In short
Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show mixes NFL team talk with comedy. Jaguars GM James Gladstone (Jacksonville Jaguars) discusses the offseason after the draft, rookie onboarding, and how the team plans to build toward 2026 while some staff turns to 2027.
Key claims
Jacksonville expects to carry momentum from last season’s “anti-fragility” after adversity (London loss, injuries like Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr., and a later loss to Houston after leading). Gladstone says Hunter is in a limited offseason status but will be full go in training camp, and that the Jaguars will not reduce his two-way role long-term.
Notable examples
Hunter’s 100-yard receiving game and a PBU vs. Davante Adams; the Jaguars’ run of wins after the Houston loss. He also outlines a running back committee after Travis Etienne left, naming Chris Rodriguez, Bashaw Tootin, LaQuinta Allen, and DJ Dallas.
Guests
Tom Segura, comedian/Netflix star and co-creator of Bad Thoughts (season two premiering May 24), plus discussion of his Rose Bowl Two Bears 5K and Netflix’s The Roast of Kevin Hart.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORich's Recap and Anticipation
2:12 to 4:05
Rich reflects on previous guests and builds excitement for the show.
“Hour number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air.”
Interview with James Gladstone
4:05 to 6:27
Jaguars GM James Gladstone discusses offseason and draft strategies.
“People who have made a significant dent on my life.”
Travis Hunter's Injury Update
6:27 to 8:50
Gladstone provides an update on Travis Hunter's recovery and usage.
“You know, I think the opposite of fragile.”
Jaguars Running Back Strategy
8:50 to 12:23
James Gladstone outlines the Jaguars' plan for the running back position.
“Obviously, being able to breach the 100-yard mark from a receiving standpoint, get in the end zone.”
Lessons from the Rams Organization
12:23 to 14:00
Gladstone shares insights from his time with the Rams and mentorship.
“He is set to play both sides of the ball, and we look forward to bringing that all the life here in the upcoming seats.”
Insights from Jags GM James Gladstone
14:00 to 19:34
James Gladstone shares his experiences and insights from his time with the Rams and Jaguars.
“You know, it's not unfamiliar territory for me or whatever you might label a stillness on day one of the draft without a first round.”
Comedian Tom Segura Discusses His Career
22:22 to 28:00
Tom Segura talks about his journey in comedy, his Netflix special, and recent projects.
“We saw a clip from Funny AF with Kevin Hart on Netflix last night.”
Season Two of Bad Thoughts
28:00 to 28:40
Learn about the evolution and excitement surrounding the new season.
“bad thoughts returns uh may 24th yes and this is uh season two season two which i'm so thankful for I feel like, you know, season one, you're like figuring out what a show is.”
The Genesis of a Show Idea
28:40 to 30:00
Discover how a unique idea for a show developed into a full series.
“But I love that Netflix, I've never, I've been in a bunch of development things.”
Opening a Bakery: A Passion Project
30:00 to 31:10
Find out how love for food led to the opening of a bakery.
“Where did the idea of opening a bakery hit you?”
Show all 18 chapters
Building a Bakery Brand in Austin
31:10 to 32:30
Explore the journey of establishing a bakery and its unique offerings.
“So somebody in Italian walking down past your bakery, like a little chuckle.”
Stand-Up Comedy Inspiration
32:30 to 34:20
Hear how witnessing great stand-up performances spurred immediate action.
“You and Nikki, and you were the judges, right?”
The Impact of Live Comedy Events
34:20 to 36:15
Learn about the significance of live comedy and its reception.
“If you're a singer and you watch somebody sing and you're like, oh my, it makes you want to do it.”
Celebrity Encounters and Humorous Moments
36:15 to 37:50
Discover funny and memorable encounters with celebrities at events.
“it does something different than just releasing something.”
Upcoming Events and Community Fun
37:50 to 39:55
Get insights into upcoming events that combine fun and fitness.
“And I was like, no, man, it was punk coverage in high school.”
Discussing 'Idiots' and Its Cast
43:50 to 45:12
O'Shea shares insights about his new film 'Idiots' and its cast.
“Now, listen, sir, I could see your T-shirt that you're wearing.”
Analyzing Recent NBA Games
45:12 to 46:19
A conversation about the performance of NBA teams and players.
“Idiots in theaters near you, and we'll talk about it.”
Reflections on NBA Playoff Dynamics
46:19 to 47:29
Discussion on playoff strategies and player behaviors in the NBA.
“Who, if I'm not mistaken, Jerry West was like, don't trade.”
Transcript
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1:58Rich Eisen:UCLA head coach Bob Chesney. Coming up. Jaguars general manager James Gladstone. Comedian Tom Segura. And now it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Already a great fun two hours on the program. Bob Chesney, the head coach of UCLA football, was sitting on that chair just an hour ago. Now he's gone. Back up to Westwood, California. Hour number one, we had the great Andrew Whitworth zooming in. His beard was glorious, and he said, Ryan Fitzpatrick blow-drys his beard. That's news. I just had a great chat with Tom Segura in our green room. He's going to come out in about 20 minutes' time.
