Hour 3: Overreaction Monday, Rich’s Raiders ‘4 Downs’ Preview, plus Lou Diamond Phillips In-Studio

13 Jul 2026 · 48 min · 16 chapters

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In short

This Rich Eisen Show Hour 3 covers: (1) Rich’s wedding recap segment “Overreaction Monday” about Chris Brockman and Sarah Tiana’s Las Vegas ceremony at the Little Church of the West, including vows, the ring reveal, and their son Cage’s reactions; (2) sports hot takes—Justin Herbert “most overrated” QB, Titans winning 10+ games, Red Sox surging (17-5 in last 22), MLB Home Run Derby predictions, World Cup final odds (France vs Argentina), U.S. men’s soccer never reaching top-8, and Jannik Sinner’s Wimbledon run; (3) Lou Diamond Phillips in-studio promoting Gangland; (4) “Four Downs” Raiders preview: Ashton Jeanty sophomore outlook, Clint Kubiak head-coaching readiness, Fernando Mendoza QB timeline, and Max Crosby injury/contract-trade simmering status.

Guests

Lou Diamond Phillips (actor; Gangland; discusses La Bamba/Young Guns/Longmire) plus earlier-hour guests Seth Wickersham (ESPN senior writer) and Maurice Adu (World Cup analyst).

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Wedding Recap: Chris and Sarah

0:30 to 0:55

Rich shares insights on the wedding he attended, highlighting emotional moments and key people involved.

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Wedding Recap: Chris and Sarah

1:30 to 3:24

Rich shares insights on the wedding he attended, highlighting emotional moments and key people involved.

“Live from the Rich Eisen Show's studio in Los Angeles.”

Behind the Ceremony: Details and Memories

3:24 to 6:49

The hosts discuss specific moments from the wedding ceremony and their significance.

“This is the wedding I think everyone was referring to.”

Wedding Stories and Reflections

6:49 to 10:34

Rich and the guests share more personal stories and reflections from the wedding experience.

“And then I walk outside, and I turn to my right, and there's the three of you.”

Overreaction Monday: Introductions

10:34 to 11:46

The hosts shift gears to discuss Overreaction Monday, introducing the segment humorously.

“Susie and I were honored to have been included.”

NFL Overreactions: Justin Herbert Discussion

11:46 to 14:00

The hosts analyze Justin Herbert's performance and status in the NFL, debating his ranking.

“All right, Christopher, your first Overreaction Monday is a married man.”

NFL Team Predictions and Player Discussions

14:00 to 20:50

Listen in as the hosts discuss various NFL teams, player performances, and predictions for the upcoming season.

“I think they're going to be a better offensive team with better results.”

Interview with Lou Diamond Phillips

24:24 to 28:01

Lou Diamond Phillips shares insights about his film career, his roles, and the experiences that shaped him as an actor.

“A film that's in limited theaters and on all digital platforms right now.”

Lou Diamond Phillips on Early Career

28:01 to 29:48

Learn about Lou Diamond Phillips' challenging start in Hollywood and key roles.

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Memorable Moments from Young Guns

29:49 to 30:53

Discover funny and memorable experiences from the set of Young Guns.

“I'm there with Charlie and with Emilio and Kiefer, you guys I was looking up to.”
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Reunion and Future Projects for Young Guns

30:54 to 36:21

Hear about the upcoming Young Guns reunion and potential sequel talks.

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Promoting Gangland and Wrap Up

36:22 to 38:06

Lou discusses his latest film Gangland and shares final thoughts.

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Upcoming Sports Events and Four Downs Segment

40:08 to 42:05

Rich discusses upcoming sports events and introduces the Four Downs segment.

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Introduction to 'Four Downs' Segment

42:05 to 43:10

Learn about the new segment 'Four Downs' and its concept.

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Las Vegas Raiders 'Four Downs' Preview

43:10 to 47:30

A detailed preview of the Las Vegas Raiders' upcoming season and key questions.

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Upcoming Shows and Closing Remarks

47:35 to 48:30

Wrap-up of the show and a teaser for the next episode focused on the Jets.

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1:31We are back. Live from the Rich Eisen Show's studio in Los Angeles. We are back! We are back! This is the Rich Eisen Show.

1:41Rich Eisen:The mojo's back. Yeah, baby. Earlier on the show, ESPN senior writer Seth Wickersham. World Cup analyst Maurice Adu. Coming up, actor Lou Diamond Phillips. And now, it's Rich Eisen. And show here on the air on this Monday of baseball all-star week on this Monday, right around the corner from NFL training camps opening up Monday after our week off here on the rich eyes and show we're back on Disney plus the ESPN app ESPN radio, Sirius XM channel 80. If you missed the first two hours, Seth Wickersham joined us to go down the wormhole of his deep dive of hanging with Sean Payton during last year's playoffs and talking about Sean Payton in the Denver Broncos future of this year and beyond.

