Hour 3: Giants vs Lions Wild Ride, Shedeur Starting Again, plus Michigan-Ohio State Honking

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1:57Rich Eisen:our number three of the rich eisen show is on the air first two hours have just been chock full of news brockman can't even keep up with it uh but we're doing our best here 844-204-rich number to dial phone lines are lit we'll take all your phone calls uh mike del tufo in his spot with chris in his spot uh the three of us together uh chris and i hosting and mike del tufo working the faders on overreaction monday the pod which is out there for everybody to take in let's go on the Rich Eisen Show YouTube channel, as well as however you listen to your podcast. TJ Jefferson has just been like the cat that ate the canary after his Cowboys come back from 21 down to beat the Philadelphia Eagles.

2:37He gets two today. How do you not send something to Carl Anthony Towns? Susie is in New York. All you got to do is call her up and say, let's do this. Can you send it to Madison Square Garden? I guarantee you she will find the individual within five minutes that would place it at his locker. You have no idea how this is. It's within reach. Wouldn't doubt that Susie would be able to pull that off. I know. I'm not saying that you doubt her ability. I'm just shocked that you don't want to take advantage of this moment. I have a lot of Eagles fans in my sphere. You know, not necessarily close because I'd never be super close with an Eagles fan.

3:13Okay. But there's a lot of them. And you know what? I feel like silence, to quote Ari Gold to Lloyd, silence is golden. Okay. I feel like it hurts them more because I'm not acknowledging. I don't have the patience to jack with you today. All right, man. I mean, come on, TJ. Do it. How about them Cowboys indeed? 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Earlier, we talked about Shador Sanders' first start and Kevin Stefanski not naming him as the starter right after the game. And, you know, for effect, I screamed, come on out. Did I make you jump a little bit when I screamed, come on? But a little bit that was serious, part of it tongue-in-cheek for a bit.

3:53I don't know if Kevin heard me. But just moments ago, this happened. Shador will start this week. Obviously, you know, number one job of a quarterback is to win. So excited to get that first win under his belt. And then next thing is improvement. And that's what young players do. Certainly young quarterbacks do. You get one game better, and that's just from working at it. So that'll be our focus. Okay. And he's got a good one to focus on it, man. I do love this guy. I know Browns fans are disappointed, upset. Another lost season, blah, blah, blah. But Stefanski's not a bad guy to have in the meeting room, in your ear, improving, working on it.

4:41And to me, this is the only decision I think he could have made. And it's not because Dylan Gabriel's still in the concussion protocol. call they announced he's out of it this is a decision the coach has made or is it ownership i don't i'll be honest with you whatever it is i want to see it otherwise would i have been sitting down watching browns 49ers next week no am i watching sitting watching 49ers and the browns next week more closely yep i will be absolutely i will be i know you have your doubts chris you You have reason to have your doubts. I know anybody else out there who's taking a look at, you know, Shador minus a couple throws yesterday, but he made the throws.

5:21He made them, and he didn't make more mistakes than he made throws. There are more plays that you could say, that's right there, Rick Dalton, Jiff, than, oh, right there is exactly why they didn't start him before. Right there. There it is. Throw to Isaiah Bond. There it is. hitting a wide open guy in Jerry Judy, who decides to jump up in the air for whatever reason, hop skipping and jumping and body surfing. And again, no, he's so wide open. You know how many times did J.J. McCarthy miss some wide open guys a couple weeks ago? You see guys miss wide open guys all the time. He didn't do it in that respect.

5:57And then, of course, let Samson do his thing. I'm so psyched. I'm so psyched. And I'm psyched for Browns fans, too, man. I'm psyched for them. Sure. I think for me, it's organizational. Sure. They have no choice. Stefanski is, like I said earlier, he's coaching for his job. So you're going to do whatever you think gives you the best chance to win this week. And this week, it's starting Shador. So they have no choice. They got to do it. By the way, if he's coaching for his job and the Browns decide to let him go, do you know how fast he'd get another job somewhere? Laugh all you want, man. I think the Giants would be brilliant to just hop on him and just say, you come over here to New York.

6:35You tell Jackson Dart what to do. Let's go. Or Jameis. Jameis. Let's talk about this game, man. Love Jameis, man. Let me just tell you this, okay? Yeah. Listen, Mike Kafka, let's have Gunnar Olszewski throw one to Jameis Winston. Okay? First of all, whatever caused you to think that, Mike, whatever caused you, let's dial it up against the Detroit Lions in Detroit. Whatever put that in the playbook, you dialing it up, and it actually happening. oh my gosh what a moment in time that was because Jameis had yak it wasn't just him it wasn't just like some Philly special inside the 10 that was awesome and then Jameis had already made Wandale Robinson offensive player of the week type candidate you know what I mean so this is exactly why I'm sitting here thinking you know just keep Jackson Dart nailed to the bench.

7:39Let Jameis finish this season. There's only two wins. Once again, they lose a game. They snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on the road. I mean, this is the stat. The difference between the Giants having a season that their fans will never forget to having an interim head coach and a quarterback in a concussion protocol right now. You ready? I feel like here it comes. Here it comes. This sums it all up in Giants fans sitting at home, wherever Alan Dallas and the rest of the Giants fans are here. Here it comes. Week 12 was the Giants' seventh consecutive game against a team currently two games above.500.

