Hour 3: NCAA Tournament Expansion Reactions, plus ‘The Boys’ Star Chace Crawford In-Studio

29 Apr 2026 · 47 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show reacts to NCAA men’s and women’s tournament expansion from 64 to 76 teams, arguing it’s unnecessary and could distort competitiveness and scheduling. The hour also features in-studio guest Chace Crawford (The Boys) discussing Season 5, his character The Deep, and behind-the-scenes moments, plus a detour into golf stories and a new Hulu series about the Cleveland Browns.

Guests

Chace Crawford, actor known for playing The Deep on Amazon’s The Boys (Season 5 is the final season; new episodes Wednesdays on Prime Video).

Key claims

NCAA expansion isn’t “asked for” and may add blowouts (especially in women’s early rounds). Reported rationale: not mainly money, but increased access for power conferences to at-large bids; modest financial upside is expected. Scheduling concerns include how the extra games might affect the Final Four timing.

Notable examples

Women’s bracket upset Virginia (10 seed) over Iowa (2 seed) and Virginia’s overtime win vs Iowa; TCU beating Virginia by 10 afterward. Crawford describes a Season 5 graphic, unexpected moment and highlights The Deep’s narcissistic celebrity persona. He also recounts playing golf with Rory McIlroy at an Omega event and using his own shot on a par-3.

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Recap of Previous Episodes

1:38 to 2:14

Rich Eisen highlights past guests and content from previous hours of the show.

“I had some secret meetings with Coach McVeigh.”

Introduction of Chace Crawford

2:14 to 4:02

Rich introduces actor Chace Crawford and discusses his return to the show.

“I did my top ten, if you will, power rankings of NFL draftees who will live up to the billing the most.”

Reactions to NCAA Tournament Expansion

4:02 to 6:11

Rich shares his thoughts on the NCAA's decision to expand tournament teams.

“Listen, out of all the things people are asking for in this sports world, there's many.”

The Impact of Power Conferences

6:11 to 7:59

Discussion on the influence of power conferences on NCAA tournament changes.

“It's three teams that are trapped in a mirror, hurtled into the deep space of the NBA.”

Final Four and Masters Weekend Considerations

7:59 to 8:34

Exploration of scheduling conflicts between NCAA and the Masters tournament.

“What do we need to see the 12th team in the Big Ten and SEC?”

Golf and the Masters Experience

8:34 to 10:46

Rich and the team discuss their experiences and thoughts on the Masters tournament.

“I should say, I shouldn't speak for everybody because you're not a golf fan.”

Women's Tournament and Venue Ideas

10:46 to 12:18

Discussion about the logistics of combining men's and women's tournaments.

“It'll go Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.”

Listener Interaction: Broncos Fan Call

12:18 to 14:00

Rich engages with a listener discussing the Broncos and Ty Simpson's draft implications.

“There's not a single person that's like, you know what?”

Evaluating Quarterbacks and Team Strategies

14:00 to 20:03

Exploration of backup quarterback strategies and team management decisions.

“I'd try and get Jimmy G back if I could.”

Discussing 'The Boys' and Its Unique Appeal

23:24 to 28:00

Chace Crawford shares insights about his role and the show's unconventional storytelling.

“And no show makes me say holy S out loud more than the boys.”
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Memes and Friendship Dynamics

28:00 to 29:40

Discussing the impact of memes from 'The Boys' and group text interactions.

“And I think they were like, that's our guy.”

Chace Crawford's Family Ties to Football

29:40 to 30:40

Chace shares his long-standing support for the Dallas Cowboys and family connections to the team.

Golfing with Rory McIlroy

30:40 to 33:20

Chace recounts his memorable experience golfing with Rory McIlroy at an Omega event.

“of the Dallas Cowboys, you'd have been like, what the hell, get out of here.”

The Boys: Favorite Scenes and Experiences

33:20 to 36:10

Chace discusses his favorite scene from 'The Boys' and the unique experiences on set.

“You know, I'm asking about his whoop and everything.”

Upcoming Projects and Role Insights

36:10 to 40:00

Chace talks about his new role in a Hulu show about the Cleveland Browns and his character's dynamics.

“The worse you play, the earlier your tee time is, right?”

Show Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts

40:00 to 42:08

Concluding remarks about 'The Boys' and Chace's social media presence.

“Manny Moore, Chloe Bennett, with the Dars.”

Caller Interaction with Manny

43:44 to 44:45

Manny from El Paso shares his thoughts on the draft and favorite moments.

“Well, just right away, Chris, what would Cage want when he wins a green jacket?”

Discussion on Masters Menu Ideas

44:45 to 46:06

The hosts speculate on the ideal Masters menu if they were champions.

“I'm going to do a top five of top five favorite draft moments.”

Burger Draft Concept at the Masters

46:06 to 47:21

The hosts brainstorm the concept of a burger draft during the Masters Championship.

