Hour 3: Jerry Jones’ Super Bowl Dreams, plus Abbott Elementary’s William Stanford Davis In-Studio

21:10Rich Eisen:Do you get a lot of that, too? I do. I get that. I get that. Potato pie. You know, but I get more about Mr. Johnson than anything. Well, that's pretty cool. And again, congratulations on that. We were chatting in our green room. You're from St. Louis, Missouri. I am. Okay. Yeah. So your sports memories are what? Oh, my first baseball game to see the Cardinals, I went and Stan Musil, we had bleacher seats and Stan Musil was center field. That tells you how old I am. And I was just mesmerized. I was a Cardinal fan, but I'd always seen it on black and white television. Right. and going to uh sportsman's park which was on grand avenue we could almost walk there from my house right i was just uh in awe and i wanted to go to every game after that and then when they built the new stadium downtown uh that was during the bob gibson era oh my gosh i try to because my my 14 year old son is baseball crazy right um you know in the same way that my 17 year old son is Abbott Elementary crazy right um and so uh I try to explain to him because he's he's into this sort of stuff he also plays video games where where the old school guys are you know are are great and on occasion he'll just say stuff like somebody of Bob Gibson's nature like was he any good and I'm like and the look that I I give him is the look that you just gave me over telling that story and about how essentially, I'm like, you see how tall the mound is?

22:38Rich Eisen:They had to lower it because of people like Bob Gibson was so unhittable. Unhittable. Yeah, Bob Gibson. Nasty, too. Right? You ever hear Willie Mays talk about it? Sure, of course. Yeah, but I would go, we would go, back then, the Dodgers would come to St. Louis two times here, two times there, so we'd see them four times a year. I saw Don Drysdale pitch against Bob Gibson. I saw Juan Marichal pitch against Bob Gibson. Like you had a ticket and you would watch him or you'd just sit at home on TV. You saw these games? My uncle would take me, especially when the Giants or the Dodgers came to St.

23:17Louis. That was like, oh, yeah, we're going, or Milwaukee. Sure, because of Hank Aaron. Yeah, the first game I went to, I told you, I saw Stan Musial. That was to see Milwaukee, the Milwaukee Braves.

23:27Rich Eisen:So you're going to a game and that's Stan Musial, and then when he goes into the dugout, how comes Hank Aaron? Like that happened? Like he's in the outfield? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Wow. That is pretty amazing. That is great. Yeah, yeah. That was amazing. That was the very first baseball game I ever went to. Oh, my gosh. Fantastic. Yeah. All right. And so are you still interested in the Cardinals? Oh, my God. You know, once it's in your blood, it's in your blood. It's a religion in St. Louis. The Cardinals are a religion, especially now that they don't have a football team or anything. Right. They have XL.

24:01Yeah. Yeah, right. But yeah, it's, you know, I'll go see them when they play the Dodgers. I'm a Dodgers fan when they're not playing the Cardinals, but the Cardinals are in my blood. And, you know, especially back when the Bush family owned it, they made sure they had top fight pitching and everything. I don't know what's going on with them now, but I still love them.

24:22Rich Eisen:You must have watched the World Series this year then, right? Yes. That was an unbelievable, it was really one of the best World Series ever. Yes. And I understand I'm talking to somebody who said, I once saw Stan Musial play with Hank Aaron in the same game, you know, or against. But this World Series, this past World Series was phenomenal. It was one of the best I've ever seen. Yeah. Did you go to any of the games or anything? We went to the playoff game. Okay. The one where Otani pitched, no, where he hit the three out of the park, actually. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it was my wife's first game she'd ever gone to, and now she's hooked.

25:00she strung out she strung out on baseball so your wife had never been to a baseball never been

25:07Rich Eisen:she's from she's from london okay so sure and um and you take her to the playoff game where otani goes yard just goes crazy was that that was against the padres right yeah against that was it was who was that against the brewers against milwaukee yeah yeah and again this is great. I feel fortunate to be able to ask you this question. Game four against Milwaukee. Otani, the sound of the ball off his back. Is it something that you've heard before? Nothing. I've heard shotguns blast. I've heard shotgun blast and nothing. When it hits a catcher's mitt, people would... Oh, you're talking about pitching.

