In short
Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show covers NFL storylines: Browns QB Jauan “Shador” Sanders controversy, Bengals’ playoff push with Joe Burrow’s return, and the Panthers’ rise plus Rams/Stafford struggles. It also includes heated postgame/locker-room comments involving Juwan Jennings, Miles Garrett, and Shelby Harris, and a Cam Hayward/Josh Allen physicality clip.
Guests
No named guests appear in this hour’s transcript (it’s mostly host + callers + soundbites). Notable voices include Joe Burrow (soundbite), Miles Garrett (soundbite), Shelby Harris (soundbite), and Cam Hayward (soundbite). A caller is “Jackie in Virginia” and another caller is “Noah in Portland, Oregon” (Panthers discussion), plus “Terzo” (49ers).
Key claims
Burrow’s return coincides with Cincinnati’s defensive dominance (14 points allowed, five takeaways) and keeps them “two games out.” The Browns’ offense/decision-making is questioned, and Jennings is accused of provoking defenders. Rams are still strong despite turnovers and road issues; McVay’s subdued comments are framed as “adversity.”
Notable examples
Christian McCaffrey ties Marshall Faulk with a third 800+ rushing and 800+ receiving season. Stafford’s streak of 28 straight TD passes without an interception ends before two interceptions help Carolina beat the Rams.
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Chapters
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1:30 to 2:14
Discussion of the show's earlier segments and upcoming guests.
“My voice is raising an octave, it's so crazy.”
Analysis of NFL Teams
2:14 to 4:38
Insights on various NFL teams, performances, and coaching strategies.
“your eye gate to use the michael irvin phrase um there's our youtube channel youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show.”
Shadour's Performance and Media Scrutiny
4:38 to 7:56
Discussion on Shadour Sanders' performance and media questioning.
“He's going to wind up in Ohio at the end of the day.”
Call from Jackie in Virginia
7:56 to 12:20
Listener call discussing frustrations with Shadour's performance and the Browns.
“Rodgers, he didn't call it a rude question, but he did say, I know where you're going.”
Bengals and Playoff Sniffing
12:20 to 14:00
Discussion on the Bengals' playoff status and other NFL teams' performances.
“which is going to be home against Tennessee, a one-win team.”
Joe Burrow's Impact on Bengals Season
14:00 to 17:08
Exploration of Joe Burrow's return and its implications for the Bengals' playoff chances.
“But there is a team from Ohio that is, in fact, at 4-8, somehow, someway, sniffing it.”
Discussion on Bengals' Season Status
17:08 to 18:08
A debate on whether the Bengals' season is still alive with Burrow back.
“We haven't seen what we saw defensively on that Thanksgiving night in seven years.”
Joe Burrow's Performance Recap
18:08 to 19:49
Recap of Joe Burrow's performance, including his thoughts on knocking off rust.
“Is the season over for the Cincinnati Bengals?”
Redemption Stories in Sports
19:49 to 22:42
Discussion on redemption narratives in sports, including Burrow's journey.
“It would be on par of Lane Kiffin winning at LSU.”
Listener Call-In: Panthers Update
26:51 to 28:00
Listener shares thoughts on the Panthers' recent performance and atmosphere.
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Carolina Panthers' Progress and Playoff Potential
28:00 to 29:20
Analysis of the Panthers' performance and potential playoff chances.
“Caleb Williams is just everybody's looking like they're just having fun right now and I feel like at this point the whole oh you got beat by the Panthers, oh, you look at the Panthers, do you this way?”
Rams' Struggles Against Carolina
29:20 to 32:20
Discussion on the Rams' recent game struggles and Stafford's performance.
“And sure enough, what's happened there with Canales and the team is working.”
Sean McVay's Leadership and Rams' Future
32:20 to 40:47
Exploration of McVay's approach to handling team adversity and future outlook.
“Carolina now hits the bye, 7-6 above 500, and can absolutely win this division.”
Sean McVay's Leadership and Rams' Future
40:49 to 41:16
Exploration of McVay's approach to handling team adversity and future outlook.
“The holidays are all about connection and speakers make every moment sound amazing.”
Listener Call: Lane Kiffin and Niners Update
41:16 to 42:00
Listener's perspective on coaching changes in college football and Niners' bye week.
“today only so get to sonos.com right now you will not regret it 844-204-RICH uh number to dial uh Terzo and I have been hanging on since we came on the air.”
Controversy Surrounding Juwan Jennings
42:00 to 43:40
Discussion about the tensions between Juwan Jennings and the Cleveland Browns players.
