Hour 3: NFL Week 8’s Top 5 Games, plus 2-Time Oscar Nominee Michael Shannon In-Studio

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1:25Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud. But it's shocking. It's shocking. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Brian Wynhorst is here. The NBA isn't concerned today with whether people who were playing in the legal poker games got defrauded. Earlier on the show. NFL Network insider Tom Pellicero. Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo. Coming up. Actor Michael Shannon. And now it's Rich Eisen. all right hour number three the rich eisen show is on the air here on disney plus the espn app everywhere and also uh espn radio presented by progressive insurance 844-204-rich is the number to dial here on the program just had a very nice chat with michael shannon first one i've had in 10 years with him because he was here in 2015 i forget what he was promoting here the last time he was here uh but he's got um uh some terrific films to talk about um including nuremberg which is available in theaters nationwide on friday november 7th he plays the chief prosecutor of herman goering in that film played by russell crowe um he's in death by lightning which is available for streaming on netflix november 6th he plays the role of james garfield who was assassinated so you know comedies um and so um michael shannon's gonna come out here but we've got a great celebrity true or false to talk about with him and i just i am such a fan of his um going way back in the day and we are going to go way back in the day eight mile he was in um and also i mean boardwalk empire talk about some dark characters in that show bobby conavali's been on the show multiple times he won a i think he won an emmy for gypro city didn't he yeah he But at any rate, Michael Shannon's going to join us here in about 18 minutes time.

3:15Rich Eisen:He always plays characters you're slightly afraid of. Maybe not even slightly, like maybe fully afraid of. There's something ticking underneath the hood, you know what I mean? And so Michael Shannon, a big fan of his. We've got a great celebrity, True or False, for him. Knives Out, another great film that he's been in. He's going to be joining us here shortly. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Let's go to Jimmy in San Antonio. What's up, Jimmy? How are you? I'm not bad. How are you? Oh, dude. Web and Yama's killing it. So there's that. Congratulations there. My goodness. We have 81 more games to talk about.

3:49You're fine.

3:50Rich Eisen:Freak. I mean, it's... Okay. Yeah. Exactly. We have a whole season to talk about him and the Spurs that are going to make the playoffs, calling that, which is not a hot take. I don't think so either. I'm wondering. But again, listen, Warriors looked good again last night with Steph Curry doing Steph things like shooting a three from the logo to tie the game. And then they win it in overtime despite Aaron Gordon scoring 50. And, you know, obviously SGA and Oklahoma City is just another one to just talk about. But I think the Spurs are in the mix, man. No, no. I mean, Timberwolves, all that sort of business.

4:30The West is going to be very difficult this year. If anyone thinks OKC is going to walk through to the finals, no way. The West is way more hard than the East.

4:40Rich Eisen:I agree. That's not a hot text. That's usually how it goes. That's how it goes. Yeah, right. What else you got on your mind, Jimmy? I called in to talk about dining alone.

4:50What do you got, Jimmy? I'm a bit of Ferris Bueller. I have a system that sends to work, and y 'all are going to be like, damn, Jimmy, you're a scum. But when I go eat alone at a nice restaurant, I make sure I don't eat at the bar.

5:05Rich Eisen:Because nobody's going to buy your meal if you're eating at the bar. You get a table for two. You order a shot of your favorite whiskey. And you put it in the chair across from you. And then you order. And then the dating couples or family will think that you are having a drink with someone who's not with you. And they'll end up buying your meal. Jimmy and Simon, that's devious. Next level. Brilliant. But it works. Wow. I find that a hard time believing that word. Oh, my word. Jimmy in San Antonio. How about that? That's like taking Joe Flacco's statement and just kicking it up a notch. I mean, respectfully, Jimmy, I don't think that's true.

5:46Rich Eisen:Oh, really? Wow. Has it worked for you, Jimmy? Oh, yes. Yeah, I've used that many times. Well, you need to go to San Antonio more often. wine or a shot of whiskey and it'll tug on somebody's tears that you're sitting alone and then you get a free meal. Jimmy in San Antonio, all right. You don't feel the least bit guilty for doing this? Not at all. Clearly not. Why were you applauding for that sort of thing? I don't know. Jimmy, take care. I appreciate the applause because Ferris Bueller did it. You thought it was cool. Well, you'll appreciate this. Susie chimed in, you know, your favorite much more than you like me.

6:19Rich Eisen:She chimed in. I love Joe Flacco. that's how I feel sitting in my car. I don't know about anyone else in the world. Oh, does she have her hands at 10 and 2? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. She might have her knee at 9. I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no. What she does, though, is when she comes home, she sits in the car for minutes on end. What do they do? What is that? She makes a call, listens to music. It's like her meditation. It's like her own personal moment. Decompresses? Before she goes in and joins like the Star Wars cantina that's going on in the household where she's pulled in 15 different directions because mom is home.

