Hour 3: ‘Overreaction Monday,’ plus ‘Michael’ Director Antoine Fuqua In-Studio

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1:31Rich Eisen:ESPN College Basketball Analyst Andrea Carter. Illinois Head Coach Brad Underwood. Coming up, Director Antoine Fuqua. And now, it's Rich Eisen. On the air, here on Disney +, the ESPN app, ESPN Radio, Sirius XM Channel 80. Antoine Fuqua is in our green room. So excited to have him back here on this program. I believe he was here previously for one of the Equalizer films that he was doing with Denzel. Does he know Denzel? So he's going to be joining us in advance of his new film, Michael, which is about Michael Jackson, his rise to prominence all the way through to his life and career in 1988. and Jafar Jackson, the kid, or the new, I shouldn't say kid, the actor who plays Michael is a revelation.

2:31Rich Eisen:My goodness. And you could see commercials for that film everywhere. It's in theaters near you later on this coming next month in April. And I believe this is Antoine's first interview on shows like this for the film. So we're honored that he will be here shortly. out here for you to hopefully enjoy the conversation. That's up to me, I guess, is to ask him the right questions. We've been talking nonstop about the UConn-Duke game. I gave my two cents on it. Jay Billis joined in hour number one. Brad Underwood, the head coach of Illinois, joined us in hour two. I asked him, you know, you're scouting.

3:11Rich Eisen:You're wondering who your next opponent is going to be. It's either UConn or Duke. How did you take in that game? He said he didn't see the end of it. That he was Zooming doing Zoom interviews. That's crazy. so if you missed any of that conversation youtube.com slash rich eyes and show is our youtube channel and also there's our podcast version of the show there's our disney plus page as soon as this show's over you can watch all three hours whenever you want and we discussed earlier about how it happened how it all went down one thing we haven't discussed that I kind of want to hit before we get to overreaction Monday, on a Monday, is all of the calls.

3:54Rich Eisen:You see the calls coming in, the UConn call, the Duke call, the CBS call. You see the reaction of Raftery and Grand Hill sort of knocked off their equilibrium sitting down. Yeah, big time. The Duke basketball call, I believe the announcer for Duke, was talking about how one of the players for UConn was on the court. That should be a technical, which was a nice try. Funny. But some of the video that you see of this moment in the aftermath, there was a technical foul that could have been called on UConn. Yeah. And I don't know, Dan Hurley went up to an official who was making his way to the scorer's table, I believe, to check on the time.

4:41Rich Eisen:is you know they added a tenth of a second onto it i don't know what it was if it was playful it looked like it was playful um but he made contact with an official did you see this no where he goes up the officials walking over and hurley stands in front of him and basically puts his forehead onto the forehead of the of the referee and just like moves his head around playfully you know and walked away what a beautiful psycho and you know if the official didn't take it playfully or what have you they could have easily teed up dan hurley and today's conversation would be about his inability to comport himself as opposed to everything else that we are rightfully talking about, which is his incredible ability to recruit and coach up and dial things up and let things play out and have his guys situationally brilliant, all of that stuff.

5:45Rich Eisen:And being, by the way, I couldn't believe this. He's 125 and 27. That's his record since becoming coach of UConn. But do you see this moment that I'm talking about right now? Yeah, this is kind of weird. He's not, like, smiling. He's not really grinning. I think it's cheeky. That's the way I look at it. And he might know the official for a long time, and, you know, and they go way back, and so this official knows that he's just having fun with an incredible moment that just happened. But he does make contact. Yeah, and he almost, like, cuts off the ref while he's walking to the scorer's booth and kind of, like, gives him one of these and then kind of walks off.

6:21Rich Eisen:It's really bizarre. It is bizarre. It's similar to – remember, didn't he push one of his players to get into a spot on the middle of the game. Yeah. I think Sue sent all of us a reel from 60 Minutes talking about Hurley's interesting practice regimen that he has with his players. A little bit off the wall, but that's part of him. That's part of him, man. Could you imagine if they had teed him up for making contact? I could have. No, I could have. You can't. I mean, you say that, but, you know? I thought the funniest thing was when he was, he got ready to do his post-game interview. The first thing he says is, someone stole my pin.

7:09Rich Eisen:I collect all my pins. Like, he was so concerned. I guess he had a final four. I think it knocked a guy. Oh, yeah. And she was like, well, I think it was Tracy Wilson. Tracy Wilson was like, we'll get you another pin. Well, I know you're superstitious. Yeah. You know? But he was really good. He's an interesting cat, man. Yeah. But you know what he does? he cuts down nets. Google them. They're very successful, man. Google them. He cuts down nets. That's why I'm saying this whole business, and it's going to be a narrative, and it's going to build, and then it'll rebound in the other direction. It will.

