Hour 3: Guest Host Suzy Shuster, Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin

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1:13But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Let me break it down for you again. With guest host, Suzy Schuster. From The Rich Eisen Show's studio in Los Angeles. Bad Yankee Loose. Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider, Tom Palacero. Basketball Hall of Famer, Charles Barkley. Coming up. Vibe Check co-host, Jeneo Gumake. Pro Football Hall of Famer, Michael Irvin. And now, Suzy Schuster. Suzy Schuster in for Rich Eisen here on the Rich Eisen Show. Our number three is underway.

2:02Really thrilled to be here with you. 844-204-RICH is the number to call. The lines are lit, and they really want to talk about baseball, so we're going to get to them. Watch us here on Disney +, on the ESPN app. Listen to us on ESPN Radio. Presented by Progressive Insurance. Follow us on X, Instagram, at Rich Eisen Show. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. where you can find all of the videos. YouTube.com slash RichEyesAndShow, wherever you guys find your podcast. Really happy to be here with you, TJ, with you, Mikey, with you, Chris Brockman. Hey, Suze. Hey, Suze. Hey, how are you? What's up? How are you?

2:36What up, though? Yeah, great to be here with you. Charles Barkley, I thought was, you know, I'm biased, but I thought he was fantastic. So if you missed him, you can listen to him on the RichEyesAndShow, wherever you want to find this particular show, anywhere you want to find it, on Disney Plus or on YouTube. And Sinead Ogumuke will join us soon to talk about what's going on with the WNBA, not only about the incredible amount of the audience that is flocking to watch women play incredible basketball, but also about this crossroads we're at with the WNBA, with their commissioner and with the league.

3:09So we'll talk about that as well, as well as the game ahead tonight on Prime and a little bit of baseball floated in there as well. And Michael Irvin, I mean, how can I not also let you guys know that Michael will be joining us in 20, 25 minutes time? So excited to have that as well. You bring in all my idols, all the heroes of my youth. Charles Barkley, after Dr. J became my favorite basketball player. Mike Irvin, we know how I feel about the Cowboys. So you should come in more often. I really should. You're not wrong. And you sent me a great picture of you and Charles. And by the way, it was without the locks.

3:41I mean, it was a very young. That's when I still was rocking the baby fro. It was a baby fro. I couldn't find the color version. I don't know where it's at. Send it to Hoskins. We've got to get that one up, please. We've got to get it up. Can we take a call? Let's take a call before Sinead joins us. Okay, let's go to, who should we go to? It's all baseball. So you want to go Manny? Yeah, let's go Manny. He's been waiting a while. Hey, Manny, how are you? Buenos dias, caballeros. Y la señorita Susie Schuster. Como estamos? Todo bien, Manny. Como estas? Oh, beautifully put. Well, Yankees are out.

4:12I don't fault the players, but Aaron Boone's answer when he was asked as if he's going to be returning as manager, really rubbed me the wrong way. Amen, you can't. One of Mr. Eisen's favorite words came to mind, along with several others. Schmicky. I got the NASCAR. I got the Cowboys. I got the Avalanche playing tonight. Second thing I want to say, it's October 9th. What costume ideas do we have for this year's Halloween? Mr. Brockman, you and Cage have to have something planned out already this year. Uncle TJ, I'm pretty sure you got a plan. Mr. Zeltufo. I'm sure there's some Halloween disco party you're going to be DJing later on.

4:50But the big question is, what is the Eisen family going to dress up as? Anyways, that's all I got. Let's be safe. Let's be kind. Let's watch some sports, guys. Have a good one. Bye-bye. That is really well done. That is well done. That's how he does. Do you have a costume yet for Cage? Oh, yeah. He's doing one of the K-pop demon hunter people. Oh, he and Taylor could dress up together. They're locked in. Him and a bunch of his classmates are locked in. I think I'm finally in that world where I don't have to dress up anymore. Oh. And you know my friend Laura Wasser. Of course. She who loves to dress up for Halloween.

5:26So every year she and I would dress up in full, full-fledged costume to go torture our kids on campus. And we've run the gamut. There's been Cruella DeVille, which was excellent. I did the Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction. We were all the Incredibles as a family one year. Oh, yeah. And that was the year I think Xander was Adam Rippon. But no, we don't have a costume this year. I think I get to sit this one out, which I'm not going to lie. I thought maybe I'd be sad. I'm not that sad about it. That's pretty good. Take the day off. Was that higher register? Yes. I'm not that sad about it. I'm not that sad about it.

