Hour 3: NFC & AFC South Breakdowns, Draymond’s Forgettable Weekend, CFB Roundup

17 Nov 2025 · 47 min · 18 chapters

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In short

NFL Week 11/“Hour 3” breakdowns plus college football and NBA talk, ending with a Monday Night Football preview (Raiders vs Cowboys).

Guests

No named guests appear in this transcript. The show is hosted by Rich Eisen with co-hosts/callers (e.g., William in Kansas, Al in Dallas).

Key claims

  • Josh Jacobs’ knee has “no major structural damage,” so he’s week-to-week.
  • The Panthers’ 30-27 OT win over the Falcons knocked out Michael Penix Jr. and Drake London; Bryce Young threw 448 yards (career high/franchise record), putting Carolina in NFC South contention.
  • Atlanta is 3-7 and must win out; next stretch includes New Orleans and the Jets.
  • Jacksonville can still win the AFC South if it wins next games; it beat the Chargers by 29 despite Jacksonville mistakes earlier.
  • NBA: Draymond Green got into it with a fan in New Orleans; the fan allegedly called him “a woman”/Angel Reese.

Notable examples

  • Panthers’ division race: only a half game behind Tampa; two meetings with the Bucs remain.
  • Jaguars’ control: Chargers had 22:05 possession (lowest of season); Trevor Lawrence made mistakes but Jacksonville “road-graded” L.A. in the second half.

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NFC and AFC South Updates

1:31 to 2:24

Rich discusses the latest news and injury updates from the NFC and AFC South.

“Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”

Carolina Panthers' Recent Performance

2:24 to 4:25

Analysis of the Carolina Panthers' recent game against the Atlanta Falcons.

“All three hours is posted there as soon as we're done.”

Bryce Young's Development and Future

4:25 to 6:40

Discussion on Bryce Young's development as a quarterback for the Panthers.

“with an injury to his knee that isn't season-ending.”

Injury Impact on Teams

6:40 to 10:00

Rich analyzes the impact of injuries on various NFL teams, including the Falcons and the Chiefs.

“They're at San Francisco on a Monday nighter that I'm sure ESPN a few weeks ago was like, okay.”

Listener Call: Chiefs Discussion

10:00 to 11:48

Listener William discusses the Kansas City Chiefs and their offensive struggles.

“Can you save the season after it's been going on with Pennix?”

Jacksonville Jaguars Performance

11:48 to 14:00

Rich reviews the Jacksonville Jaguars' recent performance and future outlook.

“William in Kansas you're on the Rich Eisen Show what's up William?”

Analyzing the Jaguars' Performance

14:00 to 19:05

Learn about the Jaguars' recent game and their strategy moving forward.

“and a little bit of the weird stuff that we don't normally see with them where they're not taking – they're missing this, they're missing that.”

College Football Highlights

20:23 to 25:52

Discussion about recent college football games and standout moments.

“Back here on the Rich Eisen Show on ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance.”

Draymond Green's Eventful Weekend

25:52 to 28:05

An analysis of Draymond Green's on-court incidents over the weekend.

“I mean, Wembonyama on an out-of-bounds play.”

Draymond Green's Fan Encounter

28:05 to 29:16

A discussion about Draymond Green's reaction to fan insults during a game.

“You know, he got quiet though, so it was fine.”
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Criticism of Trash Talk

29:16 to 30:21

Analyzing the double standards in trash talking between athletes and fans.

“It was about, you know, Angel Reese is known sometimes for missing layups.”

Critique of NFL Officiating

30:21 to 31:23

Discussion on the poor officiating in various sports, particularly the NFL.

“That just really irked the crap out of me when he said that.”

Kevin Stefanski's Job Security

31:23 to 35:51

Speculating on the future of Kevin Stefanski as head coach of the Browns.

“people you know i i cry all the time whatever you associate with masculinity is an argument that i'm not going to get into now.”

Monday Night Football Preview

35:51 to 36:20

Previewing the upcoming Monday Night Football matchup between the Raiders and Cowboys.

“and you know they just gave Dayball more time, and you know you're not going to get one and done, unless you're like 1-15 and Jackson Dart looks terrible all of a sudden.”

Monday Night Football Preview

37:41 to 38:39

Previewing the upcoming Monday Night Football matchup between the Raiders and Cowboys.

“But this summer, during the FIFA World Cup, it's an invitation, America.”

Mike McDaniel's Coaching Situation

39:26 to 42:00

Discussing the current status and future of Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel.

“But the Dolphins' next games after their bye is home for New Orleans and then at the Jets.”

NFC and AFC South Breakdown

42:00 to 47:10

A detailed discussion on team performance and upcoming games in the NFC and AFC South.