“and then he uses Ole Miss to get LSU players better?”
Player Reactions and Heated Moments
43:40 to 46:48
Analysis of players' reactions during the game and the rising tensions in the NFL.
“browns right and um let's hear from miles garrett first up you know he plays wherever he wants He's mostly on the end.”
Transcript
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1:27Now, on with the show. Hell, hell, hell, yeah!
1:32Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. My voice is raising an octave, it's so crazy. Live from The Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Talked to God and told me it's time to take a new step. It's a new chapter. The Rich Eisen Show, coming up on today's show. College football roundup, Monday night football preview, plus your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. hour number three of the rich eyes and show is on the air 844-204-riches and the number now we've had a lively first two hours um overreaction monday a lively version of that um is available however you take in your podcast uh certainly if you take an overreaction monday with your uh with your eye gate to use the michael irvin phrase um there's our youtube channel youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show.
2:26Rich Eisen:All of our podcasts are on that page as well, or channel. ESPN 2 airs a cut-down version, 4.30 Eastern every single Monday during the football season. We're greatly appreciative of that. I'm told that all three hours of this show is on ESPN 2 tomorrow as part of the Giving Tuesday portion of the ESPN calendar. We're honored to be part of that. We're tied tomorrow. Scott Van Pelt is on the show, and so is Jim Kelly. Oh, nice. All right. Talk to him about. Let's go. Didn't Steve Tasker tell a story about how he used to have a bar in his house or something like that? In his basement. I looked up the pictures, and it was pretty massive.
3:03Rich Eisen:You think he remembers doing the bartender thing for us? For us at the Hall of Fame? Hall of Fame. How would he not? That was so awesome. I mean, the only way you wouldn't remember it is that if it's a regular occurrence. He was a little too deep when he was doing it. We were all too deep that night, honestly. Because he was serving it. That's so fun. Anyway, Jim Kelly's on Tuesday's show. He wasn't measuring the drinks out. What do they call those little cylinder cups? What's the official word for? There must be some bartenders out there who want to call 844-204-RICH. I think Jim was eyeing it.
3:35Yeah, he was using the eyeball test. He was like, yeah, that's not enough.
3:42Rich Eisen:That's enough. It was actually Giving Friday, I believe, at the point of the weekend. So fun. Just a different giving. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. Uh, start number two for Shadour didn't go as well as start number one, a different opponent. I believe San Francisco in your house, the 49ers had not won in Cleveland since 1984. We talked about that on the program last week. Um, and, uh, the Niners man, bang, bang Niners gang, nine and four. They're nine and four. And this is a, this could be Mike Shanahan's tour de force as well. Right. I mean, pardon me. Kyle Shanahan's tour de force right now.
4:22Rich Eisen:He's coaching his ass off, man. He really is. And I know that's like manhole covers for you. Yeah, for sure. I mean, Mac Jones keeping it afloat. Brock Purdy doing his dancing in the end zone. Using his legs. And Christian McCaffrey. How many times have I got to tell you he's a Hall of Famer? He's going to wind up in Ohio at the end of the day. He really is. He now has over 500. Hold on a minute. Let me get this fact correct here. because he just did another thing that only Marshall Falk has done. So let me get this fact correct because I like being factual. Here we go. Marshall Falk has only done this.
5:04Rich Eisen:Christian McCaffrey has his third season in his career with 800 or more rushing yards and 800 or more receiving yards. That ties Marshall Falk for the most. Rich, that's new Southern University head coach, Marshall Falk. That's right, 2A. We see you. Let's say that the right way. Congratulations. Love it. So cool. I couldn't be happier for him. He's being introduced today at 145. Outstanding. Love it. I don't know. Should we do like an NIL deal for him or something like that? Offer up an RE consulting NIL deal for him? I think that's mandatory. Yeah. I'll tell him. We'll give you a Manischewitz NIL.
5:47Rich Eisen:That's something I think he would find funny. At any rate, congratulations to him. And Christian McCaffrey, bro. And they came out with some sacks, and obviously they got some big breaks, like Harold Fannin getting under center for a tush push that he fumbled inside the 30-yard line of Cleveland in a one-score game that made a big difference. Shador, of course, was asked about his coach's decision-making. This guy is... Why are we doing that to him? Because I'm trying to set my man up. excuse me Aaron Rodgers was asked a similar question about practices Aaron Rodgers, Shador like come on I'm just saying it's not something the media doesn't do to other people just saying yeah but you know and earlier this week he was asked about his relationship right and uh with Stefanski and didn't he tell the guy like or he's asked about the sabotaging because you're trying to stir stuff up, huh?
