Hour 3: Overreaction Tuesday, Bengals Don’t Tag Trey Hendrickson, plus Dorian Missick In-Studio

10:48Rich Eisen:Can't confirm. And Taylor loves chicken. Can't confirm that, too. She does. I did not see that. You didn't know that about my daughter. She loves chicken. The only thing she doesn't like, I don't think she likes being talked about. So, let's not. Well, we're afraid. Let's say that we did. Don't play Baby Shark. It's a Tuesday. Overreaction Monday. The pod is there in your RSS feed for you to take in if you already haven't. Chris and I recorded it the minute I got back from the scouting combine. It's time for Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. Hit it.

11:20Dorian Missick:That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. That's why it sucks. Overreaction. Mondays. Monday. On a Tuesday.

11:30Rich Eisen:All right, Christopher, what do you have over there, please? What do you got? Hey, guys, we got a bevy of topics here. Let's get to it.

11:36Dorian Missick:A few football. Everybody good? You guys good? Yeah, we're good.

11:38Rich Eisen:I'm doing great. Jason Tatum's doing great. Did you turn your microphone off so you didn't step on the open, or are you just... Yeah, I also wanted to clear my throat real quick. Okay, good. Let me clear my throat. Hey. What are you laughing about? What are you laughing about? What's so funny? You know that's a song, right? I'm aware of it. It's a pop culture reference. Sometimes I can make those. I just never thought I'd hear you sing it. Everyone's talking. I sat next to Stuart Scott for seven years, sir. Do you think I picked up nothing? What else you got over there? Brothers don't watch, son.

12:13Dorian Missick:Everyone's talking about and trying to figure out the best player in this draft. I heard a lot of Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love is the best player in this draft. I heard that. Doze is going first. Uh-uh. The best player in this year's NFL draft is Sonny Stiles. Talk about it. What do you mean talk about it? I just added that as a button. Okay, so what's... Yeah, we established it. Okay. He's the best player in this year's draft.

12:44Rich Eisen:Okay. Wow. I think he's awesome. I think he's great. I think he's terrific. I think he could be the... But you can't. He's the best player in the draft. Oh, you mean like at the top of a board. Like Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 prospects, regardless of position, you put Sonny Stiles.

13:04Dorian Missick:Honestly, the Raiders should trade to two with the Jets and take Stiles

13:07Rich Eisen:because he's the best player in the draft. No, that's not going to happen. That's an overreaction to his outstanding combine workout. Outstanding. Superb. Soup to nuts. Awesome. And then the thing, again, that I learned about his humility after from an NFL Network colleague of mine, where told him, hey, great, great workout. And his answer was essentially, you think so? Like searching for affirmation because he's still, you know, somebody that is humble and looking for improvement in anything that he can do. Love all of it. Checked every box, but I'll just call this an overreaction. All right.

13:44Rich Eisen:So I don't wish to denigrate. I wish to celebrate.

13:48Dorian Missick:I'm celebrating him being the best player in the draft.

13:50Rich Eisen:I wish to congratulate him. I don't wish to hate. That's not my default.

13:55Dorian Missick:Yeah.

13:56Rich Eisen:All right. Even on people who secretly record me and put it on Instagram.

14:00Dorian Missick:That went viral. Okay, great. That was very nice. Beautiful moment.

14:03Rich Eisen:Isn't it? Had no idea.

14:05Dorian Missick:That's fine.

14:06Rich Eisen:Okay. What else you got?

14:07Dorian Missick:Give people a heads up next. Your answers might be different. Here's the deal. We had a trade. No, it would not. That's an overreaction. We are off the rails. You have been really sumped in the last five minutes. What else? We had a trade yesterday. We did. David Montgomery to the Texans. Yes. Breaking up Sonic and Knuckles. That's a bummer. They're going to the Super Bowl. Can't wait for Sonic 4. David Montgomery is going to have more touchdowns this year than Jameer gets. That's out of your mind. You've got to be out of your mind.