7:00And so you let me go. Shout out to Amy Trask.

7:04Rich Eisen:Yes. I agree. Very, very happy. That is the smartest woman in professional sports. The goat, her medulla oblongata is real and spectacular. She is genius. Agreed. I got a question for Jimmy real quick. I'm really surprised. We had the wolf on Monday, Jimmy. We all expected a phone call from you. What happened? Well, I didn't want to impose. I wanted you to have your time. That's right, Jimmy. Good answer, Jimmy. Good answer, Jimmy. Yes. Hey, don't get within 200 yards of TJ. TJ, didn't you? All right. Thank you, Jimmy. Not yet, but I'm going to. Thank you, Jimmy and San Antonio. Greatly appreciate it.

7:47Rich Eisen:It's a very ungentlemanly conversation you both have. How? Yeah, again, does Sarah do that when she comes home, sit in the driveway? I've seen her. If she's still on a call, she'll be in the driveway. So I'm wondering if there are any other women out there who do the same thing Susie does. I've heard it's common. I would think women and men do that. No, she just sits there in the car and the dogs know she's there and they go nuts. Nuts. they hear her car they know it's her they know she's sitting there and they go ape go ham until she walks in the door 844-204-RICH is the number to dial we'll always take your phone calls uh all right uh we're one game in till week eight i do this every friday it's time to do it again my top five matchups for the rest of week eight presented by hyundai high five one two three four 5.

8:49Rich's Top 5.

8:52Rich Eisen:All right, number 5 on this list of my other games that I'm looking forward to seeing for the rest of week number 8 that began just up the road on Thursday night with the Chargers dispatching the Vikings emphatically is the Monday night game on ESPN. And return to the Manning cast, by the way. So several weeks in a row now that all the double dips are gone. and listen the commanders falling to 3 and 5 would be significant this is the team that made the final 4 last year of championship weekend this is the team that had designs of taking that next step and all that's happened is just a bunch of injuries including one of their quarterback and it's Marcus Mariota going into Arrowhead on a Monday night against the Chiefs team that we're all expecting to just use them as a play thing maybe it'll be different i don't know but on a monday night i also want to see how the chiefs just going to continue looking like the best team in football as they have over the last couple weeks we shall see i'm looking forward to seeing all of that number four hey man say what you will but the giants play entertaining football with jackson dart is starting even the loss that they had in new orleans was just like wait a minute did they turn the ball over five consecutive series.

10:14Rich Eisen:The loss in Denver is something that's been an epic flame out. Obviously, they're not the Giants aren't there for your football rubbernecking. Write that one down. But Tango and Cash out there in cleats is just a lot of fun to watch. Can the Giants sweep the Eagles for the first time since 2007? And if they do it, snapping a 12 game losing streak in Philadelphia. what would that do to the philadelphia eagles and their fan base i think it would seriously mess with their heads as they go to a bye coming out of it at green bay and home for detroit and at dallas and then the day after thanksgiving against chicago and then at the chargers that's five straight weeks coming off a bye for the eagles they need this win how does that sound at 5-2.

11:08Rich Eisen:And the Giants, can they bounce back after the toughest loss anybody's ever seen? Again, nobody's ever had as large a lead as the Giants had as late as they had it and lost a game in the history of the NFL. How do they bounce back? I can't wait to watch this one. Early window Fox. Giants going for their first sweep of the Eagles since 2007. By the way, they won the Super Bowl that year. Number three on the list. All right, I'm going to put my top five where my mouth is. I keep saying the Ravens can go on a run. It starts now. It starts now, and it starts against the Bears team that's won four in a row and feeling great about themselves and coming into the bank.

11:49Rich Eisen:Ravens coming off a bye. Let's get Lamar back. We saw him running into practice down the hill like he was dabble running to Clemson. Yeah, Albert said he was a full participant today. Here we go. Here we go. He's back. Let's see it. They're coming off the bye. let's see the Ravens come off the buy and say we are flushing the first six weeks of the season and we are the Ravens and we are going to take care of business and start putting pressure on everybody else when we get back to 500 and beyond one week at a time or the Bears are just like we are who we think we are which is 4-2 about to be 5-2, Caleb's feeling great and Caleb's going to go into the mid-Atlantic it's his hometown we just was there on a Monday night and beat the Commanders.

12:35Rich Eisen:And he's going to go into the Mid-Atlantic, and guess what he's going to do? He's going to beat Lamar. And he's going to win five in a row. A little higher register. I know. But either way, I'm properly registering. I'm looking forward to this number three. Number two. The Varsities in Denver. I said this yesterday. Hey, TJ, I meant it when I said it. The Cowboys are set up. They're set up to win this division. Sir, Dak is playing in an MVP level. CeeDee Lamb says it's the best offense they've played in. You're tight end. That's all he does is catch touchdowns like he's Chris Carter. Okay? George Pickens has shown up in the way that you were hoping he would.

