Hour 3: From the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh with Steelers DT Cam Heyward & WWE Superstar Seth Rollins

21:21Rich Eisen:Yeah. You have no idea. No clue. No earthly idea. Anything could happen. But the bottom line is you've got to wait a while to get your team drafting, which is not what you're used to these days. No, God. You know what I mean? No, we are used to. You're used to having a quick night. Yes. Top ten pick right away. And flipping it off. I know. That's how to feel good. It does feel good. And it feels good to not, like, need every position under the sun. You know, usually you come to a Bears draft and it's like, well, We just need somebody in any of these positions that might make a difference. And now you can kind of narrow it down.

21:54And, you know, I think you're probably looking at offense. You're really set. You're skilled position players. You might need offensive linemen somewhere. Right. But really your defense is where you're looking to fill some spots. That's it. Defensive line, maybe edge, and definitely a safety, possibly another cornerback.

22:08Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, safety for them is definitely a need because they hardly had any of them signed at the combine. I remember they came in the combine with nobody on their roster at that position. So obviously, Daniel Jeremiah was here earlier on the program. Keldrick Falk, the edge out of Auburn. That's in his mock draft. I mean, I'm fine with that. I have no problem. The Bears' biggest weakness last season was getting a pass rush off the edge. And, you know, Montez Sweat was here and there, but they have nobody on the other side to really fill that void. So I'm all for it. If they feel like they've got a baller there, a difference maker, a guy that can come in and help, let's do it.

22:42Rich Eisen:Is there any other team that you have a slight interest in? I never ask you about that because, you know, you're just high-heart. I'm really curious to see what the Chiefs do in the draft this season just because it's so out of sorts for them to be picking so high. Right. And it feels like for them there's an urgency to, like, we've got to get back to form now. Right. So I'm curious to see with two picks in the first round as well, what kind of moves are they going to make. The New York teams, at least the Giants, are interesting to me with Harbaugh. Yeah. You know, and they've got a good young core there if everybody's healthy.

23:15Scadaboo neighbors and Dart. And I'm like, ooh, two picks in the top 15 or something like that. The top 10. They're in great shape. What's that going to look like for them? Because I think they could be competitive in that division.

23:26Rich Eisen:Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah has them taking Jeremiah Love and Carnell Tate. So that would be hitting the offense, to say the least. That's massive right there. That's like a Bears with, you know, Roman Dunsay, Caleb Williams in the same draft. That was it. Yeah, I mean, you had that much firepower to your offense. But the Giants, they need help on the defensive side, too. And he's got the Chiefs taking Mansoor, delaying the corner out of LSU. And, you know, a lot of people were thinking maybe they need to go offense to help out Patrick Mahomes, who is coming back from a knee injury that's real. Yes.

24:02I've also come back from that same injury.

24:04Rich Eisen:I mean, he's a guest. He's still holding on. I understand. It was real pain. He wasn't even there. Like, if anyone should be hurt, it should be us that were there. I shouldn't. We were generally concerned about your well-being. I understand, and I appreciate that. And, you know, I apologize. It's okay. Not holding a grudge. Not to talk about what it's like to rehab a knee. Two not grudges, one. I don't know. That's a hard injury to come back from. It's really difficult. I mean, I'll say I did my ACL, MCL meniscus in 2015, and there's so much uncertainty when you come back to work. Like, can you be the player that you thought, you know, that you want to be?

24:42and you be that guy it is hard to do and like i remember you know my model was uh adrian peterson that guy came back from a torn acl and was better than ever and i'm like if you can do if he can do that at that position with as much wear and tear that they put on themselves running backs like okay i think i can do this as well um now i'm not going to pretend to be adrian peterson because that man is an animal when it comes to his training yes um but i i i tried my best and i i felt after a little while, but it did take a few months to get to like, okay, I feel like Seth Rollins again.

25:16Rich Eisen:Yeah, I bet. And you're wondering when you're going through your normal where you normally wouldn't think about doing anything now. It's in the back of your head. Hopefully Mahomes can get through all that. Oh, he will. Seth Rollins here on the Rich Eisen Show. WWE was in the mouths of a couple of players last night in the NHL and NBA playoffs. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I figured let's get your reaction to it. Did you hear about this no i didn't okay brian rust a pittsburgh penguin was one of uh many who were kind of about how did you see that they were there were 10 guys in the penalty no they couldn't sit down five on each side it was wild yeah at the same time how did they play the game aren't there only five people in the goalie i think they just dropped the puck and then just stood there Waited two minutes.