25:49Rich Eisen:I'm just talking about the ball off his back. That's a whole different thing, man. You know, I've never, we shot our show in Philadelphia when Schwarber hit four out of the park. And it didn't sound like what Otani's ball hitting the bat sounded like. Right. Yeah. Incredible. Was that when you did the Always Sunny crossover? No, we did Always Sunny crossover here in Los Angeles. Okay, you did that in Los Angeles. Yeah, in L.A. But so it was a different shooting in Philadelphia. Yeah, we did. We went to Philadelphia to shoot at the Philly Stadium. Okay. We shot the whole episode there. and Schwarber was our guest star, but the night that he was our, when he was supposed to be, nobody knew he was going to hit four home runs out of the park, you know?

26:31So that was just another feather in Abbott Elementary's hat.

26:35Rich Eisen:Are you taking credit for the Schwarber four-run home run game? Of course I am, of course I am. Absolutely. Mr. Williams, how about you? You know, I'm at that game, and Schwarber hits four. Then I'm at the Dodgers game, and Otani hits three. All of them went yard. I'm like, yeah, that's because... You should change your middle name to Dinger. William Stanford Davis here on the Rich Eisen show. So, man, I can go in so many different directions with you here. Yes, sir. Quick question. Mr. William, how would you, having seen all these legendary players, how would you compare Ohtani to some of the players that growing up were always legends?

27:12Good question. Great question. Whoa, man. I've seen some of the great pictures. I've seen Juan Marichal pitch. I've seen, ooh, once again, I'm telling you my age. It's all good. But I've never seen anything like this man. I've never seen anything like him. You know, like I said, pitching or hitting.

27:33Rich Eisen:It's unlike anything I've ever seen. Obviously, you know, you keep talking about your age. You didn't see Babe Ruth play. Neither did I. Damn near. Right. Right, but that back then, obviously, you know, the Bambino wasn't pitching against a lot of the guys that we're seeing today that Otani is trying to – I mean, that World Baseball Classic moment where Otani struck out Mike Trout to end that game, this is what I'm talking about, right? And Otani is then grabbing a bat against guys who were throwing smoke about 98. 100 miles an hour and he also has like six pitches right too it's not like he's just a two-pitch pitcher yeah he's unbelievable and he by the way he's also insanely fast yes he is you know to be what is he seven feet you know he feels that way i feel like we are describing like paul bunyan no you're right yeah yeah for sure yeah uh and he does this uh and i'm sure everyone's seen it on on on television if they haven't seen it at the dodgers he he has this thing that he does when he comes up to the plate where he measures it.

28:45Rich Eisen:Yes. And then he steps back. And, man, when that bat hits the ball, it's incredible. Yeah. And then he respects the opposing manager by bowing to him. Yeah. And then clowns his pitcher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. More often than not. Before I let you go, I always speak to people here when they come on this show when they are a curb your enthusiasm, I guess, alum. Yes. In a way. Yes. Your scene with Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm about the Spite store, right? Yeah. Where he was trying to get information on Mocha Joe. Yeah. Mocha Joe. That was all improv. OK. Everything everything they do, they give you the premise and then you go for it.

29:30And you can't be afraid to deal with him because he's going to bring smoke. Like bring you some smoke, you know, so you better hit the ball. You know, it was I had a lot of fun. He was very encouraging. But the way he is on the show, that's who he is. That's who he is.

29:50Rich Eisen:You wanted some information. So what did you ad lib? Do you remember what you did? Everything was ad lib. You know, he started talking about Mocha Joe. I can't say any of the words I said on his show about Mocha Joe. But and I would see him sometimes almost cracked. You almost got him? I tried my best to, but no, he's such a pro. And it was so much fun. And the audition was even more fun because I got him in the audition because he didn't expect me to say the things that I said. And we just had fun. We had a lot of fun. He said, let's have some fun. They gave us a premise, no dialogue, no script or anything, and we just went for it.

