In short
Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show mixes college sports legal controversy and NBA finals talk, then pivots to actor/comedian Eric Andre’s in-studio banter about basketball and soccer.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Jay Bilas: ESPN college basketball analyst and former college basketball player/attorney-counselor; appears as “counselor and analyst.”
- Eric Andre: actor and comedian, promoting Little Brother (Netflix, June 26).
Key claims (Bilas)
- The Texas judge’s preliminary injunction in the Brendan Sorsby case is “odd” and likely to be overturned on NCAA appeal by a three-judge panel.
- Preliminary injunction requires irreparable harm, but Bilas argues Sorsby lacks likelihood of success on the merits.
- Congress should pursue collective bargaining or a federal framework for college athletes, not grant the NCAA an antitrust exemption.
Notable examples
- Comparison to Charles Bediaco’s overturned G League-related college eligibility dispute.
- NBA finals: Knicks vs Spurs; Bilas discusses involving Carl-Anthony Towns and pressure tactics on Victor Wembanyama.
- Andre jokes about referee free-throw disparities and imagines calling a World Cup match (Haiti vs Brazil in Philadelphia).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Brendan Sorsby
0:00 to 0:22
Rich Eisen introduces the topic of Brendan Sorsby's ruling and its implications in college sports.
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Discussion on Brendan Sorsby
1:30 to 2:29
Rich Eisen introduces the topic of Brendan Sorsby's ruling and its implications in college sports.
“From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”
Jay Bilas on NCAA Ruling
2:35 to 6:00
Jay Bilas discusses the recent ruling regarding Brendan Sorsby and its potential appeal.
“sports and to talk about it is basically my conscience on this subject matter.”
NCAA's Credibility and Future
6:01 to 11:04
A conversation on the NCAA’s credibility issues and potential reforms.
“I think the NCAA should win on this one.”
Collective Bargaining in College Sports
11:13 to 14:00
Exploration of the need for collective bargaining in college athletics and the role of Congress.
“But, you know, the NBA and NFL don't have to worry about things like this because all of their rules are collectively bargained with the players.”
Value of College Athletes and NBA Insights
14:00 to 19:15
Explore the changing landscape of college athletics and player valuation.
“of this because the players are driving the engine.”
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19:16 to 19:51
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Eric Andre Discusses NBA Refereeing
19:52 to 22:33
Eric Andre shares his thoughts on NBA officiating and the Knicks.
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Humor and Insights on Basketball Culture
22:34 to 28:00
Enjoy a humorous take on basketball culture and player dynamics.
“Is he promoting the film, or is he just watching basketball?”
Reflections on NBA Rules and Flagrant Fouls
28:00 to 29:22
Discussion on NBA rules, technical fouls, and historical context of basketball.
“How about Levin Yama shoving Jalen Brunson over in the first quarter?”
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Personal Connection to Soccer and Family
29:22 to 30:20
Eric Andre shares a personal story about his father's love for soccer.
“And by the way, excellent use of hyperbole.”
Potential Announcer Role for the World Cup
30:20 to 31:29
Eric discusses his possible role in announcing a World Cup match.
“I'm going to, they want me to announce maybe.”
Understanding Soccer Rules and Culture
31:29 to 34:53
A humorous exploration of soccer rules, including offsides and injury time.
“So what announcing style would you have?”
Controversial Thoughts on Penalty Kicks
34:53 to 36:02
Discussion on the effectiveness and fairness of penalty kicks in soccer.
“run time while somebody's down faking an injury or legitimately injured.”
Encountering NBA Players and Behind the Scenes Stories
36:02 to 37:07
Eric shares anecdotes about meeting NBA players and his backstage experiences.
“I walked by him at the All-Star Game last year.”
A Look Back at Previous Appearances on the Show
37:07 to 40:43
Eric reminisces about his past appearances and the evolution of basketball.
“I was like, Kyrie, you think they should free Luigi?”
Casual Banter with Eric Andre
42:01 to 44:40
A light-hearted conversation filled with playful references and sports banter.
“I would say your IG on the air, but I can't.”
Casual Banter with Eric Andre
44:42 to 45:08
A light-hearted conversation filled with playful references and sports banter.
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Discussion on George Pickens
46:20 to 47:14
A conversation about George Pickens and expectations for his performance.
“thinking he's going to get traded, and I'm going to go on the other way.”