26:04Rich Eisen:Okay, come on out, guys. No. So Brian Rust afterwards was talking about, you know, what happened. And this was his description. For some of us, personal finances aren't just personal. They include a lot more people than ourselves. Loved ones, neighbors, the communities we call home, and the causes we hold in our hearts. At Thrivent, we help plan your financial picture with the bigger picture in mind. Because even though our business is helping guide your finances, our ambition is to make it mean so much more. Thrivent, where money means more. Connect with us at Thrivent.com. Quick time out. Some breakfast intel you want to know about.

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27:29Game turned into a bit of a WWE match in the second period. And they kind of fed off that and they were able to capitalize.

27:41Rich Eisen:Okay, there you go. That was a description about that. So now there was Devin Booker last night. Oh, okay. For the Phoenix Suns. He's on it as well? He got upset with James Williams, the official. Official, yes. He called him out by name, which is kind of rare. Very rare. Go ahead and hit it. Let's do this. About 11 years, I haven't called a ref out by name, but James was terrible tonight. Through and through. It's bad for the sport, bad for the integrity of the sport. You know, people are going to start viewing this as a WWE, you know, if they're not held responsible. I get it. I see. Yeah, you got a corrupt ref in there.

28:23My wife's been dealing with a corrupt ref for months now, Jessica Carr.

28:27Rich Eisen:Is Jessica Carr and James, you think they might be related? Maybe. Oh, no. I don't know. James Williams is a pseudonym. I don't know. Maybe there's a car in there somewhere. I don't know. But, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. He's going to get fined for that. Oh, yeah, big time. Oh, my goodness gracious. He's going to get fined for that. To call out an official by a name? Yeah, that's aggressive. But, I mean, he's also, what's wrong with turning something into the WWE? It's a highly successful pop culture iconic sport. Absolutely. But, you know, I get what he's going. You want absolute, fair, unbiased officiating.

29:01That's what my wife has been asking for for months. She wants Jessica Carr to play by the rules. And, look, if you look at WrestleMania, she got her get back. She won her Intercontinental Championship back by beating AJ Lee, who was the referee for that match. Oh, corrupt car. Corrupt Jessica Carr. So my wife outsmarted them both. So my advice to Devin Booker is now you know what you're dealing with. The next time you're on the court with that guy, you've got to figure out a way to work around him and make it work for you.

29:28Rich Eisen:There you go. Mm-hmm. Okay. The WWE was in the mouths of two very— I love it. Tis the season. WrestleMania is big on everybody's mind right now. So we're a few days removed from that, and everybody's thinking about it. I like that. Where are you going to be for the draft this evening? Are you sticking around? I'll be here. Yeah, I'll be here today, tomorrow. I'm back to Los Angeles and then Raw is in Laredo, Texas. Back to Laredo. We haven't done Laredo for Raw, I want to say in like five years. And so it's always really exciting to me. Just like it's cool to come to Pittsburgh. Like Pittsburgh is not a small market, but it's not a huge market.

30:03And so anytime you see the draft coming here and you see other people coming here, it's always very cool. We did it last year in Green Bay to see everybody coming to kind of a smaller market for the first time. When we go to a smaller market like Laredo for Raw that we never touch, it's awesome. Because the fans there are craving it. Like, they want it so bad. They don't want to drive to Dallas, San Antonio, Houston for these shows. Now it's in their backyard. The crowds are always, like, through the roof. I'm pretty excited. I know it sounds nuts, but I'm excited to go to Laredo, Texas. Are you going to be backstage tonight, or where are you going to be?

30:38You know, I don't know. I don't know if I'll watch the draft from here or not. We have some tickets and there might be like a booth or something, but I also might just go get a meal. I'm not sure. Speaking of the booth, how did the coffee go?

30:49Rich Eisen:Oh, baby. How did the coffee go? What is it, the World Congress of Coffee? Oh, yeah, it was the World of Coffee. Comic-Con for coffee. Comic-Con for coffee. It was unbelievable. How was it? How did we do? We did great. We had our little Amo booth in the corner, and we had the first of its kind, a tag team latte art throwdown. It was unbelievable. Come on. Dude, tag team. We paired up these people who qualified online. They put in their submissions. We had some very good submissions, by the way. Yeah. We teamed them up randomly, and then they had to tag in and out, making lattes at a fast speed.

31:28That's incredible. But also for quality. They were being judged, and it was fast-paced. It was so much fun. The buzz in that space around our coffee brand, Amo, was amazing. We had it again at WWE World this past week. We sampled some of our cold beverages. The rollout over the last two weeks has been awesome. We're going to get some to you. We launch on Monday. The site goes live on Monday. So you'll be able to get your coffee from there. And we're going to get some to the show. So you guys have it. I appreciate that. But, dude, it's been so cool. The response has been fantastic. That's awesome.