6:47Rich Eisen:All right, so Shador, what do you think about your coach's decision-making? Get out of here. Hit it. Two forks and ones that didn't work. And did you like Kevin having the aggressiveness there even backed up in your territory? I mean, first, that's a rude question to ask. If I think, you know, it was a great call by my coach, you know? Do you like the aggression? Do you like the call? I like being out there playing. So whatever that comes with, it comes with, you know? Like, you know, we're not going to be here and ever point and figure out no coach or do anything like that. You know, that's extremely disrespectful, and that's not even in my place.
7:23So I'm thankful for being out there, honestly, and I'm thankful that he trusts us as an offense to be able to go out there and be able to execute. Did we execute? No, we didn't. But, you know, I'm just thankful that we have that trust.
7:36Rich Eisen:I mean, could you imagine if he had said something along with like, yeah, I was wondering why was coach doing that? I don't like being aggressive. I like being smart. Punt there and give him another chance. Our defense is much better than the offense right now with me as quarterback. Honestly. I mean, I know who his dad is. He knows how to handle that. But in all fairness, Aaron Rodgers was asked about the practicing in the week leading up to a loss. Rodgers, he didn't call it a rude question, but he did say, I know where you're going. You want me to rag on Mike Tomlin? I'm not going to do that.
8:12you know even though both guys probably would have been fair to you know
8:19Rich Eisen:speak the truth so to speak. Miles Garrett got a sack one he's got 19 30 calls. We'll see how many Brian Burns gets tonight. Brian Burns needs two more to overtake for second place or at least three more. Let's put it this way to overtake second place in the sacks race from Miles Garrett over the last six weeks. I think Drake May is the second most sacked quarterback. We'll see what Brian Burns does tonight. And we'll see what Cleveland does the rest of the way here. Personally, you know, I don't know. Fourth most. You've got to take the pulse check of the locker room. They want Dylan. They want Sador Sanders.
8:59Rich Eisen:What do you want to do, Kevin? Or does Kevin just want to go coach the Giants? I'll be honest with you. Yeah. I think a lot of people are going to want that giant. I kind of think so, too. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. I shouldn't be so flippant. On the subject matter, I think we made this internet auntie Instagram famous after she called in saying she only wants to watch the Browns when Shador Sanders starts. Jackie in Virginia is back in the program. How are you, Jackie?
9:33Rich Eisen:You there, Jackie? Yes, I'm here. Hi, Jackie. I don't know if you're watching on TV or whatever. If you are, turn the sound down so we can have a conversation. Okay, let me turn the sound down. You got it. We're going to be very patient with our internet auntie. What's going on, Jackie? Well, let me tell you. I wasn't happy with Shador Performance. And he got to get that ball out his hands quicker. and this guy, Jerry Jutry or whoever he is, had the nerve to, like, you know, go over and get into your door face. He knew the camera was going to be on him. But I'm like, dude, you couldn't catch a ball if I super glued it to your hands.
10:25So why are you in the quarterback space? You could have waited until you got to the locker room. Just have some tag by yourself. that's all I'm saying well let me just let me just say this before you continue on and I'll
10:38Rich Eisen:let you continue on is over the years that I've been covering this league uh Jackie sometimes when you see a receiver being demonstrative like that um I I don't know if it's to berate him it did look like that there's been many times where it looks like a receiver is creating a problem and all he was doing was just trying to be supportive but uh I may be giving him the benefit of the doubt. And the Browns may be calling you for your superglue there in Virginia at the end of the day. But please go on. Rich, you're being very nice. Okay. You're being very, very nice. Okay, Jackie. Let's just call it like we see it.
11:19Rich Eisen:Okay. He cannot hold on to a ball. And he was getting into dual faith. And Auntie Jackie just didn't like it. Okay. What other observations you have? And that old line. Oh, my goodness. Lord, help them. I tell you, I almost had a heart attack. Oh, come on now. I cannot watch this game and like, you know, sit down and be peaceful. That's why I have to watch the game in my house because I'm up screaming and stuff. So I can't go to other people's house and watch a football game because I don't know how to be calm. But I tell you, I almost lost my turkey over this game. I know, and that's the issue here.
12:11Rich Eisen:Jackie, thanks for the call. Call back again. I mean, let's hope for your sake and for obviously Shador's sake that he does get the next start for Cleveland, which is going to be home against Tennessee, a one-win team. Shador versus Cam Ward. As you know, there's a very famous moment during the evaluation process where Shador wanted to rap with Cam, and Cam basically said, you know, I'm a professional. I don't do that sort of stuff. I'm here for football. Right? I would be fun if it's Shador and Cam Ward going for that one win that both of them could use for their second win of the season. Shador going for his second in three games.