Transcript
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1:30This is the Rich Eisen Show. And they're right back in this series. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Bucks, the biggest shot of the series. Earlier on the show, ESPN NBA insider Brian Wintorst, 49ers tight end George Kittle. Coming up, ESPN college basketball analyst Jay Billis, actor and comedian Eric Andre. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
2:00Rich Eisen:10 years, right? You want to look up that date? Sure. Because the last time he was here, a segment that he did on this program, a video, was our number one viewed YouTube page until about a year and a half ago. It's crazy. He's a very talented, funny guy. And his Instagram, I can't even read on the air because it's not safe for work. Just check him out. Hour number one, Brian Windhorst. Hour number two, George Kittle. check it out on our podcasts as well as our Disney Plus page when you are done. The Brendan Soresby story is red hot and there's a lot of very angry individuals in college sports and to talk about it is basically my conscience on this subject matter.
2:48Rich Eisen:The counselor and analyst Jay Billis back on the program. How you doing Jay? Good to see you. Good to see you guys. Thanks for having me. All right. What do you think of the Brendan Soresby ruling that came out of Lubbock, Texas? You know, it was a three-page order from the judge in Texas, and it was immediately appealed by the NCAA, and I think it'll get overturned on appeal. It was, in my judgment, a pretty odd ruling. It was basically a temporary injunction, a preliminary injunction, and you can appeal those, and the NCAA's doing that. So it'll go to a three-judge panel, I believe, in Amarillo, Texas.
3:29And I just can't imagine that standing up. In order to get – I'm sure you've covered this – but in order to get a preliminary injunction, you have to show irreparable harm, which I think Sorsby could make a good argument for. But you also have to show a likelihood of success on the merits of trial. And I don't think there's any likelihood that he would win a trial. And I get the argument that Jeffrey Kessler and his co-counsel made about, you know, Sorsby having a gambling sickness and it's a mental health issue and all that stuff. But to me, that's not that wouldn't that wouldn't win the day if I were deciding the case.
4:13So, you know, I'm pretty confident it'll get overturned. And I understand that people are upset about it. I think some of the things that have been said have been a little over the top. I mean, let's give the appeals process a little bit of time. It's not like the season starts tomorrow. There's time for this to be remedied. And it doesn't mean that the NCAA needs an antitrust exemption from Congress. That's not going to be factored. It shouldn't be factored in. Not a big deal. It's just one player. And I don't think it opens the floodgate for every college athlete to turn into Pete Rose. You know, I don't think that's going to be a problem.
4:50Why?
4:51Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, listen, I understand why Charlie Baker would use any anything to keep sharpened teeth in his organization. And I can understand why he would use anything to try and get an antitrust exemption like that. I understand. But I also understand people saying, you know, mental health is a serious subject matter. And it's not the NCAA turning a blind eye to mental health. It's the NCAA handing in a rightful consequence to an action that deserves it, Jay. So why wouldn't this be something to open the door to anybody saying, hey, my client, my student athlete had a mental illness. So you can't suspend him or her.
5:44Rich Eisen:She or he can't have a consequence, Jay. Well, you can make the argument. It doesn't mean the argument is going to be a winning one. So this is one judge in Texas that put out a three-page order that I don't think is going to hold up. That's sort of the point. Like, I agree with you. I think the NCAA should win on this one. And I think they're right in this case. But, you know, immediately, you know, the system goes to that's it. The world is on fire. Everything's screwed up instead of just calmly saying, all right, we need to appeal this and we'll win on appeal. Look, the NCAA has put itself in this position, not on this particular rule, but with all their other dumb rules that put themselves in this position.
6:34So they don't have a lot of credibility in a lot of different instances. And, you know, to me, you know, Congress should be looking at other things to do rather than give the NCAA an antitrust exemption. and an antitrust exemption is really kind of the nuclear option here. And to me, it's the equivalent of a bank robber saying, hey, look, every time I break into this bank, I get arrested and charged. You need to do something. And then Congress says, all right, you now have an exemption. So we'll give you the keys to the bank. Therefore, you don't have to break in anymore. That's what the NCAA is kind of asking for here.
7:17And I'm using an extreme example to make the point. If I'm Congress, what I do is I create a federal pathway for collective bargaining for college athletes and the NCAA or the conferences. That's something they could do where the players have a choice in how business is done. Or the Congress could say college athletes are now exempt from the National Labor Relations Act and the Fair Labor Standards Act, and they can sign multi-year contracts with their institutions. And their institutions can pay them directly, but they don't have to be employees. They can do it as independent contractors. Those are solutions that recognize that these players have tremendous value.