32:01Rich Eisen:They must have loved having you there. Having a tag team off in the corner. I think they were taken aback. We had a lot of energy in our room. He brought the beans. It was a bit of a stuffy crowd. And so when we were there blasting our metal with our loud music and our loud lights and our tag team throwdown, I think we were disruptors in the coffee world. We were disruptors in the coffee world, and that's how we like it. Did you have someone dress up like you? We talked about you last time. Were there cosplayers that you and Becky that showed up? Dude, these people had no idea. They didn't know what to expect.

32:36People were regular people. And I'm like, they all looked like they were dressed like Rich. And Brockman. Which is outstandingly well-dressed. This is great style that the two of you have. But this was 97 % of the people there. Me and my wife were there in our cut-off Ammo shirts. You know, flexing as we're walking through. It was a great time. It was awesome. I loved it. I'm excited. Hopefully we'll go back next year. It's in New Orleans. Oh, great. Yeah, the brand is off and rolling. Enjoyamo.com. Love it. Awesome. And it's going to be great. I'm glad I asked. Thank you for asking.

33:08Rich Eisen:No, because you mentioned last time you were here. I'm like, I need to ask a follow-up. And we'll take some of that coffee. We'll get you some ammo. We can have him in the studio when he comes to visit. That's right. I'll drop it off personally. I know a coffee beggar can't be a chooser, but I just need the straight-up stuff. I don't like the watermelon taste in whatever the heck you do. I'm telling you. No, I don't need that. We don't got to get you any sweetener. We'll get you black coffee that will blow your mind. That's fine. That's what you're going to get. I just wanted as leaded as it possibly can go.

33:36Rich Eisen:I don't need to do, you know what I mean? Like, I'm a cheese pizza guy. I'm a burger guy with not many fixings on it. You're my daughter. You are my daughter. Pretty much. How old is she? Five. Okay. Cheese pizza, nothing on it. You're saying I dress like an old coffee person and I have got the appetite of a five-year-old. Yes, that's it. This is great. No, I think this is a great way to end our conversation. That's kind of rude right there. I guess I started by saying. No, I mean, these are all compliments. I take them as compliments. It's the same way I complimented him about Mahomes having a real knee injury before.

34:14Rich Eisen:So I guess I walked into that. I took a heel to the eye. You did. Good to see you, bud. Great to see you guys. Thanks for having me. Always a free gentleman. Check him out on Good Morning Football on NFL Network. and, of course, the Roku channel for GMFB overtime as well. We'll be back to wrap this show up on this draft day in a moment from Pittsburgh. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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35:19Rich Eisen:Is it true you asked for a door? Well, I've been mentioning on the show just casually during the read. You're looking for a door? I need a new door. And they reached out, and we're going to make this happen. Boom. How's the door? What are we doing? What is it? We're working on it. Okay, we're working on it. We're working on it. Okay. They're going over there. Sliding it now. Sliding it now. What is it? Is it sliding? It's a little more modern looking. I just don't like my front door. You can't have a front door you don't like, Matt. That's true. You've got to love your front door. You know why I always...

35:51Rich Eisen:That's why I'm going to Pella. Do you know who I leave this stuff up to? Your wife. That is correct. Your wife. You are correct, sir. I mean, I know. One of the stars of Women's Sports Now is joining us right now from what appears to be my seat back in Los Angeles, California. Well, you know, Rich, you always accuse me of going right in through the front door. That's correct. It makes a lot of sense to have me on after that one. Hey, guys, I'm keeping the studio warm here. It's kind of lonely. Is Del Tufo there? The candle is not lit. Oh, that's okay, Suze. I got one here. It's electric. You understand?

36:25Rich Eisen:I got a remote and everything. Is Del Tufo there? Is that what we're trying to find? He just walked in. There he is. Mikey, the guy. Say hi. We need Mike. We need to see Mike. Just walked in. I did not say hi. I want to let that on the record. Let's go, kid. Oh, God. He's wearing a Dodgers hat. Boo this man. Boo this man. What is happening here? I say boo. Oh, my God. My favorite person is in the studio. See? See? My favorite person is in the studio. Back off. My hand's off. I've known her longer than you, Rich. Well, that's true with most, though. He knows where the bread is buttered. Oh, my God.