14:40Rich Eisen:You've got to be out of your mind. Both are healthy. Is that what you're saying? Both healthy. Yeah, man. You would hope. Yeah, man. Both healthy. You don't think that. Okay. Okay, here's the crazy thing. There's a lot of mouths to feed him. Remember he talked about Detroit, Rich. Let me get the name of this guy. A lot of mouths. So you want to talk about craziness and what Cooper, my youngest son, who you refer to as my middle son. I have a middle child, if you will. Hold on a minute. He tells me this. This is a true story. The fact that he knows absolutely everything. He tells me that the most picked up player in dynasty leagues yesterday is Sione Vaki, who is now second on the depth chart in Detroit.

15:32Rich Eisen:This is what he tells me. And I'm like, wait a minute. There's like a fantasy world in which players are picked up on March 2nd? If you're in a deep, deep dynasty, yeah, sure. This is what he shows me. He goes, picked up in like 20 ,000 leagues or something. Dialed in on sleep. I'm serious. It's crazy. You're telling me that let's just say the Lions believe in this young man. He's second on the depth chart. That doesn't mean Jameer Gibbs doesn't touch the ball, and I'm going double negative, over and over and over again there, and you still think, get out of here, man. He's going to have more touches than ever before.

16:15Rich Eisen:Certainly if they're paying him all that money that they're going to end up paying him.

16:18Dorian Missick:Do you want him for a long time or a good time? Because if you start giving him all those touches, you're going to wear down Jameer.

16:24Rich Eisen:I'm not saying there's not going to. Of course, by the way, I'm going double negative. I'm blaming you.

16:33Dorian Missick:I'm minored in English.

16:34Rich Eisen:You're going to have somebody backing him up. I understand. but okay, I've made my point. I've made my point. You're wrong and my youngest son is clearly online too much. One of those. To know about Dynasty League pickups.

16:51Dorian Missick:TJ, this is for you. Oh, baby. If the Cowboys trade for Max Crosby, they're going to win the NFC East. The NFC East, that's the

16:59Rich Eisen:floor. Oh, I think that is the floor. If the Cowboys trade Max Crosby, they're winning the NFC East. That is not an overreaction. That's the floor. You're right. That's the least we're going to win. I'm with you. I'm with you. You're going to win the NFC East and win a wild card game before getting unfortunately dispatched by a team that you can see coming. Where are you getting wild card? Division winners are playing wild card weekend, sir. As a matter of fact, three of them do. One seed? Not when you're the one seed. Oh, baby. Okay. Now we're talking. No, but the Cowboys trading for Max Crosby would be a great idea and would be a vast improvement on their defense and would 100 % equal wins to the point where I would make them a division favorite, even over the Eagles.

17:42Rich Eisen:And I understand that that is heresy to say.

17:46Dorian Missick:Delicious. Seriously. What else you got, Chris? Is Jerry talking about chicken? Here's the deal. I think it was squirrel. The QB carousel is coming up, guys. And I think, oh, man, two is going to end up being without a starting seat in the veteran QB musical chairs this year.

18:03Rich Eisen:I don't think that's an overreaction. I think he's going to have to go somewhere and prove it.

18:12Rich Eisen:Unless Atlanta's a spot. Waiting for Penix to get back. Give them that chance. See what they got. Maybe so. Yeah, I don't... Let's just put it this way. If you believe that Kevin Stefanski had a role in choosing players in the draft last year, And if you do believe the shot of Stefanski and Andrew Barry upon drafting Shador Sanders in a draft where everybody fist pumps and claps and gives an ovation like they just drafted a first ballot Hall of Famer every single draft pick. And instead they looked like they needed to hold up that morning's newspaper to prove proof of life. Dylan Gabriel got drafted before.

18:57Rich Eisen:And he's a mini to him. Right? Right. So if Stefanski thought I could do something with Gabriel, he could certainly think he could do something with Tua. But I'm kind of not surprised by your overreaction Monday. Subject matter, I'll call this not an overreaction and hope differently for Tua. What else you got over there?

