Hour 3: PGA Tour’s Wyndham Clark Talks Broncos & Oregon Ducks, plus Comedian Sam Morril In-Studio

24 Aug 2026 · 47 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show mixes golf, NFL, and NBA comedy talk. Main segments: Wyndham Clark’s recent major wins and mental approach; Denver Broncos preseason outlook and a “win-loss game” prediction; Oregon Ducks fandom banter; then comedian Sam Morril’s Knicks playoff run stories and NBA offseason takes.

Guest backgrounds

Wyndham Clark is a PGA Tour player who won the BMW Championship and the U.S. Open, also winning the Byron Nelson Classic. Sam Morril is an in-studio comedian who discusses his Knicks fandom and touring.

Key claims

Clark credits a swing change with coach Pat, confidence/momentum, and off-course stability (girlfriend, sports psychologists, caddy) for improved weekend performance. He says if the Broncos are around 500 after a brutal first stretch, winning 10 games could mean a Super Bowl. He predicts an 11-6 Broncos record.

Notable examples

Clark’s Shinnecock practice round leading into Byron Nelson; his Open moment when he learned his dad was watching after the final putt. Morril recounts Knicks series moments (OG Anunoby, Jalen Brunson “closer” scoring) and his “Nixon” superstition during playoff runs.

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Welcoming Wyndham Clark

0:33 to 1:00

Rich welcomes Wyndham Clark and discusses his recent golf successes.

“You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist.”

Welcoming Wyndham Clark

1:29 to 2:50

Rich welcomes Wyndham Clark and discusses his recent golf successes.

“The business we are in is a performance-based business.”

Wyndham's Journey to Success

2:50 to 6:06

Wyndham shares the changes in his game and mental approach leading to success.

“Ever since we had dinner together, I played some good golf.”

Handling Fan Reactions

6:06 to 10:06

Wyndham discusses how he copes with fan reactions and criticism.

“And again, in all seriousness, that night where we were having dinner together There were the group of guys that I was hanging out with who you also know.”

Broncos Season Outlook

10:06 to 11:18

Wyndham shares his thoughts on the Denver Broncos' preseason performance.

“darth you know spoiler alert kind of came back around you know what i'm saying to the yeah exactly to the good side if you will to the force use the force wyndham clark use the force as you have All right.”

Win-Loss Game for Broncos

11:18 to 14:00

Rich and Wyndham play the win-loss game predicting the Broncos' season.

“And so I'm looking at here, man, you were like four when Elway helicoptered.”

Broncos Season Predictions

14:00 to 16:00

Wyndham Clark discusses the upcoming NFL season and predicts the Broncos' performance.

“The Rams, I think, are the favorite to win the Super Bowl on the other side.”

Wyndham Clark on Oregon Ducks

16:00 to 18:34

Discussion about college football and the Oregon Ducks, featuring humorous exchanges.

“11-6 makes the playoffs, and then I think because of that schedule, I think we win the whole thing.”

Success and Trophies

18:34 to 19:30

Reflections on Wyndham Clark's recent golf achievements and tournament successes.

Success and Trophies

19:32 to 19:48

Reflections on Wyndham Clark's recent golf achievements and tournament successes.

“and that's overcoming high interest credit card debt.”
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Comedian Sam Morril Joins the Show

19:56 to 22:24

Introduction of comedian Sam Morril and discussion about Knicks fan culture.

“We'll take your calls and we'll hit the calls as soon as we're done with our friend Sam Murill.”

Knicks Playoff Experience

22:24 to 28:00

Sam Morril shares his experiences and thoughts on the Knicks' playoff journey.

“We were down like how much we were down?”

Knicks' Future and Player Dynamics

28:00 to 31:18

Discussion on the Knicks' recent performance and key players' impacts.

“And the Knicks, you know, would pull one rabbit out of a hat after another.”

The Emotional Rollercoaster of Knicks Fans

31:19 to 36:50

Exploration of the emotional experiences tied to being a Knicks fan and their playoff journey.

“I mean, losing Paul George is a, is a good move for them.”

Giannis and the Knicks' Future Aspirations

36:51 to 39:28

A conversation about potential acquisitions and the Knicks' current roster strengths.

“SamMurrell.com for dates and tickets on all of that.”

Giannis and the Knicks' Future Aspirations

42:04 to 42:25

A conversation about potential acquisitions and the Knicks' current roster strengths.

NFL Trade News Breakdown

42:29 to 44:06

Discussion on the Patriots trading Kayshawn Booty to the Texans, analyzing the implications.

“Guys, according to the Ringer and Netflix Sports' and most importantly, our friend Tom Pellicero, the Patriots are sending Kayshawn Booty to the Houston Texans for safety Jalen Reed and a future draft pick.”

Cleveland Browns Quarterback Concerns

44:07 to 46:39

A caller's perspective on Deshaun Watson's performance and health, raising critical questions about the Browns.

“In case you have booty lit them up the last couple years.”
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1:00Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. The business we are in is a performance-based business. This is the Rich Eisen Show. And that same fan base, they cheered when I got hurt. The Rich Eisen Show. It's a disrespectful thing. Earlier on the show, ESPN NFL analyst Marcus Spears.