30:33Rich Eisen:The Spite Story. Yeah. That's one of my favorite episodes is Mocha Joe and the Spite Store and having you. I think it's called Artificial Fruit, right? That's right. That's where the kid bit into the artificial fruit on the table. That's right. Oh, my gosh. Abbott Elementary, Wednesdays, 8.30 p.m. Eastern on ABC. Congratulations on everything going on with this Red Hot Show. May it run forever, sir. Thank you, sir. May it run forever. Thank you. Good to see you here. William Stanford Davis right here on The Rich Eisen Show. So don't go anywhere. We're going to wrap up this program with your phone calls and so much more here on Disney+.

31:08Rich Eisen:And everybody should check out Abbott Elementary on Hulu as well.

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33:33Rich Eisen:I do. I do. There you go. Look at that. Dwarfs all the other helmets. See what we need? We need to get a football player last name of Pella in here. Must exist somewhere in America. They can sign it? We should make that the new autograph helmet. We could. We just missed out on one. Anybody whose name is associated with a window or a door, Or if they're on a yellow team? A portal? A portal? Right? I mean, technically, Pella's got something for your portal. That's true. I mean, again, I don't want to overstep. The window is always open. The window is always open. Oh, yeah. Hey, isn't that what Joe Burrow said?

34:08Rich Eisen:He is the window. He is the window. The ceiling is the floor. We're just spitballing. That's what happens when you partner up with us. We spitball. The door is closed on these teams. Ladies and gentlemen. but the doors open on our phone lines. How does that sound? 844-204-RICH. Number to dial Jimmy's been hanging on forever. Jimmy in San Antonio. What's up, Jimmy? How are you, brother? Que paso? Hey, I wanted to say Happy New Year to Susie and you guys. Thank you. He's not here. Well, speaking of curb, today's the day. That you got curb? No, last day. Last day of being able to say Happy New Year.

34:48Rich Eisen:One week. I thought it was yesterday. January 7th is technically, but I'm going to give it just a week. You're a giving man. I am a very good man. Plus or minus a day. Yeah, no, you're not that giving when it comes to elevator doors. So slow the roll. He's got you there. Jimmy, last thing I want to do is hold the door for somebody who comes in and hits a floor in front of mine. Like, why would I do that? I'm sorry it might be your new BFF head coach from the Wolverines and I bet you would hold the door for him. Oh I'll hold the door for Kyle Whittingham anytime. He would throw his body in front of that door that's right.

35:25Rich Eisen:How dare anybody hit the door close button I have two questions before I get to Spurs stuff guys number one did Steven Ross give Mike McDaniels an orange before their meeting and number two doesn't Cignetti sound like he's an undercover detective in the south side of Chicago at precinct three. Well, I mean, precinct three in Pittsburgh, he's as Pittsburgh as they come. He sounds just like everybody from Pittsburgh, because guess what? He is. And you want to be right. I know. By the way, Spurs stuff, out of every freakish thing that Victor Wimbanyama does, the moment, I guess, that the Spurs are warming up and three basketballs get stuck in the net at the same time, and he dislodges the log jam of basketballs by kicking his toe up in the air to kick the balls nine feet above him or nine feet above the ground did you guys see that video yes i did i had to show it to tj i think it's ai to be honest i don't think so no it happened no it happened yeah it's unreal i i couldn't i couldn't kick on the light switch in my house and they're like four feet above my knee.

36:42There's no way.

36:44Rich Eisen:He's unbelievable, man. Okay, Brockman, I got something for you. I think you're going to dig this. Future bettors do not bet anything on Victor Wimbanyanma winning MVP or Defensive Player of the Year until after he signs his second contract. The Spurs are going to save a lot of money because the kid is still growing. He's injured often and he's not going to qualify for any of the major awards, and so he won't get the ultimate max, super max. He'll save the Spurs money by just getting a great max, and then we can re-sign Steph Castle, Dylan Harper, and keep D. Fox, and we're going a four-head. There you go.

37:28Rich Eisen:So what's more likely, the Spurs win four in a row or the Cowboys win four in a row? Oh, Spurs. Just kind of get ready. By four. Thanks for the call, Jimmy. Happy New Year to you, too. Jimmy in San Antonio, one of our long-time – The Purs have the fourth best odds right now for the title. I don't mean to bring up old stuff, but had Jimmy not gotten fired by Jerry, then we would have won four in a row.