2:40Rich Eisen:We're going to chop it up with him. He's got a ton to talk about with his shows and podcasts and so much that are happening with him. And what he did last night, he was in Funny AF with Kevin Hart and Nikki Glaser. I mean, the Netflix as a joke fest is outstanding. He's a big part of it, along with Bert Kreischer. Going to be at the Rose Bowl. Should we have him sign our Rose Bowl seats, too? Technically, if he's run a 5K at the Rose Bowl. He's going to the Rose Bowl. Run a 5K at the Rose Bowl? Yeah, that counts. I mean, let's get Tom Segura signed. Yeah, why not? We just can't have him sign near Troy Aikman, because that would be not the same, right?
3:15Rich Eisen:Not the same. You attended, you signed the back? Maybe next to Joel McHale. Yeah, because he didn't play. Right. Rich, if you've attended a Rose Bowl, maybe you signed the back. I don't like that idea You know what If I was the general manager of this team I would reject that I guess I am I generally manage To get through all three hours every day If everything was different Thank you If everything was different it would have been different Good new drop Mike from Wemby the other night James Gladstone is here on the Rich Eisen show General manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars Good to see you James how are you Life is good.
3:52Jack to be here.
3:53Rich Eisen:I'm Jack to have you on. You and I have some friends in common who speak very highly of you, James. You should know that. Love those guys, obviously, between Les and Kara. That's right. People who have made a significant dent on my life. I bet so. I know that they share a very similar sentiment when discussing you and your wife. I appreciate that, James. In the same virtual setting. Look at us, chilling out on a two box on a Zoom right here on the Rich Eisen Show. All right, so what does your job look like right now with the draft in the books, James? It's pretty fun, fresh off the field. You know, we're in phase two of the offseason program.
4:32Rookies are traveling into Jacksonville here this afternoon and this evening, and we'll get them in the building tomorrow morning and onboarded, and rookie minicamp will be over the course of the weekend. So a fun time with a lot of moving parts. Obviously, you know, with the draft just being wrapped up, we now transition into really the focus being on this football team in the lead up to 2026. Well, at the same time, a lot of our college staff is turning the page and focusing their attention on 2027.
5:00Rich Eisen:What did we see last year, James, from the concept of what you and Liam Cohn were cooking up programmatically, program wise, that you saw out on the field go, that's exactly what we wanted. That's exactly how it came out. What happened last year in that regard, do you think? That's a fun question to ask. You know, as I think back on last season as a whole, I think there was a lot of positive steps in totality. I think at the same time, we definitely felt versions of adversity. And one of them sort of finding our footing through back-to-back losses, one of which you got to call the game for in London against a team that Liam and I are intimate with in the L.A.
5:43Rams. And, you know, taking a bye week and resetting really where we were sort of strategizing around how we might level up over the course of the back half of the season and really feeling good about that plan of attack only for more adversity to hit. The fact that we were able to find our footing despite some of those adverse windows and bounce back in a real way and show some version of anti-fragility as a part of that, as a collective group, as a team. It was inspiring. I think it led to a lot more belief in what was being coached, being preached. And that momentum certainly has carried over into the early portions of this offseason and look forward to seeing what that continues to look like moving forward.
6:27Rich Eisen:Did you say anti-fragility? Is that what you said? I'm writing down. Oh, yeah. What is anti-fragility? What does that mean? You know, I think the opposite of fragile.
6:41It is an interesting way to, I guess, phrase some of that. But nonetheless, I think that, you know, as you think about that game in particular, right before the bye week, we're in London and we get beat pretty good. We come back off the bye and we're prepping for the Las Vegas Raiders. and Travis Hunter gets injured during that week. We come out, have a battle with the Raiders. They're really trying their best to salvage the season at the time, and they're fresh off their bye week, and Brian Thomas Jr. gets hurt in that game. And so we had a lot of guys level up towards the back half of that game itself and get us through with a win, only to turn around and play the Houston Texans and get a big lead and surrender that lead and exit with a loss.
7:29So I think that kind of window of a season, you know, it's not uncommon territory. It's likely to show itself, you know, one season after the next in some way, shape, or form. But to be able to overcome those windows is a really important element. And I think Liam's leadership, our coaching staff, they really did a great job, as did our players, to respond the right way.
7:49Rich Eisen:Yeah, you won every regular season game the rest of the way after that loss to Houston. And I do remember, you know, Liam talking about in our pre-broadcast meetings in London about not shooting them yourselves in the foot and not, you know, not having so many darn penalties. And then, you know, and then it was one of the worst games of the year in that regard for you guys. And I'll admit, like flying back, I'm like, where are the Jaguars going to go from here? You only lost one regular season game after that, and that was one in which, as you pointed out, surrendered a lead. And then, of course, you mentioned those injuries too.