19:19Dorian Missick:A couple NBA items, guys. I'm watching the Celtics and Bucs, obviously, last night, and it's absolutely, positively 100 % over for Giannis in Milwaukee. What did he say last night? He still wants to be there, right? Did you say that? Can this guy make up his mind? No. Loveless marriage. He is in a loveless marriage and doesn't want to end it for the kids. Who are the kids? His brothers. But it wouldn't end it for his brothers because they're going wherever he's going. They would have no jobs without him. You know how many people in the world could say that? I don't think this is an overreaction either.

19:54Rich Eisen:I hear you. I don't think this is an overreaction either. What else you got? You got one more?

19:59Dorian Missick:Yeah. Now, Lakers, I mean, come on. Nobody takes them seriously. Either Luka or J.J. Redick won't be with the Lakers next year.

20:06Rich Eisen:That is such. That is. You're really going with the flow on that.

20:10Dorian Missick:Body language. They don't speak. They do not like each other. There's no. That's your sense, huh? There is no relationship. If that's the case, then J.J.

20:18Rich Eisen:will be gone because Luka's not going anywhere. Luka just bought him a jacket. Yeah, exactly.

20:22Dorian Missick:What gives you body language? How do you go off of body language? How do you go off of that? I don't know. You just use your eyes. Okay. Watch people interact, and there's no chemistry. If you're right, then you're right.

20:33Rich Eisen:If you're wrong, overreaction. Thank you. How's that? For two cents right there. Reaction, proper reaction or not, TJ Jefferson. I got one more. Nobody wants to see the Boston Celtics win the championship this year.

20:46Dorian Missick:No one from outside of the New England area? Yeah, right. Yeah, absolutely.

20:50Rich Eisen:Thank you. I don't want to see that. Okay, very good. All right, that wraps up this edition of Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. Let's take a break. When we come back, Dorian Missick, The actor from 56 days on Prom Video joins us next.

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23:00Rich Eisen:Choose Rain-X Latitude wiper blades at your local O 'Reilly Auto Parts store or online at OReillyAuto.com. Dorian Misik is here on the Rich Eisen Show. We just showed a clip of 56 Days, which is streaming right now on Prime Video, released on February 18th. And you can check it out once we are done with this conversation with our guests here on the program. I just kind of referred to the Yankees because you're from New Jersey, correct? Yes. Okay.

23:32Brockman:But we cheer for New York teams.

23:33Rich Eisen:Okay. Well, you and I'm from Staten Island. Which is New Jersey of New York. Yes. It is that.

23:40Brockman:because you're are you from East Orange is that where you're from I was born in East Orange I pretty much grew up in Plainfield okay and then Brooklyn later on in my life okay but uh yeah

23:50Rich Eisen:okay Plainfield that that's that's right around where I grew up from right across from the Gothels Bridge right yeah well no we're off of Route 22 right that's it yeah that's pretty much

23:59Brockman:it so you're you're fans of the Yankees and who else well I'm a Knicks guy huge Knicks guy and

24:05Rich Eisen:Giants okay I guess you were Knicks guy because you mentioned your your your son who's in our green room right now. He's got his Brunson jersey on. Yes. However, his favorite player

24:15Brockman:is Steph Curry. Well, that makes sense, right? It does. I'm not mad at that. I think it's a great choice. Okay. Listen, I'm ingraining him. Okay. That's all we watch is Knicks. That's it, huh?

24:26Rich Eisen:Yeah. For him, that's basketball. So, I'm a little older than you, I think. So, I was born in 69. Okay, you got it. Okay, so who's your Knick growing up? Bernard King was mine. Okay.

24:38Brockman:Bernard King and then Ewing. Right. And then it all started. Yes. I'm there in the Ewing, Starks, Chris Childs, you know. Okay. Yeah. Mason. Anthony Mason. Yeah. Yeah. That era. That's it. You know, and later on, you know, my favorite team, though, was what was Canby, Sprewell, and Kirk Thomas coming off the bench. Like, we had a good squad then. That was like 99. Right. Yeah. That was actually my favorite team. It was just really most exciting.

