Hour 3: Joe Burrow “Pressure” Debate, Marv Albert Talks Knicks, plus Henry Winkler In-Studio

17 Jun 2026 · 47 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show focuses on (1) the Knicks’ 53-year championship run and Jalen Brunson’s clutch performance, (2) Marv Albert’s memories as a Knicks/Rangers broadcaster and his experience calling the 1994 O.J. Simpson chase during an NBA Finals telecast, (3) Joe Burrow’s “pressure” comments and Bengals season outlook, and (4) Henry Winkler’s Hazardous History stories and career reflections.

Guests (backgrounds)

  • Marv Albert: veteran New York sports broadcaster (Knicks/Rangers radio; NBC play-by-play).
  • Henry Winkler: Emmy-winning actor; narrator/executive producer of Hazardous History (History Channel).
  • Joe Burrow: Bengals QB (LSU standout; Super Bowl experience mentioned).
  • (Also referenced: Patrick Ewing, Jalen Brunson, Mike Brown, O.J. Simpson, Ron Howard.)

Key claims

  • Knicks’ title was fueled by 13 straight playoff wins and defense; Brunson’s Game 5 closeout scoring is “Jordan-like.”
  • Ewing appears transformed and supportive of today’s Knicks.
  • Burrow says he “thrives” on pressure and wants others talking about it.
  • Hazardous History highlights outdated sports practices (barefoot kickers, smoking in locker rooms, unmasked NHL goalies).

Notable examples

  • Brunson’s 45-point road closeout tie to Jordan’s record; photo of Ewing holding the Larry O’Brien next to Brunson.
  • O.J. chase cutaways between Tom Brokaw and Albert during Knicks-Rockets Finals.
  • Winkler recounts water-skiing stunts and “jump the shark” references.

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Chapters

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Reflecting on Championship Coaches

0:04 to 0:26

Discussion on the recent appearances of championship coaches on the show.

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Reflecting on Championship Coaches

1:27 to 2:20

Discussion on the recent appearances of championship coaches on the show.

“Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.”

Marv Albert Joins the Show

2:20 to 3:35

Rich Eisen welcomes broadcasting legend Marv Albert to discuss the Knicks' victory.

“And I'm so thrilled to have joining me here off the top of our number three is someone I thought of when the Knicks won it all.”

The Knicks' Championship Celebration

3:35 to 5:28

Marv shares his emotions about the Knicks' recent championship win.

“Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only Marv Albert here.”

Jalen Brunson's Performance

5:28 to 7:25

Analysis of Jalen Brunson's playoff performances compared to basketball legends.

“Well, I mean, you take a look at what Jalen Brunson has done, Marv.”

Team Dynamics and Player Character

7:25 to 8:12

Marv discusses the likability of the current Knicks team and its chemistry.

“I couldn't help but notice that, Marv, you know?”

Patrick Ewing's Legacy

8:12 to 10:46

Exploration of Patrick Ewing's transformation and impact on the current Knicks team.

“He's been with teams that have not been good and did a great job with listening to players and just handling every situation extremely well.”

The Cultural Impact of Basketball in NYC

10:46 to 12:34

Discussion on basketball's significance and its role in New York City's culture.

“So what would Red Holtzman think of this team, do you think?”

The O.J. Simpson Chase Anniversary

12:34 to 14:01

Marv recounts his experience during the O.J. Simpson chase while broadcasting the NBA Finals.

“It's the most popular sport in New York City and its environment because kids and adults play it as opposed, you know, for baseball, you need X number of people.”

Marv Albert's Unforgettable NBA Finals Moment

14:01 to 19:21

Marv Albert recounts his experiences during the infamous O.J. Simpson chase while broadcasting the NBA Finals.

“And you were at the microphone of the NBA Finals contest between the Knicks and the Rockets.”
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Transition to Henry Winkler

19:21 to 19:41

Rich Eisen expresses his excitement about having Henry Winkler on the show.

Henry Winkler on Hazardous History

22:43 to 28:00

Henry Winkler discusses his new show on the History Channel and shares anecdotes from the past.

“henry winkler airing sunday nights at 9 p.m eastern on the history channel um and again other other aspects that you're you hit here um the candies that looked like cigarettes Oh, candies who look like cigarettes.”

Smoking in Sports: A Personal Reflection

28:00 to 30:15

Henry Winkler shares his past experiences with smoking and its impact on his life.

“This is Len Dawson during the Super Bowl.”