8:28Rich Eisen:Let's talk about Travis Hunter. Where do things stand with him right now? He's in a good spot. He's out on the grass in a limited fashion here, and that'll be the case throughout the remainder of the offseason program. As we get into training camp, he'll be full go. And really looking forward to building off of the momentum that was that game for him individually versus Los Angeles and London. Obviously, being able to breach the 100-yard mark from a receiving standpoint, get in the end zone. At the same time, he turns over to the defensive side of the ball and gets a PBU on a really critical down versus Devontae Adams in coverage.
9:03And so being able to build off of really where we were at that point in time and use that momentum to carry into this next season is an exciting piece for us. Well, then the phrase limited obviously is usually used for a player about physically going to be limited in terms of the number of reps, number of things that he can do based on his health.
9:24Rich Eisen:But when you're talking about a guy who can play both sides of the ball, I'm wondering if limited is also another word that you might use for how you're going to use him, James. I like it. You could have asked that a little bit more directly. All right, let me do it. Yeah. Oh, no, James. I didn't want to be, you know, I was testing your your anti-fragility, you know. So what do you think? Are we done with the two way with him or not? Absolutely not. No, he is. He is set to play both sides of the ball. The piece that I think we can expect to see is actually an uptick in in corner usage. Last year, it was a higher volume, higher percentage of wide receiver usage than it was corner.
10:12I think we can expect to see that corner percentile and count go up as we move forward. That's not to say anything impacts his availability and usage on offense. It just means that that cornerback usage will increase.
10:26Rich Eisen:Why do you choose that side of the ball to increase rather than the other? it's not to say that it won't increase on offensive either but it was lower on defensive side this past season we also have a different defensive cornerback room and the bodies are are different than they were a year ago our roster construction is different than it was a year ago so it's more fitting to slot him in a corner in a different way than it was at this time last year or even as the season progressed what does he want to do he doesn't you know obviously we don't get to chat with him too much. What is he, speaking for him, if you don't mind, what does he want to do?
11:08Yeah, he wants to play both ways, and he wants to do exactly what he set out to do when he first started putting that into action all those years ago, and that's his dream, and we'll look to support that in the best way that we can and be able to do what we feel like is in the best interest of winning football games, and that's putting him in the position to do what he does best. And usually that's with the ball in his hand, and it's defending some of the best receivers. And so it's an exciting element and one that we feel like we're going to reap the rewards of and look forward to bringing it all to life.
11:41Rich Eisen:All right. So to recap here, because I can't get enough of this kid, and I understand that's why you would trade up and give up capital in this year's draft is for somebody that fills two spots on your roster and does it expertly and did it expertly and knows how to do it mentally, physically. But to recap, his injury is not going to cause the Jacksonville Jaguars to say what so many in my business think. Physically, it's an impossibility to do long-term, and you're just going to cut that off right now, and he's going to play one side of the ball. That is not happening. Yeah, you said it. He's not going to be impacted in terms of usage from that vantage point.
12:24He is set to play both sides of the ball, and we look forward to bringing that all the life here in the upcoming seats.
12:29Rich Eisen:Okay, let's do that. What is the plan at running back for you now that Travis Etienne went to New Orleans? What is your plan at that position, James? You know what? I think Liam's always been a strong proponent of a committee approach and being able to leverage multiple runners and varying running styles together. So we're looking forward to how this room has taken shape. Obviously, we brought in Chris Rodriguez, who was with Washington most recently, but was with Liam at Kentucky and has a really good feel for inside runs. And Bashaw Tootin, who we drafted a year ago, really took a good step in his rookie campaign with Travis leading the way.
13:12Look forward to activating Tootin in a more significant manner, while at the same time you round out that room with two guys And LaQuinta Allen, who we drafted in the seventh round a year ago and had a real role on third downs, is an extremely good pass protector. And then DJ Dallas, who joined us towards the back half of the season and offered special teams contributions in a real way and has a veteran presence to him that, you know, everybody appreciates. So looking forward to seeing how it all takes shape here throughout the course of the offseason program.
13:41Rich Eisen:But really, once we start to get the pads popping closer to the fall, I imagine the eight minutes for the first round of the draft didn't really matter. actually was to your benefit because it got you closer to getting on the clock finally yourself without a first round draft choice, James. Yes. You got to appreciate having a little extra time to prep for what lies after it. You know, it's not unfamiliar territory for me or whatever you might label a stillness on day one of the draft without a first round. Coming from the Rams. Yes. I get it. You've had, you've had a lot of practice with picks not coming in the first round.
14:15Rich Eisen:I got it. We've waited longer than pick 56 overall in the past, so it wasn't too bad. So what do you have from the Rams organization on a daily basis? Obviously, you were there from 2016 on to the time you left to go to Jacksonville. How much does that provide a base, and when do you realize, like, in a moment where you're like, okay, I did that with Les, or okay, Sean did that with Liam, you know, himself. How much does that come up in your day-to-day? I think it shows itself in an authentic form. You know, I think with both of us, myself having Les as a mentor, Liam having Sean as a mentor, we both emulate certain pieces to their operation, to their modes and behaviors.