13:21Rich Eisen:Yes, indeed. Javante Williams has shown up in a way you didn't see coming. Comeback player of the year. Get familiar. You can't come back from Sean Payton's bench and win that award. I'm still voting for him. I'm saying, guys, the Cowboys 3-3-1 are 100 % set up. If they win this game, they're 4-3-1 while the Eagles take on the Giants. I'm not expecting that to be the upset. But after that, Dallas, as we all know, they're taking on, as I mentioned yesterday, taking on Arizona on a Monday night football at home, then a bye, then they're at Vegas on a Monday night. While the Eagles are on a bye at Green Bay and home for Detroit.

14:01Rich Eisen:and then they face each other in week 12. Dallas could be set up if they win this game and win the others that they expect and get the Eagles to lose one or two to welcome them into the house, even the series up on the season and truly make some hay in the division. But they got to win this one. And then how will Denver finish this thing up after last week and the week before? I mean, what a week. They go into Philadelphia. They look dead in the water, score 18 in the fourth. Then they look dead in the water in London and still win. Then they come home and they're dead in the water to the middle of the fourth quarter and still win.

14:35Rich Eisen:What will it look like? Can't wait. Knicks versus Dak. Three letters for both. Number one on the list, as we all know, is don't call it a revenge game. It's just Aaron Rodgers taking on the Green Bay Packers. And it's not just him taking on the Green Bay Packers. It's him taking on the guy who succeeded him. And as a matter of fact, you want to talk about revenge games? I've got a few of them here. Although, was Peyton Manning against Andrew Luck a revenge game? I don't think he was terribly happy to leave Indianapolis, but he did wind up in a spot where he won another Super Bowl. True. And you got Drew Brees versus Phillip Rivers.

15:14Rich Eisen:Remember that one? When they met in 2008 for the first time, Brees finished 3-0 in head-to-head meetings against Rivers. Bledsoe versus Brady. Oh. Brady was 5-1 in head-to-head meetings against Bledsoe. The first time he faced him, the Patriots won 38-7 over the Bills in 2002. And now here comes Rodgers against Jordan Love. And here's the crazy thing about it. Is the symmetry of Rodgers' career to Favre's is unbelievable. The endgame, where he goes to the Jets coming off of Green Bay, then he's got to go to another spot to have a chance to win a championship. he just didn't go back in division he went to pittsburgh but now he's basically back in division because the pittsburgh steelers play the entire nfc north this year which is crazy and he's taking on love in the same way farve took on rogers they played four times because rogers uh because farve went back in division they split their four meetings two and two so this is going to be the only shot one would think he's going to get at jordan love unless they face each other in super bowl then whatever hype that's happening this week will only be just on absolute overdrive if that happens but i can't wait to see it you know it'll be a lot of fun watching this game play out as tj watt is sent like a heat seeking missile in the uh way of love and then rogers is gonna have to just keep his head on a swivel for a certain individual that's going for dallas that can't wait that's my top five one more i did not know this i was thinking of going bills panthers because the panthers are four and three and the bills are coming off a bye and they would be four and three if they lose this game three in a row and then it would be red alert in western new york but instead i'm just going to go niners at texans as we all know domico ryan's used to be on the niners staff uh robert sala who was the defensive coordinator there until he went and took the Jets job so D 'Amico Ryans took his job and then wound up getting the Texans job and now it's the Niners with Salah as the defensive coordinator coming in with Mack Jones taking on the Houston Texans at five and two and the Texans need this ball game everybody because the object in the rearview mirror of the Indianapolis Colts is as far away as you think it is.

17:52Rich Eisen:Colts are 6-1, Texans 2-4. Texans lose this one. They're 2-5 as the Colts are taking on the Titans at home. See you later. Kind of a wrap, yeah. See you later. This has been the Texans division for the last few years. See ya. Wouldn't want to be ya. Texans are favored in this game. Okay. I don't... Certainly, if Nico Collins is out, I mean, who's catching it? Yeah. Who's running it? Who's catching it? He was blocking it. The offense has just not been good enough. Hasn't been good. Better good enough. Yeah. So that's my top five matchups for week number eight. Presented by Hyundai, everybody. We will take a break.

18:34Rich Eisen:When we come back, one of the best actors around is stopping by here to talk about his new films on the Nuremberg Trials and the assassination of James Garfield. But we will also have some fun with Celebrity True or False with Michael Shannon. when we come back.