Water Skiing and Jumping the Shark

30:15 to 31:38

Winkler recounts his experiences with water skiing and the iconic 'jumping the shark' moment.

“Last one from our sports edition that's no longer happening.”

Arrested Development: Iconic Collaborations

31:38 to 34:38

Winkler discusses his role in Arrested Development and collaboration with Ron Howard.

“My daughter, my 12-year-old daughter, has watched every episode of Arrested Development.”

Personal Connections and Memories

34:38 to 37:57

Winkler shares heartfelt memories related to family and his bond with Ron Howard.

“And I wanted to pause and say, do you understand, she doesn't clearly, understand that Ron Howard and Henry Winkler together as part of a cast is one of the most iconic television shows ever.”

Sports Talk and Predictions

37:57 to 39:06

Discussion on Joe Burrow and the pressure of being a quarterback.

“I'm going to have something on the way out.”

Sports Talk and Predictions

39:44 to 40:16

Discussion on Joe Burrow and the pressure of being a quarterback.

“No one goes to Hank's for his spreadsheets.”

Sports Talk and Predictions

40:20 to 40:53

Discussion on Joe Burrow and the pressure of being a quarterback.

“Back here on The Rich Eisen Show, everybody.”

Joe Burrow on Pressure

40:53 to 42:03

Discussion about Joe Burrow's comments on pressure as a quarterback.

“Is there any added level of pressure that comes with understanding what you have here?”

Joe Burrow's Pressure Talk

42:03 to 46:59

Discussion about Joe Burrow's mindset and expectations for the upcoming season.

“I know that we have the kind of people that want to be in that spot.”
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1:34From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Earlier on the show Hurricanes head coach Rod Brindamore Indiana head coach Kurt Cignetti Coming up Broadcasting legend Marv Albert Emmy award winning actor Henry Winkler And now, Rich Eisen.

1:56Rich Eisen:Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. We already had two championship head coaches on the program. Rod Brindamore of the Stanley Cup champion Carolina Hurricanes joined us in hour number one. And because I'm a patient man, joining us months after winning the national championship in football, Indiana's Kurt Signetti joined us on the show. i am all how lucky i am such a lucky guy i get to hang here with you guys every day doing what we do buddy uh and i hang with all of you on disney plus the espn app on espn radio sirius xm 844-204-rich is a number for you to phone in uh and talk with me i just had a very nice chat in our green room with henry winkler who's about to join us once again in our studio um and i i'm I never take it for granted.

2:51Rich Eisen:And I'm so thrilled to have joining me here off the top of our number three is someone I thought of when the Knicks won it all. Because I do what I do for a living. Because I grew up in New York City. And I listened to this man call Knicks games on the radio and Rangers games on the radio. And conduct himself every night on NBC. locally to give me the sports. And I fell in love with sports broadcasting because of this man and his cadence and the way he went about his job. And the fact that I get to speak with him right now after the Knicks won it all after 53 years is something I do not take for granted.

3:35Rich Eisen:Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only Marv Albert here. How are you, Marv? Hey, Rick. Great to talk with you. What a packed lineup you have today. Yes. You know what? It's my crack staff, to use your phrase. It is my crack staff putting it together. I truly, I'm not just saying that because you're kind enough to say yes to joining this program. But it's the truth. I thought of you, man, when the Knicks won it all after 53 years because you called the last one. And how did it hit you when you watched the Knicks win it all, Marv? Well, first of all, Rich, that's very kind. I was obviously very happy for them.

4:17Back in 1970, when they won their first, to me, that was the most exciting. They did win in 73 also. But 70 was the team of Walt Frazier and Willis Reed and Bill Bradley and Dave DeBusher. Then it was Dick Barnett. Then in 73, Earl Monroe joined. So those were two excellent teams. This team was surprising because during the regular season, they were good, but not what they were in the playoffs when they reeled off 13 straight wins and came behind somehow dramatically in two of those games. It was thrilling no matter what the team or who the team would be that a ball club could do that. It was just amazing.

5:08And, of course, the city went crazy, perhaps too crazy at times. Back in our day, we didn't have watch parties. But the city fell in love with this team to a point where it was over the top in some situations.

5:28Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, you take a look at what Jalen Brunson has done, Marv. Is there any similarities that you've witnessed throughout your career to see somebody join a team and turn himself in many ways into one of the greatest performances or performers in clutch time? Is there any comparison? It's funny. There was a letter to the editor in the New York Times yesterday asking, how does one gauge the greatness of Jalen Brunson, Villanova class of 2018? Well, at least for now, it seems that he has edged out Pope Leo, the 14th Villanova class of 1977 as the university's most celebrated alum. That's where this has gone.

