaching staff and management and all the analytics people to tell the players, don't use it in the first inning. Don't use it in the third inning. Be judicious when you use it. No, there are big moments in a fifth inning or fourth inning. Again, these playoff games, too. We're thinking about it like it's a nice warm day in the middle of June. now I'm talking about baseball playoff games when you're watching and you know it you know, you know it and I'll know it this October, I don't know if you will but bottom line is that was such a quick shot too when if it happens in June leadoff guy gets on on a walk to leadoff the third inning and you're sitting there going maybe I'll just to order a beer, order a hot dog.

15:14Rich Eisen:But in playoff baseball, game's over. Game's over. We just walk the leadoff guy. So now your third inning, fourth inning, fifth inning, and you're not getting any runs, and you're going against an amazing pitcher who's on a roll, and you could switch a 1-2 count to a 2-1 count or a 2-0 count from 2-1 to 3-0. You're definitely using that with a guy on base. these dumbass analytical stuff where you're now knowing you're going to be thinking about the pitch counts up. You could get this guy now if you switch one count in your favor. I kind of dig it. We'll have to wait a year, obviously, but I'd be curious how teams employ this in the postseason next year.

16:05Rich Eisen:When they use it. The whole thing, though, is the team's challenge in the first, second, third, teams can't do it there will be a time where a player will do it a catcher will do it a hitter will do it or a pitcher will do it and they'll zoom in on the um the manager in the dugout going that wasn't when i wanted you to use it it'll be interesting it will be yeah but it's better than just like somebody calling a pitch 12 inches out going strike and you're sitting at home going like I was sitting the other day, the umpire and the Yankees Orioles game missed so many pitches and both dugouts were on the umpire and the umpire was yelling back at both dugouts.

16:51Rich Eisen:And it's like, bro, you stink. You're hearing it from both, which should give you an indication you stink. And I'm just wondering, is there nothing in major league baseball right now? that would cause anybody in like the operations department, anybody whose job it could be during the inning break to pull the umpire back from home plate in the tunnel and go with a tablet. These are the ones you just missed. You're barking at that manager and you're barking back at that manager. And there's a reason why they're barking at you. Get better. I'm surprised that doesn't happen. when you can see every game there's the Twitter accounts that monitor every single pitch in real time it be brought up remember that one time Pat Bev got a technical because he brought a digital camera out to the ref here I would love for that to be done by somebody in management in baseball that's funny but this is now going to be that because it's going to be on the scoreboard 55 ,000 people are going to see and it's going to be like that guy behind home plate yeah i got that one wrong so now maybe the next ones will be called better differently or maybe less consistently i'm just coming up with the difference and the unintended consequences which is what you're supposed to do on a competition committee situation if a team has gone oh for two and they don't have any left and suddenly there's a huge call late in the game and they can't challenge now that's another one but it's not like NFL we're under two minutes it's automatic it is so better than the alternative right now I'm willing I'm willing to see what it looks like because we're all seeing this box we're all seeing it oh yeah I mean or if you're watching game cast on on your phone you can see I know where the pitch is we're all seeing the box so either take the box away and don't don't give us the box which I don't want it's in the box well the other night wasn't a strike in the box and we kept on seeing strike not anymore not anymore 844-204-RICH number to dial zach brown of the zach brown band is coming out right here on disney plus the espn app everywhere and espn radio presented by progressive insurance cars homes boats motorcycles rvs and more at progressive.com let's bring zach brown out here next on the rich eisen show

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21:40Rich Eisen:Back here on the Rich Eisen Show on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance. Zach Brown is here. He just gave me a bunch of gifts, which I've got a mug for you. Perfect. There you go. I got a sense of fair trade. cheers to you again the highly anticipated new album from zach brown band love and fear on december 5th and that's also when you're going to go to the sphere in las vegas to kick off a residency there the first weekend is already sold out uh we had kenny chesney on the show before he went into the sphere yes sir and he was talking about how you know you spend a lot of time syncing up your music to whatever's going on the i guess you can't call the walls of the sphere but whatever's going on to sync it up.

22:24Rich Eisen:And that, that's a significant endeavor. Are you in the midst of doing that right now? We are. We've been working on an 18 months, so we've had a lot longer runway than anyone else that's been able to go in there. So, um, and we're also telling a story. So that's the first one that I've seen. It'll be the first of its kind in that scenario. And, uh, the title, love and fear, uh, you can, you can boil most of your decisions in your life based out of one of those two things. And I try not to base my decisions on fear, but on the love of doing something and believing that it's a worthy cause. But the juxtaposition that we get to create in the content of being able to be there.