“Gordon, who scored a touchdown in this game, he snuck into the second row of the press conference and asked the final question of Ollie Gordon II, talk a little bit about how well you're coached.”

NFC and AFC South Breakdown

47:33 to 47:51

A detailed discussion on team performance and upcoming games in the NFC and AFC South.

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1:27Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. And the beast is in once again. Josh Allen. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Lots in the touch and the Broncos have won it. The Rich Eisen Show. Coming up on today's show. College football roundup. Complete week 11 recap. Monday night football preview. Your phone calls, latest news and more. And now, Rich Eisen.

2:01Rich Eisen:Hour number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Hello, Disney Plus audience. Hello, ESPN app audience. Hello, ESPN radio audience. ESPN radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. Hello, Sirius XM channel 80 audience. Hello to our podcast listeners because you matter to us as well. All three hours available. If you miss anything, you can listen to us whenever you want. You can watch us whenever you want as well on our Disney Plus page. All three hours is posted there as soon as we're done. YouTube.com slash RichEyesAndShow. Let me get the exact follower subscriber count. 1 ,021 ,060. Oh, 61.

2:40Rich Eisen:Trust me, I won't do that the rest of the show. But that's the way we're rolling here on the program. And Overreaction Monday, the pod has been up for the first two hours of this show. So go get it. Leave a comment. call me stupid. You don't want to invite that. I mean, it's going to happen anyway. Shout out Eagles fans. That might be the nicest thing you get told, too. Eagles fans, I love them. They forget that I was the one last year who was ahead of everyone nationally in saying that they were a juggernaut and were going to win the Super Bowl. But now I'm a hater. You know what, Chris? What are you going to do, right?

3:16I don't know. What can you do? Except just keep on making takes.

3:20Rich Eisen:Keep on making takes with respect. And I will. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We'll take your calls this hour. Listen, a couple pieces of injury news to lead off this hour. Yeah, for sure. My longtime buddy, Adam Schefter, reporting no major structural damage in Josh Jacobs' knee. He's week to week. That's huge. He's week to week. Week to week to week. So it's better than done for the year, which it's possible that Michael Penix Jr. is. And I'll tell you who looks done for the year, though, unfortunately, is the Atlanta Falcons. And the Carolina Panthers go into Atlanta yesterday and take on a massive, massive game from Bijan Robinson and absorb it and go into overtime and win the game in overtime, knocking both Michael Penix Jr.

4:20Rich Eisen:and Drake London from the game. Looks like London might miss some time as well with an injury to his knee that isn't season-ending. But the Carolina Panthers take this moment in time with Bryce Young and take Ted McMillan and Rico Dowdle and ball them all up and fall down 21-7 and win this game by the final of 30-27 and deal a crushing blow to the once upon a time 3-2 Atlanta Falcons. They were 3-2 after beating the Bills on Sunday night and feeling really good about themselves going into their game at San Francisco. And they haven't won since. five losses in a row now three and seven heading to new orleans next week which as we know isn't a given as the panthers can tell you they lost to new orleans at home and we were wondering if the panthers could recover from that and the answer is how does 448 yards passing from bryce young sound and what the panthers have done is put themselves in position this year understandably to not only make the playoffs but potentially win the division because as i mentioned the falcons beating the bills for their last win in week five those bills beat the bucks in western new york while the panthers were coming from behind to win and in the NFC South right now, they're only a half game behind Tampa.

6:10Rich Eisen:And they haven't played Tampa yet. Now, Tampa, as we know, is not fully constituted on offense. I get it. And they should be getting healthy. Because right now, Carolina's last three games of the season is where rubber's going to meet the road. They play the Bucs twice. wrapped around a home date with Seattle, which could be an NFL Network game on a Saturday, the 27th, that I'm calling, actually. Before that, though, they got two doozies. They're at San Francisco on a Monday nighter that I'm sure ESPN a few weeks ago was like, okay. Like Larry David. Now they're like, okay. All right. Because this is a big one.

6:55It's currently an honors team, seventh in the playoff standings in the NFC against the team that's ninth in the playoff standings with the Lions in between them. I mean, that's what Carolina's done now. And what Carolina has also done is give themselves a chance to make the playoffs this year and give themselves a chance to win the division this year. But at its very least, what they have done is shown that Bryce Young can be their quarterback. And Dave Canales is the guy who's been in charge of this kid's development. And who knew the development involved

7:34Rich Eisen:benching him almost right away. And we were part of that drumbeat last year, 100 % saying, did the Panthers even know what they're doing? Did they hire the right guy? Was Canales ordered to give the code red on Bryce Young? Is he even in charge there with the owner being David Tepper? and should Young even just demand to be traded? Because he's clearly, I'm not even wanting, I don't want to be here because I don't want to, you don't want me here and I don't know why you hired this guy if it's to bench me. And look at what's happened. And they've drafted well around him. Before the season, like really, you're going to trade Adam Thielen?