1:45Senior writer for the MMQB, Albert Breer. Coming up, BMW championship winner Wyndham Clark. Comedian Sam Murrell. and now it's Rich Eisen.

2:00Rich Eisen:Hour number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Sam Murrell, the comedian, is in our green room. We'll bring him out in about 20 minutes time. We've been chopping up this whole Cleveland Browns quarterback drama for the last two hours. Our YouTube channel is there if you missed it. Our Disney Plus page is there if you missed it. Our podcast that's available wherever you go. Podcast is there if you missed it. And 844-204-RICH is there. the number for you to dial on all of that front. But our guest to kick off our number three is somebody who I'm really happy for. What a last few months that this man has had.

2:38Rich Eisen:And it's time to chop it up with the man who just took down the BMW championship. He's also your United States Open champion. That was after he took down the Byron Nelson Classic as well. Wyndham Clark is here on the Rich Isle Show. All right. How are you, brother? Good to see you again. How's it going? Yeah, good to see you. Ever since we had dinner together, I played some good golf. Well, Wyndham, that's part of the reason why we're chatting right now. It's not just your success because your success is my success is the way I view it. Because, you know, and I'm happy to bring up the fact if you need anybody's coming up and say, what's gotten into you, Wyndham Clark?

3:13Rich Eisen:It's the fact that you watched me win Skins Cold Hard Cash on Long Island back in May. Correct. Was this inspiring as I think it is? So inspiring. The$260 you have right there really said, wow, I got to be like Rich Eisen and go win some tournaments. That's what it was. And then you played. Then you went and you practiced at Shinnecock just two days later. Correct, Wyndham? Yeah. That trip. The whole reason for that trip was to, other than seeing you, was actually to get a practice round in at Shinnecock. And then the next week was the Byron Nelson. And we won. And it's been great golf since then.

3:53Rich Eisen:Well, I guess the two words are you're welcome. You know what I mean? Like you're welcome. These things have happened since we got to share the taste of championship money. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the way it works. Correct, Wyndham? Yes, 100%. I actually, I haven't said in any interview I should have done it, but thank you, Rich Eisen, for the start of my great play. Yeah, drop that, drop that, you know, next week. Drop it next week. Drop it at the president's cup. Drop it everywhere you go. OK, then if I drop it anywhere I go, my bad play, I'll have to also say this. Then there's four words I have for you.

4:34Rich Eisen:New new phone. Who dis? That'll be I love it. But things things have seemingly been awesome for you, Wyndham. So congratulations on that. And other than, you know, watching me succeed. what do you think has changed for you that's worked? Windham. Honestly, my swing's gotten into an amazing spot, and I'd say the difference between kind of 24 and 25, I just wasn't hitting it very good, and I made a great change with the swing coach, Pat. And since then, I've really started hitting it better. And then that specific week at the Byron, my iron game felt good. My putting had been good, but I hadn't hit the driver good.

5:18And that week I hit a ton of fairways and ended up winning. And then that kind of propelled my confidence going into the rest of the season and then show up to Shinnecock. And I did a lot of great stuff for three days and then had a tough Sunday, but still got the champ, you know, still won. And then I just kind of kept it going. And, yeah, my confidence is sky high. And it's amazing what momentum can do in golf.

5:42Rich Eisen:Yeah, man, I love that moment at the Open where your dad was there. You didn't know, right? You had no idea that your dad had shown up for that? Yeah, everyone asked, like, you must have known. And I was like, no, my dad hadn't been to many tournaments, and he didn't want to jinx anything. And my agent and girlfriend and sports psychologists and friends, everyone kind of hid him from me. So I didn't know until I hit that last putt and saw him when I was walking off the green. And again, in all seriousness, that night where we were having dinner together There were the group of guys that I was hanging out with who you also know.

6:16Rich Eisen:And, you know, I guess we should shout out Ben Silverman because he'd be really pissed if we didn't do that right now, who put us all together that night. That, you know, you were really cool and sharing with everybody what your journey was like, you know, over the last few months and how, you know, you've been hearing it from golf fans and you're kind of letting it go in one ear out the other and going to and, you know, continuing to move along. is there anything that you can share with the audience here about what you have worked on you just mentioned your whole group of people girlfriend and sports psychologist your caddy like what you have worked on on that front yeah i mean outside of the the physical um you know mentally it's amazing what happens when you know you're everything off the course is taken care of you know i'm uh very happy i have an amazing amazing girlfriend that's been by my side mentally have been working on a lot of things, kind of limited the distractions, you know, and then it's amazing when you have everything taken care of off the course, then when you're on the course, all you can really do is focus on golf and it makes it really easy.

7:27And then you go week to week and you're fine tuning things and, you know, the next thing you know, you're in contention and you might not win, but you're like, okay, I'm so close. And then, And then you break through and win. And then as you continue to play, you start building off that momentum. And what's fun is the more opportunities you give yourself to win, you get comfortable and more and more comfortable in that position. And it's not surprising guys like Rory and Scotty usually win when they are in contention on the weekend because they get used to it and they love it. And I'm starting to learn how to do that and starting to feel more comfortable.