8:00What the NCAA is really saying is keep allowing us to pay ourselves millions of dollars and use the overall value of the enterprise to value ourselves. But give us a law that says we can do it the way we used to and value the players at near zero. And that's not going to work. it's just wrong on so many levels. Like the players have proven what they're worth now, and you see what these schools are willing to pay. But going back to the Soresby thing, one thing I haven't heard, and maybe they're saying it and I just haven't heard it. But while you have a bunch of commissioners and administrators railing on the courts and asking Congress, this is another reason Congress needs to give us what we want.
8:50How come nobody's asking, what is the president of Texas Tech doing? While all these presidents are shaking their finger at us all the time talking about values, integrity and integrity, why isn't that president showing any? Like just because just because the NCAA lost a court case doesn't mean the Texas Tech has to let this guy play. And I don't I don't see the point here. and this is wrong on a number of levels but if you take a step back from it let's let the appeal go through we had the same issue with Charles Bediaco over a G League player you know playing in college last year at Alabama and way too many people lost their minds over it over one court ruling that got appealed and overturned and the whole thing was over and on the day that Charles Bediaco played his first game back at Alabama after playing in the G League.
9:47I think he scored 11 points. Three freshmen scored over 40 that day in a game, and all we were talking about was Charles Bediaco. I mean, it just made no sense.
9:59Rich Eisen:Well, it's interesting and I think appropriate that you cast a spotlight on leadership on college campuses for this, Jay. and it seems like leadership in certain athletic departments around the country are taking matters into their own hands. Our colleague Pete Fammel reporting that Big Ten schools are talking about not scheduling Texas Tech in any sport and that other schools are going to take matters into their own hands with the power that they do have on the scheduling front. They can do that. That's fine. Go ahead. I think that's an overreaction too. Um, you know, like, look, Texas Tech's cross country team didn't do anything.
10:44You know, that seems to be an overreaction to me, but, but if they want to do that, look, it's one player. And, and again, I don't think this is going to be a major issue that we're going to see over and over again. Um, but, uh, it's, it's uncomfortable. I think the judge in this case was incorrect in the ruling. I think it's going to be remedied on appeal. And once it is, then if it is, I don't think we're going to have to worry about this again. But, you know, the NBA and NFL don't have to worry about things like this because all of their rules are collectively bargained with the players. So they don't have to deal with this.
11:23And and that's what the NCAA needs to do is they need collective bargaining with the players. We are not going back to a system where the players get a scholarship only and then get to do a commercial here and there for their NIL. That's not going to happen. And so the idea that somehow we're going to go back to the golden days of yesteryear where the NCAA was allowed by the courts to violate federal antitrust law whenever they want it. I don't think that's going to happen. But look, they're going to keep making more and more money like the money isn't going down. It's going up. And and, you know, they haven't put any rules in to stop coaches from moving around like the coaches portal is always open.
12:09Nobody's complaining about that. You don't see anybody up in arms about that. I just want to see some of these presidents start showing some of the integrity that they preach about so much. So then who's the entity that's going to bring that collectively bargained concept to reality, Jay?
12:25Rich Eisen:because, you know, again, I don't want to go political here, but Charlie Baker is the one who's bringing Congress up. Do you think this Congress is really going to put the hammer in the hands of labor, in the hands of the players? Do you think this Congress is really going to get together and put something together, period? So who's going to go ahead and make that happen ever? Congress could do that. I know they could, but that's what I'm saying. But, you know, like, why would you put a hammer in the hands of the NCAA. Because that's what some of these... Because they have the lobbying money. Who's lobbying on behalf of the kids?
13:02Rich Eisen:Well, exactly. Exactly. But you don't need, I think as a fair-minded legislator, looking at this and saying, wait a minute, this is horribly unfair to a large class of Americans. And how do you... In what other industry do they give these type of restrictions? where they can be unilaterally imposed by the one holding all the money. There isn't one. And this is a case of first impression. I realize, look, the NCAA has been lobbying Congress for a long, long time now. They've spent millions upon millions of dollars doing this. I'm not discounting the possibility that they could get what they want.
13:46It's possible. I don't think it's likely or probable that they're going to get what they want, but it's possible. And I think it's been a waste that they should be looking for a solution where the players are part of this because the players are driving the engine. And you can tell by how much the players are being pursued by these institutions and how much they're being paid that they have tremendous value. These schools know how you win. You win with the best players. You certainly want outstanding coaches, but you win with the best players. And they're willing to pay to get them. They've proven that after all these years of telling us that the players weren't worth anything when they were valued at zero.