2:33Rich Eisen:Maurice Adu talking about the World Cup that we've seen so far and previewing the rest of the semifinals in the final that could come, what the matchups could be with France and Spain and England and Argentina remaining. If you missed any of it, it's all there on Disney+. It's all going to be there for you to listen to on our podcast network as well. Check out our YouTube page, youtube.com slash RichEyesandShow. It's really taking off and on fire is our Facebook page as well. We're closing in on a million followers there of our Facebook page. So follow Rich Eisen Show there. Why don't you tick tock and more?

3:10Rich Eisen:So listen, I've been holding off talking about it for the first two hours of the show because, you know, I attended a wedding while we were off that a lot of people have been asking me about. wanted me to comment about it wanted me to talk about two people who gave their vows and showed their love for one another and listen it's finally time for me to talk about what I saw in the Little Church of the West in Las Vegas, Nevada ladies and gentlemen, the marriage between Chris Brockman and Sarah Tiana with their beautiful boy cage between them every photograph that you're about to see, I took Oh, nice.

3:52Rich Eisen:Yes, thank you. This is the wedding I think everyone was referring to. The one I was most eagerly anticipating. An outstanding, beautiful affair, Christopher. Beautiful. I appreciate the up-to-date pictures that was going on. Okay, now, real quick. The lady in the blue dress who married you is?

4:14Chris Brockman:Met her maybe my second or third day at Syracuse freshman year. Her name is Archie. Diehard DC sports fan. Redskins days, wizards, everything. Die hard. And so she's one of my oldest friends, and we've known her a long time. And she did a beautiful job. And just thought she would be perfect. And that was a big reveal. Didn't tell any of our friends from the CUSE that were there that she was going to be involved. And so they were all kind of like, what is going on? Why are you up there? And then when she started talking, she absolutely killed it. It couldn't have been better. Everything went absolutely perfect.

4:51Rich Eisen:I know you as well as I've known you, and I could see when you walked in with your boy that you were really bubbling beneath the surface, emotional. Yeah. You dressed the same. You got the same suit. Same sneakers. Sneakers. Pretty much exactly the same.

5:14Chris Brockman:Tie, white shirt, Travis Scott, Jordan Lowe's. The only thing different was the haircut.

5:22Rich Eisen:pretty much

5:23Chris Brockman:when I was six I probably had that hair

5:25Rich Eisen:not so much at 45 and you know then Sarah walked in and it was on I was really hoping she was going to have sneakers on too

5:36Chris Brockman:she changed into them later this is where Elvis got married a lot of celebrities have gotten there Elvis, Judy Garland, Billy Bob and Angelina Jolie got married there John Daly I think I saw beautiful Beautiful.

5:50Rich Eisen:Just beautiful. And your vows that you delivered to each other, you know, Sarah, beautiful and funny. And you definitely beat her in the tears department. Yeah. Like, I mean, like it was a rough. It was a it was a route. Kind of. Yeah. A little softy over in that department, you know, with your boy right there. Golf tan line. I wasn't going to say it, but you did. You could have even that out. I think I could have. Oh, man. One hour outside could have taken care of that. Just beautiful. Yeah. The way that you guys. And then this was the moment. Look at Cage looking up. Oh, look at Cage. I didn't notice that.

6:29Rich Eisen:Yeah, Cage. Cage is like, yuck. He's like, ah. Get a room, you two. Can we have a moment? Yeah, good shot. That's a great shot. Get a room. That is amazing. Cage just checking it out.

6:44Rich Eisen:Cage is like, Dad, why don't you fill out your table?

6:46Chris Brockman:Yeah, what are you doing? Look at him.

6:48Rich Eisen:He's just like, oh, you guys are gross. There you go. And then I walk outside, and I turn to my right, and there's the three of you. Did you sign a document there? No.

6:59Chris Brockman:So the way they do it at that place is that you can actually get married by Elvis, I think a bunch of random people, or you can have someone that you know do it. So they don't have to go through all the paperwork. After you're done, you go in this little room, and their actual Justice of the Peace does it for you. Oh, so this. We were doing that. We had just finished doing that. No kidding. I had no idea. And you walked by and you were like, hey. I'm like, hey.

7:26Rich Eisen:I'm like, stay right there.

7:27Chris Brockman:Because the light was great. Yeah, yeah. And I just love this little room. Yeah. You know. So we kind of went in there real quick. And do you? Do you? Yes. Power vested me. State of Nevada. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. I had no idea. I thought you were just trying to stay out of the sun. No. Blazing hot. It was very hot. Thank you all for bearing with that. But yeah. We had just gotten done doing that. No. I did not know that. Yeah.

7:50Rich Eisen:I did not know that. Beautiful. That's some weird right. All right. Now, the follow-up question. Hold up your left hand. Oh, man. The first Rich Eyes and Show with that baby on. Oh, the reveal.

8:01Chris Brockman:Look at that. That's a ring. First thing I said to him this morning. Man, let me see it. I don't know how you guys do this. Really getting used to it. After I got married, I just kept banging it on.

8:12Rich Eisen:I'm doing a lot of this. Back of the chairs. I'm doing a lot of this. Doing a lot of twisting.