“And suddenly you do your schmecky birthday celebration.”
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1:07Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Hey, you know what show I love? The Rich Eisen Show. I had some secret meetings with Coach McVeigh. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Why all the secrets? It's messy so you keep it quiet to the point where one coach plays Mr.

1:52Rich Eisen:Grumpy. Earlier You're on the show. Rams general manager, Les Snead. Saints head coach, Kellen Moore. Coming up. Actor, Chase Crawford. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Les Snead and hour number one. Hour number two, Kellen Moore of the New Orleans Saints. He's the head coach there. I did my top ten, if you will, power rankings of NFL draftees who will live up to the billing the most. All of that, if you missed it, there's our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. We chopped this show up and put it there for so many of you to take in.

2:34Rich Eisen:And we greatly appreciate that. We're closing in on almost 1.1 million subscribers on that one or followers or whatever they're calling it. They're on YouTube right now. Subscribers, very good. And then there's also our Disney Plus page. As soon as the show's over, the show lives on. It just lives on. forever forever no i don't think so forever i need to look that's a mighty long time i know but it lives on long enough for you to watch it back if you missed any of it that's true um so there's that youtube started in oh five so yeah i mean we're we're going no i'm sure um did we get our plaque yet yeah where is our million plaque yeah i mean come on this is ridiculous i'm gonna make a phone call i'm trying i got photo shoot set up you know do you really what's what's the photo shoot well you'll see it with the plaque when we get it well it's like the cup we're getting yeah we're all we all get a day with it are we on the pain of mind list is that what you're saying yeah that's what i'm saying okay um at any rate you can watch the first two hours and catch up there's our podcast as well all three hours if you want to listen to it chase crawford's in our green room speaking of podcasts there's one this afternoon as well oh that's right uh is o'shea gonna make it here he's on his way he'll be here is he gonna make it here for the talk about how what's going on higher register on yeah he rarely misses his time to sit in that The fifth and final season of The Boys.

3:51Rich Eisen:New episodes release Wednesdays on Prime Video. The man who plays the deep is in our green room right now. Chase Crawford. It'll be a lot of fun chatting with him. We haven't had him here in a few years. He's back. Listen, out of all the things people are asking for in this sports world, there's many. Of all the things, the one that we're asking about for the least, I would think, is to expand the NCAA men's and women's tournament. Nobody asked for that. From 64 teams to 76. Nobody's asking for this. It's 14 more teams. Okay. I guess the NCAA or whoever's in charge of making this decision sees the first four and goes, we need more of that.

4:38Rich Eisen:We need more of that. I'll be straight up with you. I'll be straight up with you. You know, I love college basketball when my team does well. and when they don't i just don't pay that much attention to it same straight up agree and if my team is uh and then when the tournament rolls around i will be of interest yep it will be of interest but uh even doing this show i'm not locked into the first four on either side men's or women's just not and on the women's side of things you know things really begin to cook maybe around the Sweet 16. You take a look at the first two rounds, it is a rarity to have a lower seed win a first round or even a second round game.

5:22Rich Eisen:I think there was one upset maybe. Right. Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at the women's bracket right here. You know, Virginia beat Iowa in two overtimes in the round of 32 in the second round. And what were the seeds on that? 10 over 2. Okay. So that was a pretty big one. That's a big upset. But then TCU restored order, if you will, beating Virginia by 10. South Carolina, all four one seeds made it. But that happened in the men's the other couple years ago. But on the women's side especially, you're getting 40, 50-point blowouts. That's not good for anybody. I mean, there are some tight games I'm looking at here in the first round.

6:03Rich Eisen:But to say you need to see 12 more teams, I don't understand it. you know trust me um we're we're all into the more is more situation here certainly you know we live on a an espn app disney plus app we're just like keep on adding content if we can be part of it we're in like i mean we're all about more is more like as a matter of fact you want to call up the relegation zone again like we'll just go back down to that that do that one more time there it is the nba three teams top worst three teams in their in the nba draft we're giving you a visual of what the relegation zone is. It's three teams that are trapped in a mirror, hurtled into the deep space of the NBA.

6:48Rich Eisen:I'll make that joke again. Maybe in five minutes. We're all about more is more. You know? But this ain't it. I don't understand. Pete Thamel, who I saw at the NFL draft, says that NFL officials met with media partners for the men's tournament last week. The sides were in the final steps of the media contracts, but they haven't been signed. The expansion isn't expected to be a financial windfall for the NCAA and its members, but sources stress there would be a profit. The added finances would cover the additional logistics for both the men's and women's tournaments, the additional NCAA units that would come into play and still deliver, quote unquote, a modest financial upside.

7:34Rich Eisen:The primary driver of this move hasn't been money, but rather access for at-large bids for power conferences. Ah, okay. Alright, that looks like, don't sue us. We'll flip you a few at-large bids. Don't sue us about the other stuff that we might want to do to lock you out. Is that what that sounds like to me? The expansion has been pushed by power conferences, which have grown throughout the course of the current deal. What do we need to see the 12th team in the Big Ten and SEC? Does it matter if that allows the big conferences to grow bigger and maybe start doing things on the football side of things?