14:31They were worth way more than that. And we've seen that now, that some of these restrictions have been taken off. But if you want a system, like people say, well, the NBA has a salary cap. The NFL has a salary cap. Yes, they do. But it's agreed upon by the players. And we can do that in college sports. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not that difficult. It can be done. And similarly to what the NCAA said for years, the college sports community said, nope, can't have a playoff in college football. Can't do it. Impossible. Can't have one. And now we're talking about is a 16 or 24. You know, remember, remember, it wasn't that long ago where no, can't do it.
15:15Can't, can't have one impossible. And somebody held out a billion dollars or more. And it's funny how they made it possible. And even though they had a playoff
15:25Rich Eisen:in division two and division three, man, before I let you go, let's take a, you want to take a swing in the NBA finals? Did we see a momentum swing on, uh, on Monday night? Well, you certainly saw a really good game on the part of Victor Wembenyama. He put so much more pressure on the rim in game three, setting screens and then getting out and getting to the rim where they could lob it up to him and all that. But I think you'll see New York in game four be a little more resolute to get Carl Anthony Towns more involved. He's had a great playoffs. He's a great player. But I think he needs to continue to attack Lemonyama and make it a little more difficult on him.
16:11But look, I don't think the Knicks played all that great, and San Antonio had a lot to do with that. And still down the stretch, it was a one-two possession game. So if you're asking me who would I rather be, I'd still rather be the Knicks right now.
16:26Rich Eisen:Yeah. I mean, how good is Stephon Castle, right? I mean, you saw him. You've seen so many of these kids on the Spurs. And Dylan Harper, too. Just seeing those two guys, Castle in particular, when you're seeing him on UConn, you're like, that's going to be a terrific pro right out the gate. Oh, yeah. You saw that. And the area where he's improved most, I mean, he was always a killer on the defensive end and would do anything he was asked to do to win. I mean, he was injured at the start of his freshman year, and UConn was a different team when he came back and into the lineup. But he couldn't shoot it.
17:11He wasn't a shooter. And he's really improved his perimeter shooting, where now he's a threat. And that was an issue for him last year. But, I mean, you know, this year, you're looking at a future all-NBA defensive player and potentially an all-NBA player. I mean, he's a great player. And, you know, when he came out and was, you know, valued at, you know, people were saying, oh, he might be the fourth pick or the fifth pick or whatever. You're going to be there's an argument to be made. He should be one. He's he's he's amazing. What a what an athlete. I mean, just a stud athlete.
17:45Rich Eisen:What about Brunson when you first laid out is on him in Villanova? Well, I loved him. But if you were to ask me when even as a two time national champion, when he was drafted, if I saw that, you know, if I saw into the future, he's going to be an all NBA player and going to be a multi time all star and the face of a franchise, I would have said, no, I doubt that. I think Jay Wright probably would have said, you know, that's that seems to be a stretch. one of the things that kind of amazes me about Jalen Brunson is, you know, his footwork. Like when he was at, when he was at Villanova, I think Jay Wright called him back downs where, you know, he would kind of post guys up and, and they, he played off two feet, all of them did.
18:35And his footwork is magnificent. And for him to have carried that to the NBA, where he can bully guys and back them in and then use his footwork to get around him. He's masterful. It just shows you that it doesn't matter how big you are. If you're good enough, you're big enough. He's good enough. What a stud.
18:58Rich Eisen:No doubt. Jay, you're the man. Thanks for the time. Hit him straight as you just did over the last 20 minutes. Enjoy it. Always a pleasure. Right back at you. Seriously, Seriously, you're the best. Thanks for the time and the perspective. See you, brother. All right, man. That's the one and only Jay Billis. Jay Billis. Awesome. Just awesome. So much food for thought. A SoFi personal loan is here to help you achieve something once thought impossible, and that's overcoming high interest credit card debt. Walk the tightrope of your finances with one low fixed rate monthly payment, no fees required, and as soon as the same day funding.
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22:21Rich Eisen:Our radio audience has returned. You just saw a clip of Little Brother starring John Cena, Michelle Monaghan, Christopher Maloney, and this man, Eric Andre, here on the program. You're doing the hard work of promoting this film, and I saw Christopher Maloney courtside last night. Is he promoting the film, or is he just watching basketball? That's what I'm asking you. I got the same questions. He's about to get a very angry call after this interview. He should have been wearing a little brother shirt courtside. What the hell? I thought the refs were making some weird calls last night. What do you think?
22:58Didn't like what the referees were doing. How many times do we have the stats? How many times did the Spurs go to the line? How many times did the Knicks go to the line? 32. Spurs went to the line 32?