23:01So every one of the human emotions, we're going to try to pull on that. There's like horror jump scare moments and then going on and just soaring beautiful things. So a rise and fall of all these things of tension and release and things kind of like the storms we all go through in life where we'll have really difficult times. It seems like things happen in threes or sixes or nines, like however many times. and then we get through those things and and all the hard things that ever happened to us we look back on and it's like i was learning something through that i couldn't see it at the time but it's just been life's been a series of those things for me and getting to tell that story and about my childhood about a lot of things that only people that were really close to me would know getting to do that and then create all the content behind everything getting i got to to work with a 40-piece orchestra for this we recorded it for the album and filmed it for sphere we got a 20 piece choir that you're bringing into the sphere with you or we filmed them and so you'll be putting them yeah their content will have them as part of it but being able to uh even a new album you know we got a new song that just came out with dolly and uh it's called butterfly uh 40 piece orchestra on that getting to work with her getting to have the orchestra on it all things getting to produce an album that's on the level where there's really not i'm just going big on everything and the convergence of all the promotion.

24:17And we're all independent. So, you know, we're not with a record label and we just put our own marketing dollars and our own efforts behind this to expose it, get it out, release some of the songs along the way. So some of the people that hear them in the sphere, if they're fans, they've had a chance to kind of get to know some of the songs that we're doing and then playing a lot of the songs that people would expect, playing some of the curve balls that we love to do cover-wise. sure um but it's uh this is this is a love letter to our our fans and the amount of work that's gone into it and pulling something off on this level is just just a reminder that we're not we're not slowing down you know we're we're we're in this and we'll always be performing and we have a lot to our fans they're the ones that have carried us through sure you know decades and staying relevant so there's a big statement for us and getting to do it in that building is an honor and getting to do with the team of people we've got together to make it magic yeah i i saw with

25:11Rich Eisen:my wife uh you too which was the first act to be in the sphere in las vegas and i just you know when you say about a jump scare um i'm like wondering what that would look like because you could feel like the walls are literally closing in in that place like you better be careful like people better take their nitroglycerin before they come in to see you that's true if you're jump scaring them in the sphere because it is a sensor i've never seen anything like i felt kind of stupid too because i i you know we showed up before everything was going on and i'm and i i saw the walls in there and they were they they were made of like these big cinder blocks and i'm like oh there must be some sort of special type of you know material that you could beam the stuff on and then when you two started the cinder blocks broke and i'm like oh that was a projection the entire time and i felt dumb i felt stupid like i went in there i'm like oh there's cinder blocks And they're like, no, you could put whatever the hell you want on this thing.

26:06Rich Eisen:That's right. Which must give you such incredible creative freedoms when you got 18 months to figure this out with your music, too. Right. Yeah. You're limited by your imagination and your budget of what you can do in there. And the people that we've got helping create that content are really, really incredible. Right. And a lot of the tricks, you know, optical illusions, things you can create in there. It's the only place that I've seen where you're in a building and you feel like you're outside. You feel the wind on your face watching the sunrise and you can't discern that it's a video. You're not making it up.

26:36There's nothing like it. Yeah.

26:38Rich Eisen:That's awesome. And the fact that you're having your new album on the same day, that's how you do it, man. That's how you promote it. That's how you push it. That's how you distribute it. And that's how you're there for your fans. Again, Zach Brown of Zach Brown Band here on the Rich Eisen Show. We've never met. So apologies if this comes across in a different way. But I thought Love and Fear was about being a Falcon fan. No. Wow. I mean, kind of is a little bit of both. Am I wrong? A lot of things in life. My bad if I come across. And that's your team? The Atlanta Falcons? I'm from Atlanta. And home team, you know, Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs.

27:20Okay. But I've got a lot of friends that play as well. And that have played and retired. And so I've got different people I'll pull for, depending on what's happening. But I played football 11 years. You did? Yeah, I did. And when I was five until I was 16, I played guard and tackle and then linebacker.

