Hour 3: Guest Host Bobby Bones plus Singer/Actor Nick Jonas

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1:28You don't stop. With guest host, Bobby Bones. Rich Eisen, he's calling me, that's cool. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider, Ian Rapoport. College football insider for The Athletic, Stuart Mandel. Coming up, actor and musician, Nick Jonas. and now sitting in for Rich it's Bobby Bones

2:00thank you everybody call us 844-204-RICH it's always fun for me to hang out and do a few hours here with the boys you can watch us on Disney Plus and on the ESPN app listen to us on ESPN Radio Sirius XM Channel 80 you can follow on Instagram at Rich Eisen Show or the old YouTube channel which is I pretty much consumed through the YouTube channel. Oh, thank you. Or the podcast at night. Sometimes I sleep with you guys. Oh. Put one AirPod in and listen to as much as I can every night. No, I'm going to tell you something, Bobby. Rich would take that as a diss. He would. He would. He'd be like, oh, well, you'll fall asleep.

2:36Because I told an actor once that I... Yeah, who did you tell? Yeah, who was that thing you told? From the boys. Dennis Quaid's son. Oh, yeah. Jack Quaid. Jack Quaid. I said, you know, I start watching the boys, Bobby, and I fall asleep watching... Oh, that's good. I'd be offended by that one. I'll be honest with you. So you and Rich are two peas in the pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, Rich worked the 2 a.m. SportsCenter forever. Thousands and thousands of males our age now fell asleep to Rich and Stu. Or as I said, slept with them. You said slept with you guys too. I wouldn't put it like that personally.

3:16Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, listen, I have like 19 shows that I do, which by the way, I guess the one that I'll share, I do a show for the NFL called Lots to Say with Matt Castle. And I don't know, check it out if you want. But I listen to this podcast sometimes fully, but sometimes I fall asleep and I sleep with you guys. I appreciate that, man, because you are busy. You got a lot of stuff going on, dog. Yeah, I got a baby too. The most important. How old? Five months. Yeah, buddy, you are in it. Her name is Billy. Billy. Billy Bones. My wife would kill you. that is not my real name and my wife does not go by caitlin bones she should it's great it's a great name uh baby's full name is billy tj jefferson wait a second i haven't heard my wife would kill you oh she would kill you if people call her caitlin bones if we're somewhere and they're like are you caitlin bones she's nice about it but she's like no my last name is estel and they're like oh aren't you bobby yeah and she's like you know what his last name is estel too it bones is a stage name why does she she shouldn't break she doesn't hate it she just is not a fictional character.

4:14I am. Yeah, kayfabe, TJ, come on now. What are we doing? I'm saying, like, you know. You think Roman Reigns is really Roman Reigns? No, but she also wants me to come home and not be Bobby Bones. I did. Is that possible? Are you able to turn the switch off? Oh, it is now. She's put some balance in my life and the baby. I come home and I'm Bobby Estill. Yeah? Yeah. Bobby Bones, like, doesn't really care. I'm not even I don't even talk that much. Here I am. Ah! Anyway, enough. Bobby, this happened to me when I became a father. Did you just immediately forget everything that happened previously in your life up to the point of their birth?

4:44You know, it's weird because sometimes we'll go, we don't know what life was like before this. Yeah. Because we used to live carefree, baby. We would just go to another country. Do whatever you want. Or dinner. Leave the house. Yeah. Bruckman used to take naps. Oh, dude. I used to nap every day for multiple hours. No way. In my clothes. And I would make fun of it. With my jacket on. I would just go home and wherever I was, that's where I was sleeping for the next couple hours. It's awesome. And now she like smiles at me and knows me and stuff. Yeah. But not as Bobby Bones. She's like, well, she doesn't talk.

5:20But if she did. If she was talking already, I mean. We do have people on that want to talk about teams that are going to be better than everybody thinks. And I do want to go over to, let's go to Andrew in Detroit who is on. Andrew. Andrew, I'm curious. Who do you think will be better NFL wise than what people think? I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will win the NFC South, and I believe they will be the team that's going to be the surprise that you would think Carolina and some folks would say in the same. But I think with the contract here, I believe that especially if Dieter Bale stays there for the year, I believe that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will win their division and win a playoff game.