8:15Chris Brockman:okay yeah just kind of like yeah it's also really weird just like washing your hands doing anything with it on lotion just kind of like what what is this now all right and i i didn't ask

8:29Rich Eisen:you this off the air i'm sorry to ask you i'm here because i i've known you for a long time you know it's finally happened and you know you were just it would always blow your mind the whole idea of doing it, it being getting married, you look the same. It looks like you're doing fine with it.

8:49Chris Brockman:You're good. This is good. Everything about our lives doesn't change really at all. But it does kind of feel different. Yeah, man. Yeah. It's been a great week. It was kind of a whirlwind. Look, we were in Vegas for a long time. I know a lot of my friends, you kind of just were in and out. Oh, yeah. Very jealous of that. We were there more than five days. Wow. Which is, you know. It's amazing you got your shirt on. It's three and a half too long, really. But it was great. We had a great time. Everyone, all of our friends, you know, we said this during the ceremony. You know, everyone that we asked said yes and came.

9:24Chris Brockman:And so that really meant a lot.

9:25Rich Eisen:Okay, buddy. And I know your mom and your dad, your brother, your sister, all the Brockmans and Tianas.

9:32Chris Brockman:It was great to see the whole family together. The Haynes family. And nobody had a better time. I was telling TJ, nobody loves Vegas more than Cage, bro. Really? That man loves himself some Vegas. At one point, it was really funny. I did get a picture of it. I should have sent it back. But Monday morning, we had all kinds of drinks and snacks for the party bus and just to have. And so me and I guess my now brother-in-law, we went up to the cars to get them. And we had kind of a few. So at one point, Cage was with us. And he was pulling a cooler full of beers through a Vegas casino. And I'm like, this is the first time.

10:13Chris Brockman:Probably won't be the last time. He pulls a cooler full of beer in Vegas. Fantastic. So he's got this picture of Cage just wheeling his face.

10:22Rich Eisen:It was pretty funny. Okay. But he, you know. Hey, we're back on the show. So we got all week. It's fine. I need to see that photograph. Congratulations. It was absolutely beautiful. Susie and I were honored to have been included.

10:38Chris Brockman:And, you know, you spoke at the dinner, and you said some very nice things. I meant all of them.

10:43Rich Eisen:I meant all of them. And I told the story of Chris, who he used to be and who he is now. He used to be that guy who didn't return Tupperware that Susie gave him. Oh, look at that right there. This is official right here. That's it, Hitched. Beautiful. I told him all sorts of fun stories. But this is the man I know now, Sarah Tiana. you know was an awesome awesome human as well and you guys are a perfect couple and congrats man thanks last thing I said to him before we went for a break I was like man you used to take naps in the middle of the day yeah now I know that look at him again he again you're all groans up and the relationship between the Rich Eisen show and women's sports now is now official which I appreciate no longer living in sin amen except for a young child dragging a beard.

11:34Rich Eisen:Yeah, what are you doing? Through a casino. You got a cage. You got a cage. What's better than that? It was literally perfect. It is funny as hell. Okay. I know what's better than that. Overreaction Monday.

11:45Chris Brockman:Hey. Hit it. That was terrible.

11:48Rich Eisen:That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction Monday's Monday. All right, Christopher, your first Overreaction Monday is a married man. I don't know if you're going to be Is he less hot-takey now? I don't know. Is he softer? Settle down? Is he softer now? I guess we're about to find out. I guess.

12:06Chris Brockman:Guys, this is how you know some things are different, but some things never change. Thank you, sir. Justin Herbert is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL. Did you see the list that came out? Saw the list. Jeremy Fowler, every year, talks to execs and scouts and coaches, and he kind of releases them for all 11 positions. Well, today was quarterbacks. I have a feeling we're going to talk to Jeremy soon about all of this. Justin Herbert. Oh, man. I had a Drake May. What are we doing? Justin Herbert, the most overrated quarterback in the NFL.

12:37Rich Eisen:You can't just sit here and say how wonderful it is that Drake May has gone from completely unranked in this to top 10. That folks consider him a top 10 quarterback in the National Football League. Top 10 too low. Justin Herbert's skill level is still so off the charts. and I test to all 22 tests. It's just he hasn't put it together at the most important time. Yeah, I like the wins test. I understand that. Results test, I get it. Results test. Well, I mean, at this point in time, though, he's – let's put it this way. He's got one more year of having the physical attributes carry him into the top ten of this regard.

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13:23Rich Eisen:How about that? I'll buy that. That's all I'm saying. I don't think he is overrated. He's just really, really, really good without any of the results to go with it. And that's just, I think that is a fair assessment of his career so far. And it's time. And I think the Chargers are set in a way that Herbert has not been set yet. Mike McDaniel, the other guys that they have put together on this team, I think they're going to be a better offensive team with better results. And last year, dude, he lost both of his all-world tackles. Come on now. He did. He did. And I was there. I called that game Texans versus Chargers.

14:19Rich Eisen:Guy had two seconds. Two. I felt like somebody's in his lap. So I know that that's caping. Drake may have been because my son was at Madison Beer's concert in Boston last night. I don't know. I think he's still in the glow of that. So what else you got over there?

14:39Chris Brockman:All right. One more football topic and we got a little hodgepodge. I'm scrolling. Keep an eye on the news.

