Hour 3: Jets/Cowboys Blockbuster Quinnen Williams Trade, plus ‘Overreaction Tuesday’

23:15Rich Eisen:So you just got to hope that they got the right quarterback. I mean, the right coach and general manager to make the decision. And if not find another team, because you're sick and tired of being born into it at 26 years later, Luke, that simple. Well, that's the problem is that it's like, I've been born into it. My parents were born and raised on Long Island, New York. It's really hard for me to just get rid of that. And I'm not counseling you to do it. It's just like you have no other choice but to hope again. And it sucks that it's just another regeneration that they're asking their fan base to trust in the process.

23:57Rich Eisen:My only thing I have left for you is, Luke, do you need a hug right now? Do you need a hug? Oh, I mean, honestly, Rich, I need a lot more than a hug. How about something stronger? I mean, okay. All I can give you is one of the famous Rich Eisen show bro hugs where right now I'm extending my arms. I reach out. We embrace. I tap you on the back, and then I just move away and just say, be well. Hang in there, Luke. Did that feel better? That'll do. Okay. Luke and Gunsville. We just like leaving distressed Jets fans in better positions than we found. They're still looking for Derwin James across the way.

24:37Mike, do you want to just hit the drop of Overreaction Monday and then go across the street to see if Derwin will join? You hang a right and a left, and you're right there. I drive past every morning. All right, hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction. Mondays. Monday. On a Tuesday. All right, Chris. Wow. Are you updating any of your... I haven't. I feel like I should throw in a Cowboys and a Jets one right now. Okay. Let's go to last night first. What happened in Dallas. Kyler Murray started his last game for the Arizona Cardinals. I think it's still an overreaction.

25:15But because you can't even sit here and say, even if they decide to say, let's see what we continue to get with Jacoby Brissett, he's still one snap away from getting back in there. And then all of a sudden... look i use and i'm sure this is not an analogy cardinals fans or kyler murray wants to hear and it might sound disrespectful but it does involve another first overall drafted quarterback whose size is in question but you remember when bryce young got benched last year we're all like he should ask to get out of there they don't have his best interest in mind it's never going to work out there he's five and four right now a year later after getting back in there because somebody

25:53Rich Eisen:got injured so i can't sit here and say he started his last game with the cardinals but the cardinals do have to sit down and say what is best for us who does really give us the best chance to win what is going on in our locker room do these people in general want one over the other is there say a veteran group that's like hey time's ticking do you do you think clas campbell wants to sit around and wait to see if one is better than the other. I'm not giving voice to anything that he might be thinking unless he really is thinking that. So I'll just call this an overreaction but to say that there's something real here under this conversation.

26:38What else you got? Alright, so this was obviously written last night after the game in the moment. Kind of the events of the last 30 minutes might have changed us a little bit but watching the Cowboys play kind of lifeless. defense has been obviously awful. They should blow it up and just start over. You got Dak and you got CD and then maybe a defensive player or two and then just fires. What are we doing?

27:06Rich Eisen:Blow what up? Up until the last two weeks, the Schottenheimer offense has been clicking. I think Schottenheimer does have TJ, you're the cowboy fainter. I think Schottenheimer's got a pulse in the locker room. Yeah, I told you guys. I don't think it's him. It's the defense. There's no question. But the offense didn't look like garbage. I mean, they don't have to blow it up. The problem is blowing it up. It's like, who wants Trevon Diggs now? Or Deron Bland now? You're not selling it at a high rate. The Cowboys only have a handful of picks in next year's draft. I mean, take what you can get for guys right now.

27:43Rich Eisen:They now have Quinnen Williams and Kenny Clark right up the middle, which is really freaking good. Okay, well, there's your building block. It is. And then, you know, Overshown can come back. He was all over the place before his knee got blown out. He was. So let's see. I do believe this year is a lost cause. Yeah, you'll get their schedule. 3-5-1, their schedule. Even let's just, you want to give them the ultimate? Do you want to give them the ultimate, which is what? 11-5-1? Well, you mean they run the table? They run the table. You want to give them the ultimate? What are the odds that they get the ultimate?