25:02Rich Eisen:99 was the year that they made the title but lost the Spurs. Yeah. They made the title. They made the finals. The Spurs. Yeah. Yes, the Pacers in 94. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the Pacers was trying to get Pat. I mean, the toughest time other than when the Knicks completely sucked. Which is a lot of time. And also, which made me swear off the Knicks, too, was when Dolan watched Oakley get dragged out of the garden, and I swore off the team until— That was this close.

25:30Brockman:You were that close. He's a legend in the building. He should get all the respect. Correct. This should have been taken care of a lot faster than it was.

25:37Rich Eisen:Bingo. 100%. I'm like, I'm out. I'm done. Right. The guy who got me back in was Brunson. Brunson got me back in. Right. Because he plays with such a joy. He plays with such grit. He plays as a guy who's a self-made dude. You know, I understand. Right. He's a top, you know, prep star. And he does go to Villanova with all the Nova Knicks and whatever. And then he winds up in Dallas. I mean, we all know his story. But what he's done in New York, end of story. He's brought the excitement back.

26:05Brockman:Especially because, you know, he's the fourth quarter guy. Yeah. So he comes alive. I mean, he comes alive all game, but fourth quarter, it's like you can put the ball in his hand and you know you're in good shape.

26:13Rich Eisen:Except, you know, his Celtics are suddenly playing well all of a sudden.

26:17Brockman:I mean, with nobody. Don't give me – listen, you already know about New Yorkers and any Boston team. Yes, sir. I don't deal with them. I don't do it. I don't have that conversation. I don't want to do it. Careful. Sorry. Careful. You know, and listen, I was a Larry Bird fan growing up. You were. Gave him a pass. But I don't mess with the Celtics.

26:34Dorian Missick:He gave him a pass.

26:35Brockman:Mm-mm.

26:36Rich Eisen:I did not give him a pass. I hated his guts. Really? Oh, yeah. Top five hated Nick rivals in my entire life. Larry Bird. Oh. Isaiah Thomas. Oh.

26:47Brockman:My wife's from Detroit. We argue about this all the time. Really? All the time. Oh, I don't want to get involved. Oh, don't worry. I don't care. She likes cheaters.

26:56Dorian Missick:Whoa.

26:58Brockman:I'll tell it to her face.

27:00Rich Eisen:Okay. Lambeer. Lambeer. Well, Lambeer was just hated by everybody. This is true. Zeke, I just, I hated him. And then when he got in charge of the next two, I'm like, what are we doing?

27:10Brockman:That was a conspiracy, man. I really did. I was like, he's an actual Marvel villain. He was like, I hate this team so much. He was implanted. He was like, I'm going to wait until I get an opportunity to get there and then destroy the whole franchise. Right. Exactly. Yeah, I don't like it.

27:25Rich Eisen:Were you in the Manchurian candidate? I was. Yeah, so you understand. Yeah. He was the Manchurian front office. I never made that connection. Yeah. It was exactly true. Damn straight. Like, you would understand since you were in that movie. He's been programmed. Exactly. He was programmed. He's stuck in New York just to blow him up. Oh, my God. Which he damn near did, too, anyway. Yeah. At any rate. So I hated him. Reggie Miller.

27:46Brockman:Oh, yeah.

27:48Rich Eisen:Don't you change. No, no, no, no, no, no.

27:50Brockman:Here's the thing. I did not give Reggie Miller a pass. I still don't give Reggie Miller a pass. And I feel like I need. Reggie Miller has accomplished so much since then that I should let it go. Yeah. And I'm working on my forgiveness. Yes. But I still just know. I'm not and then what's my man on the Pacers who try to double it up this year Halliburton Halliburton man listen but where he went he did yeah yeah yeah he did a little too early yeah he was a premature neck

28:16Rich Eisen:yeah but he's a young kid man that's what they all do I know but he eventually got us though he did yeah he just delayed it yeah he delayed the actual completion of the

28:24Brockman:mission and you know and Reggie was celebrating too much and I was like oh man I remember why I don't like your ass right I don't like you I was like, just about to start liking Reggie Miller. And then he's celebrating, high-fiving Halliburton and all that. And I was like, you know what? Both of y 'all can go somewhere. Yeah. I'm hot. Yeah. Another one. Florida? I hate it.