37:53Rich Eisen:Facts. Okay. And what did Mike Tomlin say? If my aunt had parts or something? Yeah. If my aunt had male parts, she'd be my uncle. Right. What he said. Never say never, but never. I'm just telling you. He caught that reference when I started the interview that way yesterday, right? but I'm excited to have him and plus I've got this great story I wanted to tell him about my aunt and uncle. Any good quotes? I think he caught that. Mike Tomlin makes me laugh. Dude. He's gonna be great on TV next year. Brockman. I don't. Brockman. By the way he what would he be like where would you put him? You could give Mike Tomlin a TV job wave your wand and he accepts it what would you put him?

38:35Rich Eisen:studio or booth oh he'd be so good in a booth but i think he'd be studio yeah why yeah he's a studio guy i want him breaking down every game and every scenario and every critical moment not just not just falcons panthers you know what i mean well by the way the fact that you would slander the nfc south that way i'm not i'm just picking a random game well you pick but you an a crew I understand that. You know what I mean? But how can you go home again now? She knows. Okay. I don't know. It's honestly the same reason why I kind of wish Tom Brady was in studio. I want him breaking down everything.

39:16Rich Eisen:But he's so good at breaking things down in person, you know, and he's not intrusive about it, and he's not arrogant about it. You know what I mean? I feel for Burkhart. Why? Because the two shot, he'll never win it. That's number one. I don't think that that's a little baby KK. No, no, no. But can we come up with some, because when there's the two shot, do you see that they chiron them both? What do you want to have happen? Well, it says Kevin Burkhart, NFL on Fox, Tom Brady, seven times Super Bowl champion. And it's just like, all right. Does KB have any Emmys? I think he does. You want to put that in there?

40:06Rich Eisen:Okay. Let's catch him up here, man. Okay. Let's give him something. Or we even the playing field. Tom Brady, NFL on Fox. We all know how many he's won. Super Bowl champion. Do you think there's anybody that tunes in and goes, oh. That's Tom Brady. That's Tom Brady, seven-time Super Bowl champion. Yeah, because someone's watching for the first time. I'm trying to help Kevin out here. you really think he cares about the two shot i would i did you remember that but of course you did you caught you you you were the producer and editor of the of the rich eyes and podcast that might have been my first ever uh really podcast tv episode yeah because i i went to mc the patriots kickoff dinner where belichick hardly said a word to me but the only thing he said to me was get me get us out of here on time yeah that was 2011 right and so i'd been on the air only like eight years i didn't really have any relationship with belichick now like you know then like i do now not like we're bffs but i mean when you spend three days doing the nfl 100 together at nfl films you know that's something you can rely on um but yeah my my My question when I said, sure, I'll do it, was can I bring my nephews?

41:27Rich Eisen:And all of which they were, not only were the Patriots gracious to let them run, they ran around on the field beforehand, but met Randy Moss, met everybody. And Brady couldn't have been more gracious. As I said, can I get Tom Brady for a half an hour for my podcast special beforehand to lead off the kickoff? Right. And they were like, let's look. And the answer came back, yeah, he'll do it. and he came early and I dressed in my finest suit and and even put on a sweater underneath the suit so I knew because when I sit down my shirt can wrinkle because again nothing fits and nothing fits when it comes to um sitting next to Tom Brady and I knew I would look like I'd be wearing a burlap sack next to him and i did look that way so yeah i noticed these things i'm the one who also notices on these on these shots you know who's got shoulder who's holding the football who's in the front who's in the back because these these pr um or i guess the media pr groups in all these networks put together these photoshops to promote the upcoming broadcast and i always notice who's in the front and who's in the back you know that but Burkhardt is just like NFL on Fox and Tom Brady, seven times Superbowl champ.

42:50Rich Eisen:I think they should just say NFL on Fox for Tom Brady. We know we get it. Like you don't Kyron, the president of the United States in an interview, just, you know who that person is. Well, this one probably would nice. Oh, 1000%. Seriously. Like let's, let's, every day is going to be someone watching them for the first time, right? So really, that's true. William's wife never went to a baseball game. Got it. So has no idea. Tom. Oh, so, But now I'm going to listen to what Tom Brady has to say because I've never heard of him before. Now I know he's got seven Super Bowls. That's how he knows what he's talking about.