8:10Rich Eisen:I don't know. I'm totally speculating there, but that's what that sounds like to me. Don't sue us. Here's more at-large bids. Then we'll knock you out. What does that mean, though? Does that mean the Final Four happens on the second weekend of April? No? Deeper into April? Masters weekend and the Final Four? No, no, no. No, no, no. That would not be good. Why? Why? CBS. Yeah, CBS has them both. Okay. I'll put it on TBS then. That's true. Is that what that would mean? Or you start it sooner? That's right. Start it sooner? That's, again, sports fans. Listen, hey, we like sitting down. I should say, I shouldn't speak for everybody because you're not a golf fan.

8:57Rich Eisen:Do you sit down and watch the Masters? You really don't care. I mean, it's on. Got it. So I pay attention to it, but I'm nowhere near as a veteran. Yeah, where it's just like, you know. Living or dying with every shot. It's a holiday we have for me. There are a few, I would think, speaking for many who view sports, the Masters are, if you had to name five sporting events where it's Leave Me Alone for the Day, everyone else in my orbit, it's the Masters Sunday. Sunday, 100%. Masters Sunday is like Leave Me Alone. All I want to sit there and just say, are those bird noises real? Because I don't care.

9:34Rich Eisen:They are. They are. It just makes me calmer. I'm calmer. Let's talk a little bit more firethorn. Hush tones, though. I did go. Is that the loudest anyone's ever said firethorn? Speaking of which, see, more is more. More is more. Except for this. I had an Uber driver in Pittsburgh and he told me something about the Masters. We were talking golf. and yeah did you know that there was a they were selling a food box i never knew this you guys put it at the mat for like like two dollars no for like a hundred bucks you get all the food that they serve at the masters mailed to you and like a mailed to you oh you can get this you can get like and so he is it the food ornament is it the food that the that patrons can purchase right or is it like the leftovers of rory's dinner no not to let the the stuff you can purchase the drink mixes you get the pimento cheese oh yeah oh so you can have it at home yeah he told me here's a box you can buy and you can get the full effect writing this down for next year here's a new here's a new one you can get vj singh's half-eaten veal shank now that's on ebay where you go to find that's a fantasy name is it too long for fantasy a little long i don't think vj's half-eaten veal shank fit in the 25 characters but yeah i i i assume you knew this Chris but I guess no that's great I love that that's next level yeah but yes leave me alone master Sunday right but certainly you don't we don't need um what I mean well that would be the women's women's final final final game final yeah come on final game now I've I've heard putting the men's and the women's tournaments in the same city that's a great that's a good idea I like that Because when you're in between games of the women.

11:31Rich Eisen:Because the women play Friday. It'll go Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I like that. And the Friday and Sunday would be for fans that are there in between the men's game. And the men's game will be there in between for the women's game. It's a lot of people. It's a lot of people in the town. It's a lot of hotels. I don't know if now the women don't have their own stage in a different city. I don't know if that would be a concern. Would have worked for UConn fans. Would have worked. Same. Well. Same venue. Yeah. Yeah. They would have left both very unhappy, as I like to point out. Very happy.

12:07Rich Eisen:Very unhappy. So. You know. They would be the ones ranting and raving. I don't know. We just don't. What are we doing? No. There's not a single person that's like, you know what? I would love. You would love to have more of the games that you won't forget. and more of the games that are going down a wire right you'd love to have that so this would be an expansion of the like tuesday wednesday games not i don't not the actual first round i imagine you're adding 12 teams so we're not adding you're adding you're adding 12 teams which would mean six more games and I imagine that would be, you know, now you'd get a 17 and an 18 seed.

12:55Rich Eisen:Is that what it would be? Or that's too many. You'd add maybe you'd add more first four. Right. But those what I'm saying is, you know, they're usually the first four winners. The expansion would be in the first four. Either the 16 seed or they're the 10 seed or the 11 seed. They'd be in the first four. And so instead of the 16 seed being either or the 15 would be that way 14 13 so it doesn't happen so we're not asking for that nobody is nobody's asking i don't think so except maybe the lawyer's saying you don't want to get sued if you leave the at-large people out so now boom you're doing that uh yeah no thanks no thank you no thank you less is more in that respect it would be yeah So, there's all of that.

13:44Rich Eisen:Let's go to Dominic in Montana. Sky Country's been hanging on for some time. Big Sky Dom joining us here on the Rich Eisen Show. What's up? Hey, Rich. Good morning. Hey, I'm a Broncos fan, and when Ty Simpson was drafted, I couldn't help think of Bo Nix both as an injury, the injury to Bo Nix, and also as a player comp to Bo Nix. And I just think using the 13th overall pick to have a reliable backup is huge just looking at the Broncos last year well I again the one thing I didn't want to because I you know I think I asked uh Les most everything the one thing I would would ask him if I wasn't already sensing like he was kind of done with the subject um would be like are you really going to go into this season where it's Matthew Stafford potentially winning it all for you with your backups being uh Spencer Stetson Bennett and and Ty Simpson.