6:05Side note, I also believe that most universities are the reason why they don't become great. Too many universities like to live in the past. We've won a championship like this 30, 40 years ago. You have to move with the times. There's no reason why teams like Nebraska or Georgia Tech still be doing triple option when those type of teams have not won in almost 40 years. like you have to change with the times you can keep tradition but if you don't move with the time then you won't be able to continue on so I don't believe that I believe in tradition but I also believe in you have to move how things are moving I appreciate that thinking about the Bucs Mike Evans is gone which is weird because I had to remind myself he's a 49er that's bizarre right but doesn't it also in a weird way seem like oh yeah he's always been a 49er not yet Really?

7:03Maybe after he plays a few games But I mean, he does feel like The perfect 49er He was always a 49er Maybe it's jersey color Going from red to red The weird thing about Baker last season too is First half of the year he played really well Second half of the year not so much, but he did have the injuries They did miss the playoffs The contract situation is always interesting Especially when you have someone who is very outspoken Like Baker But granularly, this is the fourth offensive coordinator in four years, I believe. And that's a lot of switching, right? Again, I'd never played quarterback for an NFL team, but I'm told.

7:39It's hard. Another coordinator, a new system. I believe you could if you tried really hard, though, Bobby. I do, too. I believe I can do anything. Yeah. I'm really excited to see Bain play, though. I think that. Bain. Bain. Yeah. You have to say his name like that. I'm sorry. Okay. Bain Jr. That, to me, is going to be fun to see if that translates. Yeah. I think Bain's going to win Defensive Rookie of the Year. Okay. It's a good chance. He's going to win the trophy. He's going to win the trophy. The Rams should have taken him at 13. I'm going to say this until the season's over. Well, the Rams, a lot of people could have and should have.

8:16I know, but specifically he was there and the Rams took a player who, in the best case scenario for the season, is not going to play this year. Hey, Stetson Bennett's been whipping that ball around. Right. And the guy you took may not even be the backup. Yes, he's going to be the – yes, correct. And that was my point. Seth Bennett's going to probably be the backup. I would assume. More than likely. But I don't think when... I agree. I guess the logic was the Rams aren't going to be bad. They're not going to have a chance to draft a quarterback anytime in the next couple to few years, so why not do it this last year when they have the opportunity?

8:49That was the logic that I was told. Well, because when Stafford decides he's done, Joe Burrow's just going to come. Bingo! Hey, the crazy thing about Stafford is that he's a 99 on Madden. He's, again, We talk about old players that make us feel like we're still part in the mix. That staffer, they were acting like last year his elbows didn't work. Like he couldn't bend. He was back. Yeah, he couldn't even bend over. Yeah. He needed people to walk on it. And now he's a 99. He's awesome. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but make up your mind. Is he old and decrepit or is he amazing? It's amazing.

9:20Should he be a 99? Yeah. That's another debate. He's MVP, dog. 92. You know if it were me. 92. That's hater right there. By the way, 94. Okay. He gets negative rushing yards every year. Yeah, he's doing it. We're not hating. We're not. I'm not hating. I'm literally pointing out. 99 is. I like Matthew Stafford. Yes. Your wife loves Matthew Stafford. It's still her voicemail. I get it. You're right. Too old. If you call Sarah's phone, it says, you've reached the phone of Sarah and Matthew Stafford. Please leave a message. I'd lower them, too, if I were you. Just saying. Yeah. I do want to go talk to Manny and El Paso.

10:00Manny! Manny. You're on, Manny. Hello, gentlemen. Salutations from the desert of El Paso. Mr. Jones, it's an honor to speak to you, sir. So, I heard you say villains with NFL teams. But first of all, the Cowboys would be the team that are going to do better this year because they're flying underneath the radar. At this point of last year, how many Jerry Jones drops did we have? He's staying off the radar. We haven't gotten any drops from him lately. So that's my theory. But the reason for my call is, have you gentlemen seen that the NFL and Disney, Marvel, and Star Wars have teamed up to sell shirts and stuff with characters associated with the teams?

