Hour 3: MLB Week 1 Overreactions, Dallas Cowboys Optimism, plus Baseball Writer/Author Ken Davidoff

13:11Rich Eisen:And I'm just assuming that that does play into the conversation about 18-game schedule.

13:21Rich Eisen:The first one to talk, first owner to talk about it this week that I heard was Bob Craft. 18 games, two bye weeks, everyone plays at least once overseas or outside the country. International series. And so Jerry Jones on that subject. Hit it. My interpretation of the 18th game would be less preseason games. I like that. I think that's great for the players. Emphasize, great for the players. It increases the viability of the financial aspect more gate and more money for the players as well. I don't know if it helps the 53rd man on the roster for whom a preseason game I think is paramount. But when he's talking about more money for players, it would be thrown into the kitty of what's revenue shared.

14:22Rich Eisen:And the reason why it's more money and you're like, well, is that because the Euro's worth more than a dollar these days? No. And I'm thinking about this as somebody who calls a ton of overseas games. Fans, they're already into it. Yeah. They're quacking ducks too. Big time. By the way. Got to feed them. Got to feed them. And it's not Americans abroad or Americans living abroad. it's german-speaking people everywhere it's it's the real thing yeah for sure and so you you you know you want to feed that clearly and then when you create an 18 game schedule where week one is in melbourne week two is in you know paris week three is in ireland weeks four through seven is in london weeks eight through 10 is germany week 11 is paris week 12 is rome weeks 13 through 15 is somewhere in mexico yeah spain wherever where you know then you go to a television partner and say who wants the international package serve it up like which i imagine the ellisons own it who owns the travel channel?

15:46Rich Eisen:I'm not joking, by the way. Oh, YouTube, too.

15:49Brockman:They've done international games. It seems like this is inevitable. It's a package. Honestly, yeah.

15:53Rich Eisen:And everyone's like, well, does the league want a team overseas? I don't think so. No, you don't need a team. You don't need a division. We don't need expansion. It's just this is it. Everyone's like, they want a team in London, don't they? And every single time I hear that, But truly, I do not hear that we need a team in London because it would be tough to stock that team. It would be very tough for a free agent to say, you know what, family, let's move to France or let's move to London. Let's pull everyone out of schools, leave all your friends. You're now moving to London.

16:34Brockman:Might not be bad, no.

16:35Rich Eisen:That is not easy. It is not easy. And then, you know, it's a massive advantage for the home team in London when somebody's coming in from the East Coast or the West Coast or whatever. And then you send them to the East Coast and it's a four-week road trip. Because you're not going to keep going back and forth. You might go back and forth from London to the East Coast. That's a similar thing of going back and forth from the East Coast to Seattle. But you don't do that four straight weeks. where every other week, if you're Seattle, you know, I just don't see it. Now then, here's Jerry on George Pickens.

17:16Rich Eisen:Everybody hit it. I don't know. The French House tag has an automatic time frame on it. and all of us will, and it's my plan and our thought that we'll all be working within the time frame of the conditions of the franchise tag. So it should play itself out is the best way for me to say it. Make no mistake about it, we have long-term plans in mind for pickings. Okay. TJ? Yeah. I'll give you the floor. You just heard.

17:56Brockman:I mean, you want George there for a long time, obviously. I do. You know, I'm going back and forth because you know me, man. I'm not someone who will sit here and claim that I know everything, right? I listen to different sides, and now, you know, I'll change my opinion. First, I was like, yeah, let's sign him. And then I've had other people kind of go, this money could be better used filling other gaps on this team. And now I'm kind of like, do you really need to pay another receiver that much money when we've got a lot of holes on the other side? Now, let me just say this.

18:31Rich Eisen:Let me just say this.

