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17:04Ben Solak:i just looked it up it is i watched that over and over again as a kid that used to be on channel 11 or channel 9 on a rotation man spencer tracy back in the day what he hack it oh yeah some great

17:15Rich Eisen:funny funny funny people in that yes milton burrell oh yeah good stuff okay uh let's take Blazing Saddles this week. Oh. I hadn't seen that in a while. Susie and I are watching the 99-year-old man documentary on Mel Brooks on HBO. Oh, it's amazing. I meant to ask you about it. Where one, we just watched the first one. We haven't watched the second one because we have too many kids that just ruin it. What? Is this on? I think Zan's at home, too. Actually, he and Susie are out east right now. What I've seen of it. Deep in the snow. I haven't watched the whole thing. As he's looking at schools. Huh?

17:50Rich Eisen:I haven't watched the whole thing, but it's amazing. But Blazing Saddles. I mean. Yeah. I hadn't seen Blaine's Saddles probably like two years. So it was. Governor William J. Lepetamine. Hedley Lamar. Help me in with this. Help me in with this. Okay, I can't finish it. All right. Let's take a break. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Ben Solak is going to tell us about free agents available in Combine and so much more coming up. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast.

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20:24Rich Eisen:Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-RICH number to dial. So I was up with Zan on a little camping overnight that he had with his class. You were camping? With a GL in front of it, a little bit. He wasn't in a tent, let's just say. yeah it wasn't it was it was a at any rate he's hanging out with his friends and i'm like what what reading can i do and i i i came upon uh our next guest's article on who's available in free agency by position and then who's available in the combine by position and what teams should be able to think about do they want to because that's the conversation to be had over the next few weeks is building your roster and how best to find your person through the draft and how best to find them through free agency, which is first.

21:18Rich Eisen:And if you don't get them in free agency, then what do you do in the draft? And it's a fascinating puzzle that this is required reading, I think, for all of us here, to be honest with you. Took me two sittings to get through it. But thankfully, Zan was having so much fun with his friends at camp. I got through it because it was really good. Ben Solak here on the Rich Eisen Show, ESPN National NFL Analyst. Check out his work on the ESPN app and ESPN.com. Good to see you, Ben. How are you?

21:47Ben Solak:I'm well. My editor appreciates that two-sitting comment. Now I'm going to have to turn in shorter copy moving forward. No, don't do that. No, no, no.

21:52Rich Eisen:By the way, to heck with that because I understand this day and age. Even the New York Times tells you how long the read is going to be for you to click on it. I don't care. It's comprehensive. You gave me some terrific information, and it is soup to nuts. um and and again like what i just said that that really struck me is what do you do when you're in a position of need and you look at the combine and then you look at free agency and then you're like do you have a plan for free agency that you then need to back up if you don't get your guy or do you change up midstream and which is the deepest position combine and free agency going into the next few weeks in your estimation.

22:33Ben Solak:Edge rusher for sure. There's so many guys, right? And that's before we even get to the Max Crosby trade, like just free agency wise. Trey Hendrickson is up and Jalen Phillips are up. Both those guys are big deals. Adafi Owe, who had an enormous year with the Chargers right after the trade from the Ravens. His film, like I was much more impressed watching back on film where I was like, oh shoot, like this feels like, you know, 10, 12 sack guy. But then you get deeper, right? And you start talking about the boy Amafi who's coming out of Seattle. You know, he's available. Caleb on chasing. Joey Bosa's up this year.

23:00Ben Solak:You're like, there's just dudes on dudes at edge rusher this year in free agency. And if there's not a particular body type that you're looking for, the draft is great this year for these like bigger, longer, stronger guys. Zion Young out of Missouri, Gabe Jackass out of Illinois. There's some like denser dudes. If you can't find an edge rusher in this class, man, you can't find an edge rusher. Like, I don't know what to tell you. There's so many guys this year.

23:19Rich Eisen:Yeah, I think you Mack as well is available if you want to go snag him. So there's some real OGs. And again, I'm just wondering the fact that Tank Lawrence, after a decade in the business being added to Seattle, where they love just constantly churning one defensive lineman fresh off the bench after another, that might not be another reason why you could just sit back and maybe get an OG, get somebody who's been at it for a while.