10:39There were some that were easy contacts. The Raiders got Darth Vader. The Cowboys got Woody. Brockman, I'm not sure if you're a Marvel fan, but you got a good one. You got Captain America. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, we did. I'm just wondering if you've seen this. And the article I did see is on Sports Illustrated and on Bootser Report. So you want to take a look at that, guys? That's all I got. Love the show. Be safe. Be kind. Let's watch some sports, guys. Bye-bye. All right, man. That's the energy we want. Okay. Man, he's great. You know what's fun? NFL teams as Marvel characters, and I'm not sure that if this has already been done.

11:10This is the first I've heard of it. But if I were to do characters, I would go the Kansas City Chiefs are Thanos. And I think Thanos is the most misunderstood, most ill-interpreted villain of all time. Oh, please explain this. They're all sold out, too, on the Disney store. He's got to make a choice. Everybody dies or he has to kill half to save the other half. Like, what a terrible position to be in. That's the worst position to be in. Like, everybody dies, okay? We're just going to let it go. I'll die. Or I have to snap my fingers and kill half so the Earth can live. Yeah, not a fun decision to make, but leaders don't have it easy.

11:47If you're going to be a leader, you've got to make tough decisions. Justice for Thanos. This is a nice thing. He did it at random, too. I never looked at it like that. That's because I'm a leader. I have to make tough decisions. I get it. Tomorrow, one of you must go. Oh, no. Which one? I won't be here tomorrow. I'm not going to be here either. I made it easy for you. By the way, half. Hey, two-thirds of the population are gone. Mr. Stark, I don't feel so well. Dallas Cowboys, Iron Man. Okay. That's what I would put there. Really? rich famous flashy enormous ego come on that yeah i give you one more i got a call to take buffalo bills or spider-man is that marvel yeah yeah yeah i get confused sometimes yeah i got you um every neighborhood generally everybody likes them oh yeah lions too you can see the lions detroit though has a little rough reputation i agree with the lions but detroit itself yeah you want them to be complicated frank punisher uh no well i'm not there i haven't I'm making this up on the fly here.

12:52Buffalo Bills, I'm going to go Spider-Man because they're easy to root for. They constantly get knocked down. Somehow they're optimistic, even after all every time they lose in the AFC Championship game or before. That's all I got. Who's Hulk? I guess I just come up with this off my head. The Jets. They're green. Green Goblin. And sometimes they suck. The only movie I've ever walked out of was the Eric Banner Hulk version? Oh, yeah, that was pretty bad. I feel like I did. I like all those Hulks, by the way. I liked Banner. I liked... That's wild. What's his face? Ed Norton. I liked all of them.

13:29See, to me, Hulk is my ultimate favorite superhero, right? There's Hulk, and then there's everybody else. When Thanos pieced up Hulk in that movie and just beat up Hulk to the point where he, you know, relocated to Williamsburg and became a hipster, that kind of took some of my love for those movies away, man, because I grew up thinking the Hulk was the biggest, the strongest, the roughest, the toughest, and then he got his butt just thoroughly kicked. Like I said, as a Hulk fanatic, I didn't love any of the Hulk movies and definitely didn't love what Thanos did to him. Justice for Thanos, don't make me say it again.

14:04I still haven't watched those movies yet. I'm not even going to judge you because I've never seen one, the Sopranos television show and I've never seen The Goodfellas, The Godfather. There's all those. I've never seen any of them. Nah, we don't have to. I got a baby. I just mean I haven't seen Endgame and all those ones. Oh, but you've seen some of the... Yeah, of course. If I were going to do one as Detroit since it was mentioned, thinking back, I'd probably do Captain America. Because of the blue collar. The blue collar auto industry. No. Like earnest. I feel like people in Detroit are like for real.

14:38Like earnest people. If you meet them, you like them, you understand. They may be a little rough, but they... I don't know. I'd go Captain America. They're blue. Blue. Did you say blue? I mean, I know we're playing in a few barber shops in Detroit right now. So what up, Jeff? And he was frozen for decades. Think about this. Decades over a decade. And here they come back. This segment gets better and better. You are cooking right now. Chris in Lexington, Kentucky is on. Chris, tell me the team that you think will be better than people think. Bobby, great show. First time I've ever heard you stepping in for riches.