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20:30Rich Eisen:We just saw a clip of Nuremberg, which is available in theaters nationwide on Friday, November 7th. And then And the day before, Death by Lightning, a limited four-episode series that brings to life the stranger than fiction, true story of the assassin of James Garfield. And our next guest plays James Garfield, and that Michael Shannon is here. So some serious subject matters, sir. Yeah, but I feel very fortunate to get to tell both of these stories because I admire both of these men a great deal, Robert Jackson and James Garfield and I think the thing I admired the most about both of them is how dedicated they were to to public service and how much they believed that it was their responsibility not just to hold a position of power but to use the position they were in to help other people yeah the accountability obviously that you're referring to is in for Herman Goering and how your character chief prosecutor robert jackson um got uh got him if you will got at nuremberg and then you're playing james garfield how do you how do you research playing him just just deep deep into the source material deep into yeah there's a beautiful uh biography uh on garfield that it is available to any anybody who cares to read it uh um but there's a lot of scholarship and writing about Garfield.

22:02Obviously, he's very mysterious to most people because he wasn't president all that long.

22:07Rich Eisen:Over just 200 days or something like that, right? And he didn't want to be president to begin with. Yeah, he was, you know, you're getting all secondhand information. I never got to sit down and talk to the guy himself. He was unavailable. Yeah, yeah. But it seemed there was this balance between definitely he wasn't unambitious. Right. But he also wasn't an egomaniac, you know, and he did seem to be most interested in, for example, the Department of Education was Garfield's idea. and when he was it was something that he initiated when he initiated at the time it was simply the board of education it hadn't turned it didn't get to turn into a full-fledged department until some years later but it was his idea that the only way to have a free and equal society is that if everybody receives an education which was such a beautiful thing and he he had nothing to gain by instituting that for himself he just wanted to do it for other people and it's it's kind of heartbreaking to see that eroding his this notion that he had uh because i i think he's right and it's uh again available for streaming on netflix starting november 6th a limited four episode series and then nuremberg what a cast man i mean rami malek and um also russell crow richard e grant john slattery colin hanks who's been on the show a couple guys that we just mentioned have been on the program and uh russell crowe who's a you know a massive football fan as well um and so based on the book the nazi and the psychiatrist and i imagine that's something that you would you would take in before you take on this character in this film yeah i mean it's interesting uh the the story the main storyline nazi and psychiatrist is is doesn't really have anything to do with robert jackson at all right uh but when jamie vanderbilt who wrote and directed the film was writing a screenplay, he thought, well, maybe I can have my cake and eat it too.

24:15So he's kind of telling the story from that book and also the Robert Jackson story, trying to squeeze it into one container.

24:24Rich Eisen:Yeah, the psychiatrist played by Rami Malek, who's in charge of trying to attest to the mental state of Russell Crowe's Herman Goering. And again, that's a film that's available, again, nationwide, Friday, November 7th. Tell me about Eric LaRue. You directed this film as well, correct? Thanks for asking. Come on, man. We've got your back here, Michael. Come on now. You drive to El Segundo. I'll mention every single project you've got. I'd drive here anytime. Yeah, it's my directorial debut. It came out briefly in the theaters, as unfortunately tends to be the case nowadays, unless it's a comic book movie or something.

25:02You get a very short stay in the theaters. But it is available, I believe, on Apple and Amazon. You can rent it. Yeah, it's a film I made about the parents of a boy who commits a school shooting. And it's kind of, it's after all the initial hysteria is worn off. Their son is in prison. And you just see these parents trying to figure out how to go on with their lives, having had this happen. He's their only son. so they um they're just trying to figure out how to pick up the pieces um and uh yeah it's it's uh got an amazing cast judy greer plays the mom and she's just divine and alexander skarsgard plays the dad and uh yeah they both just knocked it out of the park i think available on digital right now

26:02Rich Eisen:as you mentioned and uh as we are um here on the rich eyes and show michael shannon is here I've got a celebrity true or false for you that we play with folks with a filmography and a television list of your history Just like you. This is we're gonna ride up your alley Let's go a celebrity true or false with Michael Shannon We also have some really slick production value to kick it off hit it, please Hey Oh boy Celebrity true or false? You can't handle the truth That's all we got. We're low budget That's all we have Wow Do you ever work with Jack Nicholson? No, but it's funny. On a flight out to L.A., they had The Shining on the movie selection.

26:41Did you use it?

26:42Rich Eisen:Did you hit it? I watched The Shining. I hadn't seen it in a while. God, he's amazing in that movie. You know what all work and no play makes. That's the scene that really sticks out to me is when she's reading that and he comes in. Oh, my God. And she's got the best. She's trying to keep him in a way. That's one of the best scenes I've ever seen in my life. Well, I mean, that she realizes all the writing that he's done at the typewriter. this entire time in the snow. It's the same sentence. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I imagine you would want to, you would want to work with somebody like Kubrick or you heard how meticulous he was as a...