28:47Rich Eisen:It's the same difference, bro. You said Florida. I hated Pippen because I gave Jordan a pass. Why'd you give Jordan a pass and not Pippen? Because he was just, because I had to hate one of the Bulls. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, who am I also going to hit Buda Edwards from his Piston days? Well, honestly, what am I going to get on Hodges? Pippen, I just couldn't stand the Bulls. But Jordan, how do you not give him a pass?

29:17Brockman:I'm less of a fan of post-basketball Pippen. While he was playing, I'll be honest with you, it was just like he was robbing to Jordan's back.

29:29Rich Eisen:Which is why I always dreamed that he was talentless and Jordan was just dragging him along. Right. And obviously I was wrong. You found out he actually could play. Yes, I did. He might have been a star, a bigger star had he not been. I got it. I hear you. Who else did I hate? Any Celtic. McHale. Name them all. I hated McHale. Oh, ML Carr with his tie waving. Hated Chris Ford. Hated all those guys. You know what I did like?

30:00Brockman:What's my guy's name, man? Current or former? No, former. During the era of Burr. Was it Parrish? Parrish. I was all right with it. Chief? Yeah, I was all right with the Chief, man. I like to stop.

30:11Rich Eisen:Because he said nothing.

30:12Brockman:Yeah. And I preferred that. He said nothing. I preferred that. It's like, you know, just play the game, man. Get out of here. You know, listen, as a New Yorker, we talk a lot. As a New Yorker, New Jersey, we talk a lot of trash. Yes. You know what I'm saying? But that's for us. That's what we do. Yeah. The rest of y 'all, shut your mouth.

30:25Rich Eisen:Take the L. Be quiet. Then I found out the reason why Parrish said nothing is he was chill.

30:30Dorian Missick:Yeah.

30:30Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. Him and Bill Walton were kicking in. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The word on the street.

30:37Brockman:So why'd you choose Yanks over Mets? Well, actually, you know what? It's only because of my dad. I actually was a Mets fan. You know, Darryl Strawberry, Dr. K. I was very amazing. 86. Yeah, 86. And as a kid.

30:51Rich Eisen:In between the Yankees championship. Right. Okay.

30:53Brockman:So, yeah, very big into it as a kid. When I started playing baseball, people used to say I looked like Darryl Strawberry. So I immediately went towards the Mets. But I needed a rivalry in my house. Okay. And my dad was a Mets fan. So I was like, I got to switch back to the Yankees because I need somebody to cheer against.

31:10Rich Eisen:Oh, I thought your dad made you a Yankee fan because he was a Yankee fan.

31:13Brockman:No, no, no, no, no. He was a Mets guy. I don't know where he picked up this Mets. Where's he from? He's from Queens? Oh, the Hamas. and they actually, they gravitate towards Miami teams. Sure. So I don't know where this Mets thing came from. Okay. But, you know, with the Dr. K era and all of that, you know, you know, Howard Johnson, we had such a great squad. Yes. It was, it was, it was an exciting time. Yes, it was. And so I was like, you know what, dad, I need to cheer against you. Are you lefty? No. You're a right-handed strawberry. Right-handed strawberry. Okay. But I stole his batting stance and everything.

31:44Brockman:I bet you did. Yeah. Okay. So. Except I strike out. When did you have? they called me miss it missic that was my name that's not cool nah that's that's got zero chill that's not good it wasn't good at all when did you start acting when did that happen for you right around the miss it missic era when i realized i wasn't gonna be able to play baseball professionally yeah no i was like literally around that time like 88 what was your first gig my first gig was a coca-cola commercial uh but my very first thing that i think most people saw was an episode of In the Heat of the Night. Okay. Which was interesting.