14:44Rich Eisen:By the way, Zan loves Madison Beer not as much as Taylor Swift. So anybody who slags on Travis Kelsey, he's got a problem with. Now it's Herbert. Just be careful. That's all I'm saying. Ted Lightley coming to my house with Herbert Slander.

15:00Chris Brockman:What do we call the beer fans? Beers? I don't know. Great. I don't know. We'll find out. I don't know. I don't know. Guys, the team, I think we need to start talking about a little bit more. And Tajay Spears is right, TJ. The Titans are going to win 10-plus games this year. In football? He said they're going to be over 500. I'm doing them one better. 10-plus wins for the Titans.

15:23Rich Eisen:I sat next to Robert Sala on Saturday night. Oh, beautiful ball, man. We took in the Nate Bergazzi performance together. By the way, Ray Romano got up there, too. Oh, Ray. Derek Stroop was on this program just in this chair a couple months ago. Oh, love it. Very funny night. And he's excited. Sala is excited.

15:46Rich Eisen:But, you know, I'll just pump a break on it right now.

15:50Chris Brockman:We don't know what the Colts are going to be.

15:52Rich Eisen:Jacksonville could have been a one hit wonder They're set, I love Dable I love the addition of Brian Dable I love it and I do think they've got better offensive weapons around Spears now that they obviously went and took Carnell Tate right? But to just suddenly say they're going to be a double digit win team that's a tall order right now

16:19Chris Brockman:One or two teams always come out of nowhere I know that. Every single year.

16:23Rich Eisen:I know that. This could be it. What else you got over there, Chris?

16:25Chris Brockman:All right, Mikey, you can change the music. Change my music. I'm riding high. Last week was the week of Brockman. Or Tiana. Yeah, I'm going to put this out. Her too. Okay. The Red Sox are the best team in the American League. All right, man. What are we talking about?

16:39Rich Eisen:What are we talking about? The Red Sox are the best team in the American League in the last week and a half. Oh, in the last month. Okay. All right. 17-5, last 22 games. Okay. Who's better than that? Nobody. Nobody. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for you. Second straight year where you're like, we're done. We're done. What are we doing firing our manager? What are we doing? Last year, it's like, what are we doing? Trading rapid endeavors. Right. What are we doing? And then all of a sudden, something comes out of nowhere. Right? You can't name two players on our team. What are you talking about?

17:15Rich Eisen:Who wants to? Who cares? It's irrelevant. of it.

17:19Chris Brockman:You thought about it. Who wants to? Jim Rice.

17:22Rich Eisen:Just look at the screen right there.

17:23Chris Brockman:You don't even know who any of those guys are. Who Abreu and Yoshida is. Maybe those two. Jim Rice and Carlton Fisk. Great question. Not playing baseball. Somewhere in Florida.

17:34Rich Eisen:Good God.

17:35Chris Brockman:What else? Moving on. This is not going to please Jake, our social media guy, who will be there tonight. A non-Philly is going to win the Home Run Derby tonight. Bryce Harper and Schwarber involved. Okay.

17:49Rich Eisen:Dude, anything goes. If just 20, it's just basically the winner is required to take only 50 swings. Yeah. That's it. All right. I'll take Ben Rice.

18:04Chris Brockman:I mean, past that I saw was kind of dumping on this, but it keeps him fresh. Huh? These guys were tired swinging for three straight minutes. Yeah.

18:14Rich Eisen:No, I know. In the last few years. I like the idea. I think it's going to be better than people think. Let's do what's more likely. What's the Contreras? What's more likely? What's more likely? A Yankee or a Red Sox wins tonight? That'd be a fun little showdown.

18:30Chris Brockman:Oh, Rice versus Contreras? Yeah. Oh, sure. Sneaky. Okay. Good signing. Is that it? No. Okay. The World Cup has been all about the superstars and the stars have been showing out. And so it just seems like we are destined for Mbappe, the Messi, World Cup final showdown.

18:49Rich Eisen:We're getting it. I don't think that's an overreaction at all. Isn't that the odds-on favorite to see France versus Argentina? Certainly since everybody thinks that FIFA wants it. It certainly seems like it. By the way, you called England winning it all. I did. Because you're like, what would be more of a comeback win than England winning in America's 250? Right, right.

19:10Chris Brockman:Payback for 1776. You know what I mean?

19:12Rich Eisen:Payback. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. King George. The redcoats are not only coming, they're finally here. You know what I mean? But it would have been perfect if the final was in Philly. France versus England was a very American Revolution story as well. That's true.

19:26Chris Brockman:You've got to just see Hamilton once and you'll get it. I'm down with that, too. All right, a couple more. American soccer fans, here's the thing. We just need to accept it. All the gatekeepers just need to accept that the U.N.'s men's team will never be a top eight team in the world. Never. It's not going to happen. Overreaction. It's just not going to happen. How? How is it going to happen? Because you never know it's sports.

19:47Rich Eisen:That's why. You never know.

19:48Chris Brockman:No. They care about soccer more in all of these other countries than we care about anything else here. So just accept it. Be happy with, like, getting excited every four years. Okay.