18:35Rich Eisen:The, I guess, template or avatar in the NFL of paying top dollar to two wide receivers. There's two teams that do it. Yeah. Cincinnati and Detroit. By the way, Jamison Williams is up there, okay, in terms of making money. But T. Higgins and Jamar Chase are the leaders of it. And Burrow is being paid as well. So you got Dak, and you're going to have CeeDee Lamb, and you're going to have Pickens. And I'm saying this with no sense of irony, I swear. Who would you take as a better defense right now, Dallas or Cincinnati? Because you're like, oh, they're paying those guys, and they don't have enough to figure out how to pay the defensive side.

19:19Rich Eisen:Oh, I don't think there's any question you take to Alice's. Any question? Now that Trey Hendrickson is gone, yeah. Well, it's not. Even if, even, I'll give you Trey Hendrickson on Cincinnati. Quinnen Williams is no joke. Yeah, now, yeah, they made some moves. Kenny Clark, Quinnen Williams, and Rashawn Gary is ferocious with Overshown behind him.

19:39Brockman:You're right, you're right, you're right.

19:41Rich Eisen:Okay, boy, that would have been big if they had gotten the Kobe Dean, with all due respect. But now they're going to draft two kids to put on the back end of the defense. Draft a couple more. Make another smart signing here and there.

20:00Rich Eisen:Yeah. Laugh all you want, everybody, but the Cowboys are putting it together.

20:07Brockman:That's a fact. I still have to see it. I know you got to see it. I'll sit here and wave the flag and say we're going. You know what, this defense on paper, way better than what it looked like at this point last year. Yeah, and it's going to be. Even with Micah there, I swear to you. And then four weeks is going to be better than it is today.

20:26Rich Eisen:Well, they got to hit it in the draft. Because if that back end can't cover, that front end better really get home as fast as they hope they can. But yeah, man, tight end, two receivers, the running back that they signed, the offensive line, the quarterback the defensive line you're getting there so pickens paying him long term you want to figure all that out and keep quinn and williams and kenny clark and rashawn gary and the other kids that you're going to draft who are eventually going to have to get paid at some point figure that out i'm you know people like making fun of jerry and the cowboys and the joneses but

21:08Brockman:this thing is coming together it looks it top where you put them in the nfc top three top four

21:15Rich Eisen:they have the seventh i mean the top three in the nfc might just be in the same division uh odds odds wise yes but i don't know i'm not prepared to go there just better than the eagles we don't let's see what that looks let's let's see what it looks like after the uh after the draft yeah how does that sound you know what's for sure though right yeah when the ducks quack Feed them.

21:37Brockman:Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new Jerry drop. Yes. Shucky-ducky. Quack. Squirrels. Squirrels. Ducks. Doctors. Oh, my gosh. Powerhouse. It's a gift that just keeps on giving. It's the best. You know? But, yeah, I don't know. Because, look, if someone else matches Pickens, then we get two first. That's kind of thing. They're not going to be matching George Pickens.

21:59Rich Eisen:No one's matching George Pickens and paying two ones for George. 0.0.

22:03Brockman:Somebody just paid two ones for Max Crosby and took that back. I'm just telling you, as you already know, that's what happened.

22:10Rich Eisen:Nice try. That's not happening.

22:12Brockman:Speak it, TJ.

22:13Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH, number to dial. Let's talk some baseball. Ken Davidoff is joining. Oh, David Wright wrote the forward. You're going to love this book. My captain. That's right, your captain. When is his number getting retired? Next week. Okay. 101 Lessons from the Dugout, everybody. Ken Davidoff joining us next here on The Rich Eisen Show.

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25:27Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show podcast. You love that sort of stuff. Our radio audience is back. 101 Lessons from the Dugout, written in part by our next guest right here on the Rich Eisen Show, covering baseball for 30 years, running Ken Davidoff here on the program. What's this book about, sir? So, Rich, this book is targeted for young adults and their coaches and parents and grandparents about the life lessons that you can learn from baseball and softball. So each chapter is one or two pages, and we just break it down to 101 elements and how you can take the lessons you learn on the field and translate those to the rest of your life.

26:04Okay.