28:19Rich Eisen:it's got to be possibly dumb and dumber chance i mean yeah that's three wins at most so finish the season yeah so at this point i i don't believe the uh move for quinnon williams is a save our season situation yeah that's a he's got the star on the side of the helmet for a long time to come and we're gonna pay him and i know he's not he doesn't do what micah does but he's you know a version of micah from his position of dominance and um and we're done talking about having a problem stopping a run around here like i'm sick and tired of that runny nose yeah now we're gonna like we're gonna take our medicine no that's true but with the addition to these guys up front now the quarterback will have less time hopefully to find those guys i do think one of their one of their strengths is drafting well we do okay correct so fairly decent now hit hit because the offensive line is not a concern not until last night looks pretty good game does all right i mean maybe you get another receiver here if pickens leaves but if not you got pickens there there's enough there i wouldn't blow it up i think this is an overreaction you said three wins in the last eight i don't know yeah but give him give him five i can see five in their last eight But you know what's not working?

29:428-8-1 is not making the playoffs. Not in the NFC. What else, Chris? Definitely not. Thinking about, we were talking yesterday, the Vikings, the Bears look great. Lions may be trending down. This division's too tough. NFC North only getting two playoff teams. I think three make it from the West. So that means two playoff teams from the North.

30:07Rich Eisen:Only one's making it from... Hackers trending in the wrong direction. I think right now we're seeing one makes it from the south and the east. Okay? I think we can be safe to say here without overreacting. And I just like the – I won't quit the Niners. I think they've got some moxie about them that's going to be tough to beat. I know that. But, I mean, the Bears are 5-3. The Vikings are 4-4. I think you're right. I don't think that's an overreaction. I'm still thinking three from the west and two from the north. And obviously one from the east. Like the commanders are kind of toast right now. And the Cowboys are 3-5-1.

30:51Rich Eisen:And the Falcons can't win consistently. The Panthers are 5-4 now. I guess that's true. That's true. The Panthers are knocking. They are. They're knocking. Let's see how they can prove me wrong by calling this a proper reaction. What else, Chris? Jets have offers on the table for Brees Hall, according to Connor Hughes. Yikes. I mean, I guess you might as well just keep on dealing. A couple more overreactions here. Look, Sunday in Buffalo, huge game. We said it. I'm doing the playoffs for me for Buffalo, but you thought it was a huge win for the Bills, and it's funny how one week Chiefs are best team in the NFL, and now they're in trouble.

31:29They're sniffing it. Sunday's the only Bills-Chiefs matchup we're getting this season. I'll just call that an overreaction at the moment I think they both wind up making it I think they both wind up making it and I think they play again and I think they play again or they'd have to play again for the AFC championship game if neither of them if neither of them trip to the bay if neither of them win their division they're both wild card teams and they'll have to win two on the road to host an AFC championship game one of them has to win the division for this to really be a a proper reaction i mean both of them have to lose their division for this to be a proper reaction one of them has to win their division in order to make this an overreaction where it doesn't have it's it's a divisional round if not wild card round matchup oh you imagine that in the wild card that's like the five four That won't be the Saturday 1 Eastern matchup.

32:30Not Saturday 1 o 'clock. That won't be Saturday 4 o 'clock. Definitely not. The only way it's Saturday 4 o 'clock is if they have a neutral site in Houston.

32:41They should do that for old times. That will not be the first one out of the gate on super wild card weekend. That will not happen. By the way, they stopped calling it that. If the Colts aren't the one seed, they're locked into that Saturday. What else you got over there? All right, last one. The Dodgers. You mean you could make a reservation for St. Elmo's? Yeah, I think so. Post game? Dodgers go back to back, beat the Yankees one year, beat the Blue Jays the next. What do those two teams have in common? AL East. Dodgers are going to three-peat by beating an AL East team again. Okay, so you want to put the Red Sox in the World Series?

33:21Is that what you're saying? Tampa, Baltimore. Chris, is that what you're saying? Put the Red Sox in the World Series. just saying okay oh and they beat tampa in 2020 the one that no one counts everybody counts it although did you see jeter talking on fox with mookie bets in a one-on-one and he asked him how many rings do you have and he said three and he goes sure it's not two and a half two and a half wow two and a half jeter that's pretty funny i do believe i think i saw a stat that mookie betts is only the third player ever to have four rings and not play a single one for the yankees really in history in history there's only three players who have ever won four rings yeah and never won one of them for the yankees because you know the yankees have 27 of them that's a lot because ortiz wasn't on the team in 18 so he only has saying i mean when you win 27 yeah we got two okay dang that's pretty interesting that's what i heard uh this is an overreaction how dare you there's only one team that's going to be three peating and it was the uh yankees of a few decades ago let me throw a time out so are you saying it's an overreaction that they're gonna win three or just by beating no he says that the dodgers i'm pivoting off of this reaction to think that they they're gonna three pete though no it is not yeah but beating an al east team again notice he didn't say one that they've already beaten the red sock fan over there he just wants to get oh my god roman anthony is gonna be great and we're a great don't sleep on um it's better than anyone on your team except judge okay that's an overreaction i have one more overreaction oh i got one for you what do you got yeah one more i did not know this mike del tufo had he gone to the parade would never in a million years have worn that yankee Dodger hat to the Dodger parade.