8:05Rich Eisen:So it's a comfort thing, huh? That's basically what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, it's honestly, you know, I wasn't as focused yesterday as I had been the first three days. But, you know, in my past, I've had good Thursdays and Fridays. I just, you know, maybe didn't take care of it on the weekend. And Saturday, I just got really into a groove and separated myself from the field. And then Sunday didn't have my best, but I just stayed patient. And in years past, you know, I might have lost my cool or gotten impatient on a Sunday and, you know, would have turned that into maybe a second, third or fourth place finish.

8:42And instead, I just stayed patient and waited and waited and said, you know what, I'm going to make, you know, I can't miss every putt. I'm going to make a birdie. And, you know, then it came in bunches at the end.

8:52Rich Eisen:Not just to mix things up and then we'll get to some football in a way that you kind of wouldn't mind talking about it. you know deshaun watson getting booed and he got really upset about it and he you know he really went at the people who were booing him now that's a different story he was being booed or cheered by some people when he got hurt um how do you handle all of that when you're hearing that sort of stuff from fans yeah i mean i'm not gonna lie it sucks you know i want to be cheered for um i would prefer that it's it's a lot nicer and makes you feel better but with that being said I played other sports and basketball being one of my other best sports I loved an away gym I loved silencing the crowd and you know and I figured I can win the crowd over being humble and just keep my head down and smiling and then when you win they go okay well you know maybe we should start rooting for this guy and then I said this recently and a buddy of mine just said this and it was funny he's like hey you know what keep your head up it's all right if they don't root for you just remember darth vader had more fun and i was like all right i guess that's one way to look at it and so i i just kind of jokingly have kept that in my mind and said you know what regardless i'm just going to do what i do and hopefully the fans start rooting for me yeah and as at the end of the day darth you know spoiler alert kind of came back around you know what i'm saying to the yeah exactly to the good side if you will to the force use the force wyndham clark use the force as you have All right.

10:21Rich Eisen:Let's talk about your Broncos a little bit here. They're looking really good so far in the preseason. I know it's preseason, but this is the real deal. It seems like. Yeah, I mean, the big asterisk is obviously Bo, just if he's healthy. If Bo's healthy, I think we could be really good. Obviously, last year we blew away everybody with how good we were. And, you know, it was unfortunate Bo got hurt. But what I will say is our schedule is tough. I mean, our first six, seven games are brutal. And if we're right around 500 through those games, I feel confident. And I've said this to people. If we win 10 games, I think we win the Super Bowl.

11:01Just because, I mean, you look at that schedule right there. So many of our tough games are away, and they're teams that are favored to win the Super Bowl or have been great teams in the last couple of years. So it's going to be tough, but I'm excited with the addition to Waddle and some of the guys we picked up on defense.

11:17Rich Eisen:Now, you're a Denver native, correct? Born, raised, correct? Yes, raised, yeah. Right. And so I'm looking at here, man, you were like four when Elway helicoptered. But, you know, when Manning won it with Von Miller, you were just out of college, pretty much, when you were at that age, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah. I mean, the year before was devastated. The Seahawks just shut us up. And then the next year, Von Miller, I think, single-handedly put Newton in retirement. it pretty you're not you're kind of not wrong about that i mean yada yada yada the few other things happen uh did you hear this soundbite from bo nicks after he finished up this weekend probably you didn't because you were getting ready here play it for me my own thing what do you say here you go here to hit it it was um just very smooth very easy to get back out there and go and um honestly the other guy 10 guys in the huddle made it pretty easy for me as well and just going out there and doing my job and treating it like a practice rep and um the most difficult part was you know not preparing a whole lot for a preseason game because of the time constraints and you know you only get a day or so and um so that was the toughest part is just getting my eyes in the right spot and that was the that was the mental challenge but I thought physically it was it was pretty easy physically pretty easy Wyndham what do you think that's what you're saying right I love it yeah I mean like I said if he's he's been getting some uh I guess maybe similar to me He's not getting any love.

12:45And last year he had a similar stat season as Patrick Mahomes and Josh, or actually Justin Herbert. I've seen some of those stats and people say those guys are MVPs or the best up and coming. And he's kind of doing the same numbers and hasn't been getting the love. So I expect both. He's healthy to have a great year.

13:03Rich Eisen:All right. We, we play something on this show called the win loss game where we put the schedule of somebody's favorite team up on the screen. You go week by week by week. and then with win-loss and we find out what you think their final record is. I'd like to do that with you at the Denver Broncos right now, if you don't mind, Wyndham Clark. I'll be as unbiased as possible. Let's do it. Let's put the schedule up. Let's give some music to Wyndham Clark. Ladies and gentlemen, we're playing the win-loss game for the Denver Broncos with the recent BMW Championship champion and U.S. Open champion, Wyndham Clark.