23:48Ben Solak:Lawrence is a really important name to bring up because he was so good on running downs for Seattle. The way Seattle's defense works, they need their defensive ends to play like a gap and a half, right? Some of that run stopping two gap stuff. Lawrence was the second best edge in the league by run stop EPA this year. Only Crosby was better. And so like he's a 30 year old coming off a foot injury, but he's always been so good on rush downs. So you look at a Khalil Mack, who is he beyond his peak as a pass rusher? Absolutely. But the rushing down stuff is crazy. And like, if you're going to run this Jesse Minter, Mike McDonald defense that's proliferating, you need at least one edge who's like a capital D dude in the running game.

24:21Ben Solak:Mac fits that mold. Jadavion Clowney's up. He's always been that guy. Kingsley and Agbari from the Packers is up. Like if you need your run stopping defensive end, which now is a little bit of a prototype these days, he's available this year.

24:31Rich Eisen:What about the middle of the defensive line? What about that group, Ben?

24:35Ben Solak:It's such a way, such a bad year for defensive tackle. I have no idea why. Like if it had something to do with the market or how contracts got signed, but Mill Williams last year was like our big free agent surprise. 26 million, huge contract. this year the best free agent defensive tackle is john franklin myers who was a rotational guy for the broncos still a good player a little bit older and then after that it is calais campbell if he wants to come back it's david onyamada sheldon rankins it's a lot of like the familiar you know one year six million dollar guys that we typically hear about it is not a good year for defensive tackle and then the draft is a lot of unsure dudes peter woods out of clemson caleb banks out of florida we both we expect both these guys to go round one but it's more of like a ooh, weird class, you know, positional value, less of like, oh my gosh, Dexter Lawrence is in this class.

25:18Ben Solak:It's not that caliber. So defensive tackle this year, I don't think it's going to be the year you see a lot of movement. It might be some weirdly big contracts in free agency, just as guys go like, you know, reaching for the middle tier options because the top tier isn't there at all.

25:30Rich Eisen:You know, I'm trying to put two and two together here because we had Kyle Van Noy on the show last week, Ben, and he was talking about how, you know, he feels defensive tackle as becoming the elite defensive line grouping now because edge rushers sometimes can't get to the quarterback fast enough in this day and age of a quick release, in this day and age of maybe chipping guys along with your left tackles in that the defensive tackle group is more of a, I guess, Tiffany grouping right now. And you're saying that there's few on the market. Maybe it's just because teams that won't let them go. They're going to re-sign these guys.

26:12Ben Solak:These guys, they're getting re-signed. If you look at just the final four teams, Seattle against the Rams, the NFC, Broncos against the Patriots, and AFC, those teams are defined by their defensive tackle play. Christian Barmore and Milton Williams going against Zach Allen and Malcolm Roach. What Kobe Turner, Braden Fisk had been on the interior, Puna Ford there with Seattle, and then we all know with the Rams, we all know with Seattle, Byron Murphy there, and Dexter Lawrence. You have to build defenses through the spine. That's what we're seeing in the modern NFL. Up the middle, starting defensive tackle and then moving back to linebacker and to safety.

26:43Ben Solak:So these guys are getting secured for big contracts now because the market was a little bit depreciated. They weren't getting those big deals. So once we realize their value, oh, it's easy to sign them and sign them. Now you're seeing that top of the market expand where Milton Williams is getting that huge money, where Jeffrey Simmons and Chris Jones are signing these massive extensions. When guys like Jalen Carter and Kobe Turner start to hit free agency in the next one to two years, that's when you're going to see, okay, this market really takes off. And now maybe we'll see a little bit of a settling down and we'll see some more guys enter free agency.

27:11Rich Eisen:ESPN NFL writer, Ben Solak, fresh off of an article I read over the weekend. He's soup to nuts, full primer on who's available free agency and combine over the next six weeks right here on the Rich Eisen Show. The deepest offensive grouping then, where you're happy that you're in the market right now for this position because they're deep at the combine and free agency is what, Ben?

27:34Ben Solak:interior offensive line which there's not a lot of centers as per usual because there's only 32 guys like that's not a spot that we see a ton of movement but tyler linderbaum is in this class and linderbaum's probably going to dramatically reset the center market if he gets out of baltimore even if he stays in baltimore we're looking at who he's going to beat creed humphrey and have that biggest deal and then it's the guard spot where david edwards has been great uh from buffalo you have isaac samalo coming out of uh of pittsburgh elijah vera tucker who's an easy guy to forget you miss the entire season with the torn triceps but he was looking at being one of the highest paid guards before he started to get hurt it's interior offensive line is one of those spots that is more modular in the nfl it is easier to go get a guy from a different system drop him in and get immediate success out of that player i know there's some teams right now like the lions who are telling me no no it's not that easy but in general it is an easier thing to do and so you should expect to see a lot of interior office alive movement in free agency and then draft wise we've got a good number of bodies this year right center is weirdly undersized there's a lot of smaller zone dudes if you need a big center you're kind of in trouble but there's most like you know uh Francis Marinoa, who's out of Miami, might be a top five pick who gets moved to guard.