8:19You're going to trade Adam Thielen. You're going to trade that veteran presence in that Who had a great year last year. In that wide receiver room. Exactly. and Lee Gett last year's 32nd overall draft choice who made news last year just by talking but remember he was basically saying you know hey they told me they're going to take me with the top pick of the second round but they took me in the first round it's just like yeah we had a trade up to get you because we wanted you and you basically told everybody 83 yards receiving and McMillan a buck 30 yesterday and Bryce Young's 448 yard passing day.

8:58Which is, in fact, a career high and franchise record. Franchise record, man. Hey, we know we're benching you for Andy Dalton, but in week 11, next year, you're not only going to start for us, you're going to have the career record and franchise record and passing yards. And we showing to everybody that we can not only make the playoffs and win the division, but we are zooming past the Atlanta Falcons in the NFC South Diamond Lane. And we're waving at the Falcons saying, we've got enough people in our car. What about you? They passed him. They passed him yesterday. They already passed him in record, but really passed him by sweeping Atlanta for the first time since 2013.

9:49Okay, we see you, Carolina. second straight and third time in the last four meetings at Atlanta the game's gone to overtime and they're 2-1 in those games they have done it they're doing it against Atlanta which has to look around and go okay remarkably Kirk Cousins if Penix is done for the year if not for a significant part you want to talk about role reversal last year Penix was called upon late in the season to try and save the season after what was going on with Cousins. Now it's Cousins late in the season. Can you save the season after it's been going on with Pennix? It's crazy. It's crazy.

10:32Can't make this stuff up. As they are 3-7 Atlanta. Their next few games they're at New Orleans, at the Jets. Gotta win them. Gotta win them. You even have to say at 3-7, they gotta win out. They got to win out. And I feel for Penix too, man. Certainly after the kerfuffle that I was unfortunately helping propagate at one point, that the coaching staff wasn't there for Penix because he made an answer to a question about who was in his circle outside the building. And it was cut up and posted on social media as if he was answering about who was helping him on the field, period. and he didn't mention his coaching staff, it all was working, man.

11:24It was clicking. Bijan was doing his thing. Algiers scored two, and we're not sitting there talking about vulturing because Bijan was doing his thing and Drake London was doing his thing, and they were doing it. And Carolina just said, screw it. We're the better team, and we're the better team in division, and we're the better team to move forward with. Wild. Wild. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial here on the program. William in Kansas you're on the Rich Eisen Show what's up William? Hello? You're on sir you are on what's up bud? Well first of all let me say thank you for taking the call I've been a fan for years.

12:01Thank you sir I have a comment and question about the Chiefs.

12:05Rich Eisen:Yep I want to leave with the fact that we have not had a thousand yard rusher since 2017 during Kareem Hunt's rookie year and I don't think our offensive line is really built for a heavy run game Maybe that would have changed if we actually got Brees Hall, but I don't really know. And I've seen a lot of people on social media calling for Andy Reid's head. That's crazy talk. Move on from that, William. That's nuts. These people... That's nuts. Okay. Well, my question for you is, do you think that if we were to have gotten Brees Hall, do you think we would have been capable of running the ball well behind that offensive line?

12:47Rich Eisen:Yes, I do. because you've got the interior guys, and the question is, you know, the ones on the edges, and I understand that, you know, pass blocking, run blocking, you know, it's more than gold jacket, green jacket, you know what I mean? But the bottom line is, you know, it does look like an offense that's in need of a turbo charge in the same way that we watch San Francisco's offense that appear to be good enough to win a Super Bowl get turbo charged with Christian McCaffrey, as a for instance it does look like it's in need of that um and and they're just like believing in their system um which did william work last year in one run and one score games but this year they're not executing in a way and it does look like a bit of a hangover that i still can't believe we're ascribing to the chiefs potentially but they do still listen man and thank you for the call and thank you for the compliment.

13:42Rich Eisen:They still have the horses. They do. And don't pay attention to Andy Reid needs to go. That's silly. I've not seen that anymore. All right. But listen, as I've mentioned, the issue with the Chiefs isn't just the one-score stuff and a little bit of the weird stuff that we don't normally see with them where they're not taking – they're missing this, they're missing that. they're blowing this coverage they're blowing that sack they're blowing that you know protection um but the ultimate problem for them is um is that even if they do figure out whatever is their problem in one score games and things like that the reality of the situation is they've lost every single occupant of the wildcard spot.