32:19Brockman:I played a young fisherman. Okay. Yeah. Was that, was it Carol O 'Connor? Carol O 'Connor, yes.

32:24Rich Eisen:Damn, so you were working with Archie Bunker, huh? Yeah, I know, right?

32:28Brockman:Okay. And I was so surprised to find out how nice of a guy he was. You thought he, because he was so damn good at his job. There was no way I was talking to that guy. For like two days, I just completely avoided him. He was in the makeup trailer. I didn't even look at him. Come on. I was scared. I was like, yo, he's a racist. He's like, all these things that I'm thinking, right?

32:45Rich Eisen:wow and then it turned out to be a sweetheart oh man ray most incredible guy that taught you about acting like there right it did how good people can be and believable yeah yeah how much different

32:55Brockman:they can be than their character what's the thing you get the most when people stop you or see you or anything like that oh man uh you know what right now it's 56 days okay it's it's insane it's like a breakout hit like everywhere i go it's like you know that's cool it's it's it's really crazy i get that a lot but prior to that i probably got i mean the last thing i was on that people really loved was the show for life that did the prison drama right ABC that character because I got to fight 50 cent and so you know there are people who are on the fence they either want me to knock him out or they were glad he knocked me out okay what it what was a scene like fighting 50 cent for you it was cool you know except he actually punched me in my face what yeah what's let me know I got a nice jaw my jaw is good so you said 50 cent got his two cents Yeah, he did.

33:41Brockman:Okay. He did. Left you 48 cents change? You know what I mean? And it took everything in me because I'm the kind of guy. You hit me, I'm hitting you back. It took everything in me not to hit him back because, first of all, he's my boss. Okay. And then secondly, he's pretty well respected in the streets and I'm just an actor. Okay. So he really hit you? He hit me. I mean, it was an accident. Okay. But it immediately sparked my fight or flight instinct. So he punched me in the jaw and I was like, yo, I got to go easy. I got to go easy. I don't want to knock this dude out or I don't want to hit him and he doesn't go down because then what do you do?

34:14Brockman:You sure you didn't say something before that take about his first pitch?

34:18Rich Eisen:No. Ceremonial first pitch? It's amazing he connected on anything. Right. I was really close. He was over the top of me, man. Yeah. So this show that you just mentioned, a big hit, obviously 56 days. How did you hear about it? What do you like about it?

34:35Brockman:What do you think makes it work so well? Well, it's based on a book by Katherine Ryan Howard. and it was one of those things where my agent sent me the book. Was it the book? No, he sent me the script and then he was like, you know, read the book afterwards and then we set you up in a meeting with these guys about the show. And I read the book kind of quickly because it's a quick page turner and I was like, all right, I just thought it was, it took place in Ireland and I was like, okay, so where do I fit in in this story? And then, you know, then I realized they were going to modernize it and change some things.

35:06Brockman:Yes. And so then, you know, I read it and met with the creatives and just was like, let's do this. It was pretty cut and dry for me. The character's great. I couldn't wait to get involved with him. Right.

35:17Rich Eisen:So it's great to have great source material, great writing, great acting. It doesn't stink, I'm sure, to have Dove Cameron in it as well. She's got quite the fan base for a long time.

35:26Brockman:And here's the thing. Because I'm the age that I'm at, I don't hang around younger people like that. I completely missed the Dove Cameron of it all. I knew Schmigadoon. That was it. And I liked her. Right. I like the young lady from Schmigadoon, but that was it. I had no earthly idea until I said yes to the project. And then I started seeing people getting really excited. I'm getting these new followers on Instagram that are like, why are these little white girls following me? You know what I do? And then I realized, oh, it's the Dove Cameron effect. Yeah. So it's kind of cool to be in this world.

36:01Rich Eisen:I got a 17-year-old at home who knows exactly who Dove Cameron is. Yeah. The fact that I'm talking to someone who's Dove Cameron adjacent is going to be big points for dad. I love it. I'll take it.