28:37Ben Solak:Emmanuel Pregnant out of Oregon. Vega Ione out of Penn State. We're expecting, I would say, about four top 50 guards to go in this class. And so it's a good year to need a guard. And, you know, every team needs offensive line improvement.

28:47Rich Eisen:And what about skilled position for all due respect to offensive line?

28:52Ben Solak:You see, when you say offensive position, my head goes to the guys in the trenches, right? That's what we got. No, no, I got you. I got you.

28:58Rich Eisen:Because, you know, Ben, this is a fantasy football world we live in. Right. You know, come on.

29:01Ben Solak:Yeah, running backs. This year for running back free agent class is great, right? You're looking at Brees Hall at the top. You guys were talking about Kenneth Walker coming out of Seattle before the break. Travis Etienne as well. And then there's like a great mystery box tier. There's the Rico Dowdle coming into free agency again. He had 1 ,000 yards with the Cowboys. Didn't get the big deal. Had to take the one year with the Panthers. And then had 1 ,000 yards that season too. And so you have Rico back in here. Tyler Algier is in this market. He was a 1 ,000-yard rusher for the Falcons before they signed a draft to be John Robinson.

29:29Ben Solak:Algier's a guy I'm really excited to see where he goes. was Kenneth Gainwell, who obviously showed you, hey, if you have a quarterback who just wants to throw it to the back, I could be a 90-catch player over the course of a full season if you want. It's a really, really cool rotational group of backs this year. And the class for running back is really rough after Jeremiah Lovett. It's not a good year in the draft for running backs. Why do you say that?

29:48Rich Eisen:Why do you say that?

29:50Ben Solak:Not a lot of rotational players, but when we talk about rotational players coming out of the draft, those guys usually take some time to get on the field because they have to learn NFL protections. It's a lot harder to get a rookie out there as your third down back as opposed to just getting Kenneth Gainwell and plugging and chugging. So weak year for running back after Love. The second best back in this class is probably Love's backup at Notre Dame. Jadarian Price is most likely going to be RB2 off the board. So this is going to be a year where I think you see Walker, Brees Hall definitely, and then Travis Etienne as well get more money than you're thinking right now in the open market because nobody wants to draft any of these guys after Jeremiah Love.

30:21Rich Eisen:Ben Solak here on the Rich Eisen Show. And I guess maybe that's why Dallas is like, yeah, let's sign Javante Williams, right? Like, interesting. So maybe, what, Kenneth Walker stays in Seattle, right? I don't know, but that's a pretty deep, you named some really good professional running backs that are going to be hitting free agency unless they get franchise tagged.

30:47Ben Solak:Yeah. Before the playoffs, I would have told you Kenneth is staying in Seattle 70%, yes, 30 % now. Right. After that postseason, I mean, the young man made himself$3 million a year easily, right? I mean, he was highly explosive. Three short games of 100 yards from scrimmage. He showed more as a receiver. Obviously, he wins the Super Bowl MVP. To me, if I'm Kenneth Walker's agent, anything below the Josh Jacobs deal, which was four years, 48 million, 12 million per year, I'm laughing at. Right. Not after we just won a championship. All right. I would like to see my guy get paid. And Seattle's got free agents.

31:18Ben Solak:Right. They have Prasheed Shahida, the potential they need to sign. Kobe Bryant starting safety is up this year. Rick Wollin corners up for them this year. And so they might not want to be with Walker that price tag, especially because there are the Tyler Algiers and Kenneth Gainwell is available and Rico Dowdle in this class. And so I would say now Walker percent chance stays in Seattle. I put it like 45 percent. I think that it is closest to a coin flip. But if you made me guess water gun to my head, I think he gets out of Seattle.

31:42Rich Eisen:OK, and then the concept of the wide receiver market. How does it look? Ben?