36:59Rich Eisen:I love it. I don't know if that's... She has the power, Rich. Oh, my God. Tell Tufo. What's happening here? Hey, Brockman, how are you? Hey, how are you? Who's coming up on... Let me... I'm sorry. Your name is on the cut. Who's coming up on Women's Sports Now later today at 6 p.m. Eastern Time on ESPN Digital platform, Susie Schuster. Well, Rich, since you asked me. We're so psyched. We have Olivia Miles on, and we also have Flaje Johnson. I mean, we have an embarrassment of riches of incredible women, and we're so psyched to have both of them. We're going to talk a lot about PWHL. We're going to talk about the upcoming WNBA season.

37:42We've got a great Miller Lite spotlight and a little fun with a certain mascot in Toronto. We are unleashing Saratiana.

37:52Rich Eisen:Okay. Uh-oh. Have you heard about the Toronto? I have not. You want to Google Toronto tempos and see what... Or don't. And just watch us right here on Women's Sports Now on the ESPN app, on Disney Plus, on Hulu, on ESPN2. We're so psyched to be everywhere with you guys. This is a spinning curve in Sarah Tiana's zone. Oh, I lost your audio. No, I don't know if you can hear me. Well, there's an audio guy there who should be able to help you. Can you hear me, Suze? Yeah, tell him to work the board. I can hear you now. Okay, good. Yeah. All right. Can't wait for what Sarah makes a meal out of that.

38:27Rich Eisen:It's a spinning curve in the Sarah Tiana zone. Here we go. Is that a blue cookie monster? I don't even know. Okay, very good. All right. And how's everything else there? Anything else I need to know, Suze, before I? No, nothing chaotic this morning. Okay. It was actually a smooth transition. Yeah, we were pretty good. You're talking about our kids going off to school? Is that what you're referring to here on ESPN2? I mean, for you and me, that's like the way the day starts. So it's either chaos or it's not. Well, it's great to see you smiling here. Okay, so women's sports now. Flaugé Johnson of the Seattle Storm now.

39:08Rich Eisen:And Olivia Miles of your Minnesota Lynx. Amazing. Okay, I enjoy that. And how crazy that Flaugé is opening her season against the Valkyries. Okay, there we go. There's already some brief history that happened on draft night. One of the things you love the most when someone gets drafted to get a hat, then they got to take another hat. It's just, it makes no sense. And she hasn't taken off her hat since she got it. She's wearing this hat everywhere. So we'll ask her about that hat. We're going to ask her about her new wrap that she just dropped called Woe. kind of awesome. Tell her to give you her top five MCs.

39:47That'll work well with the conversation. She's a big hip-hopper. I'm here for you.

39:54Rich Eisen:We're here to just make everybody's lives better. All right, Suze, love you. Have a great show. Have a great draft. What else do you want to talk about? Ask her something, TJ. I didn't ask. I thought I added some value to women's sports now. You always add value, TJ. You know I'm your biggest fan. This is true. This is true. Thank you. I mean, now it's weird. Do you like how I moved into Rich's seat, by the way? Look at our background. Like, come on. There you go. It looks great. It looks fantastic. Thank you. It looks great. Yeah, and plus, I just need to erase the memory of Del Tufo just... Hugging your wife?

40:26Rich Eisen:Yes. That's going to be tough. I'm not going to... I mean... All right. Love you, Suze. Oh, Rich. Oh, Rich. Hey, how are you? Hey, Rich. There's a... You know... I'm just lovable. What can I say? I know that. Have a great show. All right. As it goes, Susan Schuster, Sarah Tiana, and Renee Montgomery. And Colleen is here in Pittsburgh. It's part of her duties with the NFL draft tonight. So it's just a three-woman crew on the main desk with two WNBA stars fresh off of the college basketball hardwood. Women's Sports Now, Thursday, 6 p.m. Eastern. Episode 2 is tonight. Imagine if tonight. Tonight.

41:10Rich Eisen:Okay. Tonight, David Bailey gets announced by the New York Jets. I will like that a lot. And then he's got to come out, though, and be announced as the newest New Orleans Saint. But he still has a Jet hat on while we're talking about him with the Saints. This infuriates you. Well, it's confusing. It is pretty stupid. Honestly, part of what my challenge is for tonight is with eight. I don't think folks kind of grasp yet what eight minutes on the clock is going to feel like for a television broadcast. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I remember 15 to 10. This is half of that time. Oh, it's going fast.