15:03And I think at the same time, we have our own version of a relationship that's different from theirs. And, you know, I think we've installed a lot of the same things because it's what we value and what we found success with as how we move here. Nonetheless, being in a bunker with Liam is something, you know, that I get excited about every single day that I wake up. And the energy that he brings, the seriousness that he brings and the urgency is something that can't be looked past. He does such a great job with our players in bringing their best out. And I think that's what we want out of anybody we invite into this building, is leveling up the people around them, and oftentimes by doing so, being nothing more than who they are innately.
15:50And I think that the more you bring that can do that, the better off we'll be, and we see a very clear path for what profiles fit this place and how we move. but to go back to how how much it looks like Los Angeles and our time there it's it's evolving it's morphing and I think the further we get removed from it the the less similar it'll be just innately but certainly things that we draw back from during our experience there that said
16:16Rich Eisen:I noticed you drafted two tight ends in the same draft I mean like that's right I mean you collect tight ends I was joking with Les last week he's going to start running a 16 personnel offense at one point you know what i mean like they they collected another tight end in the draft and you got two is that something to draw connect dots here james or no i i think there's certainly in that game that we matched up against them it was a a notable piece to how they approached us and how they they were able to attack us defensively um i think beyond just the way that they operated in heavy personnel uh groupings offensively is that there was success across the league with that over the last year and likely to be a trend that teams follow.
16:59At the same time, you know, it was a position that we felt like there was good options at in this year's draft and a space where we wanted to continue to level up the competition internally. And I think we were able to do just that and two guys who offer various skills, right? It's not the exact same player that we're looking at in terms of what they can offer. And so certainly excited about the combination of those guys and how it works within the room itself as it stands.
17:24Rich Eisen:And how good is it that you don't have to go into a draft like I got to draft a quarterback? I mean, that's that's that's pleasant. It has to be right. Seriously. I can't say that I've I've truly ever been in a place where that had to be the case. Luckily enough. Right. And that my first year with with the Rams, it was actually Jared Goff's first year. And so beyond that, I did see parallels to where we were in the transition from the 2016 season in Los Angeles to the 2017 season in Los Angeles, where it transitioned to Sean as head coach and where we were a year ago today with Liam as head coach and transitioning in.
18:06And so I do think that there's some of those experiences that we're able to tap into because there's a lot of connected layers between the two timelines. But nonetheless, look forward to seeing how it all evolves here in the coming season.
18:21Rich Eisen:I would have loved to have been sitting on, you know, in your office or wherever you caught the Les Sean press conference the Thursday night of the draft. I would love to have picked your brain on that moment when you watch that. It really wasn't until the next day that Liam walked in and he was like, oh, man, check this out. Everybody's talking about this thing. I'm like, oh, that's classic. You've got to love that. Classic what, Mr. Grumpy or classic Les in that moment? Probably a little bit of both. I think it's fair to say both existed. But at the same time, it's like, okay, if things go awry tonight, Liam, make sure you keep your composure.
19:02Rich Eisen:That's funny, James. that's funny yeah i mean listen obviously you're you're putting your own stamp on things in your own spot with liam and you had a great first uh season um at that and now comes the next piece and i know you use the word level up quite a bit in this conversation um and i look forward to you building the roster that that allows you to do that even more and uh just wanted to say thanks for coming on here i appreciate it i appreciate you guys making the uh the invite it's great to connect anytime look forward to the next one yeah next one i'll be more direct with my questions like stroud just walk right through the front yeah that right in okay deep end thanks james appreciate it that's james gladstone the manager general manager of the jackson with jaguars right here on the rich eisen show also the sense of humor that we all frequently have here our our mutual friend cara henderson sneed frequently has the same sense of humor uh a new band name versions of adversity that's right you know anything or is that or is that an album of uh what like rem versions of adversity that's good i like an rem album that sounds like an album name yeah don't you think yeah versions of adversity that's what they went through last year uh all right when we come back tom sigour we're bringing him out of our green room let's go right here on the set everybody and the first five minutes of the interview will be promoting all the things in his career that are happening at once.
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22:21It just kind of trickled up from there, you know.
22:24Rich Eisen:Tom Segura here on The Rich Eisen Show. Our radio audience just returned. We saw a clip from Funny AF with Kevin Hart on Netflix last night. We'll talk about that in a bit. And Kevin Hart's roast coming up this weekend as well for the finale of the Netflix is a joke festival that's going down right here. And it's amazing what this festival has suddenly become. The names from the comedy world, it's just as A-list as it gets. It's everyone. Over and over and over again. It is crazy how that is. And, you know, my wife and I, we explained to our kids that Netflix used to be something that you would rent a movie.