26:04Rich Eisen:So it's a sort of get-to-know-you, self-help type of book? Yeah. I mean, it's maybe a little inspirational and aspirational. Okay. The most simple one is chapter two, the lineup, and you come to the field and you're not in the lineup that day. So how are you going to react to that? Are you going to put your head down and let it ruin your day? Are you going to, okay, steal up and say I'm going to be the best pinch runner, pinch hitter, defensive replacement. I'll win more playing time the next time. Because that's not easy for kids to figure out. I just know when my youngest son, who is the baseball player in the family, when you wake up at 5 in the morning to go drive all the way to the hinterlands of our Southern California area just to find out you're not playing and then sit around and then wonder you're playing in the afternoon game after a long-ass lunch and your uniform's still clean.

26:53Rich Eisen:It was a tough day to figure that stuff out. Right. And now you go, let's say your son wants to act, you know, in the school play and he doesn't get the lead role. He gets the role with two lines. Similar, right? Oh, so yeah. So, you know, but let's crush those two lines and one more stage time the next time. Or you run for student body president, but you don't get that, but you're on the student council. So all the ways the lessons from the field can translate to the rest of your life. OK. And there are parts in this book like about Billy Martin, about what not to do. Or no, there's nothing like that.

27:22Billy did not make the cut. Billy Martin did not make the cut. No, but, you know, we get into, there's no names at all, but besides the blurbs and David Wright's forward.

27:33Rich Eisen:David Wright, you had him write this. Yeah. The forward. That's pretty cool. Yeah, David's awesome. Just one of the best people I've ever met, period. And we just thought he was perfect for this because, as you know, Rich, he's just kind of gone home to Southern California and coaching his kids and living a pretty quiet life. Okay, and softball's the same lessons as what you're doing. Yeah, obviously they're easily translatable for both. Right, for sure. And it's available wherever you get your books and certainly, you know, parenting and sports. And there's so many people who are listening right now are so highly involved in both.

28:06Rich Eisen:They spend, you know, I spend my weekends frequently. So does my wife as a chauffeur, essentially, from sporting event to sporting event. For sure. This is important sort of stuff right here. Let's talk a little bit about the baseball season right now. One weekend, how do you think ABS is being taken in right now? I think it's taken in positively as a spectacle, Rich. I went to a Yankee spring training game a couple weeks ago, and I couldn't believe it's entertaining, right? Because I'm a big tennis fan, so when you go to the U.S. Open, it's very similar. It's the same thing, yeah. Yeah, so as opposed to instant replay, which is so aggravating, right?

28:40All right, let's sit here for two minutes, and let's watch that. Oh, maybe he's out, maybe he's safe. Like this technology, there's no doubt. You know, so I think, yeah, like they're working out the kinks and umpires are getting a little bit worked up over it. Do you think they are? Yeah, I mean, I've just, you know, they are. Well, I mean, I've honestly, Rich, I've just read some stories like that. I think the athletic just had a good story, including some some umpires. But, you know, like the bottom line is we want to avoid what happened in that WBC game with the U.S. and the D.R. where the game ends on a called third strike.

29:09It's questionable. Right. Right now, if that happens and the team has used up its challenges, it's their fault. Right. It's not the umpires fault.

29:16Rich Eisen:Well, we're already seeing some really entertaining moments. I'm sure it's not entertaining for the manager, but Randy Rosarena on a 3-2 pitch gets called out, and he taps his helmet and then proceeds to walk up the first baseline, taking off his equipment because he knows the result of his challenge is going to be ball four. I'm waiting for umpires to consider that sort of stuff to be showing them up and an actual ABS ejection coming something off. That would be interesting. You know, like I'm wondering where this goes from here. Yeah. Well, think of all the power that the umpires have lost in these last 15 years, right?

29:59Like it used to be, their word used to be the decree, right? But now first replay with Safe Out and Fairfowl. And now this, you know, and it's a matter of will we ever get to that point? You know, they entertain the idea of just the total robo-ump or the home plate ump, which is where it earpiece. Okay, that's a ball. Okay, that's a strike. I don't think you want to get there. I don't want to either. But there's no doubt that the umpire's power ranking has taken a hit. Right.