12:56Rich Eisen:I just don't know. if he's going to want to see more from Dylan Gabriel in the rest of the way or what the Browns are thinking. I don't have an answer for you on that. All I know is that going into this game after the Bengals beat the Ravens on Thursday night to wrap up Thanksgiving, I do know this, that going into the weekend after the Bengals beat the Ravens and the Steelers were getting set to take on the Bills, who did in fact knock the Steelers back to 6-6, we did see the Browns for a brief bit in the hunt columns on other playoff picture graphics put together by our colleagues around the league.
13:48Rich Eisen:As you know, around the Rich Eisen show, it's called Sniffin' It. Do you sniff the playoffs? Because you're in the air. It's the aroma of the playoffs in your nasal vicinity. That's why we say sniffing it. And now the Browns aren't there. But there is a team from Ohio that is, in fact, at 4-8, somehow, someway, sniffing it. Now, a lot of people thought I've been the one sniffing something. Something. And I picked the wrong week. To stop. When I was saying when Burrow went down, here comes Jake Browning. Season's not over because in the previous season where Burrow went out, Jake Browning came in and actually performed well.
14:42Rich Eisen:He won games. And I thought he would be the guy to do it again. Especially since I do listen to our friend Jordan Palmer when he comes on this program. It makes a lot of sense. and he was saying Browning's got the experience in college and he could do it again I thought I was wrong then Flacco gets acquired in October I said again what I said in September the season's not over for the Cincinnati Bengals well yada yada yada Flacco won only once in his place of Joe Burrow my take of the season's not over looked pretty silly then I said in November hey listen nobody's running away with it you could say that's higher register that the season still isn't over so now that it's December you take a look at the standings in the National Football League's American Football Conference North Division who's just two games back who's just two games back with the Ravens and the Steelers playing each other this week and Joe Burrow back for the Bengals going into the spot where he once upon a time ended a Bills season and reportedly allegedly a bromance between Josh Allen and Stephon Diggs that would be western New York oh the Bengals and you know it's not just burrow on offense it's amazing what a franchise quarterbacks return can just do for everyone we call it a halo effect
16:40but Cincinnati
16:41Rich Eisen:against a Ravens team that just has a quarterback is now three straight games with no touchdowns. But that said, this Ravens offense, no matter how much they've struggled, was going against the Bengals defense that couldn't stop a cold. A season low 14 points, the Bengals defense gave up. And a season high five takeaways. Their plus four turnover margin was the best in a single game by the Bengals since week 8, 2018. We haven't seen what we saw defensively on that Thanksgiving night in seven years. Way back when Joe Burrow was just a kid putting on a LeBron jersey and taking selfies in the mirror.
17:29Rich Eisen:Way before he went to the Ohio State, before they told him to beat it. Listen.
17:37These Bengals are two games out. I don't care about the circumstances that caused me to say the season's not over.
17:47Rich Eisen:Might have been highly inaccurate about why I felt that way, but at the end of the day, TJ Jefferson, I ask you, is the season over for the Cincinnati Bengals? As of right now, December 1st, 2025, two games out, Joe Burrow is back. Is the season over for the Bengals? I mean, technically, no. Thank you. I'm going to be technical about it. Chris Brockman. Hey. Is the season over for the Cincinnati Bengals? You know, it probably speaks to more about the teams ahead of them. Excuse me? No, it's not. It is not. Joe Burrow, speak. I don't even care what the setup to the soundbite is. I want to hear his voice.
18:30Rich Eisen:Hit it. Yeah, folks, great. You know, obviously. Had to knock some rust off there in the first half. You know, I thought second half, I started to put it more where I wanted and settled in a little bit. Certainly missed some throws early that I typically make. But, you know, after that, I felt pretty comfortable back there. I thought the whole line did great. We ran it well. Obviously, defense played great. So I'm just going to keep getting better. That's right. He's throwing it through Hudson and Yoshivas, which sounds like the Tango and Cash sequel or the Rizzoli and Isles. What do you think?
19:08Rich Eisen:I couldn't concentrate on what he said because I was looking at his jacket. You bet, man. You bet. Look at that. That jacket season is just up. I need that jacket. That's right. With the hair. Joe Burrow. Work your hand through the hair. Wow. I mean. Yeah, man. Burrow's back, baby. Zoolander 3. He is back. Bangled. Feeling it? Hudson and Yoshivas. I think you'd call them if you're getting into an accident. following Rizzoli and Al. Guess what? They're on a bus. They have billboards on sunset. Season is not over. Oh, no. If I'm ultimately correct at the end of the day, oh, my God. Name me another redemption story.