31:47Ben Solak:Yeah, wide receivers tricky because there's always guys because we play three of them on every single snap. and we had wide receiver four or still does stuff for us like there's always bodies on bodies on bodies so you kind of have to measure it just against past years of wide receiver you can't measure it against like center where there's only ever one or two dudes available this year i would not say as a strong wide receiver class for agent there's some good rotational players joan jennings is a great blocker wandel robinson in the slot rashid shaheed the speed element those guys are there and then there's a couple of okay can you be like a real wide receiver one or two for me That's Alec Pierce out of Indianapolis who, you know, led the league yards per reception, yards per target, air yards per target this year.

32:26Ben Solak:Explosive downfield player. Can he run some more routes? Can he be a little bit more of a three level weapon for us? There's Mike Evans. We have no question that he can be that. But how long in the tooth is he? How healthy is he coming off a little bit of an injury riddled season? And then Romeo Dobbs, who's really quite the conundrum out of Green Bay. Everybody I talk to film, everybody likes Romeo Dobbs. Like there's no question it's good play. Why did he never fully control wide receiver one? Why did he never start demanding targets in it and consolidating there? He had the exact same target per route share over all four years in Green Bay, like 22%, just like solid Eddie steady wide receiver to Jacoby Myers play.

32:59Ben Solak:So nobody really knows exactly how high that ceiling is. And so a few guys who might be, you know, able to have big impacts on their next team. I think Pierce is going to make somewhere around 24 million per year, the Nico Collins deal, but you're still squinted. You're still trying to see the forest through the trees a little bit with Pierce. It's not a knockout year for wide receiver for agency.

33:17Rich Eisen:Well, how do you handicap the quarterback carousel over the next six weeks, combine and draft? Because, again, if combine, you know, we'll talk. We had Lewis Riddick on our one. He's talking about Ty Simpson, Nussmeyer, Beck. Right after that, you're really beginning to get further down, one would think, a draft list. And then free agency. Stafford's not in this mix. rogers if he's in it he's only going to one team how do you see it ben yeah it's lewis's job to

33:51Ben Solak:hype up the nuss myers in the backs of the world it's my job to be like listen we're trading for spencer rattler before we're drafting one of these guys you know like it's there's there's certainly you know there's mystery box potential there there's dart throw in the dark potential there with some of those guys but i think you're going to see a really active year trading for quarterback twos and the bottom of some of these rosters if you think about the colts if they give daniel Jones a multi-year deal I'm calling about Anthony Richardson and I'm seeing if I can you know put him next to Jacoby Brissett in a camp battle and see if they can win that out Spencer Rattler who I thought really improved year one to year two but then lost the job to Tyler Shuck he's who the new coaching staff had invested in but the film is pretty good on Spencer Rattler Tanner McKee who's there with the Eagles Will Levis with the Tennessee Titans he lost the job to Cam Ward you're going to see these guys get investigated as trade options because the quarterback class is just so perilously thin behind Fernando Mendoza.

34:40Ben Solak:And so the teams that miss out on Kyler and Tua, which I think, you know, about six, seven teams that have a need, there's Kyler Tua and then there's the Malik Willis free agent carousel. After that, you're going to have three or four teams left wanting. And to me, those teams are going to take the big home run swing. Nobody thinks it's going to connect. It's not sexy. It's not exciting. But if you can get a rookie contract starter out of Spencer Rattler, it kind of saves your job for a couple of years. So to me, what I'm what I'm looking for when I head to Indianapolis and like, you know, the scuttlebutt on some of these young quarterback twos who aren't going to break into quarterback one in their own team but can i go trade a middle round pick for them instead of you know spending it on a carson beck tell me the

35:13Rich Eisen:teams that are going to do that and you know i mean because this is a that's a gamble man i understand you're like you know hey um camp battle between jacoby brissette and anthony richardson or camp battle between veteran and tanner mckee or whatever i mean it it could make sense on paper and it could make sense in a room where you're stacking players on a board or on a grease board, but then you've got to sell it to a fan base and you've got to play football with it with a head coach that needs to win games more likely than not. Give me the teams that would take a flyer on your methodology right there, Ben Solak.

35:54Ben Solak:So I think Miami has to take a lot of cap lumps this year in order to get off the two-a-deal. And we already know they're moving on from Tyreek Hale. They might be trading more players. so I think Miami's going to be a team that tries to be in the Malik Willis sweepstakes John Eric Sullivan he's from Green Bay yeah that's one thing that's one thing Malik Willis

36:10Rich Eisen:you had me at hello there uh honestly uh I think he's going to have his choices and I think he's going to have teams that are like we want you and he'll be like yeah the roster's not there I don't know about the coach like I think he's going to have choices um this time around 100 % I'm like which team is going to say I will instead of drafting a kid I'd rather take a flyer and see if he's my next one or a bridge quarterback even. Like, who's going to do that?