30:23Rich Eisen:And in terms of the Dodgers, how do you think that their run and their way of putting a team together and their way of paying their team and the way that they are running their business is affecting the game writ large here? Dramatically, Rich, are you a Simpsons fan? Sure. Who's not? Remember Homer's line, And to alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems. Yes, sure. So I think you could say to Shohei Otani, the cause of and solution to all of baseball's problems. Yeah. Because he's obviously such a dynamo and so fantastic for the game. But because he agreed to that contract with the deferments, the Dodgers have been able to build this empire.

31:00Right. And he's not the only one either. No, his is the most dramatic and he's bringing in the most revenue. But you're right. He set the model for the other ones. And I expect that to be stopped, you know, with this next collective bargaining agreement.

31:12Rich Eisen:deferred payments with deferred payments will be taken out by who who's going to be the one the players probably don't mind it right or or it's the small market owners that have a problem or even large market owners yeah i don't know bottom line is i think it's hard to defend it on principle and especially when when you know the results like this uh and i i honestly you know The salary cap is obviously the bigger battle, but I think the deferred payments will be relatively easy to figure out how to stop that. Well, just remove that from the – Yeah, move contracts moving forward. Obviously, Otani still has a what?

31:51Another – this is a year three of 10, I believe. Well, they can't take it from an average contract. No, no, no, no. But they'll be grandfathered in. But moving forward, like enough with these deferred payments.

32:01Rich Eisen:But I think we kind of hit on what is an issue here is that there's probably not going to be full-on agreement amongst the actual owners themselves. Oh, for sure. Before we can actually start dealing with the Players Association, which just had their own scandal and had to reconfigure their way of going about their business. Yeah. You know? And I hope they figure it out because I just think the game is as good as it's ever been. I love the pitch clock. I love the fact that the shift has been removed. Now the ABS. I like the challenge system. I think overall, everything is, this game has been as great as it's ever been since the times that, you know, obviously you and I first met in the late 90s.

32:40Rich Eisen:Yeah. Yeah. Do you agree with that? I do agree, Rich. I do think, and I, you know, I'm very sympathetic to the players and the idea of free markets and capitalism. But I think, like, you look at the Milwaukee Brewers, and, like, no one is accusing the Milwaukee Brewers of lining their pockets with revenue sharing, right? They do a great job. And, you know, they won 97 games in the regular season last year, and they played the Dodgers. It wasn't much of a match. So, like, what can the Milwaukee – more can the Milwaukee Brewers do to keep up with the Dodgers? So I do think the economic system does need to be, if not a full-on salary cap, maybe the luxury tax.

33:13You know, the Dodgers are essentially paying Kyle Tucker double, right, because of luxury tax. Like, it's$240 million he's getting, but then they pay$480. So does that need to go to$720? Like, does that need to go to – like, what number would that have to get to for the Dodgers to say, no, we're going to pass on Kyle Tucker? What's your favorite George Steinbrenner story? Oh, okay. Well, it was very personal for me. Okay. Because as you know, Rich, you know, when George was at his peak, you know, you had to keep tabs on them at all times. You know, they had the walkie-talkies. 1097, that was the code.

33:39That meant George was on the property. What are you talking about? The security guards at George Steinbrenner Field back then, Legends Field in Tampa. Okay. When he arrived on site, the security guards all had their walkie-talkies. And you're 1097, 1097. That meant that George was on the premises. Why was it 1097? That I couldn't tell. Okay, very good. But anyway. How did we know? Okay. It was my job to learn the code.

33:58Rich Eisen:Very good. And so anyway, one day he's there. George is going to talk to us today. So February 14, 2003, my wife, Sarah, who I met at Michigan, calls me. Wonderful news, honey. We're pregnant. You know, first child. I said, that's amazing. I love you. I'm so happy. But right now I'm chasing George Steinbrenner down a hallway trying to get a quote from George Steinbrenner. So we did not get him that day, but I wasn't that disappointed. It was still a pretty good day for me. Okay, so that's wild. What did you name your child, George? No. Jonathan Jacob, JJ. Okay. All right. JJ Davidoff. Yes. What a heck of a name right there.