13:32Rich Eisen:First up, what happens, Wyndham, when the Monday night game on ESPN, visiting Kansas City, what happens? Win-loss. You know, it obviously depends on Mahomes, but he's coming off an injury. That's a win for the Broncos. That's 1-0. Now, home for the Jaguars. That's also a win at home. Jaguars got us last time, but I think we'll make adjustments. All right. Now, the Rams visit on Sunday night football. I'm going to go with an L. The Rams, I think, are the favorite to win the Super Bowl on the other side. And, yeah, that might be an L. 2-1 visiting San Francisco. oh that's tough i mean if san francisco stays healthy i'm a big c-mac fan i'm gonna go with a win that's three and one now visiting the chargers that's an l chargers gonna be good this year three and two sunday thursday night kickoff wow week six now the seahawks visit that might be uh an l2 that's gonna be tough that's what you said the schedule's tough to start now three and three visiting the cardinals uh i'm gonna go with the win i have the cardinals I bet them on the under for the season.

14:38So we definitely need to win.

14:39Rich Eisen:Let's be careful, certainly, if somebody lives in the state of Arizona normally. All right, now 4-3. Home for the Chiefs. Do you sweep them? I think we sweep them. We're turning the tie. We didn't beat them for about six years, and I think we're going to turn the tie. 5-3 at the Panthers. Another win. 6-3, home for the Raiders. Another win. 7-3, day after Thanksgiving at Pittsburgh. I think we might stub our toe. That's a lot. 7-4, home for the Dolphins. Definitely a win. We're back. 5-4 at the Jets. As much as I love Darren Mugi, his brother's my agent, and I think he's going to do great things at the Jets, we're going to beat him.

15:19Rich Eisen:Yeah, the personal, we've got to put this aside, man. This is win-loss game stuff. 9-4 at the Raiders. Yeah, I think we got the Raiders. 10-4, Christmas, home for the Bills. Gosh, Josh Allen's too tough to beat twice. I think we lose that game. Okay. At the Patriots. We got vengeance for last year, and Bo's going to be healthy. That's a win. All right. 11 wins now. Home for the Chargers. Home for the Chargers. It depends on what that game means. I don't think it'll mean a lot if you're 11 at 5. Yeah. I'm going to go a loss. Really? Oh, wow. Okay. 11 and 6. Wyndham Clark says he's going to be unbiased.

15:59Rich Eisen:There you go. Win-loss game for his Denver Broncos. 11 and 6. We'll see how they do. 11-6 makes the playoffs, and then I think because of that schedule, I think we win the whole thing. Okay, there you go. Before I let you go, Wyndham, you're an Oregon Duck. So my friend TJ Jefferson is a diehard Penn State fan and Florida State fan, but we had Dan Lanning on the program the other day. And you mentioned, Dan, about the shoes, right? Yeah, Oregon's known to have their own supply. Right, so he asked for some Ducks shoes. Lanning said, if I give them to you, you need to kick out one of your teams and root for us instead.

16:38Rich Eisen:Sure enough, that's the old flags behind TJ. He's now an Oregon Duck fan because he provided the shoes. The shoes are right behind you, right, TJ? They are. They are. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. How can you have that many teams? Okay, Wyndham. I like sports, Wyndham. You're on to it. We love Wyndham Club. We're on to it, Wyndham. We love it. That seems like a front runner right there. No. Oh, easy, Wyndham, easy. Look, most of these are college teams, Wyndham. No, no, no, no. A lot of different colleges. The Cowboys are his team. But do you want to hold the shoes up there for Wyndham? Do you accept him as a Duck fan because he's now a Duck fan because of these shoes have been delivered by Dan Lanning, man of his word?

17:21Rich Eisen:Wyndham, do you accept him? Well, the real question would be when the Ducks play one of his teams and see who he roots for. TJ, how do you answer that question to Wyndham? I mean, you know, I'm a loyal person. And, you know, me and Coach Lanning and I, we like to think that we build a bond. But for me, just to turn my back on everything I've always believed in. Now that you got the shoes? Now that you got the shoes? I didn't say I would not, like, root for Oregon. I did not say I would not take a, you know, a little bit of an interest in what they're doing. But you want me just to give up everything?

17:54Rich Eisen:Wyndham? Well, what if Florida State or Duke, you know, a couple teams you like, are only eight and four and the Ducks come in and play them and we're undefeated? Oh, if Duke football is playing the Ducks, I'm the quack. There he goes. Okay, there we go. That's what I'm looking for. He's accepted. He's accepted. All right, Wyndham, it's so great to run into you as I did back in the spring and then to see what you've done since we connected. I am taking credit with anybody that will listen and I am excited for you and can't wait to see what you do from here on out awesome thank you guys appreciate you having me on that's Wyndham Clark everybody don't get him awesome to watch awesome to watch can't wait to see what he does next week as well I like that you're taking full credit why wouldn't I excuse me Skins money doesn't just wind up in an envelope by itself one must hurt it and ever since this moment it's kind of crazy he's been on the roll days later he's basically at shinnecock i know then seven days later wins at the byron nelson and then a month later wins at shinnecock and now here he is the day after winning the bmw championship how many more trophies can a man hold well there's one more left that's right so that one it all started he takes that He's fired by my success.