14:41Rich Eisen:I don't know about that, man. I'd try and get Jimmy G back if I could. But I saw a stat here. Do I have it here? Here it is. Ty Simpson had the fourth lowest interception percentage in a season among quarterbacks in current Power 4 schools in the last 10 years. A minimum of 450 attempts. That list is led by Bo Nix. in 2023, his interception percentage was 0.6%. As you've noticed, I'm sure, Dominic is being a Broncos fan. He does not put the ball in danger. That might be just all of his years of experience. He's a coach's son. Do not put the ball in danger. Caleb Williams and Dak Prescott are next at 1 % in their seasons at USC and Mississippi State.

15:29Rich Eisen:And right after that, at 1.1 % is Ty Simpson last year and Joe Burrow of 2019. yeah he looks so much like Bo Nix well he plays and then Stafford's 38-39 Rich he's old yeah but if he wants to keep playing Dominic then the floor is his you know what I mean like the floor is yours man and that's the issue is that if he wants the floor to be his until it's his decision it's not anymore and thank you for the call Dominic I make this joke with my with agent of the stars jerry silbowitz all the time it's wrong i make this it's not a joke either though but it's just i never know when i'm gonna get tapped on my shoulder i'm like let's avoid the shoulder tap for as long as possible yeah right and i'll tell you what you know we got tapped on the shoulder here on this show in 2019 and thanks to all of you here in this studio and everyone else that's behind the scenes here saying you're gonna stick with it we're still here but we got a shoulder tap in 2019 we were able to shrug it off yeah but nobody wants the shoulder tap you want to say i'm here until i don't want to be here anymore exactly you know you're fortunate enough to do what you do for the living and you're you you're tapping yourself on the shoulder we keep telling you to tap yourself on the shoulder more often you go to your boat instead of working faders for white socks athletics on fs9 it's the truth you know but i mean i like what i do and And it's like, if I stop, I feel like I'm not going to, I get why these guys want to stay too.

17:01Rich Eisen:Right. Because it's, they love it. So if Stafford views this as, wait a minute. So at some point, you're going to want to see what this kid does. What if I'm still working at it here? Doing what I do, loving what I love. And at some point, you know, if I'm say 40 and I still want to do it. and my wife and I decide with our girls that we're still doing this football playing thing that I want to do it. And then all of a sudden I throw a couple interceptions and they're like, you know, now I'm looking over my shoulder. Whereas when, you know, the Dolphins were picking 12th overall, that wasn't the case.

17:49Rich Eisen:I was going to be the one tapping myself on the shoulder. So you can't blame if Stafford has that flowing through his temples. You know, but the bottom line is there's no easy way to script it. There's no easy way to script it. And you got to plan for the future. If you're less need, you do have to look over the steering wheel. And at some point you were going to do it. I always thought it would be let Stafford ride it out as long as he wants and then throw it open to the NFL community. Who wants to be the next Los Angeles Rams quarterback and throw that into the pond of all the Pro Bowl quarterbacks out there who might want to force their way out of a situation and see what flies.

18:45Rich Eisen:But that's not a plan. A plan is we're drafting Ty Simpson. We love him. He and Sean McVay get along. They have a similar brain and a similar mindset. And if he is a Bo Nix type guy, tough, you know, not that big in stature, but big in terms of playing and connected to the head coach, Sean Payton chose him. Now, everyone keeps saying that Sean Payton didn't really choose him. Everyone else choosing someone else left him for Sean Payton to take. But what if Bo Nix was Sean Payton's guy going in in the same way Ty Simpson was Sean McVay's guy going in, but we just won't buy that because the rest of the NFL community, save of Dan Orlovsky and everyone else, said this guy's a second round pick.

19:29Rich Eisen:So now he's taking this spot. You're like, what's up with that? And the most important what's up with that isn't me, isn't you, with all due respect for Les Snead and Sean McVay, it is Matthew Stafford. It's on them to manage all that. But I don't want the shoulder tap. You don't want the shoulder tap. Anyone else doesn't want the shoulder tap, and Stafford doesn't want it. He wants to tap himself on his shoulder. And now he might sit there and think, I'm no longer in that position. No matter how much the management might say, no, you still are. 844-204-RICH, number to dial Chase Crawford is coming up next, right here on the Rich Eisen Show.

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23:07Rich Eisen:our radio audience just returned the boys fifth and final season uh new episodes released wednesday on prime video uh and chase crawford is here and you know the way it was described to me because sometimes with what i do here and the nfl network i'm not directly immediately on a show like it took me a few months to get into breaking bad for instance years ago me too the way it was described to me is if superheroes have no conscience at all about actually doing superhero stuff that they're about themselves and it's crazy it's wild yeah right yeah you're gonna love it so i watch it and then you know um not to spoil it but there is a highly graphic moment involving Jack Quaid with his girlfriend.