23:02Rich Eisen:Yeah. And it would come in the mail in the form of a compact disc. Yeah. And then you would have to mail it back on the honor system. and my children are like what the hell are you talking about you know that when i got my special yeah i so i recorded a special it wasn't like a deal was done it was like on spec as they say and then you send it to people so i sent it to comedy central yeah and they were like no thanks and then it was like showtime hbo and then i got a call and they're like hey somebody wants to buy the special this is 2013 yeah and i was like who and they're like uh netflix and i was like The place you send DVDs to?
23:40And they were like, no, it's growing. I was like, cool. That's really great. Yeah, I'm growing too. So this is great. And it was like not exciting. It wasn't like today where you go like, this is the place to be. Yeah. And it was just like, I don't know, it was like a consolation prize. I was not stoked about it at all. Right. Yeah. And it just happened to just grow from there. But it was like not a fun thing to learn about. When did you meet Bert for the first time? I met him in the green room of the Brea Improv in 2003, I think. And we were watching, it was a Saturday, and college football was on.
24:21And I was looking up, and I was locked in because I'm a big FSU fan. And I was like, oh. He's like, you like FSU? And I go, yeah, it's my squad. He goes, I went there. And I go, no, really? He goes, yeah. I go, oh, what years were you there? He was like, I think like 91 to like 98. I was like, you're there like seven years? He goes, I think so. I was like, you don't even know when you graduated? He was like, not really. I go, well, like, who was there? He goes, I think we won like a championship. I was like, so were you there in 93? He was like, I think so. Yeah. I was like, okay. So he had no knowledge of them whatsoever.
24:56Rich Eisen:None. And now he's like, what, up on the board, firing them up and stuff like that? Oh, yeah. We went to the home opener. Yeah, right. Against Bama. And he did a pregame speech to the stadium where he ended in tears. And they just went absolutely bananas. It was epic. It was really fantastic. And how about him this year for the Netflix starting for the baseball season, the Yankees and the Giants? They had him in a kayak out there in McCovey Cove. And then he was out there, and then they never went back to him. So I'm texting him like, are you okay? Did you get out of the cove? I talked to him later and he goes, I don't know what I'm doing here.
25:39I was like, I didn't even know you cared this much about baseball. He's like, I mean, I like playing it.
25:44Rich Eisen:I know, and he's hanging with Barry Bonds in the green room and whatever. Oh, my God. Dude, you should be there instead of him. Come on now, Tom. What did I say? Every time. Yeah. You know? Every time. Oh, my gosh. So you're running the Two Bears 5K this Saturday at the Rose Bowl. Yes. Now, you did it at Raymond James last year. And we did the Rose Bowl before. year before yes okay so i will explain to folks who may not know um and many of them do already you're this is a legitimate 5k i mean it's a legit the way the origin of this is that we were literally doing a podcast yeah and it was one of those just why like he says so many dumb things and it was one of those things where we're like in the he was like we should do a 5k you know like i was like yeah sure and like as that when that episode came out we started to get hit up and people were so into the idea yeah and i i i can't take credit but so many people have started their fitness journey because of this fight because they all they come to it was the first year was like 2 000 people the next year was 7 000 people this year we're anticipating over 10 ,000 people.
26:55And it's just like this thing where it's, it's becomes community. And so there's like elite runners that come, but there's people who are like, I haven't done anything. Like I look like you guys and I would like to get some, my, my blood pressure down. So they come and they walk the 5k and it becomes this thing where it's like, we all get together. And now it's this big thing. It's like, it's, it's legit.
27:18Rich Eisen:So there are people who are showing up, um, who are professional runners there's oh yeah they want to win the the 5k there's people out there who do the 5k in like 15 minutes and then there's people who are there two and a half hours later yeah yeah it's it's the full spectrum of athletes people at the rose bowl going can we wrap this up we also do a thing where we're like hey as soon as you're done we have drinks for you so it's not like it's not the most health conscious group that goes if i told you when you started this thing out that you you and this pod and this would be an inspiration for people to get in shape you know what would have been your reaction to that man that would have been something else i would be like is i i have diarrhea every day like i don't think health is gonna be aligned with me yeah oh my god um bad thoughts returns uh may 24th yes and this is uh season two season two which i'm so thankful for I feel like, you know, season one, you're like figuring out what a show is.
28:19Season two, it's like we know what it is and now we're so dialed in. I think it's a much better season. I'm so excited. We really, you know, if you don't know, the show is not for everyone.
28:32Rich Eisen:You mean the photograph of you on a bed in a bathrobe? It doesn't indicate that right now? This doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of how far we push it. But I love that Netflix, I've never, I've been in a bunch of development things. I've done shows. I did a movie. I've never had a relationship where we go, we want to do this. And they're like, yeah, okay. Like they give us no notes. They're basically like, don't say the N word. That's basically their notes. That's it. Not that that would be your default anyway. No, no. But that is the only note for the season. They're like, dial it back on racial slurs and you can do what you want.