14:39Rich Eisen:And they've got tiebreaker problems. And the Jaguars are one of them. Hey, man. The Jaguars, let's just talk about them a little bit. How about that for a Carolina Jacksonville segment here? But hey, you gotta give it up.

14:56Rich Eisen:Jacksonville played a terrific football game yesterday, and this was a team that kept shooting themselves in the foot with all different problems on both sides of the ball in penalties and making mistakes. And Trevor Lawrence wasn't one of them either. That was helping. He was making mistakes as well. Second half, they came out and they road-graded the Los Angeles Chargers, which you are not usually doing. Chargers are one of the best teams in terms of time of possession. I have it right here. The Los Angeles Chargers are top notch in time of possession. And the Jaguars ran it up for 192 total yards and beat them by 29 and hardly let them have the ball and took advantage of what the Steelers couldn't take advantage of.

15:56And others taking on the Chargers. which is Herbert is not being protected as well as they want him to be protected

16:06Rich Eisen:because they have so many injuries up front, and they beat up Herbert so badly that Jim took him out and said, Trey Lance, it's your time. And the same thing that I said about Shador, I'm sure Trey Lance has not had many snaps with the ones at all. And had it a little bit longer, though. And so, yeah, man, they got the same amount of football. The Chargers only possessed the ball for 22 minutes and five seconds of this game. Lowest of the season. And the Chargers had led the NFL in time of possession coming into this game with 33 minutes and 35 seconds. I mean, it's more than a half of football, which helps you win football games.

16:51But Jacksonville got Etienne going and Tootin going before he got hurt. and the thing with Jacksonville is that is not only a win that can help them get in as a wild card. They have yet to play the Colts yet. Did you know that? They have yet to play the Colts,

17:10Rich Eisen:and Jacksonville's next game is at Arizona, and then at Tennessee, before they welcome in the Colts to start their December schedule. They're at Denver too, man. But the bottom line is, if they win their next two games, and I know there's a lot of ifs to set up their game against the Colts who are taking on Kansas City next themselves. They have a chance to win the division and I didn't go higher register, did I? They 100 % do. They're two games behind the Colts. It would be helpful for them if they win their next two and the Colts lose at least one of their next two and Indianapolis' next two are at Kansas City and home for Houston.

17:55Rich Eisen:and Jacksonville has already held serve home against Houston. They've already, as you know, beaten Houston twice. I think I got that right. They can win this division. They can win it. So, as you know, Jacksonville came back on Houston in a big, big way to follow it up by smoking the Chargers like that. That is massive. Pardon me. Houston came back on Jacksonville. My bad. So they split. They could still win the division. That's basically what I'm saying. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. More of your calls. A little college football, a little NBA, a little bit of mixed grab.

18:43Rich Eisen:Because, you know, it's not just the National Football League played on Sunday. It feels like it. Because there were four windows of football, and I woke up damn near at midnight to start talking about it.

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20:28College football, everybody. My Wolverines. I mean, we turned it over. I think, was it four or five times? We turned it over five times and missed two field goals and still won. I don't know how the hell that is. In Wrigley Field. Do you see any of that video? Yeah, I had it on the quad box. Pretty good. How is Sarah with Georgia beating up on Texas? Oh, my goodness. I mean, stressful first half, and then second half just kind of took care of business, and she was kind of laughing. Right. You know. The big game involving a Texas team before it, Texas A &M falling down to South Carolina. 30-7? 30-3.

21:0730-3, right. Right, and they came back from 27 down. Came back to win. And South Carolina, at that time, was battling not only Texas A &M, but law enforcement. I did see that. Which gave one of the South Carolina players the business in the tunnel. It's like, hey, apparently that immediately got removed from his post. From game day duty. Yeah, from his post, yeah. That was wild. Wild. That was an incredible game. For some reason, I picked that game to focus on. Okay. And I took a screenshot. 11-34. It's left in the third. It's 30 to three. And I'm like, all right, I think South Carolina might have this.

21:43And then by 10 minutes left in the fourth, it's now 31 to 30. Oh, so you screen grabbed that on your phone? Yeah, just because I wanted to see the timestamp of how they came back. Oh, so that's what you're doing instead of texting us all back. No one texts on the Saturday, though. This was Saturday. I don't know about that. This was Saturday. I don't know about that. So at least you are on your phone. and you confirm you're on your phone watching sports. Yeah, of course. So you know that you're on the cut, right, tonight? Yeah, I know. Okay. At this point, I can't jump onto the text chain now.