19:59Rich Eisen:And maybe going to the quarterfinals. But you can't sit here and say never say never. You can't do it. Not in sports. You can't do it. You know, I refuse to accept that. All right. Last one.

20:10Chris Brockman:Yeah. Sinner did it again. Another Wimbledon win back to back. He's going to finish his career with more majors than Alcaraz.

20:18Rich Eisen:Oh, so you think I should start talking about getting a point off of Sinner? That's what I'm talking about. Oh. That's what I'm talking about. I don't know. Alcaraz has just been hurt this year. That's all. I'm still gunning for him. He may be trying to hide from me. You think? He's ducking you. Yeah. Yeah. Sinner is already finishing his career as the least Italian looking man from Italy. Right. Like every time I see the Italy bar, I'm like, he is.

20:43Chris Brockman:Huh?

20:44Rich Eisen:That doesn't. OK. Can I say such a thing?

20:47Chris Brockman:Sure.

20:47Rich Eisen:I did. All right. Let's take a break. Lou Diamond Phillips is in our green room and he is about to be coming out here on the Rich Eisen show. But before we do, I want to talk about LinkedIn. Running a small business means every hire matters. and a bad hire that costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow. The challenge is finding that person without sorting through resumes. And this is where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent. With Hiring Pro, you can hire with confidence and build the team you need. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire.

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24:23Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show podcast. A film that's in limited theaters and on all digital platforms right now. Lou Diamond Phillips is here in this film talking about what it was about for our television audience and for our radio audience that's now just joined. You'd mentioned the film Training Day and Colors is something that your character reminds you of. Yeah, it's the old bull taking the young one under his wing. But in this case, you know, the cop is female. Donna Namra does an amazing job. And I mean, the entire cast is absolutely beautiful. There are a Nick Stahl, who the TV audience saw in the clip.

25:06My old friends Irene Bedard and Kim Guerrero and I had recommended them for these roles. Right. But there are a number of young indigenous actors who are getting their biggest roles to date in this film. Many of them were background artists in Killers of the Flower Moon. And some of them, you know, are getting to deliver dialogue for the first time. And I'm so proud of them because they absolutely kill it. It's fantastic. That's pretty cool.

25:28Rich Eisen:Yeah, that's pretty cool that they get an opportunity in something like that for for for something like this as well. What what do you get the most when people see you like you're about to head to an airport? Yes. We're done. When you're walking through an airport and walking around, what do you get the most? Richie! Yeah. That's it? Yeah, 40 years of that, dude. Yeah, yeah. And everybody thinks they're the first one. Oh, yeah. People sing to you? Do they sing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mostly people who don't know the words to La Bamba, which is fine. You know, it's a la, la, la, la, la, la. Yeah, I got you.

26:03You can stop right there. I know where you're going with this. Right. You know.

26:08Rich Eisen:What was that experience like for you, though? Oh, my goodness. Well, I mean, what's really interesting is that it's coming up on 40 years. Next year is the 40 year. I know. I know. We filmed it in 86. It came out in 87. I don't know where the time went, you know, until I look in the mirror. and you know what's actually really cool too is that there's a documentary about to come out called American Pachuco The Legend of Luis Valdez and it chronicles Luis's rise from a farm working family himself to creating the Teatro Campesino and then writing Zoot Suit that was a huge hit here and then went to Broadway and they didn't understand it and then leading to La Bamba and there are audition tapes in that that I had never seen.

26:57What do you mean? Meaning me auditioning for the movie. I go, look at that skinny little kid. I mean, that's ridiculous. You know, but it's a fantastic film. And, you know, if you really want a great peek behind the sort of genesis artistically of that film, it's a great one, too.

27:16Rich Eisen:So when you got the role, how many credits did you have already in your career? Oh, man. I don't know. A dozen or so. I started in the Dallas film industry. I was doing professional work at the same time I was going to college at University of Texas at Arlington. Had a degree. I got a degree in theater. But I got my first professional gig when I was 19 in a comedy troupe called The Zero Hour because we would do like these really raunchy Saturday Night Live type skits. at midnight in punk clubs. And if you weren't funny, they threw things at you. So not only did it make you good at comedy, it made you quick and agile.

28:01Rich Eisen:Yes, you have a quick move to your left. Exactly. As well as a great punchline. Indeed. Understood. Yeah. Oh, interesting. And so how soon after La Bamba did Young Guns hit you? My first three films in Hollywood were La Bamba, Stand and Deliver, and Young Guns in that order. Wow. So I'm almost out of money. You know, we make La Mamba. It's a low-budget film made for$6 million. Right. And a negative pickup, you know, it was not destined to be a hit. It didn't have Blockbuster written all over it. You know, I mean, I'm an unknown kid from Texas playing a fairly obscure Mexican-American, you know, rocker who was a footnote in Buddy Holly's, you know, obituary.

28:44And so it wasn't, you know, like, oh, my gosh, this one's going to be, you know, great guns. So didn't know what was going to happen with it. I ran out of money in December of 86 because, you know, even with three roommates, you know, I only had like$3 ,000 left because I gave a bunch of money to my mom. And then I landed an episode of Miami Vice. In that episode of Miami Vice called Red Tape, Viggo Mortensen is my partner and Annette Bening is the girlfriend of the bad guy. No, it's crazy. And because of that, Eddie Olmos, who had done a zoot suit with, you know, the Valdez brothers, Luis and Danny, knew that I played Richie.