41:57Rich Eisen:This is half of the 15 minutes it used to be. So the two fewer minutes, and ESPN didn't cut down on the number of voices on their set or in the team facilities or in the case of Fernando Mendoza, there's a reporter in his house. And we're both using the sound bites that come from there of the two networks. And so there's times that we've got to sync up to get to. Laura Rutledge is conducting the interviews of all the draftees who are coming out of the green room for both broadcasts. Oh, okay. You know, back in the day, we at NFL Network had our own. It was like odd picks on ESPN, even picks. Well, we would get where it would be the odd pick and the even pick going back and forth as to which broadcast got the prospect first.

42:52Rich Eisen:Oh, okay. But we would each still have our separate interviewers on the stage, right? Now it's just we're all both broadcasts have to get to Laura Rutledge at the same time. And the clock's ticking. And while she's interviewing somebody, by the time that interview's over, let's just say it'll be David Bailey. The Cardinals will be on the clock halfway through their pick. during that a trade might be happening and it's graphically supported on the screen. And then we're going to find out three minutes after that who's being chosen. And then while we're reacting to that, the Titans will be on the clock and probably going to have five minutes left in that one.

43:35Rich Eisen:And then I'm told that when the Giants pick tonight, there's going to be a presentation on the stage where this draft stops and somebody's going to come out and it's going to make a special pick. And the clock keeps ticking and the Browns are going to be on the clock and it's going to just go and go and go, and it'll be really fast, and I'm wondering how you guys will come back tomorrow and say how you like it as a broadcast to watch. I just know as hosting it, it's going to be my challenge is to make sure fans at home understand seven's on the clock now, but we're waiting for the fifth overall pick, and the sixth overall pick has already been in, and we'll get to that in a moment, and the trade for five was this, And then the eighth overall pick's coming.

44:19Rich Eisen:And to make sure it's all in line. And I take that job very seriously while also to make sure that my analysts all get in, my fellow colleagues all get in their talking time, unlike you guys right now. I'm on this jag here. But I'm just saying that it's going to be a different broadcast for me to host. And so it infuriates me when I'm watching a draft, And I'm totally confused as to which team the players go into, like the NBA draft does. I mean, I know Roger wants to get home, right, and shave an hour off this time. But it almost seems like they should have added two minutes, not taken it away.

44:56Why?

44:57Rich Eisen:Because of everything you just said. Well, I mean, but at some point, though, like if the Raiders go on the clock at 8 o 'clock, right, and everything moves along, the draft should end right before 11 o 'clock. It's still going to be a three-hour evening. But honestly, who cares how long it takes? I don't know. It makes it a little bit more watchable. Don't you want it to be less congested? Like what you just said, the fifth pick may not even have been announced yet, but seven or eight is on the clock. But what I'm saying, I'm just putting you in my shoes as somebody who's hosting it and answering TJ's question why the NBA draft's confusion drives me nuts.

45:33Rich Eisen:And I know the NBA draft is that way because their new league year and free agency happens after the draft. And so things aren't even official until the new league year begins, just the same way the NFL is. Ask the Raiders and Ravens fans about that with the Max Crosby trade this year. But the new league year and the free agency happens before the draft. So draft choices that take place for the NFL immediately are official. And you're on that team. And if you're traded, then you'll have a new hat on your head of the new team if you're one of the prospects that's physically there. I'm just describing to you what my challenge as a host is tonight, hoping that anybody out there is actually interested in what I just had to say, although TJ just mocked sleep-taked on me.

46:19Rich Eisen:But, you know, I'm wondering if what I just said even will matter to a viewer, you'll even notice it. You might not notice it. And at the end of the day, we'll be like, you know, I'm glad I didn't have to wait for that other pick because I want it to go. Now, that's the way I am in a fantasy draft, too. I'm like, come on. You've got 60 seconds. Let's go. Or when you're in an elevator and someone's coming, you want them to. Well, I mean, it depends on how fast they're moving. I'll hit the open door button or not, like Larry David. But no, I'm just kind of bringing that up. We'll see. And happy to take phone calls on it on Friday.

46:56Rich Eisen:You've always said how great your production team is. They are. They're going to walk you right through there. It's awesome. You guys will be fine. And they never tell me what pick is coming. They never do. Oh, really? Ever. Not in the first round. Want to be surprised. Yeah. Yeah, certainly since some of this information will be well known by the time the commissioner says it because of what I just said. It's going to go fast and some picks might get backed up. They're going to try and keep it on time. But it'll be my job to hopefully hang with you tonight on NFL Network starting at our pre-draft show at 7 Eastern time.

47:27Rich Eisen:We're signing off on ESPN Radio right now back on ESPN 2 and more to wrap this show up. The Rich Eisen Show podcast.