22:17Of course you can. I can't. Of course you can jump on it. Come on, DJ. You want to be guillotined in the worst way. No, I don't. I actually want to win, and I'm going to win tonight. By the way, you need Javante to go off. He will. He will. And I need B-Rock Bowers to not go off.

22:34Rich Eisen:Speaking of Georgia, did you hear what Kirby Smart had to say after the game beating up on Texas? This is quite the soundbite from the head coach of Georgia. Yeah, it's the approach we take. We're going to dominate and try to win the fourth quarter. It's what we do in practice. It's what we do in the offseason. It's what we build our core culture around is being a more physical team. You have to recruit physical players, and they have to buy into that process. I don't know that a lot of these kids nowadays, they want to check. They don't want physicality. And if you have the check and no physicality, you end up with nothing.

23:12So we're not just getting checks at our place. We're hitting people.

23:20Some kids want the check but not the sweat and sometimes the blood that comes with it. That's a bar right there. I'm telling you, man. Was he referring to Texas or he was just referring to kids in general? It doesn't even matter. Kirby doesn't really take shots, so I assume it was in general. He's talking about just in general. Some kids just want the checks. They don't want the rest of it that comes with it. We represent some physical players here. So Alabama loses. It was a good day for Georgia. Well, Texas A &M did win, but it didn't look great. And the next day for Georgia, watching that game last night, the Eagles are getting announced.

24:02It was like, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia. They have four defensive players, right, on the Eagles? That mature kid for Oklahoma can play football. Yeah, you called him Baker-esque. He looks like him, don't you think? I like him a lot. He's got some sand in the pants, man.

24:22Rich Eisen:He's got some... Moxie. Moxie, yeah, man. I like watching him play football except when he beat Michigan we couldn't stop him we couldn't stop him on the ground we couldn't stop him in the air it was like a whole Dr. Seuss run we couldn't stop him in a box we couldn't stop him with a fox or on fox I don't think that game was on so I mean I got two weeks left I got two weeks to go So mock draft has mature to the Raiders. Dude, mature to the Raiders would be really fun. The mature to the Raiders would be a lot of fun. And I think Raiders fans wouldn't mind it because he's good. He's really good.

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25:12But I got two weeks to go. Rich, live your best life for two weeks at least. I got two weeks left. Let's see. You win. That would be great. I mean, again, thought last year was like a pipe dream that you would beat them and then you do. In a horseshoe. Yes, I mean. Right. And then, you know, they went on to win the Natty. Yeah, which they wouldn't have done if they had lost, if they'd beaten us. Probably not. I mean, I don't know. Maybe not. I like having my fun with it. I got two weeks left.

25:42Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. So, Jerry Mon Green had the weekend.

25:52Rich Eisen:I mean, Wembonyama on an out-of-bounds play. This was on, I believe, Prime Video. And he dunks on Draymond. And I guess, did the officials call a foul before the dunk somehow? Or I don't know, whatever. But it was an inbounds play. And Draymond is, it's unbelievable. He's 6 '8", right? 6 '8", 6 '9". Draymond is a big, thick dude. Okay, and Wemba Nyama is like a foot taller than he is. Has a whole head. And he dunks on him and then stares down at him. The only thing that I could think of in that moment is it truly did look like John Sally looking down on Martin Lawrence in Bad Boys. That's funny.

26:40Rich Eisen:And there it is. Oh, nice. Tell me that's just like the only thing missing is the glasses. Wemba's not wearing glasses. That's good. That is great. That's it. Well, this one's not as bad, but the picture of Jordan with Muggsy Bogues on him. Where Mike's throwing the ball up, and Muggsy's in the squad. I mean, that was something else. But Curry also scored damn near 50, a 50 piece. Wild. And then Draymond last night, a fan. Where was this again last night? in New Orleans, where, by the way, I guess they can announce their coach's name now because they bounced him. They fired Willie Green. The Pelicans were like, our coach is being booed so much, we need to fire him, and now we can introduce our coach's name.

27:35Rich Eisen:But some fan is barking at Draymond throughout the entire game, and Draymond goes up to him, and the fan extends his hands, Like, I'm not here to touch you, or I don't know what happened. But apparently the fan was calling him Angel Reese throughout the game. Not a compliment, I imagine. Well, again, Draymond had this to say afterwards, after the refs had to separate potentially the two. What happened in the second quarter with that fan? He just kept calling me a woman. It was a good joke at first, but... What did you say? You can't keep calling me a woman. Now the f*** it is. I don't know what.

28:21You can't keep calling me a woman. You know, he got quiet though, so it was fine. You can say, what did he say when you got over there? Well, he was talking at first. You know, and then you get a little closer. And he didn't really say much of it.