35:18You would never have had the guts. This thing is so embarrassing. You never would have been telling me that's a reaction, that's proper, or not proper. Until I get rid of Cash Boone, I'm done with those guys. Okay. Cash Boone, Al, I come back. You're all Dodger now? I'm all Dodgers. I'm done. So you would never have ever worn that. You're proudly wearing you're a Yankee and a Dodger fan. You would never have shown up to that parade yesterday wearing that hat. I didn't show up to the parade wearing that. Did you go to the parade yesterday? No, I did not go to the parade. Hand on a Bible. I thought you were mixing the parade from a bus.

35:52I was on one of the buses on top playing with the World Series trophy. Good one. And snap. All right, we'll get Derwin James on on another day. 844-204-RICH, number to dial. My goodness gracious. What else is popping? I don't know. It's amazing. Brees Hall. I don't know. I mean, what else is there? Keep going. Can we predict who might get Brees Hall? Maybe we'll do that when we come back. Who needs Brees Hall?

36:14Rich Eisen:We got that top five list. That's your team.

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37:31Rich Eisen:Right here on the Rich Eisen Show. 844-204-RICH number to dial. David in Richmond. We were just talking to him about the Miami Dolphins. and what they're doing. I don't know. There's an hour and 15 minutes left. Would you flip a one for Jalen Waddell? If I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean, next year's draft, you do want to have a first-round pick when your fans are all there. It's exciting. But the bottom line is, you're going to draft somebody like Jalen Waddell as young as him? Probably not. But is that all it is? Is it less? Or you're basically saying, to hell with you, first-round pick. It was a third for Jalen Phillips.

38:08Rich Eisen:He plays a premium position. You know, some of these other receivers, there's a fourth and a fifth for Shahid and a fourth and a sixth, right, for Jacoby Myers. I mean, Jalen Waddell's great, but a first overall pick? I understand that Steelers might want to stand firm on that.

38:29Rich Eisen:And, you know, like I said, you can get a player now to win now. I'm taking it. I'm taking it. The Rams after all the picks and guess what? They win a championship and guess what? A couple of years later, they start drafting really well. Remember they have to all the picks. Take a look at all the kids in the 2022 and 2023 draft. You know, when everybody thought, you know, you season ticket holders at SoFi thought that you were getting a letter, you know, please be patient with us. Oh yeah, that's right. While we reload and instead all they've done is just win football games. So after picks, put the trophy in the case and figure it out.

39:06Rich Eisen:and kick the cane down the road. That's what I would do. I would also hire Les Snead. That helps. Garrett in Houston, Texas. You're here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up, Garrett? Hey, Rich. Evening or afternoon. So this is mainly a reaction just for the ESPN power rankings for the Steelers. All right. We only moved up one, and we beat the Colts, the number one offense. and I find that to be surprising. I feel like we should be number five, especially with how well we played. I mean, three forced fumbles, three interceptions. Ooh, firing on all cylinders. TJ Watts starts it off with that forced fumble.

39:50Love it. All right, two questions for you, Garrett. Firstly, do you want me to get you a name? Somebody in ESPN? You need a name? You want a name? Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, wait till you hear my power. I'll tell you right now. I was contemplating the name drop. Well, then I'll just tell you right now, my power rankings are tomorrow. I do not plan putting the Steelers top five. You really think they are a top five team in the National Football League, which means they are in the realm with, obviously, they could play with the Colts, who are top my power rankings as the AFC best. You think that they can play in the pen with anybody in the NFC West right now?

40:29You think they could do that? Okay. Mm-hmm. got the grit and the resilience nfc north you're gonna see it it's perfect yeah hey listen rogers is playing way better than he did as a jet he is turning back the clock with his um physical abilities that is for sure neck up there's nobody better than him maybe all time um i just need to see it more consistently before i put him top five it's just that simple thank you for the goal garrett you know was that miles that the garrett

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41:38For two firsts. Diana saying that the Jets asking price is a third round pick. Nobody willing to pay that right now. For Brees Hall? Yeah, and now there's reports that Brees Hall has informed the Jets he wants to be traded. Oh, okay. With an hour to go.