23:08Rich Eisen:32 times. And how many times did the Knicks go to the line? I believe it was. Eight? 22. 22, I think. But it was 24 in the second half, 8 for the Knicks. 24 to 8 in the second half. Wait a minute. Okay. I heard this morning it was like the Spurs went to the line 21 times and the Knicks only went to the line 8 times. Well, it was, again, overall in the game, the Spurs shot 32 free throws. The Knicks shot 22. But in the second half, the Spurs shot 24 and the Knicks shot 8 in the second half. Yes. That's the disparity. to which that's um suspicious to me what do you mean by suspicious eric hondre let's go there what do you mean in basketball yes a referee can call a foul every play every play the guys grace each other they're trying to stop each other from scoring yes sir a ref could call a foul whenever they feel like it.
24:05And it seems like it's not in the National Basketball Association's interest to see yet another sweep from this incredible Knicks team. Spurs are incredible too. Knicks haven't won since 19-dickety-six, since the steam engine was invented. It was the last time the Knicks have won. So unless you're from San Antonio, born and raised, You got to root for the Knicks. I'm a Miami Heat fan. I'm rooting for the Knicks. Are you really? Yes. I would never expect myself. I've never rooted for the Knicks. Until now, you have to root for this team. This team's unbelievable. What do you like about them? They don't look like a winning team.
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24:49They have this bad news Bears quality where they look like a bunch of doughy guys that play dominoes outside of a barbershop but their athleticism is unbelievable their chemistry is unbelievable their bench is unbelievable yeah it's not even like the the main team so and like i said they haven't won since the tesla coil was invented the spurs have won many times in my lifetime Tim Duncan, Ginobili, I lived through all that. I know. But I've never seen the Knicks, you know, when it was Patrick Ewing. Yes, sir. And that team, John Starks, they had to deal with Michael Jordan all the time. And then finally they get there and then they had to deal with Tim Duncan and Robinson.
25:42And then 26 years later, were you looking something up? Tesla Coyle invention, 1891. 1991. Okay. That's the last time the Knicks won the championships. That's how long it's been. I will say when you go to the games, it's sad. When you go to the games, when you go to MSG, and they're like, we have one of the players from the last championship team, the oldest Dick Gregory-looking guy. Carl Fraser doesn't look like Dick Gregory. They'll have some guy that looks like Sidney Poitier, Like a 99-year-old guy stands up like, and they're like, who is that? They're like, he's from the championship team the last time they won.
26:27And then they show the footage. It's like black and white. It looks like a Charlie Chaplin movie. It's like silent film. You've got to let this team win. Nobody wants the Spurs to win. I get it. The NBA won seven games. They don't want four games. They make a lot more money with advertising with seven games. I just feel like the commissioner calls the refs. Oh. And he goes, I'm saying it. Okay. And I won't be stopped. And I may never be invited back to.
26:56Rich Eisen:Not true. Not true. We've been waiting for you, Eric. No, no, no. Your show, yeah. I might not be invited back to basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. No, no. I'm not talking specifically about any particular team. I'm talking about the National Basketball Association. So what happens? I think they call the refs. that go maybe the knicks are fouling a little bit more tonight you know what i mean and the ref goes you got it boss because the spurs are at the line a lot and that flagrant call jayland didn't what did he well again his feet were under a what what you can't land you can't put your foot underneath somebody who's shooting and because it creates the opportunity for your foot to land on another foot and then you turn an ankle, you can get really hurt.
27:46Rich Eisen:That's a flagrant foul? They call that a flagrant foul. A flagrant foul is when Ron Artest goes into the stands and punches a fan in the face. That's flagrant. That's your bar? That's my bar. Bill Lamebeer, Charles Barkley. Everything's based off of that. Yes. Or elbows to the face. How about Levin Yama shoving Jalen Brunson over in the first quarter? That's a flagrant. That's another one? I would say that's a flagrant. I guess those are technicals I'm talking about. But Flader Vowel is like a chop, a big chop, not like gracing somebody's, I don't even know if they've detached, the feet under the who knows that rule.
28:27Nobody knows that rule. That's from like the first handbook. That's when like the NBA was like only played, basketball was like played at the YMCA at the turn of the last century with like a wicker basket. and they had to get a ladder anytime somebody scored because there wasn't any hole in the thing.
28:43Rich Eisen:The basket, that was the actual basket. It was an actual basket, like a bread basket, like a picnic basket. I'm afraid to ask what a Tesla coil is. Tesla. A Tesla coil? Oh, oh, oh. A Tesla coil? I thought that's what you said. That's when you get a vasectomy. The Tesla coil. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. I misheard that. A resonant transformer circuit. Oh, everybody. Low current, high frequency. No, I don't know. I didn't know. Did you take science? I was trying to. No, I said steam engine. I was pulling like I was trying to get another industrial revolution. Steam engine 1700s. Everybody knows that.