19:56Rich Eisen:It's the same. Carol from The Walking Dead. Name it. I don't get that reference. You got to see Walking Dead. It would be on par of Lane Kiffin winning at LSU. Name me another redemption story from the ashes. Right? It is not over. Ben Affleck finding love with someone named Jennifer. He beats the Bills, okay, and the Ravens beat the Steelers. Possible? Possible. See, if the Steelers handled business, it wouldn't be over. The reason, what I'm saying is that if the Steelers, they've already played them. They've already played them. All they would have to do, okay, so they'd still be two back. is keep winning, beat the Ravens one other time, and have the Ravens lose to, say, New England.
20:43Rich Eisen:That's possible. I know you think that's possible. I would say it's better at all. Right? Or the Ravens losing to Philadelphia and all. Right? All they got to do is sweep the Ravens. Right? That's it. sweep the Ravens and then have the Ravens slip up when they don't. That's all. And they're at Miami, home for Arizona, home for Cleveland the rest of the way. Get out of here. How big is this game in Western New York? Not for the Bills, for the Bengals' chances, but most importantly, for my redemption story. Worst take I've had since coming back to ESPN. The most grief I've gotten for it. could eventually be proven correct that the season was in fact not over because you kept doubling down on it that's why you kept getting on thanksgiving day game day morning we have the jive turkey segment okay where we either gobble gobble a take that we've had by saying we're going to still double down on the take or say we're jive turkey for having that take.
22:00Rich Eisen:For instance, I think they had Gerald taking the Chargers out of the playoffs and putting the Raiders in in our pre-season show. Just to give you an example of the takes that our producers will try to clown us with. They had a montage of me saying the season's not over from this chair on this show from September, October, November. Want to talk about quadrupling down? This is now the fourth straight month I've said this. And by January, I could be proven correct. Oh, my goodness gracious. Redemption. Or they could lose the bills. I might spend the money to get the rights to that Bob Marley song.
22:47Better send those refunds. I'm not sure if we can afford that, Rich. I know that. That's Robert.
22:52Rich Eisen:That's Robert. We probably need to get together and start TJ Plusson. We could do that. Listen. Oh, how great would that be? For you and us. It's a halo effect. I told you. For you, too. I've said this a few times. We've been robbed of Joe Burrow not being out there this season. So it was great to see him back. Have him in Buffalo with the Bills coming in 8-4? Is that a hello, Jim, game? It might be. I don't know. I have no idea. There's so many big games. There's a lot of possibilities. But the Patriots are on a bye. You know, this is the one game the Bills are playing while the Patriots are off.
23:35Rich Eisen:Oh, wait, here we go. Oh, baby. Right? It's got to be. It's got to be right. I mean, talk about exciting. Or as Romo said yesterday, a fresh of breath air. No, Romo's in Baltimore with Nance. Shears Ravens. Okay. All right. Maybe Ian and J.J. Watt get that assignment, huh? That's a plum assignment. Is it Fox? Is it Brady? It's Fox. It's Joe Davis and Greg Olson. Okay. All right. Fun. Oh, that's right. They give games. They don't do it. I think the Packers and the Bears are going to get it. Packers, Bears, Bears, Bears. Packers, Burkhart, and Brady. Burkhart, Brady, Andrews. I'm telling you, week 14 is deep and playable.
24:18Rich Eisen:Take a break. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. Phone calls when we come back. Oh, my God. I wish I could do this again. You could. You could. Just listen to Dion.
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26:50Rich Eisen:Back here on the ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance on Disney Plus and the ESPN app as well. Overreaction Monday, the pod is there for your consuming once we're done here. Chris Brockman and I did it before today's program. Noah in Portland, Oregon's been hanging on for a while, Line 4, Mikey. Noah, what's up? Hey, guys, how you doing? What's going on, man? Hey, before I get into my Panthers, which I won't be insufferable by any means. Be careful. I've heard Mariota's name so many times that I've never heard it in my life pronounced like that, and I feel like they were just doing a goof.
27:24Rich Eisen:No, it's not a goof. As soon as I heard it and I heard them repeat it over and over again, I'm like, that sounds like something that they asked him, how is your name pronounced? And he said it. And when you heard him introduce himself in the offense, Mariota. Mariota. I must have missed that then what's on your mind Noah? The Panthers man and again I'm not going to go crazy I'm not going to be like oh we're going to the Super Bowl we're doing all this but there's been such a drastic change in that atmosphere Caleb Williams is just everybody's looking like they're just having fun right now and I feel like at this point the whole oh you got beat by the Panthers, oh, you look at the Panthers, do you this way?