29:22And so he goes, OK, this this kid might, you know, turn into something. And he literally writes down a number for me, hands it to me and goes, call this number when you get to L.A. I'm doing a movie next month. You have to be in it. That's how I got into Stand and Deliver, you know. And it wasn't until Young Guns, which came a year later in 88, we shot in January of 88, not until I stepped on that set that I go, I've arrived. Wow. I'm there with Charlie and with Emilio and Kiefer, you guys I was looking up to. I'd seen Dermot in Casey's work and all of a sudden I was like, I'm the brown Brad Packer.

30:01I'm Brad Pack adjacent.

30:05What was it like on that set, man? I can't tell. No, no, dude. No, listen. I mean, we were all... It's like Fight Club? It's like Vegas? First of all, Charlie Sheen was there, so enough said. Although he's out there burying his soul now. Maybe it's, I don't know, penance or something. But thank goodness there were no camera phones, and TMZ at the time did not exist. I mean, come on. You know, we're all guys in our mid-20s. you know, some of us, most of us, a single, you know, out in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Yeah.

30:44Rich Eisen:There's not even one story that you could clean up or anything like that? Okay. All right. Okay. So Emilio is a huge prankster. Okay. All right. So on the first day of filming, we all get these boxes from 20th Century Fox. And, you know, there's a card that said, you know, from your friends at Fox, just want you to know what we what we really think of you and he had put cow pies in all of these boxes and so it's like okay all right it's on it's on yeah and a couple of weeks later and Emilio's you know complaining about the fact that he doesn't have a girlfriend it's so hard for him to date he's Emilio Estevez after all yes and and um we uh and now Kiefer and I have vowed revenge uh uh so uh we're we're literally shooting on on a sheep ranch and so i paid i paid the rancher 100 bucks to rent a sheep for the day and uh you know there's a brothel scene in in young guns uh i had them put the sheep in his trailer in a corset and and a garter belt and a sign that said you know take me a meal i'm yours um and and that's funny enough but he we were out shooting all day in the damn desert.

31:57And by the time he got back, the sheep had eaten the couch and crapped on everything. And so it was even better. That was memorable.

32:08Rich Eisen:That's the next level. You see, that's the unintended cherry on top, if you will. A nice little cherry. A little bit on top right there. Well, sprinkles. It's like sprinkles. Oh, my God. Is there any moment where you guys are just acting like you're, you know, you're sowing your oats, if you will, and Jack Palance walks in and he's just like, what the hell's the matter with you guys? Every day. Oh, my gosh. The day that I met Jack, it would take us like 20 minutes to get propped up because the knives and the guns and this and that. And I'm getting propped up, and it's Mr. Palance's first day, and he comes up, and all he has to do is choose a gun.

32:46And the prop guy looks at me, and I want to yell, of course. And I step back in all deference. And Jack goes through and takes his time and finally comes up with like this Derringer or whatever, you know, tucks it away. And as he turns, he hadn't even acknowledged me standing there. And, you know, I do my bit. You know, I go on for like two minutes gushing about what an honor it is to be in a Western with him and what a legend. And I've been a fan for so long. And he looks at me and he goes, yes, and walks away. So, you know.

33:20Rich Eisen:Yes. But even that, right? No, it was great. If I were you, I'd look around and be like, did anybody else just see that exchange? No, just the prop guy. Just the prop guy. Yeah, but obviously it's burned into my memory. That sounds like that's straight out of your comedy show that you did to start your career. Exactly, right. And then which TV show that you've been a part of are you most proud of? Oh, see, no, I've been really fortunate. Right. You know, I get Longmire a lot. I bet you do. Longmire, especially, you know, I was just in New Orleans. And then, you know, there's a Young Guns reunion, by the way.

33:59Okay. September 11th at Fan Expo in Dallas. Who's going? All six of us. Wow. For the first time in almost 40 years. All six of us will be at the same fan convention in Dallas.

34:15Rich Eisen:So it's you, Kiefer. Yeah. Charlie. Charlie. Emilio. They found Casey. I don't know what, you know, refrigerator box they found him in, but, you know. Come on. In case he's a med girl that way, right? No, no, I love him. I love him dearly. The guy is, I think, very successful in real estate. All six of you? Running some clubs. Yeah, all six of us. Dermot. Yeah, so we're all going to be there. And, you know, they're charging an arm and a leg for the group photo. But, hey, you know, once in a lifetime. You weren't as a day. So, okay. Now, see, now I'm like, now I got to circle back. What's the plan?

34:55Rich Eisen:Like, there's a dinner or something? Like, you've got to do something on six of you, right? Other than show up in a... Oh, no, we're going to show up and then somebody will lead the charge and the rest of us will follow. Cow pies and sheep? We're going to do something. Probably. Probably, you know, just to celebrate the good old days, you know. That's a quote. You must be looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to it, you know, especially, you know, like seeing Casey and Charlie. I haven't seen Charlie in forever. I've been speaking to Emilio quite a bit because of Young Guns 3, and that is a definite possibility.