36:37Ben Solak:So I think the Jets, we know that Aaron Glenn likes mobile quarterbacks. They have Justin Fields there on, like, their veteran deal. I think you can sign Malik Willis for roughly the same deal, probably a little bit more. The Jets, the Browns, to me, are a team where Todd Monken just worked with Lamar Jackson. That's a very copy-and-paste offense in terms of stylistically how Willis plays and how Lamar plays. Arizona is the other team. Monty Austin, forward general manager there, was in Tennessee when Malik Willis was drafted by the Titans. So I think those three teams are going to be aggressively in on Willis along with the Dolphins.

37:05Ben Solak:Like I said, that Packers familiarity. And I just don't think the Dolphins have the cap to last in a bidding war if that's where this gets for Willis. And like, I don't think Willis is going to get insanely overpaid, but it is not a year to walk into the draft with a quarterback need. I can't stress that enough. And so I think Willis, you know, if I had to go between, there's that Justin Fields deal at$20 million per year, and then the next highest deal is Baker at$30 million. excuse me there's like a 10 million dollar gap between those two deals he's gonna land somewhere in there and i wouldn't be surprised if he's closer to the baker deal and so those are the teams to me that go in on willis and then if you can't get that done and you're sitting there you don't have draft capital to move on from because you're a rebuilding team then you have to be looking at these younger quarterback twos as your bridges into 2027 and a much better quarterback

37:47Rich Eisen:class and thanks for the time man really appreciate it and thanks for the great read and great information you helped me get set for the next few weeks thank you thanks you take care you bet That's Ben Solak. Everybody check out his article on ESPN, the app, and ESPN.com if you are more of an online internet type. I got some thoughts on all of this stuff. Let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll hit it. 844-204-RICH. Also, the number is down. We'll sneak in a call before we head on out to Indianapolis. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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40:41Rich Eisen:And Ben Solak. Our colleague. Our colleague. I will push back a little bit here. I don't think anybody's number twos are available. A quarterback, you mean? Why would they be? Why would they be? Yeah, it seems like every year we see 60 starting quarterbacks in a season. There's no reason. The only reason why Richardson might be available is he's getting a little bit more expensive in his rookie contract. What, Tanner McKee's so expensive and that he's not going to play behind Jalen Hurts? That you need to go get him? honestly Matt Jones in my estimation is the most likely candidate to be the next Sam Darnold of anybody else interesting of anybody else again chosen in the middle of the first round had a nice first year doing the gritty at the Pro Bowl right second year falls off then whatever the heck happened with him in Belichick, he needed to go to Camp Peterson down in Jacksonville.

41:45Rich Eisen:And now he's in Camp Shanahan. And you saw what he looked like when he got the shot for a month. He took the shot. He got the shot. Right? He's actually in the Shanahan system that everybody credits for Sam Darnold's reset. and Brock Purdy was not available for some time this year and Matt Jones kept the Niners so afloat, they almost won the one seed. And by the way, if the Niners had won that one seed game against the Seattle Seahawks in the final Saturday of the regular season, the Rams would have been third in their division. I mean, that's how crazy that game was a sliding door for the entirety of what followed.

42:37Rich Eisen:so why would the Niners make him available? Unless you blow them away with the godfather offer. I don't think anybody's twos are going to be available because there but for the grace of the football gods go you. That you're now down to a new number two that's not as good as the two that you had. Look at the Minnesota Vikings this year. They were stuck with the number three quarterback because their number two got hurt, and the number one couldn't stay healthy. Why would you take that safety net out? You're going to, so even if the Colts give Daniel Jones a long-term deal, coming off an Achilles, you're going to trade away Anthony Richardson because why?

43:18Rich Eisen:He's too expensive to keep as your backup? Hell no. I shouldn't. Spencer Rattler? Yes, he's not going to play very much because Tyler Shuck's the guy there now. But why would they trade him? Why would they trade him? Yeah, but for the grace of one snap against, you know, anybody, they're going to need Spencer Rattler to keep things afloat. You can't just trade your twos anymore. I don't think anybody's going to do it. You have to overpay for them. Especially not after that conversation. Well, you're going to have to. Paul in Syracuse, New York. What's up, Paul? Syracuse.