6:24What he has done, of course, he was doing it throughout the season. But what he has done is one of the greatest playoff performances, I think, of all time. And there have been many as one who did a host of Michael Jordan's performances during the 90s. But Bronson was just incredible.

6:45Rich Eisen:Yeah, and his 45 points in San Antonio ties Jordan for the most points in a closeout NBA Finals game on the road. And I just couldn't sit here and help but think that, again, Jordan is the avatar of what stood in the Knicks way in many of the Ewing years. You were at the mic for so many of those moments. and the fact that Brunson came up with a Jordan-like performance for the Knicks, as opposed to the Knicks being prevented from getting what Brunson brought them, you know, because it was done to the Knicks by Jordan. I couldn't help but notice that, Marv, you know? Yeah, that's an interesting point.

7:32Particularly in that Brunson, I guess he's listed at 6 '2". He's maybe 6 '1". And it's most unusual to watch him operate on a night-by-night basis, but he has actually done that all season and did it last season, but not to the point that we saw in Game 5 and then the earlier game. But he has really been something, and he handles himself so well. One of the likable qualities of this Knick squad is that they are extremely likable. That doesn't always happen on teams, particularly winning teams. But this is a very special group. Mike Brown came over. He'd been with championship teams. He's been with teams that have not been good and did a great job with listening to players and just handling every situation extremely well.

8:36Rich Eisen:Yeah, and it's not usual, as you pointed out, about teams being likable. Certainly those that win one for New York, Marv, that's usually not hand in hand. Not many of them, yes. That's usually not hand in hand here. There's a photograph that really hit me. we're going to pop it on the screen. Clearly, you know, you're on the phone, so you don't see. It's the moment of Patrick Ewing holding the Larry O 'Brien trophy next to Jalen Brunson, who he's known since Jalen was two, with Rick Brunson being on the 99 team that could not get past the Spurs like this team did. And the look of just sheer elation on Ewing's face as if, and he did say, like, I get to hold this.

9:21Rich Eisen:He feels like he has won the Larry O 'Brien, Marv. And that really, that hit me, too, when I saw this. He's also, Patrick is a changed person. I don't know if you were in New York at the time when he was a star of the team, but he was tough to talk to. And he changed when he became, I got to know him better when he was an assistant to Doug Collins in Washington, and then he coached a bit. And he's a great guy. In the past, he hated talking to anyone in the media. He just was not friendly, and he turned around, and you could see the way he was so happy for the guys of today on the Knicks team. He traveled with the team as a number of former Knicks, which was nice to see.

10:10but yeah that I did see that photo and it's really it shows Patrick in a different light than a lot of people remember him from his days as a player and then one last one for you here on

10:25Rich Eisen:this you know numerologists pointing out that the number of all-time wins by Red Holtzman that hangs on the banner in Madison Square Garden 613 and the Knicks won this championship on June 13th about 6-13. Am I informing you of that, Marv? Yeah, definitely. Okay, very good. New information for me. I'll write it down for you if you want. So what would Red Holtzman think of this team, do you think? Oh, he would love it because they play defense, too, and that was his thing. That's how he turned around a Knick team that was so-so when he took over. They were a very good defensive team. We're talking about DeBuscher, who was terrific in that department, and Willis Reed.

11:19Earl came later, but Frazier was also an excellent defensive player, great hands. So, yeah, he would have loved this club. I mean, you know, I think back to 1970 and 73. The city was wild, particularly in 70, about the Knick Championship. But nowhere, not what we've seen today. Being a New Yorker, you would get a kick out of this. You know, aside from the extracurricular activity that took place in some of the watch parties. but it's unbelievable how this area has just responded to what they've done.

12:01Rich Eisen:I do love it. I mean, I saw, I've seen videos all over the place. I just saw one today of looks like a four-year-old boy, three-year-old boy walking up to people in the park saying, Nick's one, they're all hugging and high-fiving and exchanging gear. It really is great to see, as you pointed out, despite the extracurriculars. it's just great to see because I was pointing out here Marv that the Knicks contingent to use another phrase of yours includes Yankees and Mets fans and Rangers fans and Islanders fans and Giants fans and Jet fans that might not ordinarily get along but the Knicks kind of bring everyone together on that front as you know it's an enormous basketball city You know, there are hoops everywhere, backboards.