34:39Rich Eisen:Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, man, I just remember George just looming over absolutely everything. And I'm just being a diehard fan, sitting here thinking he was the scourge of the Yankees being good. and, you know, all the stuff happened where he got, you know, kicked out of the game for a while and the Yankees reset without him. Yeah. And then everything got better. And crazily enough, now I'm wondering if he was around right now, if he would be running the Yankees a little bit better than it's currently being run, to be very honest with you, Ken. Yeah, that's... That goes back and forth. Right now they're 4-1, so I don't feel that way.

35:19Rich Eisen:Check back with me around, you know, Memorial Day. But I'm just wondering what he would be doing right now. You know, like every Dodger fan, when I complain about this, that, and how they're paying their players, they're like, you know, you're a Yankee fan, right? Like welcome to, you know, needing to look your face in the mirror, you know? Yeah, it's fascinating times. And you mentioned the Dodgers vis-a-vis the Yankees. Like, you know, Rich, the Yankees, they make their fortune from the Yankees, right? Like that's their primary source of revenue. That's not the case with the Guggenheim group who owns the Dodgers.

35:52That's not the case with Steve Cohen who owns the Mets. So it's just an interesting dynamic where they're really not the financial heavyweights anymore. Not like they were.

36:01Rich Eisen:So when you were day-to-day, beat Wrighton and all that sort of stuff, the best player that you were around is who? My favorite player to be around was Hideki Matsui, just a wonderful man and dealt so well being on the griddle. Yeah, and learned English well enough that we could, you know, kibitz. And, you know, there were like 30 reporters assigned to him from Japan. So their story was like Yankees win, Matsui goes 0 for 2 with a walk. Is that right? Oh, yeah. But he handled that with such grace and such diplomacy. And then also forged relationships with all the American media. And, yeah, he was just an absolute delight to deal with.

36:41Did you know about the briefcase or you didn't know about the briefcase?

36:45Rich Eisen:Do you know about Matsui? Had a briefcase filled with certain materials? Oh, yeah. He taught me one naughty Japanese word that I won't share with your audience. Everybody Google it. But while you Google it, make sure you get 101. That's not one of the 101 lessons. No, that is not. The briefcase is not one of the 101 lessons. 101 lessons from the dugout. Neat stuff. What baseball and softball can teach us about the game of life? If so many of our viewers and listeners have kids in youth sports, and obviously the lessons aren't just applied to sports, they're applied to life in general. David Wright, the all-time great of the Mets, wrote the forward.

37:24Rich Eisen:It's great to see you again, Ken. You too, Rich. I really appreciate it. Don't be a stranger. Let's cut down on net. What do you think? Oh, let's do it. Let's do it. So you were there for the, I guess, what, the Gerbach-Desmond Howard? Yep. when they really came on strong? Yeah, so my senior year, we run the Rose Bowl. You were there for the Fab Five. There for the Fab Five. My senior year, we run the Rose Bowl, and Chris called a timeout. That was my senior year. Wow. And you wrote for The Daily, too. I did. What was the name of your column? Hi, I'm Ken Davidoff. I was above it all, right? I'm not doing a pun.

37:58You know, hi, I'm Ken Davidoff.

37:59Rich Eisen:You know, Schefter's was chef's specialty. That's what it was. And so I was get rich quick. Yeah. I mean, you were above the fray. Oh, yeah. What a jerk I was. Jeez, look at this guy over here. Highfalutin'. Highfalutin'. Yeah. All right. 101 Lessons from the Dugout. Everybody get it. Where books are available, wherever you get your books, 101 Lessons from the Dugout. We're back with more to wrap up this show and Rich Eisen Show here on this busy Wednesday in a moment.