8:22And in those games, the Giants have five losses when they held the lead in the fourth quarter.

8:29Rich Eisen:So they have the horses to compete. They have the horses to beat. And then don't. They could have six or seven wins. And Dayball could be sitting there. He didn't fire Shane Bowen when everybody's saying they should fire him. The defensive coordinator. Well, Mike Kafka just did it this morning. The D.C.'s gone. How about that? The D.C. fired by an interim head coach. I mean, oof. Can they do that? I mean, if you're Shane Bowen, you're like, can I speak to the manager? I have my receipt. It's called a contract signed by Mara and Tisch. You can do this? So the interim head coach is now the Karen of coaching?

9:16Well, and for at any moment in time that you might have thought well, Wandale Robinson is an offensive player of the week candidate because he had over 100 yards in the first quarter, 156 yards most by a Giants player since Malik Nabors. Remember him? did it this year in week two for the Giants way back when, when everybody thought they had a chance to beat the Dallas Cowboys. Could you also imagine if they started Jameis to start the season? Not to pile more on Russ, but at any rate, Londo Robinson, nice game. Jameis Winston, 366 pass yards and a touchdown reception. I've got a did you know to finish the show.

9:57It'll be great on that. Jameis is out there to wing it around. That's how these games go. And this is exactly why, again, Jackson Dart, just we've seen enough. We know he's good. We know you want to get reps. I'm sure Mike Kafka would love to show ownership what he can do with the kid as the HC and the OC. I totally understand that, but no more. You got Jameis. Let him do this. You could still try to win games, and you could still try to improve your world, but I've seen enough from Jackson Dart to put him anymore in the line of fire. but you want to talk offensive player of the week there's only three words for jameer gibbs and it's it's simple and they are they are oh my god honestly i don't know of a listen i know mcafree is unreal and i know jonathan taylor's been unreal and i know jackson smith and jigba has already certainly in a season in which we're wondering how will they do without DK Metcalf and JSN?

11:00Is he ready to be number one? He has broken DK Metcalf's Seattle Seahawks single season receiving record in 11 games. That's wild. He's already 10 better than DK's best season in 11 games. But Jameer Gibbs is the only one that makes me get off my couch and curse.

11:30I'm serious I have him on my fantasy team So I curse Well I mean Cooper's cursing Because he's losing with him How is anyone with Gibbs this week Losing He's so unlucky He is so upset right now You have no idea He had to have put up 60 points In every league He got me 57.4 I had to talk him down

11:52Rich Eisen:15 carries 219 rush yards A career high His average Per carry against the New York Giants. And this is why maybe Shane Bowen finally got the call. You want to guess what his yards per carry was? No, you do the math in your head right here. I just gave it to you. 14.6 yards per carry. I mean, two rushing touchdowns. He had 11 catches too. This is what you do. And again, note to Vegas. I understand Jameer Gibbs has been in the league for a couple years. That's 26 touches. 26 touches. Second career game with 200 or more scrimmage yards. Third Lions player with multiple games of 200 or more scrimmage yards.

12:44Rich Eisen:Most rushes by a Lions player since Barry Sanders. Who he is now about to run down. We're updating the list. We showed you this list the other day when he had just 41 career touchdowns, which was ranked fifth all time by most touchdowns scored by somebody who's not yet 24 years old. He's now tied with Randy Moss for second place. He had 41. He's now got 44 after today, after yesterday. And if he has the same result against the Packers, he'll have tied Barry Sanders on Thanksgiving. And again, just to remind everybody, he doesn't turn another year older until next March, the 20th. So he's going to be 23 years old for the rest of the season.

13:33Rich Eisen:Again, he doesn't have a new year in his life until there's a new league year in the NFL.

13:43Rich Eisen:And they needed every yard from him yesterday. every yard because crazy Jameis showed up and Mike Kafka's like okay you want to see a bag of tricks how's Gunnar Olszewski putting one up for a touchdown from 30 something yards out

14:03Rich Eisen:I mean Jared Goff who's been around some talented players certainly here in Los Angeles I think he's running out of words for Gibbs yeah that dude's as good as they come in our league and he's making his claim across the league as one of the best players regardless of position and we're lucky to have him man he's so electric and for him to be able to do that to supplement some of the struggles we were having was awesome you can tell the fear in the defense you know when the ball gets in his hands the way they rally to him and then certainly when he gets to the second level on some of those longer runs like you can feel the the safety the angle they start taking and it's it's a good feeling for us and it's hard for our defense you know what he looks like, you know what he reminds me of?

14:46I said it on the Overreaction Monday pod. I'll say it here to you, TJ. You didn't hear me say it before. He looks like Reggie Bush in college. And this is Pro Bowl. Interesting. Running away from people. Reggie made me curse too coming off the couch. I'm like, oh, oh, yes. Oh my goodness. Randomly? I saw Reggie Bush on Saturday just randomly at Black Football.