12:54It's the most popular sport in New York City and its environment because kids and adults play it as opposed, you know, for baseball, you need X number of people. Football, also X number of people in a different type of sport. Hockey has become more popular than ice hockey has. We used to play roller hockey, but ice hockey has become much more popular. But there's nothing like basketball in New York City. So that's part of it. I think people do get attracted by the way this team played. And not only how successful they were, but as I said, they were such a likable group. And they played the game in the right way.

13:46And you don't always see that.

13:48Rich Eisen:I would be remiss, Marv, before I let you go on with the rest of your day. I don't know if you are aware, but today is the 32nd anniversary of the day that O.J. Simpson went on a slow-speed chase right here in Los Angeles, California. Yes, I do remember, yes. And you were at the microphone of the NBA Finals contest between the Knicks and the Rockets. What was that day like for you at the broadcast chair, and how were you informed of what was going on, Marv? That was, I'd have to say, the most unusual day I personally have had as a broadcaster. We were going back and forth, doing the game, but we were going back and forth with Tom Brokaw, who was in the studio, and they'd cut away every so often.

14:34At that time, there were TV monitors at courtside on the far side from us. It was more for the media that was sitting courtside and the players during a timeout. I remember it was Houston against the Knicks. I remember Kenny Smith running over to take a look during a timeout and then going back to the bench. And I'm told he said, they're chasing OJ, they're chasing OJ. And we had Dick Ebersole, who was running the sports department at NBC, sitting to my left. and he was basically directing the telecast from his seat at the Garden. He had a headset on, and we were going back and forth, and it was crazy just seeing it on our monitor as it went to Tom, and then it'd come back to me, and I'd get right into the play-by-play, and then go back to Tom Brokaw, and it'd go back to me, and I'm doing play-by-play, and there's the chase.

15:37There's OJ, you know, stampering on the highway.

15:43Rich Eisen:It was incredible. Just incredible. How does one professionally turn a page? I mean, I just remember you were just frequently taking it back from Brokaw and just, what, pausing and then calling the game? Like, how do you do that, Marv? You know? Well, I could always set my mind on what was happening. I'm sure you would have too if you were courtside. I mean, you have to just roll with it. And I don't think there's ever been anything like that. And because it was O.J. Simpson, in fact, O.J. worked at NBC as doing the pregame NFL show. In fact, funny story, I was working with Paul McGuire at the time, And we would always rehearse what we were going to say in the open of the NFL telecast.

16:40And OJ would be downstairs and he'd be listening to what we were saying. And then we learned a couple of times he was taking that material that Paul was using and would go with it on the pregame show. So what we did, we started doing, and it worked. We would basically throw a, we would make up stuff and say it, things that we were not going to say as we opened the telecast, and he went with it, you know? So that's my best OJ story.

17:19Rich Eisen:Were you, like, fake information just to see if he would actually pass? Yeah, we were faking it, yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Well, that happened 32 years ago today, that chase during the NBA finals, Marv. Yep, yep. You know, I was in this sports bar in Chicago. I just graduated from the Medill School of Journalism, hoping to be a sports broadcaster one day, and I just didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to say. The bar was deathly quiet, you know, watching this thing go down. But I was a... I think most people felt that same way. But I was also a diehard Nick fan, Marv, and this was a big game, man.

17:58Rich Eisen:and I swear to you at one point I was just watching the game on the bottom of the screen, right? Like there was a split screen. The larger square rectangle had the chase and the smaller square had the game. At one point I screamed out, that was a flagrant foul and everyone looked at me like, what's your problem? You know? That was one of those unbelievable moments, I think, in television history, not only sports, but just in the history of television. It was just unbelievable. Marv, I really do not take this for granted. I really don't. I embarrass you every time that you are kind enough to do anything with me.

18:46Rich Eisen:I don't care, to be honest with you. Truly, I do what I do for a living, and I rip you off every day with words, cadence every day. And I speak for so many others who do that to say thank you. I appreciate it. Well, I appreciate it. Thank you for the extremely kind words. Thanks a lot, Rich. You bet. And say hello to Heather. Susie wanted me to say hello to Susie. You got it. I will do that. Marv, you are the man. Thanks again. Greatly appreciate your two cents more than that. Thanks, Rich. Anytime. I will do that. That's Marv Albert. Yes. And it counts.

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20:22Rich Eisen:I so want to hit round ball rock. Don't do it, Mike. We can't afford it. Don't mess with the test. Henry Winkler coming up next on the Rich Eisen Show, everybody.