36:11Brockman:You know, I'm really excited for her and Evan because this is a great time in their career, like to watch this moment when they go from being like child stars, essentially, to being accepted into this adult world and in such great roles. It's like a great moment to witness. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

36:25Rich Eisen:Yeah, it's exciting. That's great. All right. So what do you think the next season is going to end up?

36:33Brockman:You know what? I'm still hopeful. I'm still hopeful. You know we're in third place right now? And Brunson is healthy. Yeah. As is Cat.

36:42Rich Eisen:Those are good things. Let me put it this way then. The teams that you root for, Knicks, Giants, right? You're not a Jet fan. No. Okay. Sorry. It's okay. Knicks, Giants, Yankees. Which one do you think is going to give you a title first?

36:58Brockman:I think, right? Oof. It's Knicks or the Yankees, I think. No, you got to give me one. Okay, Knicks. I say Knicks. Yeah.

37:09Rich Eisen:What are you shaking your head for over there?

37:11Dorian Missick:You disagree. Because it's been 60 years. So what? That means they're due. Yeah, so we're due, man. No statistical evidence for due.

37:19Rich Eisen:There's no statistical. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. The Yankees and the Knicks seem to keep running it back. You know what I mean? Right. Like, same as before. You know? Although the Knicks did switch it up last year with Bridges. Yeah. and Cat, who I love, they switched their coach. Who I've grown to love, yes. Right? They switched their coach, so they're doing it differently.

37:41Brockman:Yankees are just like, yeah, let's just... Let's try this thing again. Let's try it again. Maybe they're making some sort of small changes, and I don't know what those changes are, but yeah, it does look like they're like, well, let's just hope this works again.

37:52Rich Eisen:I say to my son, one son is a Dove Cameron fan, another one is an Aaron Judge fan. Oh, really? Two completely different levels of interest. Same family, same womb, right? Wow. And so to my Yankee fan son, I'm like, let's get somebody. Like, look at the Blue Jays. They got people who put the bat on the ball. And so there's somebody for like Judge or Stanton or Bellinger to knock in.

38:16Brockman:They just, I don't know, man. You know, listen, man, New York, it's hard to coach and manage a New York team. That's correct. Because the fans will eat you alive and you lose momentum. And I do think that they think about that. And there is a thought process of like, well, it's not completely broken. It's not like the Knicks of the past where it's like, listen, we need a complete overhaul over here. And no one's coming here either. Right. So we're like right at the precipice. Like something can happen. And so I think there's a hesitancy to want to make any major overhauls because then you get eaten alive and people lose jobs that way.

38:52Rich Eisen:It's a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for coming here and come back anytime. Hey, man. Let's chop it up. Right back at you. Dorian Missick on 56 Days, streaming right now on Prime Video. He's at Dorian Missick on Instagram. If you already don't follow him, thanks to Dove Cameron. Throw him a follow. Right here on The Rich Eisen Show. We're back with more in a moment. All right.

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41:45Dorian Missick:Yeah, we're both following Fernando. Say hi. Did you guys connect? I don't know how LinkedIn works. Did he connect you with them? It's just like you can connect with some people or you can just follow them. Yeah, you can't really connect. Fernando, we're going to let you connect.

41:58Rich Eisen:It's like the difference between the pond and the pool. Yeah, that's right. A pond is good for you. You got a pond, a pool. How many times do I say something, just leave it trailing, and then he just comes in and hammered it? All of the time.

42:09Dorian Missick:Well, what am I supposed to know that you think everyone's out there is going to know what you're talking about? Yeah, I would think if you're a fan of our show, you get all the references. I work on the show and I'll get all your references. So that, I don't know if that's true.

42:24Rich Eisen:Yeah, sure. Why not? Remember before? Remember when? Sounds like that. That was awesome. Remember the part of the show about an hour ago where I gave my top five list of teams that should overpay for Max Crosby? And I mentioned the Bengals is the one more. Okay. Uh-oh. Because I'm like, what better way would it show that, hey, Joe Burrow, we hear you. We know you need some help on that defensive side of the ball and don't be so upset with us and everything's going to turn out all right.