23:59Rich Eisen:Right. And A-Train runs through. And no show makes me say holy S out loud more than the boys. Like, I'm like, what is their malfunction? What, like, where do they come up with this stuff? Yeah. It's gory. It's graphic. It's hilarious. It's unpredictable. You don't really know what's going to happen. Ever. That's the thing. Ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there ever a moment where you get in the script, you're like, really? You're going to ask me to do that? Oh, God, yes. All the time. Every year I'm like, oh, good. We did the hard thing. We did the hard thing. I'm good now. Now it's off the easy stuff, you know?

24:39Right. But that opening hook was what, like, you know, Breaking Bad was a little bit more of a slower burn. Right. But that hook with him and Jackie, or Robin, I'm sorry, at the beginning. Right. You think, you know, it's this kind of rom-com. Yeah. It's kind of like the same old, I've seen this before.

24:54Rich Eisen:Yeah. And then that moment, that's when it turns. You realize, oh, this is not your normal superhero show or any type of PG situation with the formulaic arc. But yeah, season three, that's when I had to be like, what are the camera angles going to be for this? And do I need to call my mom? Yes, the answer is yes. The answer is yeah, yeah. Have you ever called anybody in your family to say, don't watch tonight? I think there was when I was like, mom, I mean, you might need to fast, you know, fast forward through episode three of season three. But, you know, God bless them. They sometimes would just fast forward to my stuff and watch my stuff because the blood and the gore was, I think, the harder thing for them to watch.

25:36But the character of The Deep was brilliant. You know, they really, everything was so funny.

25:43Rich Eisen:It's like if Aquaman was a sex addict and had no real moral compass. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like a little Zoolander in there, you know. exactly where but that's the celebrity aspect of it as well because you know it is still if you will a fake marvel world where you are put out as a movie star yeah who is also in real life still a superhero with no moral compass yeah whatsoever and a lot of flashes of moments like that right Right, right, right, right, right. But no more like super narcissistic, only really cares about like holding onto their identity and being a part of this thing and being famous, you know, really, you know, comment on fame.

26:28But yeah, a lot of the fun stuff was like the in-world like commercials too that we did, you know, that he had to do for like, he was also like a D-list actor. Like he'd be like, he was in these like Lifetime movies and like did soy sauce commercials, which is really, really fun. So I thought, you know, they really played into all that and Amazon marketing played into all that. It was really, really fun. No doubt about it.

26:49Rich Eisen:I mean, I think, Chris, you were the one who was just like, you have to watch the boys. You have to watch the show. Because you were like, this is wild. And I'm like, I haven't had the time. And you're like, you got to do it. Make the time. Do it. You won't regret it. But it's so, like you said, it's so sick and twisted. And I can't stop watching it, though. Yeah, no, I know. And for the Superman character to be on the plane, you think he's going to save everybody. Oh, my God. Exactly. No, no, no. I'm not saving anyone. No, no. I can't carry this plane. Well, I mean, and it's played by Anthony Starr, who is unreal.

27:21Rich Eisen:Yeah. As just the most, like, imagine Superman having, again, no moral compass. He views all the people he saves as helpful to his image and his world. Like, it's all narcissistic. None of it is altruistic. Yeah. It's wild. He's also deeply insecure when you see his quiet moments. He's like obsession with milk. Oh, my God. There is no show like it. There's no show like it. And I know they were kind of wanting to cast, like maybe put a bunch of friends in it and famous. But then they kind of went away from that idea. And I think he made a tape. He'd done Banshee, the show Banshee. And I think he made one.

28:01He was in New Zealand, made one tape. And I think they were like, that's our guy. And it was really a quick kind of a casting thing. but I can't imagine anyone else playing that role. He should have gotten a little more love, award show love, to be honest, but yeah.

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28:14Rich Eisen:I agree, and there's the most famous meme where he's realizing his awfulness is being celebrated by a crowd, and he's sort of in shock, and then suddenly he's smiling. That was used as a meme for a good, solid two years, and it's still everywhere. The memes that have come from this show are just so top-notch. They're amazing. You can use them for anything. Right, right, right. Yeah, and people do in our group texts all the time. Oh, really? It's really embarrassing, yeah. What group texts are we talking about? You know, just like local, my like, you know, like friends and family group texts, but they still pop up.

28:51Is Romo hitting you with one? He's not, actually. Romo's not, no. Is Romo watching the boys? Yeah, I think they still watch it. I think they do. They support. Yeah, there he is. Look at you and your brother. There he is. Love Tony, man. Dude. Yeah.

