Hour 3: Rich’s ‘4-Downs’ Browns Season Preview, plus Actor Jake Johnson In-Studio

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0:56Rich Eisen:This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of The Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show Let me break it down for you again The Rich Eisen Show Spain has been the best team in the tournament From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles The way they suffocate you is unlike any other team in this tournament Earlier on the show Apple TV lead MLS analyst Taylor Twellman ESPN college football analyst Josh Pate Coming up Actor Jake Johnson And now, it's Rich Eisen.

1:59Rich Eisen:That's right, everybody. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the program. Whether you're listening to us on ESPN Radio or Sirius XM Channel 80 or watching us on Disney Plus and the ESPN app, just give us a call. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We'll take your calls in a matter of moments. our friend Jake Johnson is in our green room his new film The Dink on Apple TV it's a Ben Stiller production Ben's in it very funny scenes Ed Harris Mary Steenburgen Andy Roddick don't want to get too deep I don't know about spoiling or anything like that but Jake's very funny in it he's a very funny guy Die Hard Bears fan Good, better, best, all that good stuff.

2:50Rich Eisen:I'm going to have him play a win-loss game coming up right here on this program. If you missed any of the first two hours with Taylor Twelman or Josh Pate, there's our Disney Plus feed. There's also all three hours available by podcast. There's our YouTube channel as well, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show for all of our clips. Overreaction Monday is back. We did one today. We're going to do another one in two weeks. and then that is going to start to become weekly again, Rob. Oh, yeah. We're just trying to keep pace with no contest wrestling. That's what we're trying to do. We're back back. So there's that.

3:29Rich Eisen:You can check that out visually on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash RichEisenShow, or wherever you get your podcasts to listen to us. Bottom line is we're unavoidable. I've got my four downs on the Cleveland Browns. We'll get to that in a second. Let's take a phone call. Kyle in Atlanta has been hanging on for quite some time. What's up, Kyle? Hey, Rich. Hey to the boys in the studio. Hey, what up, man? What's up, Kyle? Tom Pellisero thing. I was looking to do the win-loss game for my Houston Texans. Why are you a Houston Texans fan in Atlanta, Georgia, sir? What's up with that? I was born in Texas, and my brother was such a Cowboys fan, it drove me nuts, so I couldn't be a Cowboys fan.

4:06Rich Eisen:So I switched to the next thing. All right. Say hi to your brother for me. Okay. We've had only one individual call in, and 13-4 is what Texas fan prior. I need to write this a little bit better. Oh, I think it's somewhere in South Carolina. All right. Are you ready for this, Kyle, in Atlanta? What happens when the Texans host the Bills? We got Josh Allen's number. That's a win. Hoskins, I'm going to clap back for you, okay? Just make sure that there's not some weak holding penalty that gets called against the Bills in a playoff game. Is that a good one, Hoskins? Was that a good one? You're welcome.

4:48Rich Eisen:That was Josh Allen's first career playoff game, I believe. All right, so that's a win. Bengals and Texans, what happens next? Another win. Ah, 2-0 at the Colts. That's a third win right there. And then what happens when the Cowboys come to town? Sorry, TJ. That's 4-0. Texans and Titans. That's another one. 5-0 when you show up at the Jaguars' de facto London home in Wembley. What happens then? We're going to split with the Jags this year. So that's a win or a loss? That's a loss. All right. First loss of the season. 5-1 back home against the Giants. That's a win. 6-1 at the Chargers. I think the Chargers will take us on that one.

5:30Rich Eisen:Oh, okay. Revenge for the game that I called last December. 6-2 at the Browns. That's a win. 7-2 home for the Colts on a Thursday night. I think that's also going to be a win. and I think we're going to sweep them. 8-2, Ravens at Texans. Ravens always seem to get us, so I think that's going to be a loss. 8-3 at the Steelers. A repeat of the playoff. 9-3 at the Commanders. That's another win. 10-3, home for the Jaguars, so that's 11-3. You say you'd split. Now you're at the Eagles on Christmas Eve. I think that one will be a loss. 11-4 at the Packers on a Monday night. That will be a win. 11, 12, and 4, home for the Titans.

6:17I think we're going to rest starters to get ready for the playoffs, so we'll probably take a loss.

6:21Rich Eisen:All right, so you're going 12 and 5 there, says Kyle in Atlanta. All right, thanks very much. That's Kyle in Atlanta. You know what? A little more reasonable than 13. You know, I'm going to do a four down to the Texans eventually, but just going through their schedule. Their first nationally televised game is week 6, Sunday morning in London. Then their next nationally televised game is a Thursday nighter. Colts at Texans. NBC's got a flexible game week 13 when they visit the Steelers. They're on Christmas Eve, and then they finish up Monday night football on ESPN at the Packers. Otherwise, they got themselves those only one late window game at all.