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39:11Rich Eisen:NMLS 696891. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the program. CB Buckner took one off of his face mask, the home plate umpire who's been overturned more than any other home plate umpire and then had a brutal call last night at first base. His long week has continued. He had to leave the game, did he? Damn, man. Don't wish that. No, of course, on anybody. But that is what's happening. A lot of day baseball here on this. A lot of day baseball. Are you Red Sox winning or losing? Where are we? Just tied it up. Hey, congratulations.

39:45Brockman:Yeah. Congrats to you. Happy for you. Rough. Yeah. Not a great start to the year. Okay. Paul Skeen's got some run support. Well, he did. Yeah. He got it last week, too. He just gave up too many. Cruz hit a three-run bomb in the first.

40:01Rich Eisen:That makes up for giving up three, four runs against the Mets with his glove, right? Only went five. Pirates are up 4-3. Okay. All right. What's on tonight? What do we got? You know? What are we doing? I don't know. This is that time of year. I mean, we are in – this is the conversation we have this time of year. April is –

40:27Brockman:Phenomenal.

40:28Rich Eisen:First full month of baseball.

40:29Brockman:Phenomenal.

40:30Rich Eisen:Yep.

40:30Brockman:March Madness Final Four in men's and women's basketball.

40:35Rich Eisen:Masters next week. Masters. Then the NBA and NHL playoffs begin. NFL Draft. Right. NFL Draft. What are we missing?

40:46Brockman:A little disrespectful is this conversation. What is? WrestleMania. Speak up. Your microphone works. Well, he was talking. I was going to see if he was going to get to it. You know, he didn't. The Ducks are quacking. Feed him. Yeah, exactly. Feed it. You know what I'm saying? No contest wrestling, sir. Feed him. I have said this before, but April is the best sports month. I don't know about that. And you guys disagree. You're crazy.

41:11Rich Eisen:You can't have the best sports month have no football being played in it with all due respect to the UFL.

41:18Brockman:There's a draft.

41:19Rich Eisen:No National Football League.

41:20Brockman:The draft is often better than most regular season NFL weeks.

41:24Rich Eisen:I guess since both ESPN and NFL Network were showing the Fernando Mendoza pro day throws. I was watching it.

41:35Brockman:It was great.

41:36Rich Eisen:You know, over the last half hour.

41:38Brockman:He talked afterwards. Let's go.

41:41Rich Eisen:So now we're going to talk about, well, he's definitely the first overall pick now because he looked great throwing on air at his pro day.

41:47Brockman:Giant Raiders contingent.

41:49Rich Eisen:By the way, the Indiana Pro Day just got covered live on television. I know. Words I never thought I'd ever say. Words you'll probably never say again. Probably. Hey, everybody back off and be careful here.

42:05Brockman:I'm just saying.

42:06Rich Eisen:Be careful. Probably right. Why would you say you'd never say that again?

42:09Brockman:Why would you say that? Well, up until today, you're 56. Okay. Up until today, you went all that time and never said it.

42:18Rich Eisen:Yeah, but why don't we see it again? Why can't Kurt, you want to Google the coach thing? I mean, I know who he is. You want to Google what he does? It's a Berg thing. Go ahead and check it out.

42:29Brockman:No disrespect, I'm just saying. If he leaves, there's no chance. He's not leaving. Where's he going? Anywhere he wants. He could be, he could have gotten, dude, honestly, Pittsburgh might have screwed this up. What, the Steelers should have hired him? Yeah. They could have brought him home. Oh, come on. O, O, O, O 'Reilly Check engine, ABS, or maintenance light on? Take the guesswork out of your warning lights with O 'Reilly Veriscan. The service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by ASE certified master technicians. And if you need help, we could recommend a shop for you. Ask for O 'Reilly Veriscan today.

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44:02Rich Eisen:That's something else. It's a good take. I like that. Let me just say this. Excuse me. Let me just say this. Fernando Mendoza is going to be the first overall pick in this draft. And today, watching him, yes, look at him throw, man. Look at him fake here, and then he throws on the run in his shorts, and there's no one chasing him around. He's highly impressive. He's going to be first overall, and it'll be awesome to watch his career. It'll be fun. If you think this is the end of Indiana football, that they've just had their one shot at fame and fantasy.