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23:28That was game one against the Cavs? Oh, my God. We were down like how much we were down? Oh, I remember that. Yeah. I remember that. Stav and Judd Apatow. That was right after we won. Yeah. That Stav's baby? That Stav's baby and Judd Apatow. Yeah, we had fun, man. That was pretty epic. You know what's fun about that? So that outfit that I'm wearing with Stav's before the last pick and Stav's outfit is the exact same outfit we wore when we beat the Celtics in game six the previous year because we were at that game together and we're superstitious. So we didn't even coordinate that. We just showed up that way.

24:03Rich Eisen:Listen, this run was just as magical as it gets. And, you know, it's amazing that, again, that they started dominating, though. I know that, like, again, the Hawks series looked like every other series that the Knicks have been playing in the playoffs to only serve to leave us all disappointed forever. Pretty much forever. It had the hallmarks, CJ McCollum starring as Trey Young or Halliburton or Reggie. Like, it's just, okay, here it goes again. And then a switch hit only to have Cleveland, as you point out in game one, come in and just rain points on them until they just watched the Knicks come back on him and then just 120 points here, 130 points here, 140 points there.

24:54Rich Eisen:And it's just like, what the hell is going on? It was crazy. And I didn't expect to really dislike Wembenyama because I was like, yeah, he seems like kind of fun. And then I was like, I really don't like him. Like I started just spiraling. I was like doing research. I'm like, oh, his dad's 6 '7", his mom is 6 '3". It feels like they did this on purpose. It feels like eugenics. It feels like Hitler would have liked it. and uh yeah that's a take that's my take okay hitler would have liked wemby maybe not he didn't like he didn't like black people so that's a reach i guess but you know french in the french yeah he didn't like any now it's okay i took a reach probably didn't like basketball either probably probably not throw it out there yeah certainly not new york but um but yeah but no i did not like wemby pointing his head oh you're the clear villain that's it right there when he He told, because like Mitchell Robinson, you know, committed the offensive foul.

25:45Rich Eisen:Yeah. Points like I'm in your head. And then it devolved from there only to have OG pop one in on him, you know? OG, if Brunson doesn't have that game five, OG is the finals MVP. I mean, he was dominant, man. He was so good and fearless, dude. Throwing down dunks. And I mean, that tip in was. Were you there for that one? I wasn't at that one. All right. Which ones did you go to? I went to game one in San Antonio. What was that like? Epic. It was amazing. So I flew down with my friend, one of my childhood friends, Chase. We fly down to Austin. You couldn't get a ticket into San Antonio. It was all booked.

26:23I get a text from Shane Gillis, a comedian. He was like, are you going to the game? I said, yeah, I just landed in Austin. He goes, come over. I'm going. So we had like a drunk bus with all these other comics. No kidding. Matt McCusker, Tommy Pope, all these comedians. Yeah. And we were pounding drinks. We go there. we end up in a Knicks row, thankfully. I'm next to a bunch of Knicks fans that made friends. I didn't realize this until after the game because I guess I was behind Chris Tucker. I was like, man, that guy looks like a fat Chris Tucker. And then after the thing, they were like, this is Chris Tucker.

26:51And I was like, holy shit, I love Chris Tucker. You know? And clearly a Spurs fan. He's a Texas guy. Right. And then, you know, Knicks are down. It's one of those things I'm like, oh man, are we going to lose? And I will say the San Antonio fans, there's like a few crazy ones, but for the most part, they were pretty cool. They were pretty friendly. They were like, and they were talking trash, but I was like, guys, you've won five in my lifetime.

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27:14Rich Eisen:Well, including the last time the Knicks made the finals. I know. They've taken five, and it's not like you're not going to win one with Wemby. You're going to win probably a few with this young core of Wemby and Dylan Harper and Castle. They're unbelievable players. Harper's so good. He's unbelievable. I thought he was going to get the Knicks, that he was going to be the one to get him, that it wasn't going to be Wemby. Castle's tough, too. He's physical. I mean, that's, and he also doesn't. And Champagny? Well, and the thing with Castle is he's a UConn guy. So you know he's not spooked by Madison Square Garden.

27:46Rich Eisen:Champagny's a St. John's guy. Right, I know that. So you know those kids know what it's like to play in Madison Square Garden, right? So, and then, but they just didn't know how to finish. They didn't know how to finish. And the Knicks did. And the Knicks, you know, would pull one rabbit out of a hat after another. I know they lost to the Cavs in the analytics department, right? Yeah, we heard that a lot. That was embarrassing. And the Spurs said the same thing, essentially, in a way. But that is the epitome of loser talk. Listen, I love going down this road here because it's also previewing what we're going to be talking about for much of the season that's upcoming.

28:26That Brunson has flipped the script for all of us.