43:50Ben Solak:Rich Eisen, baby. What's up, guys? What's up? Hey. You know, Brockman said this last year, that the juiciest, best content you put out, Mr. Rich Eisen, is the rumors that you get from the combine. And now that it's picking up a lot of steam, are you worried about people trying to bribe you, get the rumors onto the show, and make it there on the old YouTube and the Rich Eisen show and ESPN and all that? So I'm curious the process.

44:19Rich Eisen:How do you vet these out? How do you crack the top five now that it's picking up a lot of steam? Well, Paul, if you're calling me an influencer, you're right. Oh, yeah. I don't think that's what he was saying. That's what he wasn't? He didn't say that. What's Paul pointing out? Maybe he meant that. Paul, if somebody say, if I hear it twice, I need to hear it from two different people. Two sources? Yeah. Got a sec. Mike, what do you mean two sources? What are you so surprised about over there? Mr. Seton Hall? What are you so surprised about? Honestly. I've got to hear it from two different people.

44:49Rich Eisen:Three, four? Two people have got to say something to me at the very least for me to at least do that. Think about it. Think about it. And Paul, I just suss it out. If somebody's coming up and saying, let me feed Rich some information so he could say it in a segment, then, you know, I got a BS meter. You know what I mean?

45:06Ben Solak:Is there an extra level? Because I know we get like a top five on the show. Is there like a Rich Eisen Patreon for the ones that just missed out on the list? You know?

45:14Rich Eisen:No, I don't think so.

45:15Ben Solak:Top 10? Top 15?

45:16Rich Eisen:Now we're talking. I don't know, Paul. No, I appreciate it. By the way, I appreciate the process questions right here. Well done, Paul. Thanks so much. See you, buddy. That's Paul in Syracuse. how to let him go before he asked me about an OnlyFans page. Oh, God, Rich. I think we'd clean up, honestly. Oh, no, we would not. OnlyFan. Let's go to, where are we going here? We want to go to Andrew in Newcastle, Pennsylvania? Newcastle. What's up, Andrew?

45:43Ben Solak:Rich, what is going on?

45:45Rich Eisen:It's on your mind.

45:46Ben Solak:Before I start, I just got to say that the show, the daily grind of the Rich Eisen show is no joke. You guys are all awesome. Thank you. I love the energy and the sports takes you guys give. So I just got to ask, what do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers need to do about their franchise quarterback, and do you think he's on the roster right now?

46:07Rich Eisen:I don't know. Will Howard is the only guy that, with all due respect to Mason Rudolph, who one of Cooper's friends hot-takes saying he's the next Sam Darnold. I don't know. Let's see what Will Howard looks like. He certainly showed he's got some gumption.

46:21Ben Solak:you know or do we take a quarterback in the hometown the draft is in Pittsburgh this year it's going to be a big year do we take him this year I don't think so buddy I don't know I don't

46:34Rich Eisen:know unless Ty Simpson starts showing out and starting next week and thanks for the call Andrew Newcastle Pennsylvania in the same way that we sensed that Anthony from Miami was not from Miami I'm getting the sense that our last caller literally was from Newcastle Pennsylvania you? Yep. Sounded like you just came from the set of tasks.

46:52Ben Solak:So good.

46:56Rich Eisen:Or the pit.

47:00Rich Eisen:Yeah, I don't know. I think the Steelers go and get Aaron Rodgers and let's see what he can do. Let's see if they can win and make some real hay in Mike McCarthy's first year and they can assess what Will Howard is to them, but are they going to use a first? If Rodgers comes back, you're not using your first round pick on somebody that's not helping. You're not Rodgers. Hey, Rodgers comes back. What are you going to trade up for him? You're going to trade up for him? That ain't happening, guys. It's been done before. Yeah. I mean, we don't think they want any piece of that. Worked out for the team that did it.

47:35Rich Eisen:I know that. I don't think that's happening again. You're going to get somebody that can actually help right here, right now, and you'll worry about the quarterback another day. For our radio, we'll chat next in Indianapolis. We'll finish this show up on ESPN, do it in Disney Plus in a sec. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to three Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

48:10Ben Solak:Shot clocks, big shots, upsets, aces, TGL playoffs are here. First, Atlanta Drive starts their repeat run against Los Angeles Golf Club. Then Rory's Boston Common Golf and Tiger's Jupiter Lynx face off in their playoff debuts. Who will advance? Keep up. It's playoffs. Tune in Tuesday, March 17th at 6.30 p.m. and 9 p.m. only on ESPN and the ESPN app.