15:10I'm a first time caller, by the way. Thank you. Love the show. So before I give my answer, I want to give a shout-out to TJ, because TJ, I know you're a Yenzer, so am I. Born and raised in the Mon Valley, my friend. Actually, going back, I go back every year to a Steeler game, so I'll be going back in November. What high school did you go to? From what I understand you're from, I believe the Altoona area. So I just want to give a shout-out to Pittsburgh. What high school did you go to, Chris? Ringgold. Ringgold, okay. Got it. Yes, sir. What's up? Class of 1988. Boom. and I heard what you were saying earlier when you guys were talking about Rich and Stu put so many of us people my age bracket to bed.

15:51I want to talk to Rich someday and that's one thing I will say to him you guys put me to bed more than my mother did. But I everybody's down on my Steelers Bobby and I just, you know, I'm not delusional I know this isn't 2010 Aaron Rodgers, I get it But, you know, and I heard Rich talk about it on his show. I really like last year's draft and this year's draft. We finally have another weapon for DK. I think that's part of why the offense was so stagnant. I mean, it was DK and a bunch of castoffs. You know, picking up Michael Pittman Jr., I think it's huge. Jeremy Bernard, Alabama, as a third wide receiver.

16:34I think our defense, I love Patrick Graham's scheme. and I read something not too long ago. He said when he was the defensive coordinator for the Raiders last year, he could only run about 50 % of his schemes just because the personnel wasn't there. And he was so excited when he looked at our personnel because he's an attack kind of guy, which that's the kind of style. I miss us playing defensively. I'm not saying we're a Super Bowl contender, but I also believe that we're going to win 10, 11 games. Call me crazy, but that's where I think we're going to fall, and I think we're going to be in the running for maybe not the division, but at least a wild-card spot.

17:14Kind of wanted to bounce that off you guys, see if you guys think I'm nuts or not. It would be fun as a Steelers fan to win 10 or 11 games after a lot of 9 and 8, those type seasons, I think. Mike McCarthy's there now, right? Am I crazy? You are crazy, but Mike McCarthy is there. Okay, so again, I don't... And there's a 13-year relationship with him and Aaron. They won a Super Bowl together. You know, supposedly ended on a sour note, but I've read too much this summer. You know, they've kissed and made up. And, you know, and that's the other thing, Bobby. I mean, I don't think this is going to be Aaron playing games with us.

17:46I think this time next year Aaron will be off in Malibu, you know, having a cold drink on the beach. So I think every bullet that's left in his gun, he's going to let fly. And I still saw that arm strength last year, and he knows McCarthy's system better than anybody. Bobby. Yeah, he threw 28 touchdowns, 8 interceptions last year, so it wasn't like he was bad. I mean, no. So, I hear you. I think they could win 9 plus games, I think. But, and defensively, T.J. Watt obviously is what he is, but they have Highsmith and Joey Porter Jr. I think the Steelers could be good. I hope they're good. I think the league's better when the Steelers are good.

18:25I mean, statistically, they're going to go over 500, right? Because they do it every year. Well, new coach, though. Hey, you know who the second most famous Ringgold High School alumni is after Chris? I don't know the first. Joe Montana. I do, TJ. Yeah, yeah. That's after you. You're number one. Joe Montana. Yeah. You're number one, Joe Montana number two. That's awesome. I said Joe Montana. Exactly. It's really cool. It was a replica. It's obviously not real, but when they won their first Super Bowl back in the early 80s, I could still see it in our gymnasium, and it's just a lot of pride. TJ, you're going to know, I grew up in Finleyville, so about 10 miles away from Anongahela, which is where Joe's from and it was just really, really cool once I graduated and got out into the world and I went to Ringgold High School and I said, hey, guess you know who graduated?

19:16From Ringgold? No, Joe Montana. I was like, look it up, look it up. We really appreciate that call. Thanks, Chris, man. Call us back, Chris. We're going to talk to Nick Jonas in a second. Also, I'm a big Cubs fan and I love drama, so we'll get into Little Cubs drama. You love drama? I love talking about drama. Oh, okay. Since I got married, I don't love it as much. I used to fight everybody. Oh, yeah? I got married and I don't really do that anymore. Softens you up a bit? Well, fatherhood definitely softens you up, right? Yeah, fatherhood makes me sleepier. That's what it does. Okay, we will come back and we will talk to Nick Jonas next here on The Rich Eisen Show.