28:14I feel like that's over, because if you can get got, I think we're gonna get you.
28:19Rich Eisen:Well, they've gotten some this year, that's for sure, and they've gotten more than they've been gotten. They're above 500 right now, and the last time they were above 500 through 13 games was 2017, when they started 9-4, finished 11-5, and they got one and done at New Orleans in 2017, but they made the playoffs, which is something they could possibly do here and at the end of the day noah um they've got two of three uh against tampa to finish the season and it's interesting thanks for the call noah but you said that it looks like they're having fun because when kurt warner yours truly nfl network crew did panthers and giants in um munich last year right um that wound up being daniel jones's final start as a giant and um we were talking to both bryce young and dave canalis prior to the game i remember we we uh we went to their hotel there in munich we did it face to face and i talked about bryce young and his sabbatical i said when you went on your sabbatical and he smiled and he looks at me goes i like that word and i'm like well it's kind of what you did right i mean you got benched and the panthers really didn't want us to linger on him being benched because if you recall at the time we were all and i thought at the time rightfully saying he should ask out new coach there has never done it before you know an owner who's got a reputation for being impetuous and how's it going to work?
29:59And sure enough, what's happened there with Canales
30:03Rich Eisen:and the team is working. And for Noah and Portland to say, you know what, it looks like they're having fun. Dave Canales said that he said the sign when it's going to turn, the sign that he's looking for is that when the team's personality, the player's personality comes out on the field in their play is what he said so for a panthers fan to call in and say it looks like they're having fun it looks like canalis's analysis is happening and is working and i don't know if they're going to make the playoffs I just know that they are 7-6, and they now head off on their bye week, while the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have a home game against New Orleans and then a home game against Atlanta on a short week to kick off week 15, and that's when the Buccaneers will host Tampa in week 16 before hosting Seattle in week 17 and finishing up at Tampa.
31:17the Falcons are out, unfortunately, for Atlanta.
31:21Rich Eisen:It's now a division that could be won by Carolina 100 % off their bye. They visit New Orleans. Then they've got two against Tampa around a huge game with Seattle coming in. Because Seattle's going to win that. I mean, going to need to win that, I mean. and Bryce Young is 100 % playing well at home look at the look at the games they lost their first three on the road before winning at the Jets while they were getting Atlanta Miami and Dallas at home then they go to Green Bay and surprise everybody that's when the fire LaFleur chants were beginning to be heard right that's right they win in Atlanta in a game where they forced overtime they were down and then they just beat the rams man and that's they just beat the los angeles rams and they picked off matthew stafford two possessions in a row but not before stafford broke the record for most consecutive touchdown passes without an interception a record he entered this game tied with tom brady for it 27 he threw his 28th touchdown pass in a row without an interception surprisingly hit davante adams for the first of two times in this game and and then he threw two picks and that's when you knew things were maybe not going to be as easy for the rams as potentially we thought with the rams coming into this game as the i think widely believed best team in football yeah one of those picks was in the end zone yeah and so uh give it up to carolina because they didn't have horn and they didn't have trevon marig because he hit the forbidden speed bag and of Juwan Jennings who we'll get to in a second before we're done here today they got the third turnover of Stafford was the game ender because it looked like the Rams in a seesaw back and forth battle were going to score again forcing Carolina to go down the field to try and win it and instead they turned Stafford over and wrapped the game up on a fumble and give it up.
33:39Rich Eisen:Carolina now hits the bye, 7-6 above 500, and can absolutely win this division. I called them my sleeper team in the NFC coming in. Didn't look good early on. I thought it was Rico Dattle was the guy. Chuba Hubbard. Huge game yesterday. Indeed. So they got the running game, and Tech McMillan is now currently the odds-on favorite for Tedaroa McMillan for Offensive Rookie of the Year. Yeah, he is. Okay. scoring touchdowns that was his only catch right and Bryce Young with his second three touchdown no interception game of the year he had only one such game in his first two years in the league and he's got seven wins this year he had only six wins in the first two years in the league so his sabbatical is now turning into a potential playoff season for the first overall selection not too shabby as for the Rams i'm not giving up on them these things happen you go west to east early window seattle's been able to nail that they win a lot of these games i think they've won a bunch in a row as a matter of fact in the eastern time zone and the rams you know i guess that we're going going west to east it works for them going from los angeles to baltimore and then baltimore to london but from LA to Carolina with Carolina, by the way, on a short week they were in San Francisco.