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22:42Rich Eisen:there was no on off switch is the host narrator and executive producer of hazardous history with henry winkler airing sunday nights at 9 p.m eastern on the history channel um and again other other aspects that you're you hit here um the candies that looked like cigarettes Oh, candies who look like cigarettes. But also, you know, they thought sugar. Yes. They would help make the children energetic. And then so they would have cereal like Frankenberry. And then made their children poop pink. And parents were panicked. But I must say, listen, the last time I was here. Yes, sir. Great things happened.

23:25Yes, sir. And Chief Super Bowl t-shirt. Unbelievable. So I got to meet, you know, because of you, I got to meet the great Patrick Mahomes. The man never has come to my house for dinner. Well, here's the thing. What is it?

23:42Rich Eisen:I think he's been busy. I'm busy. Unfortunately, last year, the Chargers home game with the Chiefs was played in Brazil. Right. So they never made it here last year. They did not. No. They never got to LA. That might be part of it. Is there a thing called off time? No. But anyway, it was, I am thrilled. I have his jersey. Yes. And I wear it every Super Bowl. Oh. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Is there, because I think the last time you said that you would offer him, what, a chicken dish? Chicken with reduction. Okay. With a reduction sauce. Correct. Mashed potatoes and a vegetable. And I'm telling you.

24:26Yes. It is still available.

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24:28Rich Eisen:Is there anything? because you know he's he's rehabbing a knee injury is there anything we have ice we have ice and uh i will pack him i'll pack his knee what about chicken soup the jewish penicillin does you know what it is true though do you think chicken soup really really works but uh i think this is beyond that and i only wish him well well here's the thing uh do we have the schedules of the Rams and the Chargers that we could show Henry Winkler? Oh, here's the Chiefs schedule. Look at this. They are at the Los Angeles Chargers right at the top of next year, June, January 2nd or 3rd. That's in week 17.

25:09Rich Eisen:I will be here. But look at this. What? Week 13. It says Henry? No. No, no. Week 13, they're at the Rams. There's two trips to Los Angeles. Hello? Two. Two. Top of December, top of January. Yeah. Are you around? Do you know what you're saying? You know what? I'll make myself around. I am not kidding. I will make myself square if that's what it takes. You love him still that much. I do. He is wonderful. I am so sorry he got hurt. I want to tell you something. I know that the man was never bar mitzvahed because, honestly, anybody else being that hurt, playing that hard, I cannot imagine it. I would just fall to the turf and cry.

25:56I would. Yeah, I never met Mr. Kelsey. Okay, so we got to get that done for you. Well, now it's probably out of my...

26:07Rich Eisen:No, no, no, no, that's not, no, no, no, no, no. Henry Winkler. He gave me a t-shirt though. He did. It said, what, it said Faith Football and Fonzie, didn't it? Yeah, it was the football family. Yeah, the football family Fonzie t-shirt. So, yeah, he's not out of... First of all, nobody's out of your house. Max directed him. In what? In a thing with Nicey Nash. I forget what that was called. The TV show? Huh? The TV show, yeah. He was wonderful. He was so natural. That's what he wants to do, I think, when it's over. Yeah, but you know what? I'm not kidding. He has the thing in him. Okay. We have, by the way, hazardous history.

26:50Rich Eisen:Henry Winkler is here on The Rich Eisen Show. It's Sunday nights, 9 p.m. Eastern on the History Channel. And again, it's a series going down things that we used to do for fun or out of plain boredom that you can't do anymore. Hopefully not. Well, because some of it's dangerous. You're talking about sports. Do you know that a catcher for baseball in the beginning, they did not have the equipment and they used straw between their body and the shirt to stop the ball? I couldn't imagine that would be helpful. Well, it didn't. It didn't help. and didn't at all. We have some instances as well. I don't know if they're on your show or not.

27:26Rich Eisen:Well, they will be. Okay, very good. Here's the first one, the sports edition of Hazardous History. Put it up on the screen here. Barefoot kickers. Yes. Kickers used to be barefoot. Yes. Out on the field. Could you imagine? No. You know? No, because I don't know what they did because you have to kick that thing, and that thing is like a hard pigskin. Right. And you could see on turf, you could scrape a toe. Oh, you could break a nail. Yeah, you know what I mean? So you can't do that anymore. No. You got to put on a shoe. Yeah. Okay. Here's another one for you. You don't do it anymore. Like smoking in the locker room.