7:43I don't know if you check on a Vegas line

7:46Rich Eisen:and that sort of thing, too. But this whole business of the Michigan-Arizona winner is the winner of this tournament. I've literally not seen that. Oh, please. It's the first thing I'm hearing. Well, maybe you're on a different Twitter than me, but I haven't seen anyone. I'm not on Twitter at all, as you know. Different thread than I am. So, yeah, I mean. Yeah, no, it's just like, hey, Michigan versus Arizona. The two wagons are playing each other, and whoever wins that one is just going to roll over whoever comes out of UConn, Illinois. Give me a break. Give me a break. Yeah, the odds are saying, you know, kind of the winner of that game wins.

8:21Rich Eisen:Exactly. I'm sure the odds are saying that, and you're going to be hearing that. You're going to see the topic bars and all that sort of, it's nonsense. Listen, you could sit here and say Illinois is a three seed that doesn't belong or couldn't expect them or they're unexpected, all that business. You know, I was hearing from friends of mine, hey, how lucky are we that we got Iowa State knocked out, Tennessee's a six seed. I'm like, hey, you know who was a six seed in the 1989 tournament? Michigan. Michigan just dispatched Tennessee with the biggest regional final win since Michigan whipped Virginia by 37 in 1989.

9:06Rich Eisen:Now, you don't see a lot of 30-point games in the regional. You don't. I understand that. I understand that. But I don't care about any more seeding or anything else. And certainly when you're talking about UConn and Dan Hurley and Caravan and the rest of these guys who are probably feeling quite invincible right now and no doubt Hurley will utilize the nobody believes in us. He'll play that card. He'll play that 52 times in one deck. Tell Mr. Indiana basketball, nice shot, kid. But here comes Michigan. Here comes Arizona. Get out of here with that. Come on now. I don't want to hear it. But I'll be hearing it for the next four days, five days.

9:57Rich Eisen:I just don't know how anyone can poo-poo UConn when they've been now the three of the last... Four Final Fours. Four Final Fours. And they've got a team that has a lot of seniors and juniors in the mix. So how are you all of a sudden... That's what I'm saying. That doesn't make sense to me. Get ready for it. How would you ever... You'll see it. Imagine if he'd taken the Lakers job. Uh-huh. UConn wouldn't be in three of the last... I don't know. Probably not. Let's do it. It's Overreaction Monday. Hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction Monday.

10:33Rich Eisen:On a Monday. We're actually doing it on the day itself. Right? How about that? Look at us. We're not observing. How's it going? You guys good? Great. I mean, you know. Sorry, TJ. I know you're doing good. It's all right. We're going to do some football and a little hodgepodge. That's the way these are going these days. Sure. Thinking about this, guys, Tom said this on Friday, and I don't know if you guys really picked up on it. Tommy P? Kirk Cousins is still out there. Yes. The Steelers should break up with Rodgers. Sign Kirk Cousins.

11:06Rich Eisen:Hmm. Breaking up is hard to do. That's what they say. It's not you, it's me. It's not you, it's me. You know what I mean? Someone's going to pull that with Rodgers. It's not you, it's me. I think they probably should. Why? What's the big deal? He's younger. His arm looked a little livelier last year. I don't know. Did it? Eh. The one thing, I didn't think that Rodgers' arm, I didn't think it was Rodgers' arm. There was nothing. Actually, Rodgers played very well last year. Yeah, you're right. One guy is seemingly, though, ready to go. No, I know. One guy you can get now and start moving. What's the other guy doing?

11:41Rich Eisen:Nobody's coming in yet. You can't. There's no rush. There's no rush. We could be throwing. We could be working out. We could be doing stuff. Would you rather, if you're McCarthy, have a guy who you've known for 20 years and knows your system as well as he does, who knows the team as well as he does because he was there last year, and knows the building and the organization, or you want to start from scratch. Aren't they kind of the same guy? No, they're not. And you know that too. Really? Yeah, you know that too. Come on. As you know, I'm doing my power rankings on Wednesday of the 10 best players of the NFL Network era.

12:20Rich Eisen:as the NFL Network's era being owned by the NFL is over Tuesday night. I'm thinking of putting Rodgers on that list. Hmm, interesting. Rodgers' entire career has been with the NFL Network's existence. TJ, we should come up with our own list and see if it matches Rich. Okay. This is an overreaction. All right. What else? You know, I don't really care what Andrew Barry says or what the Browns say. We are officially on Miles Garrett Trade Watch. Okay. Well, that's all. Oh, that's it? That's it? That's it. Yeah, that's it. I thought you were going somewhere else. No, no, no. This is it. He can hire, register, and he can, you know, say all this other crap.