29:19I'm trying to say that the Knicks haven't won in a while. And I was using hyperbole. And by the way, excellent use of hyperbole. Thank you very much. I like it. I'm going to the World Cup, too. Are you really? My dad was from Haiti. I'm going to go see Haiti versus Brazil. Where? In Philly. In Philadelphia. Yeah, I'm very excited.
29:36Rich Eisen:That's where Haiti and Brazil are playing, huh? Because, you know, in Philadelphia. How about that? So you're a big soccer guy or you're just learning it? No, I don't know anything about soccer. But I like watching it. I like watching the World Cup. My dad would love watching the World Cup. And it's sad. He was dying while the last World Cup was on. Right. Anytime, like literally on his deathbed, anytime he would like open his eyes and see a black soccer player with a French last name, he would lean over to me and go, find out if he's Haitian. Find out if he's from Haiti. And I go, okay. That was like his, you know, those were some of his last moments.
30:18So I'm like, I'm going to the game. I'm going to, they want me to announce maybe.
30:24Rich Eisen:Hold on. I don't know what I'm allowed to say. What do you mean announce? Like you're going to be in the booth? Eric Andre's going to be in the booth? calling a World Cup match? Maybe. Am I allowed to say it? I'm looking at my publicist. I don't know if it's announced yet. Maybe I'm not allowed to say it. But I do want to be the Gary Payton of FIFA announcers. Remember when Gary Payton was like they had him announce for a little bit? And he was like too ratchet and they were like you gotta go. He was like the DMX of basketball announcers. I want to be the Gary Payton of soccer. That's it? And I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
31:02Rich Eisen:Well, I don't know if I would take in Haiti versus Brazil, but if you're calling the match. That's what I'm talking about. I'm adding entertainment value. I don't know all the history of football, which we call soccer. June 19th. June 19th, that's right. It's a couple of Fridays from now. It's very soon. Okay. It's coming up. Mark it on your calendar. Okay. I'm meeting the Haiti team. I'm shaking their hands. You are. wow this is cool they haven't been they haven't been in the world cup for 52 years so they're very much like the knicks of the world it's been since the tesla coil that haiti's actually been in the world cup yes um so how would you what nikola tesla went to the went to haiti he went to madison square garden same And he's like, I have an invention.
31:56And they were like, wow. And they were so inspired.
31:59Rich Eisen:So what announcing style would you have? You look good, man. What, me right now? Yeah. Did it just hit you? I'm aged well. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's the makeup. I don't know. You want, what are you doing? Peptides and all that stuff? You look good. You look like Baron Grills or something. Jason Statham. Oh, yeah, it's me. Are you mountain climbing? What do you do? I'm not mountain climbing. I did work out today, though. You. Maybe that's why I have that glow about me. What do you do, soul cycle? You do the bike? I don't know. Just lift some weights, move around. Good for you. Thank you.
32:36Power to you.
32:40Rich Eisen:By the way, so you say you don't know soccer very well, but you're going to be in the booth potentially for a World Cup match. I'm going to try to learn. You've got to learn sometime. Okay, so you're not allowed to use your hands unless you're the goalie. You know that. That I know. Okay. They freak if you use your hands. You do know that if anybody comes close to hitting you, you fall down. And you cry. And you cry. Yes. Right? And you act like you've just lost a limb. Yeah. You're like, ah! Yeah. They're like opera actors. It sprays something on you. Somebody sprays something. Oh, yeah. Right?
33:09Rich Eisen:Isn't that what it is? Like bear mace or what? I don't think. I don't know. What's in the can that they come out and they spray on you? Good question. It like numbs you a little bit. It numbs you. Oh, it's like a ketamine spray or something? soccer's cool please say that what's in that can out comes the ketamine guy oh my god pretty chill dude these colors now so and then and then you you're you you wait for the stretcher to take you all that far oh yeah oh it's a full and then you come back and you run like a deer what else do we need to teach you about soccer. It seems to be it. I never understood offsides.
33:50Okay. Is that if you're like, kind of like, not goaltending, but you're like lingering by the goal? If you are behind the last
33:57Rich Eisen:line of defense at the time whoever's passing you the ball touches it, you're offsides. If you're between the defenders and the goalie, just hanging by the goal. You're not allowed to do that. Oh, so it's just a way to prevent people from just like hanging out by the goal. That is correct. Right. You have to be where? You could be behind the defense after whoever's passing you the ball has kicked it. Right, right, right. You could anticipate, but you have to be in front of the defense until that. That is correct. You can't hang out between the defense and the goal. And that's why the guy on the side raises the flag, calls you offside.