27:39Rich Eisen:So you're in the trenches. Yeah. You're in the trenches. Yeah, and I love the sport. And then I did judo in college. And that kind of opened my eyes to MMA. And that's really my favorite sport. That is. I mean, UFC is my... So who's your fighter? Who are you a particularly fighter? I'm probably Justin Gage. He's probably my favorite fighter. but lots of them over time but I absolutely love that sport I watch as much as I possibly can would you have done it if you could no and I don't roll anymore because of my fingers you know there's a lot of grip strength a lot of things you grabbing geese and things and I've got to protect my hands so I don't roll anymore but I love to watch people compete and I love to watch the evolution of a sport how much it's changed and the worst fighter in the UFC now would have smashed anybody early on because everybody trains different disciplines sure um but that's definitely my favorite sport and i study it that is yep okay and then um and so georgia bulldogs must have given you some immense satisfaction in the last few years absolutely man we only wait we waited 40 years to get another championship but as a kid you know most of my family went to uga okay and as a kid riding back in the car with my dad from like deer camp when i was a kid listened to larry months and on am radio um you know broadcasting the dogs and uh it was it's just been it's been a part of my life um and now my my fiancee she's university of texas oh boy she's a longhorn so and i've got a daughter going to school there um where in austin next year in austin okay so it's uh it's a house divided when they play each other but otherwise i've got to pull for them i got another daughter at georgia tech which is big rival right there in georgia but now i got to be a tech fan too so i'm texas came in with a big win yeah recently yeah and the the tech georgia game last year that quarterback the amount of heart that kid has man it's it's pretty special so got lots of teams now you sure do yeah i mean texas is as big a rival as you might have for the whole shooting match this year yeah okay so when that happens what what does things look like in the zach brown household but if i'm watching texas and going to the games with my lady it's gonna i gotta be a ut fan and my daughter's going there so it's i inherited these other these other teams but lifelong bulldog but i do november 15th is that the day okay so it'll be 20 days before your sphere i don't know you'll will you be in vegas at that point in time or uh we'll be getting rehearsals we'll be getting ready um okay i haven't gotten to see i'm a couple weeks away from seeing all the content in the sphere we've been using you know vr vr headsets now to see everything and isn't this amazing resolution's not quite the same but um that is so cool but yeah i'm just trying to point out that you might not be in the same room as your fiance for this game i think we'll be we'll be together for that game even if i got stuff going on we're gonna be we'll be watching it you can be friends after you have way yeah yeah you have ways you have ways to make sure that you can all be together for that thing zach brown is here so your falcons man i mean like week week one looked good until the very end.

30:48Rich Eisen:Week two was just dynamite. Week three was like, what was that? I think we're going to transition again, man. I think we're finding our foothold again. But it's just as a kid, going to games, going to you know, and my kids, being able to take them. And Arthur Blank is a dear friend. He's such a great man. He's such a sweet man. He's been such a good friend of NFL Network over the 22 years. An incredible force as well. Right. Um, and philanthropy and sports and everything. So got to, got to root for, I'm not, I'm not fair weather, you know? Um, but it's, uh, it's exciting to, to have some new blood, some new chance to try to, you know, pull some things together.

31:33I'm not, the transition may take another year. And you have performed at a Superbowl, correct? You were telling me back there. I remember this. Yeah. I sang the anthem at the Patriots Falcons Superbowl and, uh, it's 28 to three at halftime where we're celebrating and watching them get oxygen and coming back and some of the catches that Edelman made in that game and so part of my exercise regimen for a lot of years was playing Madden so I'd get on like an arc trainer like an elliptical and I'd play Madden so that was the era that I was playing Patriots on Madden playing against you know friends and crew and stuff like that whenever I would get some exercise so it was a good way to like take your mind off of cardio yeah you know you play a full game and an hour goes by and it's like you know you get it done but um it's uh yeah but you were you had to be sitting there thinking

32:23Rich Eisen:yeah i call i sung the national anthem here today this is one of the greatest days of my entire life i've seen the national anthem at a super bowl brutal atlanta's up 28 to 3 in a super bowl and did you think you had something to do with it at that point in time little part of you were you sitting there watching. I would draw eight frames that I had anything to do with the success of that game. But that was a tough one. Tough loss. Matt Ryan's one of my favorite people to meet, too. Matt Ryan's just a great dude. Yeah, he's a great guy. So who are they? You mentioned that you have friends who are playing in the league that are also...

32:54J.J. White was a great friend. You know, and watching my kids get him out at Foursquare at the house was pretty fun. And then he'd get mad and when he'd hit the ball, it would turn into a Frisbee as it flies through the air. Makes sense. They're playing with him and his brother, you know, and TJ. And being able to just hang out and play four square. And, you know, we have a nonprofit, a campus that we built called Camp Southern Ground. And it's like a college, university quality campus. We do kids camps there. So me and JJ snuck through the woods while camp was going on. And the kids are out playing games and stuff and jumped in and got to play with them and hang out.

33:29And, you know, Matt Stafford's a friend, you know. He's in line for another Super Bowl. him coming through coming through UGA and getting to be friends with him um okay great guy so you