29:11And you're like, cool. Cool.
29:14Rich Eisen:Where did you come up with the idea? Is there a Genesis, a moment or something like that? Yeah. The crazy thing was I was on tour a couple of years ago and I have a pay per view platform on my YMH studios for like, if we want to do a special event. And my idea was I had never done a scripted thing where like I wrote it, shot it and I, and tried to go direct to the audience. Right. So the idea was I wrote these like essentially short films and we shot them. And when we edited it together, we realized we had like a 35 minute like episode. So I was going to put it on that platform. Yes. But I showed it to my agents and they were like, you have to shop this.
29:50We showed it first to Netflix because of our relationship and they bought it. And so that was the whole thing was like me just trying to make short films and seeing if I could deliver it to an audience.
30:01Rich Eisen:And now here it is. And now we're in season two. Yeah. Pretty crazy. That's great. Where did the idea of opening a bakery hit you? Being fat and loving food is kind of like how it started. I've lost weight, but I can tell how much of you lost. I mean, I guess from the heaviest I ever weighed, probably like 70 pounds. But I mean, that's like a lot of years, basically. But I feel like even if I had like 5 % body fat, I'd be like, yeah, but I'm still fat in my soul. That's right. Yeah. I mean, I just I love food. These guys, when I lived here in L.A., one day I basically was just telling someone where I lived, and the guy was like, oh, best croissants in L.A.
30:42And I love pastries and croissants. I went to this place. I had one, and I was like, these are legit the best, right? Because there's nothing worse than when you go, I'm going to have a croissant, and it's like a dry, you're like, I wasted it. Yeah. It's terrible. I just maintained a relationship with this guy. and one day then he lived uh he had his business was in the palisades yeah so after the fires we were just talking and i was like well you know if you ever would consider coming to austin where i live now right i would do something with you and he was like i'll do it and that was like i was like really and then i just had to really do it so we we went from everything from like figuring out this chichobomba means it's what you call a little fat ass kid in italy so that literally is what you call a little fat kid.
31:27Rich Eisen:So somebody in Italian walking down past your bakery, like a little chuckle. Oh, little fatte ass here. Yeah, that's exactly what they think. And we have pastries, pasta, pizza, everything homemade, and it's been selling out every day, and it's like Giamba and Marlo, that's the couple, they are, they're really the story. They're the ones who make it, but I'm the guy who's talking about it and trying to tell people to try it out because it's it really is amazing are we franchising it or what i don't know we have three locations in austin right now so okay we have a little one a fairground one it's like a little food hall right we have a lobby of the scarborough building but we just opened our flagship on south lamar and it's been it's been popping booming yeah what about out open open one up out here hey man if you know somebody i don't know i mean i i mean you never know you never you never know what people would want i know i would i would love to it sounds amazing it's like a pizza pasta pastry the triple p dude you know out here in los angeles good and good for you yeah i mean if you're certainly if you're carbo loading for a 5k at the rose bowl the thing i do is like if i go when i do my three mile run i realize i got 12 000 calories to go now you know like i've bought some room so you got to replenish you're running a three are you running three miles a day or something like this no every time i get ready for this though yes i start to i the funny thing is i'll tell people who are legit runners and they'll be like three miles and i'm like yeah and they're like is that it and i go yeah and they go that's like my warm-up and i go well good for you okay it's not my warm-up it's my marathon that's exactly yeah three miles feels like a lifetime yeah you're licking the pavement i'm hyperventilating yeah with you on that front uh and apparently last night again on funny af with Kevin Hart.
33:16Rich Eisen:Yes. You and Nikki, and you were the judges, right? The guest judges? Yeah, we were the guest judges, yes. And you chose a guy who worked the door at the comedy store. We actually did not choose. You did not? The audience voted. Okay. So Netflix and whatever is happening in technology now allows for people can vote with their remotes. And it was like the first time they've done this. So we were there like basically watching their sets, commenting on it. Okay. But the audience voted for Ron. He won the competition. Yes. But I'll tell you this. I have to tell you. The four finalists, which were Ron, Osama, Caitlin, and Reg, I was not familiar with everyone's stand-up.
33:57Yes. The three of us on the cast were blown away. We were like, these guys are so good. I felt inspired. I went into the comedy store right after and did a set. Did you really? Yeah, because whenever you see good stand-up, it makes you want to do stand-up. You know what I mean? I'm not watching the Masters. I want to play golf.