41:54Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, he's sitting there saying, all right, I'm going to play off the string here while everybody else auditions for a job that I know I would have. One dog's that way, one dog's that way. What do you want from me? I don't blame him. Come on out. He's hurt his knee more times than I can count. And for him to basically say, oh, yeah, I'll stick around here. Get me out of here. and I'll tell you what, I would oblige him. I would oblige him. Because if you want to be in New York with Aaron Glenn, then you stay. But I don't blame him in his position where he's playing for his next contract and he's been hurt so many times.

42:37Rich Eisen:Why is he playing out the string and trying to score points for a team where everybody else is trying out for future jobs in a lost season? because he's up there on par at the running back spot when he's working it and healthy with Quinnen Williams and Sauce Gardner. He's done more for the Jets this year than Sauce has. Racks. Where else are we going here? Let's go to Jack in Kansas City. Jack. How you doing, Rich? What's going on, Jack? So, Rich, I wanted to ask, what should my Kansas City Chiefs do at the trade deadline or they shouldn't do anything that old. No, no, no. Go get Brees Hall. That wouldn't be a bad one.

43:20Go get Brees Hall? Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking Brees Hall or Jermaine Johnson, you know, we need some help on that D-line.

43:28Rich Eisen:I'm sure everybody can use a pass rusher. Oh, yeah, they're both available. That's not a bad idea. Thanks for the call, Jack. I mean, you know, the Eagles supercharged their running back and their offensive running back position with Saquon when you thought, hey, we're making Super Bowls or have a Super Bowl-worthy team with them or without them. And the Niners did that with Christian McCaffrey. Maybe the Chiefs do that with Brees Hall. They've been, you know, rumored for Alan Kamara seemingly for weeks, but he's not going anywhere. A third for Brees Hall. That's a lot. Why? Why? Again, I don't understand it.

44:07Because teams are using, Kalmanongai was a seventh-round pick.

44:10Rich Eisen:Right. So get your running back with a seventh round. Just look at Rutgers. Brashad Smith is a seventh round pick that they have. I just don't know if the Chiefs, boy, him and those screens and those games that they play would be outstanding. I mean, those guys are playing great. Pacheco and Kareem Hunt, but Brasol is such an upgrade over those two players. Flip a three. I'd rather not give up a third round pick. Why? Hey, the guy is electric when he is healthy. He threw a touchdown pass. Yeah. By the way, the Bengals, that's another stat. I believe they're the first team on defense to give up.

44:50Rich Eisen:To give up touchdown passes and back-to-back games thrown by non-quarterbacks. Because, you know, DJ Moore did it this week, too. Oh, my gosh, almighty. I mean, there's a lot of Velcro opening up today. There is a lot of Velcro opening up today. I'm hitting refresh. Frank in South Carolina. Hey, Frank. You there, Frank? Hey, Rich. What's up? Hey, love the show. Guys are great. I'm a Bills fan. I need to know, man. What in God's name are they doing? Are they going to do something today or what? I only got an hour and eight minutes as of this conversation, Frank. They were sniffing around Jacoby Myers, but that's about all we heard from Buffalo.

45:37I'm thinking to myself, for the draft picks that these teams gave up, the Bills should have been in. We need something to get us over the hump. This everybody eats thing is great, but it's not going to get us where we need to go.

45:51Rich Eisen:I don't know, man. James Cook and Kincaid and Allen, I can get you where you need to go. I love them. How many times have we kept saying, you know, the Bills need to get this guy or that guy as a number one wide receiver, and, you know, they had digs, didn't work out, Gabe Davis had one of the biggest games in the history of their playoffs. You know what I mean? I just, I don't know. I hear you, Frank. Thanks for the call. Hang in there. Everybody's like looking to see what everybody's doing. Come on, people are getting people. And it's like, where am I? What a time to be on TV or on ESPN radio presented by Progressive Insurance.

46:28All right. Let's see what happens in the next hour. Come on.

46:31Rich Eisen:I have a feeling we'll lead with it tomorrow before Kurt Warner joins us. I think Derwin James might join us tomorrow I don't know We'll find him He's down the street I'll stop on the way home Will you do that for me Mikey? Pick something up for us Pick us up an all pro defender On your way home Say hi to your mother for me That's Boston Wow what a day This was great All light up Let's go Let's do another hour We finish up with two great Digi-knows on the Sauce Gardner trade coming back. I'm back, guys. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app.

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