6:05What day is Halloween? Are we going to be on the air? It's October 31st, Chris. Thanks. What day of the week, idiot? Are we going to be on the air that day? No. It's a Friday. I am never wearing a costume again. It's a Friday. Wow. Not even one ounce. If I had kids, I wouldn't do it. I got egged as a kid wearing a costume, and that was the last time I wore a costume. Hold on. I'm going to send Hoskins a good shot. What were you wearing that got you egged? Dracula. All right. tj are we dressing up yeah you know i might repurpose i've had my last two costumes were pretty cool you know remember i was a little john snow one year and then uh last year i was what was last year oh it was randy watson jackson right now that's still randy watson so i don't know uh i might i might repurpose that or oh shay and i were talking you know our pods monday we might do a little something on our Monday no contest wrestling pod.

7:10I think you should come in full costume. Why wouldn't you take that opportunity? It's fun to dress up. Are you listening? I said it last two years. My costumes were exceptional. I went as the Night King one year, and I don't know if that's going to be topped. That was good. No, you'll never top that. That's a great costume. That was amazing. That year, we were actually really good because you were the Mets thumbs down guy. Rich was Fatwa Larry from Curb. Oh, yeah, that was funny. That was pretty good. Do you remember seeing The Night King for the first time? Yeah, Game of Thrones was sick. That was the coolest.

7:40And then it was terrible. I wish I'd never watched it. Yeah, I agree at the end. Yeah, I was Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman? I'm looking at that one. Are you looking at pictures of yourself right now? Yeah, why not? What else am I going to do? What are some of your best ones as an adult? How about this one? There we go. Oh, nice. I mean, that's a high-level Cruella de Vil. That's at an elementary school, people. Did you scare the children? Slightly? I mean, maybe. If you're going to do it, do it, right? I need to be so judgmental. Well, I mean, she was a scary character. Hold on. Hold on. This one.

8:15I got another one. If she doesn't scare you, obviously no evil things will. I scare a lot of people, Chris. You should know that about me. Yeah, I've been in your house. In fact, I scare myself. What do you mean by that? All right, I got another one. I'm trying to find the one of Rich in the Incredibles costume. That was a really good one. You guys did a good job that year. I remember that. Why can't I find it? That was at your old house. Remember the year Rich dressed up like a banana and cursed out one of your neighbors? Yes, I do remember that. That was great. Oh, here's one of Rich unshaven.

8:43Should we go with that one? I mean, or shaven. Shaven. This is very Steinbrennery. Hold on. I'm going to send this over to Hoskins. Steinbrennery. Steinbrennery. Remember when he used to make everybody shave? Oh, yeah. One year. Let's see. We did the Spidey and Friends the one year. Yeah, I remember that one. That was fun. That was a couple years ago. I'm trying to find Rich with the, you know, The banana, I don't know if I have. The banana was what, two years ago? The banana was... There it is. And what was the deal? It wasn't his neighbor. There's a neighborhood in the valley that closes down the street and all the houses decorate.

9:19There was some beef. There was a little drama. Well, somebody was... Were they talking about the Yankees? No. Was he a Dodger fan? Might have been... They were going by Kershaw's house, I think. Wasn't it? I forget. It was baseball related. But you know what it is? It's amazing how it's a kid's holiday, and yet people still want to get in Rich's face to have an argument about something when it comes to baseball or what have you. Well, he's a very aggressive Yankee fan. He is. He is. But it's also a kid's holiday, so take it down a notch. Should we take another call? Everyone should take it down a notch.

9:51Or should we just keep looking for pictures of ourselves? Let's take another call. Let's go to another disgruntled Yankee fan. Mike, line four. Line four, boom. Joey in Pensacola. Joey, what's up? Hey, how you doing? How are you, Joey? I'm doing well. I mean, it's just year after year filled with disappointment at defense, poor hitting. I mean, what do the Yankees have to do to get another championship? Well, what do you think they have to do? I think that they just kind of have to restructure their roster. They can't build it around the long ball. Like you said, if you're not hitting a home run, then what are you doing?

10:27You're not scoring runs. You're not playing good defense. The relievers are mediocre at best, and we get crushed by the Blue Jays. Yeah. Chris looks like he's not hurting over there at all. Well, look, Joey, I like you already. I can tell, but we root for different teams. So I think you should just extend Boone, keep him there forever. Obviously, Brian Cashman's doing a hell of a job. You know what I mean? Oh, boy. He's clearly not doing a great job. What are we looking at? We're looking at four years in a row of just pure disappointment. Last year in the World Series, getting absolutely blown out by the Dodgers.

11:02This year, getting blown out by the Blue Jays. I will have to say, though, Brockman, your Red Sox put up, you know, a mediocre fight at best for the wild card. I mean, we did win 10 out of the 14 games this year against you guys. I mean. Joey, don't let him troll you. I mean, don't. What's it worth it? Because our best player got injured. We don't have the best player in baseball. Our best player is a rookie. You guys should have swept us. Joey, you call into the show. You call into the show to be heard and understood. And then you get trolled by Chris Brockman. Give it back to him, Joey. Let's go.