34:15Rich Eisen:but I'm not as good as those guys. But good art makes you want to do it. If you're a singer and you watch somebody sing and you're like, oh my, it makes you want to do it. So I was so blown away by how talented these guys were, how amazing their sets were. They were incredible that I went and did stand-up right away. It was that good. Is there a study like you call up and you say, I'm coming? Yeah. And they make room for Tom Secour. Well, they did last night. They certainly did. so that's no kidding yeah they were incredible though man and ron's gonna be a guest at the roast on sunday and ron got an hour special from that last night that's unbelievable that's unbelievable it's a game made the game show at least not a half an hour he was working at an ice cream shop unbelievable yeah that is so cool are you are you part of the roast on sunday no i'm gonna go check it out but um i'm not i'm not on it but um i would i know it's gonna be amazing like i think shane's hosting yeah they have a crazy day it's it's gonna be it's gonna to be hilarious what was you got a good story from the brady roast i know you were part of it with bird oh my god i was there uh in the audience yeah one of the funniest roasts i've ever seen and i know what it means to our buddy jeff ross to to have the roast format succeed and still live yes he lives he is the champion of roast he is the roast master general and whatever rank you want to give him he's unbelievable and so to get kevin for kevin to say yes and keep this thing going I think it's massive it's big it's great for for roast it's great for Netflix I think it's great for the comedy format I think it's right I think it's going to be huge again people love it like and should be yeah I mean the Brady thing was like unreal to see the impact of it I mean I don't I forget they told us the time I probably not allowed to say but the numbers were outrageous on this you know yeah no they were they were outrageous and it was live and it was like it It was a real change.
36:12Like, it made, I think people realize that when you go live on that platform, it does something different than just releasing something. Yes.
36:20Rich Eisen:Yeah. And they didn't go on, was it the first time Netflix had gone live? I know they did, I think it was a boxing was like two weeks before or something like that. I forget where Rock's, Chris Rock did a special live. Right. Okay. It did monster numbers for them too. Right. And you kind of go like, yeah, but specials can just drop. but there's something about being like no tune in now yes sir that draws people to it and it worked it definitely worked well who'd you meet that night that you're that you knew bert might not have known but you knew i mean yeah bert didn't know anybody um who would i meet uh well randy moss which was come on right yeah that was that's it that was the the coolest um we hung out yeah we're hanging out in like a room with like gronk and edelman and randy moss is walking around we're like what are we doing here you know i mean like what are we doing here and we're talking to them about like games and and i and then i i actually from that night one of one of my friends is actually a former player john feliciano sure yeah yeah you're just facetiming not well endowed big heart good guy right and when he came to austin i'm i've befriended uh joe burrow because i was Cincy and you know I think he plays there so yes he did so he came to Austin too and they're like hey you want to come to to dinner I was like yeah and then we we meet up at this place with uh those guys and Nick Bosa by the way I walk into the restaurant yeah behind Nick and so I get a POV of what it's like to be him yes sir people were looking up like they were seeing an AI human walk into the room he's a large man large but like his hair was flowing and i i was watching people who were like eating and then they were like i was like no one's ever looked at me like that crazy right well it's also ohio where he went to college and so he's a folk he's a folk hero oh yeah so we we walk in and we sit down and then we have we're in this room having dinner and then they start talking about injuries so like joe's like yeah my neck you know i got this disc that shifted in my neck and then you know nick is like yeah my knee kind of blew out on this thing john's like i broke these three ribs and then i'm just like in the conversation so i go oh yeah i i hurt my tailbone and i could just i knew i knew as i said it i was like i deserve whatever is coming to me these guys are talking about nfl injuries and i just felt it got real quiet and And then Nick was like, did you get that falling down the stairs?
38:59And I was like, no, man, it was punk coverage in high school. And he was like, punk coverage. I was like, yeah. I was like, it was Florida. It was real football. It was a real deal. And then they just lit me up for like 30 minutes of like, basically, you don't get to talk about that. I was like, yeah, whatever you want to say is true. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm here. So you got heckled. I got heckled and I just, I didn't even, I was just like, what, what, okay, what about you? And then, you know what Nick, he was like, you know what I'm really into right now? I go, what? He goes, books. I was like, yeah, books are cool.
39:32Is this your first time discovering books? And he was like, well, yeah, I've been playing football so much that I never really read books. And he's like, but they're great. I was like, yeah, I'll give you a whole list of them. They're amazing.
39:47Rich Eisen:Oh my God. Oh man. And so season two of Bad Thoughts returns on May 24th. If you are in the area, go to the Rose Bowl on Saturday. I guess bring your running shoes and your drinking shoes. Dude, it really is the most fun because it's not this is not like an intense thing. You can walk. You can run, walk. You can jog. You can do whatever you want. It's a full party afterwards. We're in the Rose Bowl. Oh, my God. They give us the entire field. There's recovery stations. There's ice. Yeah. Yeah, there's ice baths, there's drinks, there's food, there's music, there's a live podcast. It's thousands of people, and it is a full party.
40:28It's like a fun afternoon. It's totally worth going to. You will be welcomed and have fun if you go.