29:05Rich Eisen:What would be his superpower? Oh, good one. What would it be? Hyping stuff up? Dinner parties. I think he's a very good... Is he really? Yeah, he's really good. Tony's hilarious and charming at all times. That's not surprising at all. I know. But you know, like the Curb Your Enthusiasm middle seat. Where's the sit? You heard that? Like, if you're a middle, that means you're good at a dinner party. He'd be a middle seat guy? He's definitely not a middle seat guy. Oh, he's not? No, no, no. No, I'm not talking about on a plane. You're talking about at a table. like when you're sitting in the middle on the side there's one person on either side of you curb you there's curb said you're a middle seat guy i remember at a table yes yes so he'd be a he'd be a middle seat guy every dinner party yeah he's like hyping everything you know these mashed potatoes are pretty good here we go you know he's good man uh what is your i forgot what's your football team you got one or you know boys still so you you know was that born out of tony joining your family or no it wasn't actually i have there's pictures of me and my sister in like 94 with like cowboy starter jackets you know cowboy starter yeah yeah we loved it my dad went to i think the 93 one here at the road at the rose bowl okay we've been cowboys fans our whole life so it was it was yeah it was a ride watching him play i mean it was unbelievable you know the it was like a drug really you get there and you're so invested emotionally into into him and the in the touchdowns and the win and the loss, it was really, the highs and the lows were really incredible.

30:34Rich Eisen:If somebody had told your dad at the Super Bowl that your daughter's going to marry the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, you'd have been like, what the hell, get out of here. You'd have been like, no, no, no. You'd have been like, absolutely not. TJ lives and dies the Dallas Cowboys over there as well. Are you? I'm so sorry. There you go. There you go. Fuck, man. We've been struggling, though. There it is. Nice. All right. It's hard to give it up, man. And every day they want me to give it up, and I just can't do it. I can't. It's lonely out there, yeah, but it's been tough. All right, so we got a photograph of you.

31:10Rich Eisen:When did you play golf with Rory McIlroy, dude? When did that happen? That was incredible, yeah. I think it was a couple years ago at an Omega Watch event in Florida, actually, at this place called Pine Tree, I want to say. It was kind of a famous course out there. and yeah and they didn't tell me the night before he was like my buddy Scott who kind of ran the event and was like yeah we put you with Rory and I was like no way that's like for me it's athletes I get like Tiger and I get starstruck but so that was I was nervous around him and he could not have been a better guy he wasn't like this is an obligation I have to be at this thing he was the coolest guy we kind of played in this you know we were technically a team but he was you know pounding the ball 350 you know right next so what was it one of those where you you could play you played one person's drive was it a scramble it was a shamble i think a shamble so you would then you would then play off of the longest drives ball basically yeah yeah did you play off his drive every single time every single time yeah i don't think now alfonso ribera was in that for some as well he can play he also strikes me as a guy like no i'm gonna we're gonna use one of my drives like no no i don't care who rory mcelroy is i'm a stick in my own right yeah yeah yeah we're gonna use one of my drives for sure am i right it's what he struck me is that totally okay yeah but will you use rory's drive every time i take it back we we use my shot on a par three it was only like a 115 but that is that That is dialed for my 56 or maybe 54.

32:48Atta boy. And Rory, I mean, it was dead on line, but he just went over. It just went over, the green, like 10 yards. Okay. And I stuck a sand wedge. Yeah, you did. We used mine. You threw a dart. I threw a dart out. Did you say to Rory, I got this? I did. I was like, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me the ball. Anyone have the ball mark? Yeah, yeah. This is my tie. Did it repair Rory? Yeah, it was great.

33:11Rich Eisen:You're taking your glove off as you're walking to the green. I got this, Rory. The club? Yeah, thanks, Roy. Thanks for playing, pal. See you at the carts. I like it. All right. He was the best, though. You know, I'm asking about his whoop and everything. You know, I was like a little nerd. But it was awesome, yeah, to see him. To see him play and see what he can really do, like, when you're in, like, an intimate, how he shapes the ball and kind of how he would line up a putt. I'm like, wow, that's like 30 yards, you know, left. And he would just, it was really, yeah, incredible. That's great. So not a long walk spoiled at all.

33:40Rich Eisen:Like something that he's a cool dude, exactly what you'd expect or hope. it's the best not having a bad day it's i mean that's pretty cool two green jackets now too i mean there's no doubt that you saw this year that is it was house money for him yeah you know what i mean yeah and that he could be locked in in a way yeah that he's now been the dam's broken you know what i mean like that that is a true analogy that you can make with him right now And he was talking about how not only was the Masters the last kind of thing on his back, but the grand slam weighed heavy on him, too. Right. When that was done, and a lot of times when those guys figure out how to win at Augusta, they can kind of at least get close every time.

34:25He didn't think he was going to do it again. But that's rarefied error. Like, to go back to back is awesome. I mean, yeah.

34:32Rich Eisen:How many strokes is Tony giving you? Oh, Tony's got to give me at least 18, probably. I'm about to scratch. golfer he's about to scratch he's what what's your i used to be better i'm probably bogey golf like 14 is kind of okay all right all right i can i can potentially hang with you yeah i mean i'm i'm double bogey yeah i i finished second to last when i saw you and well stableford and tahoe that's that's not a bad way to score you know what stableford is was not my friend at the american century championship by any of the stableford wasn't my friend there were no nothing was my friend but look by the way that's a great shot that was a great shot let's put that back up one more time.