35:07Rich Eisen:They probably landed from their Monday night loss in San Francisco Tuesday morning. Rams get there and two interceptions in a row, things began to get sideways. Then it started to rain and they couldn't stop the run. And then they couldn't stop McMillan who came out with a massive touchdown. You know, a difficult day for Emmanuel Forbes. But I'm just going to place this in the these things happen category. And if the Rams don't miss kicks and if they don't turn it over on the road, you know, they're going to win a large percentage of the time. and they are still in first place in the nfc west because they have that win on seattle they visit arizona which has lost a bunch in a row before welcoming in detroit the thursday kickoff to week 16 i mean prime video they are fired up they've got rams at seattle and they've got a christmas game chiefs hosting denver and back-to-back weeks in week 16 and 17 but la has a Monday nighter at Atlanta, which should have the U-Haul backed up at that point in time.
36:30Rich Eisen:And Kirk Cousins, I mean, is potentially going to have a long night with that pass rush coming at him and then home for Arizona. I'm not nervous. I'm not concerned. I still think they're one of the best teams in the league. Will they lead my power rankings? Probably not. They lost on the road, but you know, the one thing I'm concerned about is Sean McVay sounded subdued and pessimistic after. I'm told it's the exact opposite. This is football. You've got to be able to handle some tough moments. Our team and the people in that locker room are made of the right kind of stuff. We've dealt with adversity before.
37:06We'll deal with it again and we'll handle it the right way. I can't wait to lean in. Sometimes when things go well, these can be blessings in disguise if you use them the right way. You didn't want it to happen. We came out here with the expectation to win the football game. It didn't go down like that for us. and now we get a chance to be able to move forward and see how we handle a little bit of a challenge. And it's been a while since we felt this way.
37:28Rich Eisen:And by the way, he's being consistent. He told us this pre-broadcast meeting between Rams and Jaguars when Puka was out saying, do we want this to happen? No, but these negatives can be blessings in disguise. He's like, maybe we need to, we've been too Puka dependent. Let's see what we can do. Would you do me a favor, Chris? Would you call up the game log of Devontae Adams from that London game on? Do me that favor. While Matthew Stafford went on that roll of 28 consecutive touchdowns without an interception. As a matter of fact, when they trailed in this game, they had trailed in for the first time since that game in which Puka got hurt.
38:12Rich Eisen:But they wound up winning in Baltimore. more he said let's see what we can do offensively without leaning on puka so much would you mind yeah since telling me that uh since that that game including the london game uh devante adams has 11 touchdowns and then there's a bunch of tight ends you've never heard of or you're beginning to hear here and quorum scored a touchdown tyron if uh five catches in every game except uh seattle stay healthy my friends that's all rams also still the favorite to win the super bowl by a wide margin these things happen these things happen i'll just say this to screw it uh because i did uh on my thanksgiving mulligan got off the lions got on the rams to beat the chiefs i do have one more mulligan oh i mean okay i don't know why you're you're sticking with the chiefs but i understand this was before they lost in to in dallas by the way um those uh you NFL films, America's game, documentaries they still make every year on the champions of the Super Bowl.
39:16Rich Eisen:Every single one of those has a moment of adversity when long flights home. Games they lost they shouldn't have. And at the end of the day, maybe losing in Carolina, as our caller, who is a Panthers fan, just said, is no shame. All right. when we come back, some more phone calls, and then Jawan Jennings being called a garden tool. Is that what he's referring to? A different version of that? A shovel?
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41:29Rich Eisen:What's up, Terzo? Yo, what up, fellas? Hey, Rich. Before I talk about the Niners, I do want to kind of mention something about Lane Kiffin. I just hated how this situation played out, and they've got to change the rules where these coaches aren't leaving at the end of the season. It's just not fair to the fans of those universities and to them kids. Well, they could leave at the end of the season. Leave at the end of the season if you want. But to basically make the situation here and now, And Ole Miss had to be forced? What, are they going to let Lane sit around with a transfer portal open on January 2nd and then he uses Ole Miss to get LSU players better?
42:08Rich Eisen:Get out of here. That's absurd. It is absurd to do that. Yeah, it really is. And it just puts a black eye on the entire sport. Certainly, since you take a look at the last program that Brian Kelly left, Notre Dame has been hunky-dory. So why can't that happen to them? You know? Well, I'm sorry. What was on your mind, Terzo? No. I got stuck on that. No, so I just wanted to mention it was kind of nice that the Niners finally broke the streak and were able to win in Cleveland. It was a good game. Just happy to see them continue to chug along and happy that we finally got to our bye week to maybe see if we can get healthy somewhat.