43:20Rich Eisen:Or at least put up Kevin's Emmys. I think he's won some. He won as part of Fox Baseball Studios. Oh, in the same way Del Tufo gets his Emmys. Oh, no, no, no. Group project. It's kind of. Oh, and you're the only one working a fader. No, but there's only like two of me on a show. It's still more than one. Let me ask you this question. when Fox won all those Emmys. Did you go up there or did Jerry go up there? Who went up there? Did Jerry Steinberg go up there or did you go up there? No, Jerry wouldn't go. The audio people do and the technical people do. So when I've won the audio... I've seen Jerry go up on the stage quite a bit.

43:55That's the audio crew. We get him. But I'm saying, yes, you're right. I get you, Rich. But it's still eight. I don't...

44:01Rich Eisen:By the way, I don't denigrate your value or your worth. I'm not insulting you at all. Not even a little bit. I do. I'll insult you. you'll get a shine box. By the way, if you guys win one, I'll never hear the end of it from you. I'm trying to help Burkhardt here. How am I the bad guy? If we win, that means you also win. Exactly. I can't wait. It'll happen. I hope it does. I'm going to hear it. I'm going to act like the Cowboys won the Super Bowl if that happens. You realize we're all on the same side here. Of course we are. I love you guys. You think I hate? No, I'm kidding. There's time. I kind of wonder.

44:36Why do they do this? Sometimes you post things.

44:38Rich Eisen:Tim in Phoenix, Arizona will take your phone call. What's up, Tim? Hey, man. Scadaboo to you. Scadaboo season. Okay. And Scadaboo to you as well. So I guess you're more Tempe than Tucson, right? Obviously. I am. They're in Phoenix. I am. Makes sense. Got it. But what I'd like to say, Rich, is first of all, Chris is always right when it comes to firings. Oh, my God. This was me his cousin. Do not feed the animals, Tim. Oh, my God. What are you doing, Tim? He knows Tim, Rich. Don't worry about that. As a kid growing up in Indianapolis in 1974 and Arlington Youth Football, I played for the Colts, and I became a lifelong Colt fan.

45:22Rich Eisen:Okay. We built the dome and all that, and the Colts came to town and went to two Super Bowls. It was so great. I was on Letterman. Yes. You know, it's so good. Beth Henderson interviewed me. We had huge parties. Uh-oh. When are we taking a turn, Tim? When does this take a turn? What happened? Well, actually, it did. I did the win-loss game with Susie back before the season, and I predicted exactly what was going to happen. Down to the Achilles? I'm sorry? Down to the Achilles? Let me see here. I don't know if I was exactly right. I think Susie wrote it down. I was down to the right numbers, but the seven games.

46:02Anyway.

46:05Rich Eisen:I'd like to, if TJ will allow me to, I would like to use his release of Fandom. Oh, no. After 52 years from the Colts. As long as Ballard's there, I'm out. And a lot of people feel like this. Whoa. All right, Tim. Once Rich Eisen Consulting makes up the paperwork, you know, We're going to end up having to charge you the 40 cents if you don't sign it. I'll pay the 40 cents, sir. Okay. Do you really want us to make this up and send it to you, Tim? For real? I really do. I really do. Tim, stay on hold. Here comes Adam. Be nice to him. He's nervous about his bears. All right. There goes Tim in Phoenix.

46:49Rich Eisen:Wow. Dang. We're here for you. 52 years. We're here for you. That's a long time. We're here for fans. Wow. I don't know. I know what he feels. Hey, man. And listen, the Colts went from 7-1 to 8-9. I understand. This is a bad taste. This is a bad taste. But they lost the quarterback. Dude. Had to bring a retired guy off. I know, because the kid that they drafted snapped a rubber, like a band went in his eye and knocked him out for the year. It's just a weird set of circumstances. Really weird. And they were playing so well. I know. For sure. Hey, great show, everybody. Great show. Awesome. Great show.

47:30Rich Eisen:Let's do it again. Ashton Kutcher is going to be our guest first up on our ESPN Friday show. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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