35:10Rich Eisen:This is you coming out of the sand. The video is going right back into the sand. You're using a yellow ball. That is a great shot. It doesn't matter where the ball goes. You're just looking good. You've got that swing, the follow through. You're staring at it. Fun tournament, too. Fun time out there in Tahoe. It's hard to beat, right? Oh, my God. The American Century Championship is the best. We were just talking about Ray Romano yesterday because I lost to him in the karaoke okay it's a stinging defeat that i still can't get over right right right and then he goes i would think you'd be more upset with the way you played golf and i'm like that's true did you do karaoke i came late to that oh my god i missed it i did some at sinatra normally that's life is my go-to i don't know why i switched up to new york new york i felt that'd be more of a crowd pleaser song that everyone might know a little bit more than that's life yeah uh might have been um one of those decisions i'd like to take back um certainly since ray beat me did uh and his kids did uh lose yourself by eminem it's impressive over but did you see the kelseys do their performance did you i came to the tail end i saw him i saw them do their performance yeah i can own a stage he's got some pretty good so why didn't you play you played before haven't you see i get scared i have i have i've played before with with my buddy miles teller i um Yeah, he played.

36:32My whole family goes. Tony's up there with the nephews. Yeah. It's just easier. Pressure's off. Pressure's off. The worse you play, the earlier your tee time is, right? Tell me about it. I was up with the roosters.

36:45Rich Eisen:I was crowing for everybody on the final day. The fans are light out there, but doing a line drive into someone's kidney is not my idea. I get so scared. And everyone thinks you're pros out there. They're wrapped around like Happy Gilmore or Tiger back in the day, and they don't know that, you know, like only the top five guys out there are not going to, you know, tough one in the woods. I thought to myself, I'm going to do well enough. I'm going to do well enough. I promise I'm going to do well enough. And my caddy, money manager of the stars, Don Weir, says to me right around hole six, he hands me three golf balls.

37:18Rich Eisen:He goes, here, sign these. I'm like, why? And he goes, to hand out to people you're going to hit. And I'm like, no, damn it, but great idea. He's thinking ahead. You want your caddy thinking ahead. Oh, totally. It's a party out there, but you have a new respect for the people that can do it in front of people. Swing in front of people, it's a whole other deal. So it's fun, but I bowed out. So what is your favorite scene from the boys? Oof. What is your favorite scene? Favorite scene? That's a good question. I guess I'd have to say season one, I'm sitting there in this van, and we're shooting the interior in a warehouse somewhere.

38:01They're shaking the van, and there's like an animatronic green dolphin in the back. I'm supposed to be saving from Oceanland. And I'm like spritzing them down with the spritzer, and they're doing the thing. And I'm like, what the hell kind of show are we making? I remember thinking, what is this? I hear people laughing at Video Village. I'm like, I'm having a great time, but is anyone going to connect with this? you know and uh and then that friday at like 1 a.m i have a video and they had to do the exterior and they like ejected it out of a windshield you know he gets run over by a semi and like it was uh that's what i was that but that turned out to be my favorite scene i was like wow then what they did with it was you know it was it was good it was like you know you're trying to save him and then he just like it was like the fugitive but like with the dolphin and it was amazing like i'm driving the ambulance but it was ridiculous so that was my favorite scene and i we must say

38:53Rich Eisen:no animals were harmed in the making of that scene but it is exactly what i'm saying very few shows will just make me go holy crap like that i didn't see coming right that is really wild and that is unlike anything else yeah you know like that is that is the boys when are you going to do that again never so that was in a nutshell for you now you're next up with the land right the The show that's coming about the Cleveland Browns, Dan Fogelman's NFL-related show, following the Cleveland Browns and a father-son connection and father-son's connection with the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, I'm excited about this.

39:33Rich Eisen:Who are you playing in that? So I play the GM of the Browns, actually. You do? Young, like Les Snead-type guy. Okay, yeah. Yeah, and it was awesome. Chris Maloney plays the coach. Christopher Maloney is so fantastic in this role. I've seen the first three. It is, it's awesome. I don't want to say too much about it, but I'm ecstatic about it. And he was so great to work with. He like is the guy. He's kind of like a Dan Campbell-esque type coach. You just fall in love with him right away on screen. He's great. The show is awesome. For Hulu, right? For Hulu, yes. For Hulu. William H. Macy plays the owner.

40:05That's right. It's great. Manny Moore, Chloe Bennett, with the Dars. I mean, it was awesome.