11:36Come on. Give Joey a little help. Just get aggravated by Red Sox fans. They get on my nerves. Speaking of Red Sox fans, I want to throw a shout out to the Secretary's Cup, the Merchant Marine Academy versus Coast Guard playing at Fenway Park November 15th. Nice. It'll be on ESPN 8 to Ocho. Let's go. Do you know what I appreciate about you, Joey? The minute I said that, I'm like, go get him. An accent came out. You got aggressive. That's what I like to hear. Thank you for the call, Joey. Have a good one. Bye, Joe. Don't let him talk to you that way. Don't let him troll you. The Yankees lost Cole.

12:12They didn't lose a good player. Give him a little credit. Yankees needed more than Cole, though. Boone's got to go. Starting pitching wasn't the issue. I saw Boone do one of the greatest things in the history of baseball. And I'm done. I'm done with him. I'm done. He's got to go. Did you see that meme that was going around where if he hadn't hit that home run, he'd basically be the Savannah Bananas manager right now? I agree. I agree. That's his greatest moment is that home run. After that, it's like, as a Yankee fan, and Cashman, I'm sorry, these guys have lifetime contracts with the Yankees.

12:47It feels like they're never going to leave that team. It's bad. Which, by the way, Cage Brockman, big fan of the Savannah Bananas. I may be a fan of them I'm getting one of their hats I'm done with the Yankees I'm done, I'm seriously done I'm legitimately over this crap that we've dealt with as a Yankee fan they're very worried about that they stink, they stink they're terrible at least I come to a team that's actually they're good, the Dodgers I'll take the Dodgers I'm allowed good job Mike Oh, my God. What a take. Mike just started investing in Bitcoin, too. I mean, what a take. Take a call or talk WNBA.

13:29What should we do? What should we do? Whatever you want to do, Suze. I mean, I kind of want to talk just for a second. I mean, TJ and I cared about watching that game last night and watching Asia Wilson absolutely spectacular. The series is 3-0. I mean, the Aces have been on an incredible run the last couple months. And I saw this on ESPN last night. I think it was on SVP's show. an incredible graphic about Asia Wilson and Bill Russell about putting together MVPs and championships in a four-year cycle. And so she will be the only person on a graphic, should she get crowned on Friday, to have as many MVPs and as many crowns as the great Bill Russell.

14:08And can you imagine what a platform that is to be on? Because we watched her last night, And the fact of the matter is, how do you guard Asia Wilson? It's downright impossible. The woman just goes straight up and over everything, and she has an answer for everything. And if you leave her out in the key, she's going to hit it. If you let her penetrate inside, she's going to hit it. There's nothing she seemingly couldn't do in this game last night, TJ. What is, who is on the WNBA Mount Rushmore, and is Asia Wilson on it, TJ? Oh, that is a great question. That's a good question. Because off the top of your head, you think about some of the OGs.

14:46You've got to go Cynthia Cooper. Right, Cynthia Cooper. She's got to be on there. Who's there? Cheryl Swoops? Lisa Leslie. Lisa Leslie, Maya Moore. Rebecca Lobo, doesn't she have to be? Diana. I think in terms of being a trailblazer and a pioneer for when the league started, but if you actually look at the career, then I don't think you put Rebecca Lobo on the Mount Rushmore of WNBA. I feel like, though, I feel like she became a household name that she translated a lot of the interest. I feel like she was very early out there. She was the first of those UConn stars, too. Yeah. So, but like I said, if I'm going just strictly on based upon what they did in WNBA, I don't think.

15:30And I'm sure there's people out there better suited to answer that than me. But I would say you'd have to start with Cynthia Cooper. Look, the Houston Comets won first four WNBA championships. So, you know, you put her in there. Cheryl Swoops, you know, if you're going to go with the Comets, maybe Tina Thompson, she was on those teams. So there's a lot. You know, a lot of people really start paying attention to the league once Kaitlin got there. But this league had a history long before. Sue Bird has to be on, has to be, I think, on Toronto. Aussie, like, my goodness. There were so many great women.

16:09You can't just whittle it down to four. Yeah, there were so many great women that, unfortunately, people who talk WNBA now and argue and very much follow one player, they missed out or don't know about some tremendous women that balled. Yeah, Aja Wilson. Lauren Jackson. I mean, goodness gracious. Aja Wilson already a four-time MVP, and this is going to be what championship for them? Three if they close this out? Is that right? This would be the third four years. It's true Candace Parker. Right, Candace Parker. Yeah. Thank goodness. There's a lot. I know, there's a lot. Tameka Ketchings, like, you know.