43:00Dorian Missick:It's going to be great, Joe.

43:01Rich Eisen:And then you're like, well, they got Trey Hendrickson. Yeah. Well, guess who's not getting tagged?

43:10Rich Eisen:He's free agent. So let's see what happens. Bengals are letting a pass rusher of his caliber walk, which doesn't, you know. Listen, everything that happens between now and the beginning of the season, The season is a piece of the puzzle, right? It's like you're looking for that one-armed man. Sometimes you find a big puzzle piece, you drop the phone and let the U.S. Marshals come find you, right? It's just one big puzzle piece or small puzzle piece, but it's all a puzzle that you're putting together. Because right now it's like, what are they telling Joe Burrow? by letting Trey Hendrickson at least explore the free agent market.

44:03Rich Eisen:Just, we are not willing to pay you, let me get this right, $24.4 million. We're not going to do it. It's just not going to happen. We could franchise tag you,$24 million. What was the number that they agreed to last year? Could you look that up? Yeah, hold on. I think it was less than that. Was it$20 million? They gave him$20 million to come one more season and rush the pass? Yeah, he had a one-year$30 million. Okay. He had$30 million. So they're not even willing to give him$6 million less than that. So maybe they know something we don't. We'll find out what Hendrickson does do. By the way, if you think about last year, we had Von Miller on an hour or two.

44:49Rich Eisen:He's like, I had a choice between the Seahawks and the Commanders. I chose the commanders because we were close to the Super Bowl. I had no idea Seattle was going to win it. Go there and win it. Tank Lawrence goes there instead. Wins the Super Bowl. Not bad. Could Trey Hendrickson be that guy? You want to add somebody? Like if the Bears, for instance, don't land a big fish for a pass rush, like, say, Crosby, if he is available and they go get him, or they don't, would Trey Hendrickson be that guy? Let's see what Trey Hendrickson does. I mean, he did miss 10 games last year. I understand. And the Bengals are like, but still, the image of your quarterback going on the podium a couple times towards the end of the season last year and looking miserable and basically talking like existentially about life and what makes you happy and what doesn't make you happy and whether you're happy.

45:47Rich Eisen:and I do like still playing, but, you know, I mean, sometimes, you know, life, blah, blah, blah. He was going through it. Okay, and everyone's just like, what does he mean? Have the Bengals broken him? And, you know, all the information men and women are like, well, it's just as imagine he got hurt again and then the season's down the tubes and all that stuff that you don't franchise tag Trey Hendrickson at the moment this snapshot in time. Not good. but let's see what they do in free agency let's see what they do in the draft let's see what they do maybe late if somebody is available you can pluck that person from other somebody else's team somebody maybe von miller is a choice if von does want to still play hey go to cincinnati play one more time or two i don't know but i would be on the phone explaining to joe what what's up this the plan wouldn't you but i'm a communicator you know that's what you do i don't leave you guys guessing what's up i don't think don't answer that i mean except for like finishing your jokes

46:57Dorian Missick:sometimes oh my god that's what's up i don't think this move is shocking and i think it's a clear you know message to joe burrow it's not but you what's going on even you said he did he missed

47:08Rich Eisen:10 games last year he did he also had 35 sacks the two seasons before i got it but it's a now business. It's what are you going to do for me now? Am I really paying you$24 million or could we pay that to somebody younger who's not going to miss 10 games? Like the guy they drafted who had three sacks? Oh boy. Got to do better at that too. Got a point there, yeah. Got to do better at that too. But that's the news. Got one more hour to go for tags and things of that nature. So we got that going for us, which is nice. Thanks for taking in this Tuesday edition of the Rich Eisen Show. We're back with you here on Disney Plus and ESPN and ESPN Radio on Wednesday.

47:51Brockman:Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

48:28Dorian Missick:We'll be right back.