40:35Rich Eisen:And then Netflix is a Joke Fest presents it as well. Yes. Which ends on Sunday night with the roast of Kevin Hart on Netflix. And then your bakery, stop by Chicho Bomba. Please come to Chicho Bomba, get a pastry, get a coffee, pizza, a homemade focaccia sandwich, burrata, and prosciutto. Listen to you. I mean, come on. Get pasta. It's incredible. Look at you. That's in Austin. And, Tom, I really appreciate you coming by. Man, thank you for having me. Total blast. Total blast. It's been too long. At Segura Tom on Instagram to follow the fun. That's Tom Segura right here on The Rich Eisen Show. We'll wrap up this show in a moment.
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43:49Rich Eisen:Absolutely. Now, listen, sir, I could see your T-shirt that you're wearing. Yeah. When you told me the name of the film that you were in with the cast and the concept of it, the comedy, and I'm like, I am all in. This sounds amazing. I'm like, what's it called? And you said the name of it that you now, if I'm not mistaken, mistaken when you pronounced it uh on this show shetheeds right yeah shetheeds because when it's spelled out it's a total different word yeah and i'm like how are you gonna be in a movie you're like that's the name of the movie and i'm like how are they gonna market it now you're coming in the you can put about it's called idiots okay great now now i you know it's you're branded it i it's it's the same idea same idea a lot more safe for work to promote yeah thank goodness you know it It would have been some slip-ups, let me tell you.
44:37Rich Eisen:You can't go on shows like this or late-night shows, like podcasts you could do. 100%. But Idiots. Yeah. And that's coming out later on this summer. August 28th, man. August 28th, get another one. Come on, man. There it is, Idiots. Just make sure y 'all remember. We got the cast right here. Yeah, man. Dave Franco was outstanding. What a monster. Kiernan Shipka is in it, huh? Sweetheart. Peter Dinklage. Yeah, legend. Dude, and you're in it. Yep. Fantastic. Bran Stark is a snake. Always. Look at you mixing it up. No king of mine. Awesome. No king. I love it. Idiots in theaters near you, and we'll talk about it.
45:15Rich Eisen:100%. So what happened last night? I mean, OKC does what OKC does. Which is? They were faster. You're not allowed to touch them, but they can touch you. And, yeah, the dirtiest team in the league. Oh. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Everybody gets hurt going against them. Oh, so it's like, come on. Well, I mean, Vanderbilt getting hurt. That was the backboard. That wasn't anything that they did. Yeah. But I mean, you know, what's his name? What's his name from Philadelphia? TJ, my man that be dancing on TikTok, him taking out Luke's legs. Like, come on now, taking out Canard's legs and no, it's not a flagrant.
45:55Rich Eisen:It's fine. Get that home cooking. And I can't stand them the most because it's just the Frankenstein monster of the Clippers. and their inability to really run an organization. The Clippers made this OKC team. So, like, they got to eradicate them from the league. Well, they had the draft capital from that, along with SGA. From the Clippers. Who, if I'm not mistaken, Jerry West was like, don't trade. Yeah. Right? You know, competent basketball over there. And it's still going. But Sam Presti's turned these picks into human beings. 100%. But it's aid from the Clippers. and they're aiding them even more because now they got a lottery pick because the Clippers didn't make the playoffs.
46:38Rich Eisen:So thanks Walmer. Thank you so much for this monster you have. But the Lakers should be able to overcome it. No, listen, in all honesty Lakers in seven. Okay. Seven what? Games. Are you in the playoffs? Don't talk to me. Seven games. I will never be on any publication and disrespect my Lakers. Austin Reeves can't go three for 16. He absolutely can. I agree. He should play better. He solved it. Oh, yeah. And the flopping? Oh, my God. They have perfected the art of manipulating contact on offense and then making the contact on defense look, oh, it's an accident. It's just basketball. Bro, you cut my legs from under me and it's not a flagrant.
47:26Rich Eisen:You have so much time. and you see other teams complain about it. I'm seeing it firsthand because it's the playoffs. Everything is magnified, but, you know, we know what it is, what they want to do with it. O'Shea Jackson Jr., one of the stars of Idiots, as it is now known, on August 28th in the theater near you and in a podcast near you, no contest wrestling with T.J. Jefferson. The great T.J. Jefferson. That's about to be recorded. We'll wrap up this show on TV in a moment. For everyone else, we'll chat Friday. The Ridge Isis Show Podcast. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile, with a message for everyone paying big wireless way too much.
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Jaguars GM James Gladstone tells Rich that Travis Hunter’s days playing both WR and CB are “absolutely not” over, discusses Jacksonville’s major leap last season, the Jags’ running back plans after the departure of Travis Etienne, breaks down his 2026 NFL Draft class, and more. Comedian Tom Segura joins Rich in-studio where he promotes his ‘Funny AF with Kevin Hart’ and ‘Bad Thoughts’ Netflix shows, reveals how he became fast friends with Bert Kriescher, why he opened his own bakery, and reveals how Joe Burrow reacted that time he tried to compare injuries with the Cincinnati Bengals QB. ‘No-Contest Wrestling’ co-host O’Shea Jackson Jr. drops by the studio to talk Lakers and more.
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