35:26He has written the script. He's talking to the studio. He would direct it, and hopefully we'll see that happen.

35:33Rich Eisen:Well, come on now. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm hoping that this kind of reaches that tipping point where the studio people finally understand what a fan base there is out there for this film. Well, I mean, hopefully this September event will show that. And then, like, listen, what's old is new again. Exactly. In so many ways. In so many ways. And you know what I love? The Top Gun Maverick. Exactly. You know what I mean? Or the Bill and Ted. I mean, there's a bunch of these that, you know, still have life in them. And I don't think there's a fan convention that I go to that some, you know, mid-40s, you know, dad doesn't come up with his teenage son and said, I showed him young guns.

36:15You know what I mean? It's a generational thing. Yes. And I love it. And I don't think that anybody has, you know, Hollywood is a bubble. They live inside a bubble and they don't get out to real America much. And I think if they literally took the time to quantify the amount of support there is out there, they'd be signing the check already.

36:35Rich Eisen:Okay. So here's a, listen, I know we've just met in person here and you've been on the show a couple of times. I need like a selfie. Well, yeah. Like I need one of those. I need to get one of those. You snap it and you send it. We got to see it. Done deal. Something like that. Done deal. I'll make sure. And then just to recap, Gangland available now in limited theaters and on all digital platforms. Check it out. Right now, we are at number eight on Fandango. Fantastic. We are at number 15 on Apple. Number eight on Apple in Canada. I mean, it's going great guns, so to speak. And the reviews just a couple of days ago, we were at 100 % on Rotten Tomatoes.

37:14It is an amazing film. It is a fantastic film. One of my best roles ever.

37:18Rich Eisen:Okay. And then in September, the Young Guns cast getting back together for the first time since Young Guns 2, I'd imagine, right? Well, yeah. But, I mean, Charlie came out to visit on that one. But, you know, Dermot and Casey weren't in it. So then Young Guns since the original Young Guns. Yeah. But, you know, like I said, I see. Where can people go to? Dallas, Texas. Dallas, Texas in September. And, yeah, Kiefer, I see all the time. So it promises to be fun. Okay. But now there is TMZ and now there are camera phones. It won't be too much fun. Have your head on a swivel for that. And then lastly, if you see Lou Diamond Phillips, you are not the first person to bring up LeBron.

37:55Rich Eisen:Don't do it. Just let the man be. Just say hi and move on. That's what I'm just saying. Thanks for being here. You bet, Rich. You got it. Lou Diamond Phillips here on The Rich Eyes. Everybody check out Gangland, all digital platforms. Right now, we're back to finish up this show in a moment.

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40:09Rich Eisen:Make life brighter with Pella Windows and Doors. Listen, Taylor Twelman's on tomorrow's program to talk about France and Spain and England and Argentina and the World Cup's great and all that stuff. The home run derbies tonight, the Major League Baseball All-Star game is Tuesday. That's great. The NBA, we're all waiting on LeBron, right? We're all waiting on LeBron. I'm not. LeBron James. Well, the Kawhi trades in the freezer. Yeah, we all know. What's red hot right now. Old. What's red hot right now is LeBron, and all eyes can be on LeBron. I don't think you're going to glean anything from him.

40:47Rich Eisen:Just everybody keep eyes on Jim Gray, wherever he is. He was sitting next to Mark Davis last night. Oh, is that right? At the Fever Aces game. I mean, because Jim is, I think, Jim's part of the Hall of Fame that's out there, that Brady's part of and everything like that. At any rate, yeah. Just keep an eye on Jim. So if Jim's flying somewhere. Decision two. I'm ready. So there's lots going on. Philly. You know what I mean? Lots going on. But the bottom line is, we're all just Biden time. We're all just twiddling thumbs. And we've been doing that since the confetti fell on the Seattle Seahawks.

41:32Rich Eisen:And what do we call it? San Francisco Stadium for at least five more days? San Francisco. Bay Area. Bay Area. No, it's Levi. It's back. They've taken it down. Oh, that's right. So they're done. SoFi is SoFi. We're back. All right. There's only one place. At any rate, I'm just saying. We're waiting. It's almost there. It's almost there. And to help pass the time as well, we're bringing back an old staple of this program. Was this the first repeatable segment we ever came up with?

42:04Chris Brockman:That's a good question.

42:06Rich Eisen:11 years ago? I want to say yes. A segment called Four Down. Four Down. Listen, I could give you opinions on things all the time. You got to put them in a list. Put them in a box. Took you long. Took you long. Stuff. It took you a long time to do power rankings, Rich. Well, I mean, you guys were twisting my arm until I finally did it. I'm just saying, like, you got to come up with ideas and stuff. So we came up with a segment called Four Downs, where I would give you four opinions of something, and each one would be a down. That would work for me. With the fourth one being the hottest subject of them all.

42:41Rich Eisen:I used to have a hot take plank. I think it's over here.

42:44Chris Brockman:Is the plank still around?