28:40Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, the fan who has every right to... Respectfully trash talk. Trash talk. Will definitely get quiet when somebody much bigger and larger gets right in your face. Just again, it's just a part and parcel of just how too close these fans are to some NBA players. And, you know, Draymond taking issue with his manhood being questioned, that he's got kids on the way. I mean, I think the insinuation wasn't about his manhood. It was about, you know, Angel Reese is known sometimes for missing layups. Right. And being otherwise dominant on the boards. That that's a similar game. The rebound stats are so high because you're getting your own miss.

29:31That's the insinuation. Oh, my God. It's just so silly, man. And, you know, the rabbit ears that you're just you're giving the fan what what the fan wants. And you're also potentially crossing a line here. You don't want any part of, especially when you have the reputation and the past transgression. I mean, you just don't want to be part of it. Doesn't seem any opinion on this. You know, I do because, you know, it's funny because you could sit there and call my quarterback who doesn't play the same. I'm supporting you a bum, right? Out for no reason, despite the fact that everything that Dak Prescott has had to go through in his life.

30:12I'm talking about losing his mom at an early age, losing his brother. Like, you know, just to make it through that, you're not a bum, man. And I don't know why. That just really irked the crap out of me when he said that. And then, unfortunately, with Marshawn Nealon passing away, it kind of made that not matter as much. And so, yeah. So I let it go. But now I'm seeing this. It's like, so hello. This is like a pot calling the kettle black type. Like, it's cool for you to sit there and trash somebody, but someone can't say it to you. Is that is that what I guess is responsible to be at least you didn't call me a bum at

30:51Rich Eisen:at least I didn't call it. It was funny at first, which makes no sense to me. It's not a gender thing. I mean, you know, well, that's where he took the bottom line is, you know, if you feel that your manhood is being questioned your manhood is is uh in your estimation um crystallized by the fact that you have children then you know you need to understand something a little bit more about yourself right and your your own self-assuredness and i don't particularly care people you know i i cry all the time whatever you associate with masculinity is an argument that i'm not going to get into now. He's just basically saying you can't shoot.

31:35And he did it in a way that really rubbed him the wrong way. And he just went up to him, which makes no sense. Let me just tell you this. You're potentially crossing the line. Angel Reese sat in front of me at the Canelo-Terrence Crawford fight. Yes, sir. I'm not going to say anything bad about Angel Reese. By the way, who has a cameo in a house of dynamite that came out of nowhere. She does. It was out of nowhere. It was. I was like, whoa, what? I know. Her agent doing some work. Yeah, well done. Listen, guys, well done by all involved. I'm just saying. Al in Dallas. What's up, Al? How you been, sir?

32:10I'm just saying. I'm doing all right, gentlemen. A couple things I'd like to talk about. First of all, it is inconceivable how two of the four sports, yeah, to quote Princess Bride, But it's inconceivable how two of the four sports, major sports, have a horrendous officiating problem. Does it make sense that both of them are contact sports? Or hockey is obviously a contact sport? Baseball's got an officiating problem, and so does the NFL. Okay. And when you look, I mean, you're a locked-out professional procrastinating. You know, I'm not a procrastinator. That was the wrong word. I got you. Prognosticator.

32:55You know, an NFL media type. And I got to listen to Bob Papa and Carl Banks through the local games. Bob Papa, lockdown professional. You know Bob, obviously. He was eviscerating the officiating in the game. Eviscerating it to the point where it was almost like, you know, the Park Avenue guys, Rich, the employees live in New York. They get to hear this stuff. They get to hear people like yourself. to get to hear that all these guys, they got to do something about this, man. This is horrendous. And I don't know if it's because of replay. I don't know if it's changed. Same things happen to baseball.

33:32Replays made some of it better. But good Lord, it's bad. And I don't have an answer. And, you know, that's my take on that. The second thing I wanted to bring up, you talked about it before. Kevin Stefanski if the he is begging the Browns to fire him how long would that guy be out of a job

33:57Rich Eisen:let me ask you something Al again I don't know there's always an iceberg and there's a tip if you are sitting there in Cleveland and you're seeing what's going on there and you know what might be going on there and you get a sense that you could go work for the New York Giants and coach up jackson dart wouldn't you want to do that oh my god seriously like you know like would you not want to do that but i have no idea alan we don't either i i don't know what is how many kids he has and if they do love living in in the um the greater cleveland area i don't know i mean he might love it and hear stuff like this and say of course i don't want to get fired i just didn't want shador or i think dylan gabriel's better and i'm the head coach of the cleveland browns and i'm do what I need to do.