15:09Rich Eisen:Good to know. I'm on Ross St. Brown. 505 now career receptions. That's six shy of breaking Michael Thomas' all-time record through the first five seasons of a career. Remember I told you he was a top five receiver in the league years ago, and you looked at me like I had three heads. I don't remember that part. I remember you saying it. I don't remember us looking at you like you were crazy. I also said Derrick Henry is a Hall of Famer. You looked at me like I had three heads. Well, that was at the time. Got it. That was four years ago. This is why I don't want to quit on the Lions either. You're just very quick on putting people in.

15:43I got three days left until I have to make a mulligan on NFL Game Day morning's Thanksgiving show. And you should make a mulligan with both teams. Ooh. You should have made a mulligan. I got Chiefs and Lions. Yeah. Should have mulliganed when you picked the Eagles yesterday. I saw that. Everybody did. Literally everybody did. Oh, I saw it. It's also because it was a food segment, and I wanted the Philadelphia food more than this. Oh, interesting. Cowboys food had pickles on it. I'm not a pickles guy. See, I don't blame you there. I probably would have done the same thing. George Pickles? Should have taken the George Pickles.

16:18The Lions are there.

16:20Rich Eisen:But the Bears, man, and the Bears. The Bears come into Detroit for the last game of the year. Oh, they actually get Detroit in Soldier Field last game of the year. Soldier Boy. I mean, should Tirico get his winter clothes on for that one? I mean, that's going to be for the North, right? Just like last year. It's either north or top of the wild card standings. But then there's the Packers, too, who are in Detroit Thanksgiving Day to kick it all off. Holy crap. This is wild, man. I don't know anything that's going to happen. This is great. Thanksgiving. And then Dallas, then out here against the Rams.

16:53Rich Eisen:Best team in the NFC and the whole league right now. Before Rodgers gets one last spin in Detroit. Dallas is back. We go. That's a rough. That game was nuts. That game was nuts. Especially since Bates' field goal to tie it, 59 yards, went outside the right upright and came. It started at the right upright, inside the right upright, then went out and then came back in. It's like Phil Negro was sitting there smiling. That was a good one. I was thinking you need to pull it over to take a breathalyzer. That ball was drunk. Sit down, football. It could rock a straight line. 28 seconds left from 59 yards he was good no good overtime here we go Bates making the UFL proud that was great he's so good man that witching hour was Hanson okay I need that for a six leg parlay that's all I'm saying Jimmy in San Antonio has something he wants to say what's up Jimmy May.

18:03Paso, vacheros. Way to go, cowboy. Hello, muchacho. Let's go. What up, man? All right. So let's see. Tell him, Jimmy. Where do I start?

18:12Rich Eisen:Walk in the front door, Jimmy. Walk in the front door. Burst it down. Go. Carl Anthony in New York City. I have not heard from you. I'm tired of you picking on TJ. And if you need mariachis, TJ, I kind of know people here in San Antonio. Hey! Hold on. Look up. When are the Knicks in San Antonio? Let's see. When are the Knicks in San Antonio? Let's do this wide open. Let's do this in the open. All right. What's Jimmy saying? To him some flowers. But I won't because they had zero points in the second half. He gets no flowers. Yeah. Nothing, Jimmy. That's what I was thinking. Come on. One of the Knicks in San Antonio.

18:55Rich Eisen:New Year's Eve. Let's go, Jimmy. Oh, yeah. Jimmy. We have to do this for TJ Because he'll never do it I don't care that much I just don't like how he picks on TJ TJ's a bigger man I understand But I'm not that big of a man You are Can you put up the picture Of the flowers and the balloon please How is this not A photograph Of a man who's being picked on This is a rich person with discretionary income Wasting their money You have no kids I got mariachi money TJ Let me do you a favor Sell me the ping pong table And that's enough For whatever Jimmy can cook up The thing is This means more to you guys I don't care Is this a bit I really don't I think at the very least you should go to the game and hold up a sign like defending TJ or something.

19:59I will take care of this in an appropriate fashion. Thank you, sir. Jimmy.

20:06Rich Eisen:Jimmy in San Antonio has our back, everybody. Come on. I told you. I'm focused on the Chiefs, all right? I don't care about payback. You know what? You know? I'll be honest with you. I don't like high road TJ. High road TJ. I don't like high road TJ. Younger me would have been down to like, you know, jump somebody in a parking lot. That's not me anymore, man. Come on. I don't know any difference. Either you're going to mess with me and I'm going to jump you in a parking lot or I'm going to leave you alone. This show is all about nuance. There's something in between jumping somebody in a parking lot and doing nothing.

20:43I'm not about that life. There's something in between and you should do it because there's no other Dallas Philadelphia games this year unless. Oh, baby. Oh, yeah. There's a third trip. Let's do it. Cowboys have a lot of work to make that happen. A lot of work. Cowboys, seven seed. Eagles, two seed. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Delicious. That's Sunday. Sunday, four Eastern. That's a good one, Mike. Wild card weekend. He's in. Delicious. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. Back with more here on the Rich Eisen Show. Disney Plus, ESPN app, and ESPN radio presented by Progressive Insurance.

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