34:33And there's no timeouts, right? Oh, no. Well, the clock doesn't stop. The clock doesn't stop.
34:39Rich Eisen:Oh, it just keeps going. But they do add injury time. Yeah, and that's totally arbitrary. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Let's play six more minutes. Is it arbitrary? I don't understand that at the end when they put a little time up. Yeah, because you're supposed to, as a referee, run time while somebody's down faking an injury or legitimately injured. And then you're supposed to accrue that time. And then once the 45 minutes for the half is up, you then say, we're playing this much more time. But it's like ish. They're not like. Oh, there's a lot of ish, man. Oh, that's full of ish. Full of ish. Okay.
35:17Rich Eisen:So you got that. Then you know there's penalty kicks if it's tied after a certain time. I don't like that either. Why? I think it should go into a set. Because that doesn't really tell me who the best team is. That just tells me who the best team at penalty kicks is. I don't like that. I think it should just be sudden death. You go into OT and it's sudden death. You keep going. And you keep going until you're collapsing. collapsing. Yeah, penalty kicks. That's like a trick. That's like letting the Harlem Globetrotters play the Spurs. Like you're doing trick shots and like that. That's not telling me who the superior team is.
35:52See, you've got takes, man. I got takes and I'm angry. I'm pissed off. I'm looking up at the Spurs. Hades Ross. Come on. Wemby has his whole life ahead of him. He's got plenty of time to get a ring. We got to see the Knicks win. Frustrated about last night. You ever seen him in person? Wemby? I walked by him at the All-Star Game last year. And what was your impression? I couldn't even form words to try to say hi. I was like, well, first of all, I've been to like Cirque du Soleil and Cirque du Soleil. You know, I thought it was like a stilt walker. I was like, hey, the All-Star Game. There's Guy Fieri.
36:29And then I was like, oh, no, that's like a human being. That's like one human being. that's not like when the little rascals they all like get on top of each other in the trench coat i was like that's a human being and then i was like oh that's that french guy and but by then my i was like my eyes were rolling in the back of the head because i couldn't even process what was going on he's very and then and then he was whisked away i didn't get to i didn't get to talk to him but i did sneak backstage without a press credential and i interviewed a bunch of the players and said a bunch of inappropriate and asked a bunch of inappropriate questions really to like kairi and all these guys for some reason they were like security was real lax and i just saw like all the press people go one way and i was with my date i was like let's go and we like
37:17Rich Eisen:snuck back is this anywhere to be found did you post yeah oh yeah i have like uh i don't remember all i remember is i was like they were like hey well you know how do you play They're asking him, like, all this technical basketball stuff. I was like, Kyrie, you think they should free Luigi? And he's like, Eric Andre, come on, man. Don't ask me a question like that, man. Why is Eric Andre? He's like, why are you here?
37:44He goes, I don't want to. Oh, man, I don't want. Oh, come on, man. You asked Jalen Brown the same thing, right? Yeah, I don't remember. It was, like, on a whim. I didn't have anything planned. I didn't think I was going to get back there. And security just didn't care. That's like never happened. Security my whole life sees me. Even before I was on television, I just have like a don't let this guy interface. You know what I mean? To anything. To a Quiznos, they won't let me. You know what I mean? I have to prove I belong everywhere. I have to, you know what I mean? So I like, I was like, wow, this is amazing.
38:24So I didn't have like always the best. I wish I had some things pre-written, but I interviewed a few people. It was, who was it? Kyrie. Jalen Brown. Jalen. And Anthony Mason, I want to say. I think he's long since past.
38:42Rich Eisen:If you interviewed Anthony Mason, that's a story. No, that would be a story. That's a different TV show you get on for that. It probably wasn't Anthony Mason. Now that I think about it longer. You'd be on one of those medium TV shows. I'm going to go out. You just teleported to the times where Van Gundy was hanging on Alonzo Morning's ankle. You just teleported to those days. Those are the heat days you just teleported back to right there. I want to get those things that he wrote his hair cut. You asked Jalen Brown if he could give out his email address so people could ask him questions. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:16I was like, you know, if anybody has any ideas for your game, or they want to coach you or anything, maybe just give me your email address. we put it up on the screen people can reach out to you directly so they can you know ask you questions comment how the hell did you get back here yeah and there you know they did the where's my publicist kind of look you know this kind of you know what that look is that's the look that Lupita and Yongo remember when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars the best part of that footage is Lupita and Yongo looking for the exit behind all of them she was so confused she's like she's like texting her limo driver i watched lapita nyango 20 times in a row you have to re-watch that footage and just lock in on her on her ignore will and chris and just look at lapita she has the best like how do i and the exit is there i think and then my driver's probably 20 minutes away now i thought of look at it again sorry oh my god little brother no
40:26Rich Eisen:available for streaming on friday june 26 exclusively on netflix funny movie man yes so congrats on this much let's not do this once every 10 years what do you think i can't believe it's been 10 years it has back right is that how long it's been uh yeah well the last time you were physically here yeah you were wearing the uh jr smith tattoo t-shirt jr smith remember i was I was like, whose body, whose flesh was I wearing? That's right. J.R. Smith. J.R. Smith tattoo teacher. J.R. Smith, yeah. Because I think that was right around the time where he blew the finals game. Isn't that what it was? Or it might have been when the Cavs finally won.