28:03Rich Eisen:Yeah. Look at this. This is Len Dawson during the Super Bowl. Right. You know what I mean? Where is he now? The thing is that, no, no, he's a very good player. I'm sure he. But could you imagine they used to smoke during games? Well, you know, you run out of breath. I was a smoker. You were? I was. If I could smoke the entire pack at once, I would have. You mean taking all of them? All 20 at once. Just cut off the bottom of the pack, light them up. When did you smoke? I smoked until 1980-something. Gary Marshall sent a woman to my house for a week. and she wore this metal wooden necklace. And I said, oh my God, I had an Irish set or two growing up.

28:56She said, this is the Maharishi. But that was embarrassing. Yeah. But I stopped smoking then. So that's when it hits you? Like, I need to stop smoking? Well, you know what? My children said, dad, you smell. Oh, got it. And I went, okay. So you would like all throughout happy days, you were a smoker? Yeah. And people would say, don't you, you know, aren't you setting an example? And I thought, I, I smoke. I'm sorry. I tried not to smoke in public, but, um, I can't, uh, take responsibility. I had no idea. Until I stopped.

29:34Rich Eisen:Uh, in the same way that you pointed out that, uh, catchers used to wear straw. Yes. Are you aware that NHL goalies never wore masks? Yes. Yes. And the man got the puck in the face 33 times. He went into the locker room. He got a plastic like a mask over his face. He came out. The manager said, you cannot do that. The audience wants to see your face. He said, I will not go on the ice if I can't wear this because my face hurts. Is this in Hazard Resist? That is in the story. Oh, how about that? We finally found one. Yeah. I thought it was a Jewish mother that said, put on a mask. No. Also, every mother would say put on a mask.

30:17Rich Eisen:Put on a mask. But it's true. Okay. Last one from our sports edition that's no longer happening. Is people water skiing and jumping over shark-infested waters? I did that. I did that. I did all of the water skiing except for the jump. They wouldn't let me do a stunt. Because you're the star. Yeah, and there was no replacement. There was no understudy. But I just want to say, and I've said this a few times, at the end, I let go of the skis. I pulled up on the sand. I walked out of the skis and they freeze frame on my smile. Half that smile is the Fonz going, hey, look at that. I did it. The other half is Henry Winkler going, oh, you did it.

31:07You did. That's the hazardous history. My short German father said to me, tell Gary Marshall that you water ski. I said, I probably am not going to say that. Tell Gary Marshall you water ski. And so finally, after 100 times, I said, Gary, I water ski. And boom. There you go. Yeah. The history is now history. Yeah. Nobody's ever done it again. Jump the shark. I've jumped it twice. Once on Arrested Development. Wait a minute. They did that. They made you do that again. Well, not the water skiing. I jumped over a shark on the dock.

31:43Rich Eisen:I love that show. Yeah. Thank you. My daughter, my 12-year-old daughter, has watched every episode of Arrested Development. I love her. We don't stop her, even though some of that stuff's not terribly appropriate. No, but she's going to hear it anyway. But it's not just that. But all of my kids have watched them. And one time we ran into you a few months ago. Yes. My family was there. you may recall when we just said hello is in the is it a tennis club yes and we were at a memorial i know and my wife was actually on the court uh right around the corner screaming about a a ball that she should have hit better but you know what i could that's life happens well it's also said a little this a little that sounds like she was part of the mourners group is what i basically told her but my daughter said dad that's barry zucker corn and i'm like oh my god i like this woman you know That's what she said because she loves your character.

32:37What is her name? Her name is Taylor. Taylor, have the greatest summer, Taylor. She's so great.

32:44Rich Eisen:She's like, oh, dad, that's Barry Suckercorn. What did you like about doing Arrested Development? What did you like about that? First of all, the cast was amazing. Second of all, I was hired for like two episodes and I stayed for five years. Third of all, it was written so incredibly well. Mitch Hurwitz, the creator, had a feed in his office of what we were doing on the soundstage. He could see every angle of the cameras. And you were about to say something so funny you couldn't believe it. And he came running in, no, no, no, say this, say this. and it was funnier than one of the funniest things I was ever going to say that he had already written.

33:32I am not kidding. It was an amazement.

33:34Rich Eisen:What's your favorite scene that you did that you loved? I don't have a favorite. Okay. I have a favorite child, but I can't tell you. Okay. But, you know, because I have to live with them, but I don't have a favorite. I enjoy my job. I love my job every day. Yeah. and you know I just again your character was in so many positions that I would never think Henry Winkler would ever be in but that is my job you know my job is to just create life in order to hold a mirror up to society yes because hopefully we know everybody we're seeing if it's written well I just didn't want to pause a couple times because pausing a television show to a child is a provocative act.