40:08Rich Eisen:I saw a sizzle reel for it because we were shooting some scenes for it at the draft. Yeah. Because they, you know, I'm in draft day. So they're like, we need some realism. So, yeah, Ian, me, DJ, Charles Davis, and, you know, also shot a scene for it at the draft. Roger Goodell got up there and drafted, made a draft, he did this for draft day too. Fans weren't like confused or booing because he did it in an empty Radio City music hall. He literally walked up to the podium with fans there for the Steelers and announced a fake, Cleveland Brown quarterback draft pick who got booed. I did. Because the Steelers fans just saw Brown's helmets and saw the commissioner make an announcement and thought, like, they don't know.

40:58Rich Eisen:It was in Pittsburgh. Right, right, right. They booed him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that on social media. So Brown's fans should take heart. Steelers fans hate you so much they're booing the drafting of fake quarterback for a show that they don't even know maybe exists yet. Right, exactly. that's how deep the rivalry is yeah yeah yeah it's good so i look forward to that too we'll have you back when you're when that comes me too i'd love to come back yeah come on yeah yeah come on again i can't wait to see your moment too it's gonna be good i you know what i i can't wait to see all this stuff i like showing up places where people like oh i saw you and i'm like why are you so surprised um the series finale for the boys that's a bummer uh but still congratulations no no no question about it may 20th all four seasons of the boys can be checked out on prime video right now, the fifth and final season.

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43:36Rich Eisen:Pella.com slash Eisen. Make life brighter with Pella windows and doors. Manny in El Paso, Texas. Manny! Say something to us. What's up, Manny? You there, Manny? He's up. Yes, I am. Sorry about that. Gentlemen, how are we doing? What's up, Manny? How are you doing, buddy? It's cracking. Well, just right away, Chris, what would Cage want when he wins a green jacket? What would he want for his meal? and for next year's tournament, sir, I think you should take your son's and throw down the gauntlet on Ray Romano. Now, the last thing I want to mention, the draft was a pretty good success. What was your favorite moment?

44:17Rich Eisen:I got a couple. Fernando Mendoza sitting with his mom, hearing his Fred Flintstone bowling ringtone. The little kid that yelled out, Steve, you still suck. Of course, the NFL host, Mr. Rich Eisen, is always a plus. But then my other favorite moment was Pittsburgh's own Batman, Michael Keaton, making a picture. That was great. That was fun. Other than that, guys, I miss you guys. It's good to chat with you. Be safe. Be kind. Let's watch some sports, everybody. Have a good day, everybody. Manny and El Paso, everybody. Manny. All right, brother. Mark Ingram's son, right? Oh, yeah. And he said Steelers still suck.

44:51Rich Eisen:Yeah, yeah. Come see me. Come see me. Big trust. You were outnumbered there, Mark. I'm going to do a top five of top five favorite draft moments. I love it. So we'll hold off on answering that part of the question. What would Cage's master's menu be? Great question. Probably chicken nuggets, nuggets, pizza for sure. Yeah. Basically your menu smoothies. Yeah. How much, how much difference would your menu be from, from his, you know, I'd probably farm out some ideas. What does that mean? Well, I'd ask some people what, what their thoughts are. Oh no, I know what you would do. Kind of class it up.

45:29Rich Eisen:I know what you would do. Oh yeah. You would make Gary Player and Nicholas and Faldo and Stadler draft food. Well, you know, it's not the worst idea. Sorry, DJ. You can't get what you want because Craig Stadler took it previous round. Not the worst idea. Mike Weir took your food, Bubba Watson. Faldo took that. They'll take your jacket away. First of all, you got to get your jacket first. You know, I'm a little far away from that at the moment. It seems like Cage has a better chance of getting a jacket than you. Well, I think my days have passed. You know? I never do. You're a tremendous slouch.

46:08Rich Eisen:Tremendous slouch. You know, I'm down. I'm under eight these days. Imagine having a burger draft. You've won a Masters jacket. I would die. And suddenly you do your schmecky birthday celebration. You institute at the Masters. That's what I would love. All right, Phil, you're on the clock. What do you got? Chairman Ridley would be like, get out of here, man. You're never invited back. Sir Nick Faldo, we're waiting. You might as well whip out a cell phone. The peanut butter burger was really good that year. Yeah, Mike's been to one. Two. Why two? Yeah. I'd ask you for wine selections, obviously.

46:45Rich Eisen:I appreciate that. I'd love to dive into that wine cellar. Rich would be like, open that door. But I'd have to get a green jacket. Like, again. Burger Draft at the Masters. Don't forget, you've got to look some of the greatest players ever and say, what do you want to have tonight? You can't have it. No. Because one guy like Trevor Immelman took it, Jack. The bacon cheeseburger. You know what I mean? They accommodate all requests. I understand. So they would have to do this. They would have to do the burger draft at the Masters Championship. The Masters. The photo. Just saying. The photo. TJ is no interested in doing this.

47:22Rich Eisen:No one would be happy in that photo. Everyone would have a frown. They didn't get what they wanted. All right. Check out TJ and O'Shea for no contest wrestling later on today. O'Shea tapped out of this show today. That's called a hostile work environment, right? Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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