42:47Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, if you could only get half the players that are on IR back with this bye week, but at least you hit the bye week. Thanks for the call, Terzo. Nine and four. Nine and four. Hitting that bye week, hoping that everybody else gets banged up or beaten up in the standings. And then when you come back, you've got Tennessee at home. And then you're at Indianapolis, which is reeling a little bit. Remember, they were my top team that I'm most concerned about how they're going to finish. Well, Daniel Jones dealing with a hairline fracture. Who knows, man? That Chicago home date on a Sunday night, the penultimate Sunday night of the season.
43:24that's called it's second to last for you thank you rich i did not know that eight four four two
43:29Rich Eisen:oh four rich is the number we finish up with a new segment what defensive tackles gone wild
43:38Rich Eisen:um we need to drop this man joan jennings apparently pissed off most of the cleveland browns right and um let's hear from miles garrett first up you know he plays wherever he wants He's mostly on the end. But sometimes we've seen him crossover, dribbling over the center. He had this to say about Juwan Jennings and what he was saying, I guess, to enrage these Browns defenders hit it. Well, I can't speak for how he was raised. But if you have nothing good to say, don't say something to somebody. So, you know, he had a lot to say that was demeaning and disparaging towards some of our players. and I was just trying to separate everybody.
44:20And, you know, I tried to go up and ask what the problem was and he started coming at me. And, I mean, some guys just roll like that. No, I don't feel like that belongs in the game. But, hey, if that works for him and them, then more power to them. But I'm just trying to keep my guys focused on the game and not worried about stuff outside of it because we're focused on what's on the field.
44:46Rich Eisen:I mean, if you're wondering what his major malfunction is, going at Miles Garrett is definitely a malfunction. That's a choice right there. The soundbite is talking about a Shelby Harris's reaction. He's a h***, and I want that known. I see why he got punched in the nuts. He says some things that you should not say to another man, ever. But I don't respect it because you say that, then run behind your O-line. That's some real soft s***, and I want that known. I see exactly why they punched the nuts. I'm surprised nobody punched him in the jaw yet. Wow. What's he saying? I don't know, man. I'm going to make some phone calls.
45:24Get the NFL films mic'd up. Somebody's got it. I'm going to text Nate Zagora. You know he knows.
45:29Rich Eisen:Man. Man. That's right. Okay. I'm surprised nobody punched him in the jaw. Did you see that moment where Walter Payton, man of the year, Cam Hayward's going at another Walter Payton, man of the year type individual and Josh Allen? Did you see that? You know, you said it earlier today on the pod, like, tensions are hot right now. Well, I guess. It's December. We're getting down the stretch here. I guess Josh Allen, according to Cam Hayward, is not above, you know, telling someone to get off him using a knee. Hit it. Cam, what happened with you with Josh Allen? You see the frustration early on. Can you talk about it?
46:10Being meed in my stomach. and then he's drawing back and forth and then you know he ticked off the entire game because as a quarterback they're protected but I'm not just pisses me off saying he needs you or someone else that's exactly what I'm saying did he cross the line throughout the game or was it at one incident that was at one incident was that on purpose by him yes he even said after you know I had to do something to get you off me whoa Another man who going after him is a choice.
46:44Rich Eisen:Yeah. Okay. And not a good one. Well, I mean, Allen, at least, like, I had to get you off me. And Juwan Jennings, according to Shelby Harris, is running behind his offensive line. I don't blame him for that. And causing Shelby to call him a garden tool. You know? Oof. Man. I'm just saying. It is that time of year. It is December, baby. Tensions are running high. I love it. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
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Rich recaps the San Francisco 49ers Week 13 win over the Browns, and Auntie Jackie from Virginia calls in to offer her spot-on assessment of Shedeur Sanders’ latest start for Cleveland, and explains why (for his own selfish reasons perhaps???) the Cincinnati Bengals’ playoff hopes are still alive with the return of Joe Burrow.
Rich reacts to the Carolina Panthers improving to 6-5 on the year with a Week 13 upset over the Los Angels Rams sparked by forcing 3 turnovers by Matthew Stafford.
The guys weigh in on the Browns’ en masse bashing of WR Jauan Jennings’ crossing-the-line trash talk in San Francisco’s win, just a week after the 49ers WR was punched in the nether region by Panthers DB Tre’von Moehrig.
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