34:22Rich Eisen:They want to watch it, right? You've got grandchildren, you've got kids. So there's a scene, one of the scenes, I don't recall which one, where you are playing your character and it's led into by a voiceover from Ron Howard. And I wanted to pause and say, do you understand, she doesn't clearly, understand that Ron Howard and Henry Winkler together as part of a cast is one of the most iconic television shows ever. Did that ever hit you? He is still my, like my relative. Can you hear my stomach talking? No, I cannot. Can the audience hear? No, I cannot. I'm going to have breakfast right after this.

35:07Ron, okay, this is great. Ron comes from a family that left the farm in Oklahoma. They went to New York. This was before Ron and his brother Clint were born. And they went to New York and they were on Broadway. Rance and his mom. They drove across the country. The children are born. Ron starts at three. I meet him when he is 18. I am 27. I am from parents that escaped the Holocaust in Germany. Living in New York City. He is from farmers in Oklahoma. we were like touched by the universe there was a string between us i didn't have to tell him what i was going to do he didn't tell me what he was going to do we just were in the same space at the

36:04Rich Eisen:same moment it it's rare you're talking about on the happy days on happy days and in life and in life yeah right and clearly he was doing voiceovers you were acting in arrested development right and who was producing. It was his company. That's right. It's not lost on me whenever that happens. It's pretty cool. It is so cool that I'm still at the table. It's so cool. Very much so. Not just a small part of the table. You were at the table, sir. No doubt about that. It is a wonderful thing. Do you have any memorabilia in your house? You know what? I saved one thing. What'd you say? There was a shelf of plywood.

36:43You cannot hear my stomach. My stomach is telling a story at the same time. There was a shelf of plywood right outside Arnold's where we would put our water bottle or our cup of coffee down before we made an entrance during a rehearsal. And I wrote on that piece of plywood. Today, we're starting the sixth year. Ron Howard just had a redheaded daughter. A few months later, I had a redheaded daughter. you know he he said to Stacy and I my wife he said we're gonna move from California across the country we think it's better to bring up children in the east would you take the children if anything happens to us oh my goodness and I said absolutely he said there will be money to take care of each one.

37:35So we were going to, we're in charge. And yeah, Bryce Dallas Howard is an unbelievable actress and director, is our godchild.

37:46Rich Eisen:Wow. And everybody's doing well. The money's in the banana stand, right? Yes. Unbelievable. The Bluth family. It's always there. That's what I've heard. That's great. You're the best, Henry. Thank you for coming here. I'm so happy I got to be here. Can I get you something to eat? You know what? I'm going to have something on the way out. I just want to say J.J. Redick, you know, he and his family are part of our family circle. I didn't know that. And I just wanted to say next year is your year. Okay. Do you have a prediction? It sounds like LeBron is re-signing here in Los Angeles. Is that true?

38:19Rich Eisen:That's the word that he's talking contract with the Lakers. Yes, sir. You know what? The fact is he is great. Wherever he goes is great. We are great that we had him for a little while. Maybe he'll be back. he's very tall. How about getting, how about he gets the chicken dish too? If LeBron, if Mr. James, if King James wanted to come to my house for a chicken dinner, he could bring the family. Maybe the Lakers should throw that in and that'll be the finisher. That'll close it. Absolutely knock it right off the edge. That'll close it. Great to see you. Thank you. Henry Winkler, everybody. New episodes of Hazardous History with Henry Winkler every Sunday night through September 6th.

39:02Rich Eisen:on the History Channel. We're back to wrap up this show in just a moment. Yay!

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41:47Rich Eisen:Billy Joel. All right, hit it. Is there any added level of pressure that comes with understanding what you have here? I hope so. I hope so. I think that's great. You know, put pressure on guys. I love it. I thrive in it. We'll find out who else does. I know that we have the kind of people that want to be in that spot. I want everybody talking about the Bengals. I want everybody talking about what I'm saying in my press conferences. You go back and watch what I said before. 2019 season at LSU, I feel very similarly about this team. I'm so excited to get started and get moving. I wish we would ramp this right into training camp so we can continue to improve because I feel like there's so much greatness that we're going to be able to achieve this year.

42:49I'm just excited to get going.