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21:45He's joining us on behalf of DraftKings and starring in DraftKings' new campaign, Take Your Game Anywhere. What does that mean, Take Your Game Anywhere, Nick? Well, DraftKings is available nationwide now, and the Take Your Game Anywhere campaign was another chance for me to create with a buddy of mine, Kevin Hart, who's been a longtime ambassador and friend of DraftKings and a friend of mine. We've now done three movies together, the third Jumanji installment coming out on Christmas Day, which will be fun for the fans. But any chance to get to work with him and then create experiences for my fans and for sports fans at large is always fun for me.

22:30And I just had so much fun with this campaign. The whole concept is around getting on a road trip to celebrate the DraftKings app being available nationwide. And I think it's just a really fun campaign and perfect for this next chapter of the sports season coming up. We have Nick Jonas on with us. I'm going to let you two decide who wants to ask him about the Christmas movie because they love the Christmas movie. That would be me. Chris, you want to go? Oh, man. Nick, huge fan. Love the Christmas movie. Are we getting a sequel? We had a lot of fun with the Christmas movie. We teamed back up with our friends over at Disney, and it was just a ball.

23:14We've always dreamt of doing a Christmas film, And it wasn't until we sat down with the team over at Disney back in 2019 and resurrected a bunch of ideas that we had started back in our first couple of years working with Disney back in the day. And they put a great team around it and came to us with a great creative. And, you know, as dads know, all of us are dads. I think it's creating experiences for families to share together that are just fun. Don't take themselves too seriously and create that feeling of togetherness during the holiday season is what it's all about. So as far as the sequel goes, I'm not entirely sure anything could happen.

23:56We did just produce and do a little cameo in our second project with Disney since kind of coming back to them, which is Camp Rock 3, which came out about a week and a half ago. The response has been incredible. And, you know, we're down for whatever, whatever they want to throw at us. Yeah, super fun. Immediately enters the rotation on the holiday season. So congrats on that and looking forward to it. Appreciate that. We were talking about being dads a minute ago. I have a five-month-old baby, first baby for me. Yours four or five around that age, right? Four and a half. Yeah, so what have you learned about you?

24:30because I'm going through this now. What have you learned about you since having a kid? Well, I think that the main thing I've learned about myself through having a kid is just there's that first couple years where you really realize how quickly we fall into certain patterns and start to see the world certain ways. And when you have to explain why glass is clear, for instance, it kind of opens your mind up beyond just being quick on your feet and coming up with answers that make sense. You're also helping shape their worldview and who they become and what's important to them and how they treat others and all these things that, you know, we know we're stepping into as parents, but until you're in it in real time and these little moments matter as much as they do, I think, you know, you just have to sort of lock in and it also makes you see the world in new and exciting ways and with the same wonder that their little minds are seeing it for the first time.

25:29So you've obviously done music, you've acted in movies and television, but you've also done Broadway. What's the difference for you as a performer when you're on Broadway? Well, I mean, for me, I think it's the closest thing to being an athlete. I really admire Broadway performers and, you know, I've done a bunch of shows now and love tapping back into it. But those that do it, you know, day in, day out for a year or more, it's eight shows a week, six days a week. So it's really, I think, the most physically taxing version of performing you can do. I mean, it's a grind and it is something that I think, you know, is reserved for the strong at heart and a strong mind.

26:20So hats off to those that are performing on Broadway at the moment or Broadway performance as a whole. It's really an impressive thing. And I love doing it and getting to express myself in that way through, you know, acting, dancing, singing all on one stage. And I always look forward to my return to Broadway someday. We have Nick Jonas on with us who is joining us on behalf of DraftKings and starring in the new DraftKings new campaign, Take Your Game Anywhere. You have a favorite NFL team? Well, as I mentioned, we grew up in Jersey and, you know, been lifelong Giants fans. and really looking forward to this season, Coach Harbaugh and Jackson Dart and Scadaboo.