12:59Rich Eisen:Brown for life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until he's not. You know what that all sounded like? I'm not going to be the Alabama head coach. And guess who was the Alabama head coach a week later? He's the Kalen DeBoer of general managing? Nick Saban. Oh, I see. Saban was the Dolphins coach. I'm not going to Alabama. And then he did. This guy's getting traded. Get ready. Well, he called him a career brown, which is, again, one way of saying that I'm not trading him, but also saying, well, I'm not lying. He's been with us his entire career. That's the truth. You know? That's why I said it sounded like he flipped his football card.

13:36Rich Eisen:Definition of is is. I don't think this is an overreaction either. We're on trade watch. I don't know if that means anything's going to happen. We're on trade watch. Well, we have to have some type of watch to make it even more interesting. Three ones, right? The maximum number of ones you could get for him? If not three ones, two in a second. You know what I mean? Like two for sure, obviously. Two for sure. Yeah, two is one thing's for certain. Who's a starter? Two things for sure. And a player, maybe, as well? Two ones, two in a player? I mean, three in a player? Yeah, I would want to get all of that.

14:08Rich Eisen:Man, you better trade him. Send him to the Dats. Forget a different conference. Like, different planet. Trade him to the UFL. Trade him to the UFL? You know? I wouldn't want to see him again. What, like, 12 guys? Yeah, sure. Like a whole roster? Yeah. The Jupiter Giants. You know what I mean? Trade him to the TGL. And free tickets to any rock movie ever. Future rock films. They should trade him to the WWE and have him ready for Mania. Yeah. WrestleMania. Whatever you could do to get him out of the – get league, get NFL compensation. This is great. But send him to a different league. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:44Rich Eisen:So who – What do we trade, like Seth, Braun Breaker? To get Miles Garrett, you're going to have to give up. They're going to want someone young. They're going to want Javon Evans because he's young. Okay. And then they're going to need, they're probably going to try to get Roman Reigns. You need someone to sell tickets. Yeah. And then maybe Cody Rhodes. Cody, Roman, and Javon Evans. This is all viable content. At a spot in the Street Fighter movie? Viable content. Kyle. I'm on watch. That's for sure. Would the Yankees give up Aaron Judge? No, I don't want to do that. That's great. What else, Chris?

15:15Rich Eisen:You know, I'm going to get the hype trick going for these guys. Okay. I think that Caleb's going to be up there for MVP. And the Bears are going to have the highest scoring offense in the league. The Bears. You got Kalief Raymond saying, I want to leave the Lions. I know, yeah, I know. Who has traditionally been one of the best offenses. I know, I'm seeing that too. And says, no, I want to go to the Bears to play with Ben Johnson. This is a great last Monday of March topic right now. That's going to set the league on fire this year. it's still Chicago what does that mean wow that was so dismissive no no no no where it could be 10 degrees there's no offense that's what I'm saying there's a reason why the Bears have been struggling to find like you know 1A wide receivers who can have 15-1600 yard seasons Chris it's not because the Bears put it all together those issues are gone my man That's part of the reason why if I'm the Bears and I could build something indoors, if I could build something indoors and keep it on the spot where it currently is in Chicago, sold.

16:24Rich Eisen:Sold. And then this is the perfect coach a million times over with the perfect quarterback a million times over. I'm not saying it's because it's Chicago. It doesn't happen. It hasn't happened in Chicago for a reason because it gets freaking cold there, man. You think Indiana will give them a dome? Indiana will give them whatever they want. You know? So I'll just call that an overreaction. For that alone, it's just, you know, can they get 60, 70 degree weather for most of their home games? Can we get that? Yeah, let's front load the home game. It does get biggerly cold and shy. That's what I'm saying, which means 30, 40 point games usually don't happen like that.

17:01Rich Eisen:What else, Chris? All right, a couple hoops ones and then we'll get out of there. Why would I ever slag on Chicago? It's one of my favorite cities in the United States. It truly is. I love Chicago. No, come on now. Oh, you know, I'm watching. Waddell and Sylvie will never have me back on. And the wiener circle would curse me out. Well, they do that anyway. I'm watching you and Adam's boys kind of blow it yesterday, right? And it got me thinking about last year. And it got me thinking about. There's no overreaction possible here for Duke right now. Like since Coach K left. Oh, this is great. John Shire should be on the hot seat.

17:33Rich Eisen:Like, what are we doing? All right, now that's stupid. This guy, I mean, come on. Did you see the list of all the guys? I know everybody's making that. I know everybody's talking about it. The last title. Why is it his fault? He's won three Big Ten champions. Here's why it's his fault. Last year, they had the most talented team. They have the one and two in rookie of the year in the NBA this year. I know that, yes. Don't even make the title game, lose in the Final Four. Yeah, they lost to Houston. Completely new roster. Yeah, yeah. Number one team, number one seed going into the tournament. They look great this year.