34:44Rich Eisen:He's a two-time coach of the year. And I think he's a terrific coach. But circumstances there in Cleveland are not playing out very well. They did just draft the hell out of that draft. That kid from UCLA is the defensive rookie of the year right now. He had a big defensive play yesterday. They had a great draft. And listen, just don't make it giant-centric. I mean, there's going to be a lot of jobs. The league stinks. There's going to be a lot of jobs that are going to be open. You watch the Ole Miss Florida game, right? If you watch any of that game, how many times they talk about the fact that Lane hasn't signed his extension yet?

35:23And listen, he may not go to the NFL, but you don't think he's going to use that as leverage as well? Of course. There are so many jobs that are going to be open. Stefanski, if you fire him, I mean, listen, the guy will chill out for a year and go take the team at the top, or he'll go take the Giants job, or take whatever job. Giants can be the best job. They have a quarterback that they can go to, and they're going to have the second pick, maybe even the first. Who knows? Al, thanks for the time. No question, the Giants are a terrific job. I mean, because the Marys and the Tishers aren't going anywhere,

35:53Rich Eisen:and you know they just gave Dayball more time, and you know you're not going to get one and done, unless you're like 1-15 and Jackson Dart looks terrible all of a sudden. I just don't think that's going to happen. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. 844-204-RICH, number to dial, will get you set for Monday Night Football. the Raiders and the Cowboys. What's at stake? That's coming up next right here to wrap up this Monday show on the Rich Eisen show. The Rich Eisen show, the podcast.

36:29Rich Eisen:Rich Eisen here. You can always tell when something big is happening in a city. I know what it's like when I'm traveling for big games and events. I remember being in Pittsburgh earlier this year and experiencing the beautiful architecture and passion those fans have for their home teams. That was so infectious. Now, it was a great trip. But you know what it's like dealing with the travel. The airport is packed. Hotels are booked up. Restaurants all busy. And when you have that kind of influx of visitors in your city, a lot of them are searching for a place that feels a little bit more like home during their trip.

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38:21Rich Eisen:Because right now, get a great deal on your most popular models, an adventure-ready SUV like the Hyundai Santa Fe and the Santa Fe hybrid models. there's the bold and stylish elantra packed with all the latest tech you can go all electric with the ionic drive or on our ionic six so get down your local honda dealer hyundai dealer and get away with an awesome deal right now at the hyundai getaway sales event visit hyundaiusa.com for details we just uh we just for our uh radio audience um on the tv side showed mike mcdaniel's first appearance on this program when he phoned in um he was just named the new head coach of the Miami Dolphins we went over the favorite coaching cliches we we have on this program and he said I'm going to do this in the first press conference at the combine and at the end I stood there looking at him he saw me and at the end I was like is he going to do it or is he not it's okay if he doesn't I mean I know he promised to do it but he's still a head coach in the NFL and then he just nailed it right down one after another after another i stepped out we high-fived that was the end of that so i knew he just had a certain special way about him that he would get the joke and actually use his uh platform as head coach in the nfl uh at one point for a gag and and anybody that that does things for the gag i'm always appreciative of it my favorite thing about that too is you like excusing yourself through the crowd you're like pardon me excuse me excuse me yeah and then high-fived him and then and then left the scene sort of like you don't know when to get out like a stanza with all due respect now listen though um things are not going so well for mike mcdaniel this year but he's won three of four and the one loss um cost the general manager of the job but not him and word is is that stephen ross plans to keep mike mcdaniel in the job and at 4-7 right now on a bye, the Dolphins' next games, I'm going high register.

40:21Rich Eisen:I understand that. But the Dolphins' next games after their bye is home for New Orleans and then at the Jets. And they have a chance to go to Pittsburgh on a Monday night in Week 15 having won four in a row and a chance to get to 500. That's in the ether right now. And, you know, Kurt Warner said on our program on the pregame show, it started at four in the morning Pacific, that Tua does things in the McDaniel offense that's as good as any other quarterback in the NFL in this offense, that this offense is actually perfect for him. In the same way that I'm saying, hey, you get drafted, you've got to have a coach that believes in you and then models an offense after your best skill set.

41:14Rich Eisen:and Tua can perform well in his offense. So it makes sense if you're tied to Tua the next year, the guy who's got the offense that's kind of perfect for him, you keep him too. And I know that's what some Dolphin fans don't want to hear is they have already no confidence in this guy. But listen, they're on a bye. You come back, you get healthy in the spots you need to. And then you're taking on two otherwise last place teams that are looking at their draft position, or for some players, playing for their jobs, which makes them dangerous, but still beatable. And he's still, Mike McDaniel, got it in him to have fun at a press conference.