28:32Rich Eisen:And he has now entered New York lore forever by being the Michael Jordan of the equation. The Knicks were supposed to lose all of these games because somebody else was raising their level to a point in crunch time that the Knicks could not overcome. And now the Knicks have one of those guys themselves. And the numbers support it. His ability, what, his 45 points in the closer was the most in a closer since Jordan. did it on the Jazz. 45. Giannis had a 50-piece. But not in a closer, did he? Not in a closer. Yeah, he did. Oh, he did? Oh, really? Whatever, he's seven feet. Exactly. But put up the photograph.

29:15Rich Eisen:This one actually made me feel that Ewing feels that he's got a championship now. Imagine if Ewing had a guy like Brunson on his team. Well, he had Bernard King in his rookie season. and Bernard was at the end of it. But they never really. Right. They never, like it was never peak Bernard. But the fact that Brunson's like, all right, I'll hold the MVP trophy, but Pat, you take the Larry OB with this photograph. And the look on Brunson's face is just like, yeah, I did this. And I'm happy to share this with Patrick. Like there's so many emotions when I see this. A lot of emotions. The shot of Ewing in the Newsies cap, you know, when he's just kind of nodding like a proud dad.

30:00is beautiful and brunson the way brunson carried himself this whole run like just there's that shot of him walking out looking like batman just so you know stoic stone-faced right and you see whenby when they won when they went to the finals i know he's younger but he's like crying he's emotional and i'm like dude you're seven five like this guy's six feet tall right and he's carrying himself like like yeah let's business isn't over yet and he refused to be in a room

30:26Rich Eisen:with the trophy or have a i love that have a photograph of it or even a a rendering of it on the on a backdrop like whenever he was being interviewed by espn or abc it was like a dark backdrop it didn't have like the trophy he didn't want anything it's psycho stuff but in a good way he's our psycho right like as opposed to somebody else's like you need that like this is going to be it's now that now about this let's let's go here their follow-up all right they're putting lebron in the building and his first night is a sixer and everybody's going to be sitting here thinking knicks can be had that this is just a one-off because it's been like when was the last time we did repeat champions was the warriors that's been a while and so the knicks are just going to be that other one what if the knicks go ahead and do it again why shouldn't they be able to right You know, that's, I mean, let's go.

31:18Yeah. The Sixers are going to be tough. No question. I mean, losing Paul George is a, is a good move for them. Gaining Jalen Brown is a good move. Gaining LeBron. Like you look at like the Warriors, you're like, how did you not trade for Jalen Brown? Cause then you get LeBron with Steph Curry. You know, I don't, the Warriors front office talk about letting down Steph Curry in these last few years. I think when that guy does that, what he's done in the Olympics, like, you know, he's got a little left in the tank. So the Sixers look tough for sure. Edgecombe's really good. Maxie is like incredible.

31:53But yeah, why can't the Knicks do it again? Why not? Who's the biggest competition? Can the Pistons figure it out? Go ahead, Chris.

32:01Rich Eisen:I'm sure you want to chime in here, although you're the team that acquired Paul George for Jalen Brown. I still think Boston's going to be right there too, yeah. Really? Yeah. Maybe. I mean, you never know, right? I mean, maybe just it's weird to have guys as good as Tatum and Brown, and it just doesn't work. I mean, they won one, but it's weird that it's like you can't just coexist. I also, for the Celtics, I always kind of resented that they were like, it's Tatum's team. I'm like, why can't you just be like we're co-pilots? I didn't get – to me, that was just weird. It's like you're just trying to create stuff.

32:36There was something going on. It feels like there's something going on. And also just cap purposes, you're paying two guys more than 50 % of the salary. That's just not sustainable in the way the NBA is kind of set up right now.

32:46Rich Eisen:Who'd you run into or meet in the Knicks playoff run that you'd never met before, you know, down there on the old celebrity row? I mean, I'd met most of them before. I ran to Bernard King. I shared with him for a while. I had a show on MSG for a brief minute, and I interviewed him, and he always remembered me from it, which is just so strange. He's the best. He's the nicest guy. and got to sail it up to Walt a couple times, who's just the legend. Yeah, I mean, it was... And now Brunson's in that category. There's just no doubt about it. I understand Walt Frazier is Walt Frazier, but Brunson doing it in his town and putting a parade in the Canyon of Heroes with everybody else.

33:25Rich Eisen:End of story. It was pretty epic, dude. I mean, it was... Yeah, it ruined my comedy for like 10 weeks. I was like bad at comedy for 10 weeks. I was just feeling good. and uh i'm i'm so glad it's over because it's like it's not even like i felt joy but it was more like i felt relief if you're a sports fan and you've never won like i'm a yankees fan i'm a giants fan i'm a rangers fan but like knicks were always up here to me yeah and that was the one that always like basketball is my favorite so uh you know i was at the ewing finger roll miss game i was carried out like 10 or 11 years old ever crying by my dad you know so you have those memories imprinted as you in you as a child where you're just like this is sad like we're just not meant to win and it was on the same basket where josh hart's uh finger roll went off the back iron in that og game when you thought here we go they're gonna finally take the lead and it didn't it's just like okay not meant to be again that's the ptsd of being a nick for the lack of and also we love josh so much that for him to i know for him to be the one too and for the guy who does all the unsung stuff for a guy who's the glue guy for the guy who is diving on the ball the guy who's got that you know mace and oak in him and and charlie ward the guys who would do that before him yeah yeah for him to blow it would have crushed us so i'm so glad that og saved he said that he said that too he said og saved my my you know for for the rest of my days i'm i'm i'm i've been i was saved for missing that although you know again who knows what would have happened after that but it did put the Knicks in a much better position because of that finger roll.