42:45Rich Eisen:It is. It's right around the corner. But I don't want to get up. My back's still killing me from the American Century Champions. You can go at any time right now. But that's enough about me. So what we're going to do is a four downs for all 32 National Football League teams. All the way up until the beginning of the season. And the way we're going to order it is in the draft order. Okay. Which means the first up in four downs to preview the upcoming National Football League season, presented by Hyundai, is the Las Vegas Raiders. four downs with rich here we go oh wow we got it we got animations and everything first down thank you so back now that we had we had uh chaz do like 15 years ago yeah all right first down on the las vegas raiders upcoming season is what will ashton jenty's sophomore season look like tj i have no idea what it's going to look like is it going to be an improvement last year if you had him in fantasy you're like what a total flop and then you look at his numbers and it's there you go high register pretty decent right yeah you know what i mean and and uh we're not talking about how his pre-snap stances anymore whatever the hell was going on last year hopefully the offensive line will do better yep and that's all predicated i think you're going to see how this is all linked together with second down go ahead and hit second down there mike if you want to hit me so much is Clint Kubiak head coaching material.

44:16Rich Eisen:I know he's from a coaching family, okay? I get it. And I know where he's been, and I know what he did last year as the offensive coordinator for the now defending champion Seattle Seahawks. But now he's in charge of a program. Now he's got, you know, like look at the people there that he was standing with at his introductory press conference with the GM. I know. How he longed. It's everybody. I mean, everybody's in the Hall of Fame. You know what I mean? Oh, where's Plunkett? Is he there too? I mean, listen, come on now. Gannon's there. Okay. Is he had coaching material or is he not? Is he ready for this moment or is he not?

44:55Rich Eisen:Because there's a ton of big-time decisions he's going to have to make. And that leads to third down. Third down. How long until Fernando Mendoza's GV1? Yeah, exactly. That's it. That's it, right? Because Kirk Cousins is there. Brilliant signing. Brilliant. Because if Mendoza's not ready, he's the guy. and who's going to be better at maybe helping Mendoza get ready even though he knows he's got a last chance saloon potentially here for the Vegas Raiders to show that he can still do this job and if he's not going to be there because Mendoza is going to be pushed up the depth chart because he's the first overall pick and it's time he's got to show somebody else that I'm still a quarterback worthy of your starting job so it's just a fascinating listen all the memes of them you know being in stepbrothers gear is fun and dandy, but when push comes to shove and it's time to start winning football games or play football games, when do we see Fernando Mendoza?

45:49Rich Eisen:And that is a big-time quarterback room scenario for Clint Kubiak to negotiate. I didn't even mention Brock Bowers here. I think he's going to have a nice season, if not definitely a better season than last, hopefully a more healthy season. Tyler Lindebaum being there is another way that you bring a young quarterback forward is having a superb center. And help that run game. Correct. So all of that's kind of mixed together. And that brings up fourth down. It's the hottest question of them all, man. What's the deal with Max Crosby? Is there still a deal or no deal at all? And this is now about to be front and center here.

46:31Rich Eisen:Because if the rescinded trade that brought him back to Vegas still did not handle whatever everybody felt needed to be handled back at the trade deadline, not the trade deadline, back at the new league year. If that's still simmering or if that's still relevant, then is this guy available in the same way that Micah Parsons was last year? Now, it's not contract related. It's injury related. How healthy is he going to be for training camp? He shows up running around like a deer. you know, then potentially it's still out there unless it's not out there anymore at all. And that's about to be front and center.

47:15You know, that's about to be front and center.

47:19Rich Eisen:And so those are my four downs in relation to the Las Vegas Raiders presented by Hyundai. And get into the Hyundai getaway sales event. Get away with a deal so right it almost feels wrong. Visit HyundaiUSA.com for details. So you know what that means for a Tuesday show? The Jets. Hey. Four downs with them. But for the Vegas Raiders, man, I think those are the most burning questions involving. No doubt. No doubt about it. And Crosby touches on the defensive side of things. But if you're bringing in an offensive coordinator from the defending now champions in Seattle and you got some studs at running back and tight end, how will that look?

48:00Rich Eisen:And what will be done with the quarterback spot? But those are my four downs for the Vegas Raiders. And that wraps up Monday's program. Chatting Edge on Tuesday. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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From the publisher

Rich recaps Chris Brockman’s Las Vegas Wedding to comedian/’Women’s
Sports Now’ co-host Sarah Tiana.
In ‘Overreaction Monday’ Rich weighs in on Chargers QB Justin Herbert,
the Tennessee Titans, Boston Red Sox, MLB’s Home Run Derby, a possible Kylian Mbappe vs Lionel Messi France vs Argentina World Cup final, and Jannik Sinner’s Wimbledon win.
Actor Lou Diamond Phillips joins Rich in-studio to promote his new
‘Gangland’ film, getting his career-altering break in ‘La Bamba,’ shares some great stories about making the iconic ‘Young Guns’ cowboy movie with Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland and Emelio Estevez, and more.  
In ‘4 Downs’ Rich previews the Raiders’ season with the top 4 questions
facing Las Vegas heading into training camp.

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