16:44Yeah, this would be their third in four years. Yeah. Now, let me ask you a metaphysical question. I don't know what that means, but I'll answer it. Just go with me here. Since we said this is the Mount Rushmore, we just named, like, eight or nine people. Do you have to have the same amount of people as on Mount Rushmore? Oh, interesting. To make it a question about Mount Rushmore. Here's the deal. We never do. The John Madden turkey? You know how John Madden's turkey always had like six or eight legs? It's her ducking. So it's just like, you know, it's whatever you want it to be. I think everyone does a Mount Rushmore list, but I feel like most of those lists are usually four or five, you know, but it's just the Mount Rushmore because I think in your mind, you kind of know what that means.

17:23Shouldn't we be literal with it then? I mean, sure, but that makes it tough. I know. I know. We actually have to think. Just four. Just four players on the WMA all-time great. That's tough. He's asking a lot of us over here to have to think. I mean, come on. All right, fine. Let's take a break. When we come back, Michael Irvin, the playmaker. He never fails to show up. Look at that pink suit, too. Dang. He got so angry on the phone yesterday. Wait till I tell you all about it.

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19:33Back to the Rich Eisen show right here on ESPN radio. We are brought to you by Progressive Insurance. And when I make a phone call to Michael Irvin, he always answers for me. And I appreciate that so very much the playmaker himself, the Hall of Famer and Taylor Mattingly Eisen's godfather, Michael Evans. Hey Mike, how are you? Hey, you know I love you. I love you. I love you to life. I gotta say it that way because Deion gets mad when you say I love you to death. You know what I mean? But I love you to life and I will always love you, Suzy. Whenever you call, I will always be here. Hey Mike, yay man.

20:08That was such a great moment we had on this show. You know what I mean? It really was. I heard what you said too, Mike. You gotta continue that work now. Now you got to get back on it because right now, like even just spoken, talking about Dion. All guys our age, they're going through something. I'm beating that gym up every day trying to stay right here, if you know what I mean. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Now, speaking of Dion, when I called you yesterday, you're like, Suze, and I love this because she's like, Suze, hold on a second. All right. And then you went off on some podcaster who had the audacity to say that maybe Dion couldn't play against the modern day guys out there.

20:52And you, I mean, I was you heard me. I was howling on the phone. Give the boys a little bit of a sample of what you were saying out there. Well, seriously, you called me right. OK, I get up in the morning and I got to go through my thing before I turn on any social media. You know, my little devotion. Deion does it. We all, you know, just make sure we set our minds for the day. And then even coming right out of my devotion and all of that, I turn on, and this is boom, right here. Deion couldn't, I don't know if he can cover the guys today, you know. And then went on to talk about, they went on to talk about, well, these guys today are just too fast.

21:35They're too fast. And then they said, you know, the guys that used to play, They were not that fast in the picture of me. They put my image and Jerry Rice image up. So, yeah, I guess my devotion didn't work that much. I went straight off. I went straight off about that. Because really, man, you guys know I love the game, and we're continuing to pass down the game and teach the game to other people. But don't try to take away what we've accomplished in the game. You know what I mean? Like, there was a time when this game was different. I love the safety rules and all of that that they've made so everybody can stay healthy.

22:18But I played at a different time. And like I said on that video, I had to go in and play where pain lived and get comfortable with pain, something they would never know about. That's the reality of it. I mean, think about it. When we were at ESPN working together, we used to have a show called Jacked Up. Right. You got jacked up. That means the heart. We loved that show. That show was the best. With Tom Jackson. And we would tell him, Tom Jackson jacked up. We took the biggest hits and displayed them every week on TV. When people get knocked out. That's right. Knocked out. That's right. Right.

23:03That was the making of jacked up. They wouldn't even live like that today. That's the element that we had to go catch passes in. So don't tell me about somebody basically playing touch football and then try to put down what I did, what I had to go and make love to Payne like that. And I highly suggest that anybody who's interested listen to your podcast, Mike, because let me tell you something. it was one take and it was a thing of beauty yeah it was one take because you you you called soon as i was getting into it i said hold on hold on i just left you on the phone while i went on and then got back to it i said what's up man baby what's up oh no no that's exactly what i need i need you i need that what did you what did you just do i need that i'll call you tomorrow only Without all the F-bombs.

24:01I think I said without all the F-bombs. Yeah, without the F-bombs. You talk about teaching and you talk about setting the table for all these guys. What would you say to A.J. Brown now? I love A.J. Brown's grit and I love his fight. Now, I would say to the whole organization, you need his fight to be for you. You don't need his fight to be against you. You know what I'm saying? So I think they're trying to get in that place where they're working together. They love him because of that fight. You see how he takes that ball away from defensive backs. That's the fight within him. So you got to manage the fight because it's a great ally, but it's not so good when it's going against you.