34:57But Brunson said, he goes, that was the moment where we realized because they didn't get down on him. And this team, they trash each other all the time. But it's playful when it's really bad. That's what you do with your friends, though. You trash your friends. But then when something really bad happens to them, you're like, no, no, it's cool.

35:15Rich Eisen:Well, I just thought that you kept your head when you knew you were on camera that you didn't show the number one. you showed five fingers because we're able to actually air it. Totally. We found it. Yeah. Is that you back there? Yeah. It's the thumbs down one. Yeah, I did too. Oh, there it is. Yeah. There you are. Wow, that's so funny. There you are. I know. I'm an entertainer. I know where the camera is. Atta boy. Yeah, no, he, McCollum was great though. And I, that game, the game where we really turned it on was the closeout game against the Hawks. That was the game when it was like, what the hell just happened?

35:48I know. That was, what, we went by 50?

35:51Rich Eisen:Yeah, Knicks putting the fans in a rocking chair in a closeout game like that was a good sign. And then, of course, the Cavs analytically put us in a tough spot in game one. Can't say that's sort of joking enough. Kenny Atkinson, he's too cool a guy to be doing that. What is he doing? I have a lot of respect for Kenny Atkinson, New York guy, and clearly a good coach, but like, dude, what are you doing saying that? was the we might be drunk podcast the drunkest you've ever had after the next victory or no i was pretty hammered after they won okay uh but we were just marching down seventh avenue i made it a point there's a bouncer at the cellar uh jamel and i was like if we win i'm i don't care how hard it's to get downtown i'm coming down we're doing a big shot and you did of course okay of course it was a beautiful moment we were emotional a lot of hugs uh yeah the city was on fire man it I've never, like people you don't, childhood friends were like hitting me up.

36:49Just like, dude, I'm like, I know. August 30th in Lisbon, Portugal. Yeah.

36:55Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. September 2nd in Athena, Greece. September 3rd, Budapest, Hungary. September 5th, Zagreb, Croatia. And September 8th, Vienna, Austria. Yeah, dude. Look at you, man. SamMurrell.com for dates and tickets on all of that. Congratulations on being there. I'll be wearing Nick's gear there, too. Atta boy. Now, was this a tour that you set up thinking that you'd need to try and get Giannis on the Knicks? Did I ever tell you? It's a tour of all the places where people that you thought the Knicks would want, but they don't need it. So years ago, I did a benefit for Giannis. It was like Ronnie Chang, Hasan Minhaj, me.

37:32I do stand-up for his foundation. Goes well. Those gigs never go well. Every time I do a benefit, they're just like, why did we hire this guy? that was too many AIDS jokes, whatever. Whatever I do. They're like, this was bad. So I get off, and Giannis and Thanasis are super cool. I tried to bring Stav, because he's obsessed with Giannis. And he was like, you're not going to get to meet him. I got to meet him, got to hang out with him, and sent Stav a video like, you idiot. And he was like, why didn't I come? But I was talking to Giannis for a while. And he goes, you a Bucs fan? I go, no, I'm a Knicks fan.

38:06Screw the Bucs. And I told him, I respect the Bucs. I love Holiday. I love it was when it was like Middleton holiday Portis like I said I like your team a lot Lopez I like how they play but I'm a Knicks fan and he goes you never know where I end up next free agency and I was like don't do that to me dude don't do this to me so of course after that the shock wears off I'm like I think he's coming to the Knicks so I start talking it up I go on like pardon my take they're trashing me so hard for it they're like you fell for that and I was like he could come he wants to come to New York then two years later he wants to come to New York right but we already had the team team but Giannis would have I think it wouldn't have worked with Giannis and Brunson as well just because they're both ball dominant as great as Giannis is like you know Holiday is not a ball dominant he's a kind of a different type of player Middleton was more catch and shoot I think Giannis would have been great for us of course but like I love how we got Towns we we changed his story that's the best shooting big man ever so and Pavard is passing Giannis doesn't really shoot

39:04Rich Eisen:the outside ball well how about this it worked out who knew samuril that you and i and all of nicks fandom don't need yannis don't need lebron don't need name every last person that the knicks would have fallen all over themselves kevin durant all of these people that the knicks put on their season ticket brochures before they were freed don't need them anymore they're all jason what we have well it's it's cool that we did it without like yeah if lebron came here it wouldn't have felt as sweet if we won and if we lose this finals lebron's coming to the knicks and then say we win with lebron it's like it doesn't feel as cool you know what i still would have been fine yeah i would have been fine with it but it wouldn't have been as cool that the fact that brunson and hard and og and bridges and towns and see alvarado a new york kid and sam you're thinking about and sham Damn it.