42:50Rich Eisen:Man, that is the most antsy I've ever seen. He can't sit still. Normally, he's just like, you know, Joe Cool. I'm like, okay, yeah. Let's go. He makes diamonds, whatever he wanted to say. He's fired up. Joe Burrow, MVP. He couldn't sit still. I'm serious. Nine to one. I've never seen him like that. Hey, Joe, you want people talking about it? He said, put all of the pressure on me. I want everybody talking about it. He would put pressure on other people. Let's go. He wants the pressure. He wants that smoke. All the smoke. He's talking to Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, all these other AFC quarterbacks that haven't done Jack.

43:30Rich Eisen:So it's not me. It's you. I'm not feeling pressure. You should feel pressure. He's talking about the other people on his team. That's what he's talking about. Not like take it out on my colleagues. this guy over here. I mean, that's what you wanted him to say. I know. That was what I heard. No, because you want to already... Write it down. We'll do it for you tomorrow. Quarterback under the most pressure. Come on, man. Oh, we'll do it. Write it down for tomorrow. He probably already has his pre-rig. I'm talking to him. Why don't you power rank him tomorrow? What are we doing? He wrote this a month ago.

44:03Rich Eisen:I got 20... That's right. 31 of them. Okay. Okay. Let's do that. Jack in Columbus, Ohio wants to chime in. Perfect. Perfect. Jack, what's up, Jack? Hey, Rich. How you doing? Congrats on the Knicks win. Thank you. I had a lot to do with it. Yes. Well, my dad's a longtime Knicks fan, so I'm happy to see him win in all of New York, too. Jack, I've only got a couple minutes left for you, brother. So what do you want to do? Do you want to do what you told Adam, our call screener, you want to do? Yeah, I would love to do the win-loss game for the Bengals. There you go. Joe, okay, you just heard Joe had to say.

44:39Rich Eisen:He wants all the added pressure. He wants all the smoke. What happens when Baker Mayfield pays a week one visit? You know, we don't start off very strong, but I think we're going to change that. It's going to be a win. 1-0 at the Texans. That defense is tough. That's going to be a loss. 1-1 at the Steelers. Mr. Rogers, Aaron Rogers, Los Angeles Dodgers, we're sweeping the Steelers. My goodness. All right, Jaguars at Cincinnati. What happens? That's a win. You're at the Dolphins at 3-1. Easy win. You're at the Ravens, 4-1. We're going to split with the Ravens, so at there I'm going to take a loss.

45:15Rich Eisen:4-2, home for the Titans. 4-2, that's going to be a win. Okay, you're hooked on Phonics in Madrid against the Falcons. I don't like the international game. Falcons have a good offense. I'm going to take a loss. 5-3, home for the Steelers on Sunday night football. I already know that's a win. 6-3 at the Commanders on a Monday night. That's a win. taking the Monday Night Curse away. 7-3 hosting the Saints. Win. 8-3 at the Browns. No more Garrett. Don't have to worry about it. That's a win. Which Garrett? Is that Miles? 9-3. Chiefs at the Bengals. We dominated Chiefs in the regular season. That's a win.

45:56Rich Eisen:10-3 at the Panthers. Sneaky game, but I think we see it out. That's a win. 11-3 at the Colts. That's a win. 12-3, home for the Ravens on a Thursday night. I'm going to say a win on Thursday. All right, 13-3, home for the Browns. Yeah, another win. 14-3, says Jack in Columbus. Rich, can I ask one more question real quick? Real quick. Do you know how many days it's been since November 29, 2025? Just curious. Jack, I have to hang up on you now. Thanks, Rich. Appreciate it. That was pretty funny. I don't know the days, Jack. That's the second 14-3 we've gotten. We've gotten the 13-4 and two 14-3s for the Bengals.

46:45Rich Eisen:Joe Burrow is antsy. Joe Burrow wants to welcome in the Buccaneers for week one tomorrow. He wants it yesterday. I love that sound by Joe. We're going to talk about your press conferences because you want that added pressure. So do we. So do we. So do we. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to The Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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Hall of Fame sportscaster Marv Albert and Rich discuss the Knicks’ breaking their 53-year NBA title drought, and relives the night in 1994 when he called the NBA Finals Game 5 during OJ Simpson’s infamous white Bronco slow speed chase.

Actor Henry Winkler joins Rich in-studio to plug the new season of his History Channel ‘Hazardous History’ show, updates the status of his open invitation to Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes to have dinner at his house, reveals if he actually jumped a shark in that famous (infamous??) episode of ‘Happy Days,’ and shares his fondest moments from his ‘Arrested Development’ days.

Rich and the guys debate the realistic expectations for Joe Burrrow and the Cincinnati Bengals this season.
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