18:01Rich Eisen:Below a 19-point game. Didn't look good, really, in any of their tournament games. Right. One common denominator. Hot seat. The head coach. Get out of here. Seat's hot. You should stay there because I'm sick and tired of everybody firing. Duke should call Jay Wright. He's not going anywhere. Please give me a break. You don't think North Carolina has already attempted to do that? I just don't. Two things. He doesn't deserve this. That's number one. Number two, I don't need another school trying to poach Dusty May. Okay? I don't need it. Better gig? Better gig, my ass. Yeah, I said that. Give me a break.

18:38Rich Eisen:What's a better gig than in the Big Ten right now, being the king of the Big Ten right now? You might not be in a week. And Michigan having 30 years of swag and you get the right mix? You're going to be beating people off with a stick trying to get on this program. Going to North Carolina? Get out of here. Okay, whatever. It's not? Who played at North Carolina? I don't know. I don't know. Walker. I know. There's a number 23 that I only know about who's in the building with the 23 you're referring to right now. Here you go, TJ. You cut down a net there yesterday. You're going to like this one, TJ.

19:12Rich Eisen:Yaxel Lendeborg, baby. Yaxel. Let's go. What else? Michigan-Arizona is the de facto national championship game. What are we talking about? Have you had this thing all queued up this entire show? Or you just made this out? No, I had it written last night. I told you, TJ. It's absurd. Just look at the odds, right? Michigan and Arizona are both plus 150. So what? Then it jumps up to 500 Illinois, plus 650 Connecticut. Like, everyone's expecting the winner of this game to cut the nuts down. Remember what Jay Billis said? 1993. What is he? Five slamma jamma. What does he know? Takes care of Louisville in the de facto national championship game, and then suddenly Jim Valvano's looking for somebody to hug.

19:53Rich Eisen:That's true. Give me a break. I don't want to hear it. It's absurd. And I'm not even, I'm not one of these types of fans that's saying, oh, good luck, Arizona. I see the wagon. That's how we led the show the other day. I get it. Big Ten strong, but Arizona's a wagon. My team's looking like a wagon right now too. Come on now. That's nuts. Because Michigan and or Arizona could easily lose to Illinois and or UConn. One thing that Michigan has not had to do in this tournament, which is crazy, chock full of Big Ten teams, is face another Big Ten team. They have not done that yet. So, you got any more?

20:40Rich Eisen:Yeah. One more? So we can bring out our direct. Yeah, one for 14, eight strikeouts. Bo Bichette is the worst Mets free agent signing this Saturday. I think that's accurate. You want to chime in on that? Already booed? Sorry, three. He's already been booed? Getting booed at home. And he said he's surprised it hasn't happened sooner. A whiff of Beltran. But we. Ooh. I like that cologne. Well, I hate that cologne. We know who Bo Bichette is. He's going to be all right. That's the thing I hate about baseball, right? What do you hate about baseball? Three games into the season. I love baseball. I'm reading teams on Twitter and threads just all of a sudden ready to just torch everything.

21:17Rich Eisen:It's three games. Like, what are we talking about? It's New York Mets fans. Yeah, Mets fans. It's Mets fans. Let's go. They demand some standard of play for their whoopie pies. Whoopie. Whoopie. By the way, I don't even know who would be the worst Mets signing this season. No, no, you just threw that out there. Yeah, I just put it in there. Look at this. Mr. Mets is so happy. We are 2-1. I know. You had a walk-off win. It could have easily been 1-2 against the Pirates this weekend. It could have been 0-3. Or we could have been 3-0. That's true. Solid present. Like the Yankees. We're 2-1. He only gave out one run against the Giants, only one.

21:56Rich Eisen:One single run. He didn't get any hits. I got problems with our third base coach right now. Well, you should have a problem with your third base, man. Yeah. The whole point of this conversation. Well, no, because the fact is we put Baty at third. The guy who's actually there. That's what we got to do. The guy who's playing third and talking about it's putting a lot of mental stress on him to learn how to play third. Thus, the whiffs. We've got a third base. Good one, Chris. Great finish. All right, let's take a break. Next stunt, Chris. A man who knows all about drama, Antoine Fuqua, the director of Michael and theaters near you coming next month in a moment.

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24:21Rich Eisen:Inside Antoine Fuqua is here. We just saw a trailer from Michael. It's awesome, man. Thank you, man. Congratulations. And what do you think of when you're watching your trailer back right now? You must have spent a ton of time on that, obviously. Yeah, two years and one month. Oh, wow. Two years and one month. It was a journey, but I just had so much fun making this movie, man. Well, I bet. And you could see just from, you know, the lush scenes and scenery that you put on the screen right there. Start of the Jackson 5 right up to the early parts of his solo career, right? That's right. Pretty much.