44:32Brockman:Oh, they're not making the playoff next year. Oh, I'll take that.

44:37Rich Eisen:I'll take that right now.

44:38Brockman:So they're a powerhouse now? Powerhouse. Powerhouse.

44:41Rich Eisen:Yeah. They're a powerhouse, TJ. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. This dude is not messing around. He is.

44:50Brockman:What's the matter with you people? You don't. Gosh, man. Bless you to have this positive attitude. Why is it? It's not a positive attitude. I see what he's cooking up. It's been two years. Right. A dynasty does not make.

45:04Rich Eisen:Okay. they're going to be one of the excellent big 10 teams again this fall they're going to win double digit games i will take all and they will also be in the mix for the college football

45:19Brockman:playoff we're allowed to bet now you and me well i've always been you i'm not you you are allowed to bet now just let me so i will take all of this action from you let me just find this out before i

45:31Rich Eisen:start doing it yeah because we can't have him okay messed up chris there there's there's some human resources traps that i need to continue to run here before i'm fully aware of what i can and

45:41Brockman:cannot do don't listen to chris i'm trying to keep going after 23 years i'm very rusty on this sort

45:46Rich Eisen:of stuff but i do believe my unfrozen caveman lawyer days are over yeah you're not i don't know i don't understand what you mean by this i like this over in this under thing i'm very They're confused by this language. So wait, come on. Get out of here. You know what an over-under is? Sorry? You actually know what an over-under is? I'm beginning to read the memories. The fog, the fog, the 23-year fog's beginning to lift.

46:08Brockman:Ten and a half wins. Piecing it together. For Indiana, that's the line right now. Hit the over. How many, Chris? Ten and a half. Ten and a half. That's a lot of wins. Hit it. That's a lot of wins. Hit it. Hit it. Got him. Michigan, eight and a half. He got him.

46:21Rich Eisen:Take the over. Hit it. Are you aware that we're living in a Big Ten world right now? Are you aware of that or you're not aware of it? You're aware that five of the Sweet 16 teams were from the Big Ten? Are you aware that half the Elite Eight and half the Final Four from the Big Ten? Were you aware of that? All right, cool. Okay, just trying to update you on a few things here.

46:39Brockman:I've always been.

46:40Rich Eisen:About what world we're living in. I know it's a southeast bias world when it comes to college athletics, but this is a Big Ten world we're living in right now. The last three national champions, are you aware of that streak in football? I only know. What conference they're from? I only know. Indiana is the latest. I only know. Ohio State only followed out what Michigan started. And then before, yeah. Just trying to figure that all out.

46:59Brockman:So next year, Penn State's going to. Only two are asterisks clean. Maybe.

47:03Rich Eisen:Maybe. I love. Keep going, Chris. I don't care. You're not getting me down right now. It's the Big Ten world right now, and it's Kurt Signetti collecting rent. Are you kidding me? They're not going to make the playoff. Okay. I will take it. Okay. I'm going to rate this down.

47:19Brockman:Come on. I'm calling my shot. Who's the betting favorite to win the national championship? To win the natty next year? Oh, the Ohio State. Okay. And who else? Notre Dame. And who else? Texas. Indiana's not there. Indiana is third.

47:33Rich Eisen:But they're not making the college football. But I don't know if you're aware, there's 12 teams that make it. Okay. Call him a shot. Okay. Just Google him. Do yourself a favor. He's told you what to do. Do it. The Ridge Eisen Show Podcast. From 30 for 30 Podcasts.

48:01Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami, gunned down. The key to this case, it's Brian.

48:08Brockman:Brian, he scrapped it. An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody. This might be a hit. You want the truth. They just want a conviction. We had a killer amongst us.

48:19Rich Eisen:Murder at the U. Listen now.