41:56Did you see how he snuck into Ollie Gordon's press conference? Gordon, who scored a touchdown in this game, he snuck into the second row of the press conference

42:08Rich Eisen:and asked the final question of Ollie Gordon II, talk a little bit about how well you're coached. All right, Andy, this is great. That's pretty good. Roll it. What's up, Coach? Talk a little bit about how well you're a coach. You know, I would say that I feel like I'm coached well, you know. Might be a little bumps in the road, but I feel like. But, you know, I feel like I talk to you all about anything, come message y 'all, so I feel like everything cool with us. We good. Keep it light, which is definitely important. And I understand fans are like, I don't find this funny. Our season's lost. Unless it's not.

42:48I was just going to say, are they out of it? I'm telling you, they're a high-register team right now. Two winnable games, and then they go into Pittsburgh and see what happens. Yep. So they're 7-7 maybe if they win all those. Amen. And then the last three weeks, Cornshaws.

43:06Rich Eisen:Let chips fall. Let's see after that game. They're home against Cincinnati. currently a Sunday night game that I'm imagining. If you keep quiet, you'll hear the sound of a flex. Then they're home for Tampa at New England, baby. Oh, yeah. And you might be, you might. We'll be resting, guys, at that point. And you're not being anything but true. I know. I mean, maybe a month ago I would have said that, but I would be joking. Unless Vrabel's got anything like Belichick in him, which is like, we're playing them all. Didn't Wes Welker get hurt in a week 17 meaningless game? He did, in Houston, which probably cost him a Super Bowl.

43:44Tonight's game, TJ Jefferson. Varsity. Listen, 3-5-1, then you go 4-5-1. You win tonight. You're supposed to win this game tonight. Yeah, for sure. Well, stop it. No, listen, listen. Let's talk about the human side of things.

44:04Rich Eisen:The Raiders did look very good in their last game Thursday night. they gave the Broncos quite the scare and damn near won the game. Three and a half point favorite. We should win. And, you know, with, like I said, Marshawn Nealon and what happened with him, I feel like this is a time where the team's going to rally. You know what I mean? And by the way, Quinnen Williams has shown up in his first game, I believe. Is Overshown back? He was back in practice. I don't know if he's active. Well, him showing up, I don't know if he's playing tonight at some point, he's going to make you better on that second level.

44:35Rich Eisen:He was everywhere before he got hurt. Yeah, it was unfortunate. But Quentin Williams right there in the middle, man. Let's go. Him and Kenny Clark should fix the run problem. The question is the pass rush issue. And Geno's been turning it over an insane number of times. He has. To the point where Pete Carroll this week is like, two and seven, this is foreign to me, man. And it is. It is. So Cowboys win this one with all due respect to Pete Carroll and the Raiders. but they're in a tough position here at 2-7 to make a run in the AFC, certainly in a division that is gone for them. Yeah, they're toast.

45:15I think it's more about –

45:16Rich Eisen:I mean, if we're saying the Chiefs are in trouble at 5-5, 2-7, let's focus on the Cowboys here. 4-5-1, and then you go and you've got to visit Detroit next. No, pardon me. Let me get this right. No, then you're home for Philadelphia, home for Kansas City on a Thanksgiving, then you're at Detroit the following week. and Overshown is going to play there you go baby he's good you just got way stronger on the first two levels of defense way stronger almost a year since his injury and you know obviously there will be a lot of emotions thinking about their teammate but this is it buddy you got to win the one that you're supposed to win like the Monday nighter we saw him before the bye at home against Arizona you lost it at Vegas before you get the Eagles in your house and you're going to be like, okay, let's throw records out here and let's get to 5-5-1.

46:10Rich Eisen:Let's hold serve against Kansas City. 6-5-1. We'll go to Detroit. We're 7-5-1, and that's when I'll wake you up.

46:19Rich Eisen:Unless. I'll be asleep for all that. Oh, I mean. This is a wild take. Rip Van Jefferson. I'll have patience to Jack with you today. Because I'm not answering group texts. Rip Van Jefferson. Look, tonight's essential, man. It's a big game. It's going to be with heavy hearts. Of course. I think this team's going to show improvement. Cowboys win big tonight. 4-5-1. Got to have it. Got to have it in that NFC. Certainly when you're playing Detroit, and Detroit's in front of you right now in the standings, and you got Philadelphia next. They're on a roll. We got three tough. And then you got Kansas City in between it.

47:01oh baby one game at a time though and it starts tonight in a must win mode how about them Cowboys we'll check stay thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast you can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio Disney Plus and on the ESPN app the Rich Eisen Show the podcast

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