40:02Rich Eisen:You're thinking about the way it's always been when we were beggars. Now, we're choosers. We're choosers. As an orange and blue sky, Sam are alive, Knicks in five. That's the way we're rolling a break. Good to see you, man. Good to see you, dude. Enjoy your travels. You too, man. Okay, very good. Right here on the Rich Eisen Show, your phone calls. I don't know why I slammed the table so much, but I'm so excited. Is it an NFL trade? Is that what you said? Yes, sir. All right. That's coming when we come back. Fantastic. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

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42:25Rich Eisen:Visit HyundaiUSA.com for details. Here it comes. And my eyes see breaking news. What's the NFL trade? Guys, according to the Ringer and Netflix Sports' and most importantly, our friend Tom Pellicero, the Patriots are sending Kayshawn Booty to the Houston Texans for safety Jalen Reed and a future draft pick. Okay. Who came on and mentioned Booty as a possible trade ship? You know, Jason McCourty said that first off. That's right. And we all, you and I kind of looked at each other like, oh, that would make a lot of sense. And they get the deal done. Boy, that's a good pickup. He had asked for a trade, but had been participating in training camp.

43:08He did not play in the second preseason game. So that was also kind of an indication that maybe something was in the works.

43:14Rich Eisen:But yeah, I think this works for both teams. All this does, right? Yeah. Patriots had kind of a crowded wide receiver room. He had wanted out. Now he gets a chance to really be the number two there for Houston with Jaden Higgins out for the season. So Nick Casario, needing wide receivers, decides to make a booty call. Oh, listen, I should just leave now. I don't think he's getting well. I mean, there's only a few minutes left. I don't think he'd get any better. Hello. Made a booty call. We've all done it. Had I been the one to say that? Have we? Listen, I'm allowed to say these things. Or at least I like to think I've got enough.

43:55Rich Eisen:Hello. To unlock the game. Because the other day, that popped in my head, and I was like, I can't say that. But now I know. Very good. Who's booty? Boop, booty. Hey, they should know him well. In case you have booty lit them up the last couple years. Hey, you cover what you see. I saw that in the South. They covered that booty? Yeah. Jared in Brooklyn, New York. Let's take your phone call. What's up, Jared? Holy cow, this is a dream. I appreciate it. You got it, buddy. Thanks for holding on. I feel like I'm probably the only ex-NFL player to talk about the Browns, non-ex-NFL player others in the mid.

44:28So this is very cool. Just really quickly on this whole debacle in Cleveland, a couple things that sort of impressed me over the weekend. One is that it just seems like there must have been some sort of agreement between ownership and Monk, and they didn't really speak to that many guys seriously when Stefanski left. you know it's a big job all these nfl jobs are there are so few of them they didn't speak to that many guys it just makes me feel like there's there is some sort of agreed upon situation between ownership management and monken to start watson no matter what but the other thing that's super weird and and i'm curious your view rich because you watch a lot of football and your buddies with all these guys he doesn't he meaning to sean doesn't look healthy to me it looks like he's throwing with his entire upper body and has no arm strength left.

45:19So I don't know if I'm just like seeing things in training camp or the game. He's got nothing on the ball. He can't throw a spiral. The ball takes a million years to get to the players. So to me, it's not even a matter of fact. He plays horribly in the game or whatever. These look terrible every single day of training camp and the game. Something is wrong here. I would love for you guys to talk about it.

45:43Rich Eisen:Well, listen, I would love to say, you know, hey, I see the same thing or whatever. I'm not an all 22 guy. I haven't watched every single throw from Deshaun Watson. I have seen enough to know that it hasn't looked great. Right. And I have seen enough preseason football to know that whatever doesn't look great in August, it has no bearing on what we see in September through, if you're lucky, February. So it's going to come out. We're going to see it. It's going to happen. because Todd Munkin's made his decision, and it's a week-to-week thing, and I appreciate it, Jared. Call back more often. We'll get you on more.

46:19Rich Eisen:So, you know, certainly since, you know, you sparked a conversation here, it may be the case. You know, maybe we'll get some all-22 guys on here and say, oh, yeah, your caller from Brooklyn is right. He doesn't have anything on the ball, and it's going to be a total mess. Well, guess what? We're going to see it. We're going to see it. and the whole business is that if he looks so terrible in the first two weeks and oh and two oh they're gonna put him out there week three they're going to they're going to do it they're going to do it you're not going to sit here and go all right two weeks we've already seen enough you're you're you're so like it's so bad that we can't put you out there in cleveland like i said it's not the national feelings league it's the national football league and if he doesn't do well enough then it will be shador sanders time and if he doesn't do well enough it'll be 2027 draft class kid time that's it but i think everybody out there knows that already but i like saying it authoritatively because it sounds good for us thanks for listening to the rich eisen show podcast you can watch and listen to the rich eisen show live weekdays from noon to three eastern on espn radio disney plus and on the espn app the rich eisen show the podcast

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