41:01It was one of those. No, no, no. He had a bad game. That's not why I wore it. But he had a bad game right before I came on.
41:09Rich Eisen:I think it was right before when the game went into overtime because J.R. Smith dribbled it out rather than just putting the ball back up. And LeBron was going like, what the hell? I think that's what it was. So 2016. So it's been 10 years. I think if the Knicks lose tomorrow, Latrice Sprewell should jump out of the stands and choke the coach one more time. Noted. One time. Because I don't think there's footage of the choke, right? No. Latrell. Yeah, it's not. Latrell. What did I say? Latrice. I said Latrice? No, I didn't. I did not say Latrice. I think Latrell Sprewell is my favorite player of all time.
41:44Latrice. Oh, my God. Latrell Sprewell. they gotta release that footage if the Knicks win they gotta release the footage of Latrell choking the coach and I think he really messed up his throat too because what was the coach's name PJ? Yeah he was announcing something the other day he was like hey man you got any water? I was like damn he choked the hell out of that guy I say Latrice Latrell was one of my favorite players of all time
42:12Rich Eisen:Everybody check out Little Brother on June 26th that'll be a week after Eric Andre we're hoping, makes his World Cup soccer announcing debut. That would be fantastic. I do hope that that happens. Yes, I love soccer. Pele, you got the other guy. Maradona. Yeah. Pele and the other guy. You know, the British guy. David Beckham. Beckham. Messi. Messi. You got Jerry Rice, I think. Jerry Rice. That's all right. Jerry Rice. Right? Latrell Sprewell. Latrell Sprewell. Stoudemire. Oh, yeah. All of them. Larry Johnson. Yeah, yeah. That was a time Latrell got red carded. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What's the guy's name?
42:57Zanadon? Zanadon Zadou or something? No. Zanadine Zadon. Zanadine Zadon. That's what I said.
43:03Rich Eisen:I would say your IG on the air, but I can't. Everybody check out Eric Andre there. How do you still have that? They let you keep that handle. I'm grandfathered in. Hey, this guy was asking Jalen Brown for his email uncredentialed. What are you asking him how he could slip through the cracks? Are you kidding me? He's a ghost. Not even human form. He's turning to mist and go wherever he wants. Thanks for coming. Thanks, Adam. Eric Andre, everybody, right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Back in the day.
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45:32Rich Eisen:It really is just a way for us to, if you will, explore the studio space. Before we go, Brian Schottenheimer spoke, TJ. Your guy. You made him cry at the combine. Him, Sol Ruka. It's what I do, apparently. It is. It is. Barbara Walters. What did my coach have to say? Where's George Pickens, coach? Where is he? My conversations with George have been positive just about life in general, so I expect and hope he'll be here. I mean, hope and expect the same thing. I can't make anybody do something that they want to do. No, he's not committed that to me. But I expect he'll be here. Okay. He signed his tenor.
46:12Rich Eisen:He did. So that means he's under contract. If he didn't, he doesn't have to be at mandatory events. You keep thinking he's going to get traded, and I'm going to go on the other way. I don't think so. I don't either. I don't either. He's going to make a serious amount of money in this franchise tagged year. And I know he wants more money down the line. And June 15th, that's around the corner. That's the deadline by which you've got to be signed as a franchise. $27.3 million. But you want to make the bag? Show up and ball out. You show up and let Dak try and throw it to CeeDee Lamb, and when the attention gets paid there, you got yourself free reign, man.
47:02Rich Eisen:You get the one-on-one coverage from Dak in an offense that's on tilt for the Dallas Cowboys as they're playing great defense. Glorious. He's going to make a ton of money. We got Caleb Downs. I don't know if you knew that. I'm aware of that. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney +, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
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