7:06Rich Eisen:The rest of them are noon central. Kicks. The game at the Chargers is the only one that's a late window. I mean, CJ Stroud winning all those games. Dude. Is that what I heard all that? Listen, Stroud is such a conundrum. I know. Because you're waiting for, like he has his rookie season that he's electric. Yep. And then seasons that aren't as electric. But then he makes the playoffs and he wins a playoff game every year. Yeah. And he goes to the divisional round and then fizzles. I mean, the Texans defense isn't going anywhere. True. And if this kid can play like he did in his first year, Texans can make the Super Bowl.

7:55Rich Eisen:There's just no other way to put it. No other way to put it. And then he's now in line for a contract extension. Do you give him 50-something million a year? I know you don't, Chris. You'd rather throw him. I make him play it out this year for sure. Play it out. Yeah, play it out this year for sure. Oh, my word. He's got a 28-18 record. You make him play it out, huh? Yeah. Do you know what that signals to him and the rest of the locker room? You make him play it out? What? What is the signal? That you are the quarterback. You're the leader of this team. And we don't have faith in you. And we're not signing you a long-term contract.

8:32Rich Eisen:And we just gave Will Anderson 50, something that starts with a five. We're not willing to do that for you. Will Anderson is a top three defender in the league.

8:45Rich Eisen:that should be motivation yeah oh it definitely should be rockwin you'd be a great coach thanks mike well again that's something you'd have to take a look at there's quarterback competitions and then quarterbacks in line for contracts and what where do they slot and do they get one yeah and cj stroud's at the top of the does he get one list because anybody else who's in line for a contract haven't won playoff games like he has no it's That's simple. And what you do, you don't sign him and you get someone else to come in and then you got to start from scratch? No, it's not about not signing him.

9:19Rich Eisen:You Kirk Cousins him. You keep franchise tagging him and franchise tagging him and you just one year it, one year it, one year it, and then he'll wind up. The richest man in the world. Right. He'll wind up getting paid like Garrett Cole or Tarek Skubal or like a Major League Baseball ace. Or you say this is the offer. 4-160, 4-180. You're not getting the four, you know, two plus. Yeah. You're just not. That's on the docket. All right. I got a four downs for the Cleveland Browns. And that rhymes. Hit it, please. Four downs with Rich. Here we go. All right. This one wrote itself. I mean, the four downs to Cleveland Browns are pretty straightforward.

10:09Rich Eisen:I mean, you could pretty much guess it, just as you might not guess the order in which I put it. But first down. First down. What does a post-Garrett defense look like? You know what, Garrett, we're talking about? Miles? Yeah, it's Miles. We're talking about Miles. Wouldn't it be great if I'm like Mrs. Garrett, Brad Garrett. Jason Garrett. Garrett Morris. Jason Garrett Morris. You know what I mean? Garrett Whitlock. Sure. Of your 13 wins in a row, Boston Red Sox. Had to sneak something. Got it. What does it look like? I have no idea. Where are you going to find those 20-plus sacks from? Honey, listen, Jared Burst took, let's just hope he takes the hearts and the souls of opposing quarterbacks as he took Dylan Gabriel's number eight.

10:58Rich Eisen:I just knew immediately where you would go with that. Hopefully he steals the souls of opposing quarterbacks like he stole the number. Have we heard any? Yes. was there? Jared Versus was on Good Morning Football last week. They asked him about it. He goes, I saw all the stories. He goes, we had a quick conversation. The number was discussed. We handled business that way. There was a transaction. There was a transaction. He didn't say what it was. He didn't say how much. He just said that they did briefly speak and they came to a bag of donuts. Yeah, a bag of donuts. It was a bag of donuts. A local.

11:29Rich Eisen:At any rate, listen, Jared, it's your world. How many of the 20 can you make up? It's not fair to just throw that there. It is not fair. Where are you going to find it? You're also shortchanging Miles Garrett. It was, you know, 23. I understand that. You know, I understand. Does he get half? It's not fair to even lay it on him. 10 is very difficult for Jared. I think he can get half, but where's the other half coming from? And again, like, it's going to be a while until we figure out how the Browns can fill that void. I can tell you. My gosh. From the interview I saw, he's motivated. He's ready to go.

12:09Rich Eisen:Okay, great. I love it. Second down for the Browns. Second down. Is Todd Munkin ready for primetime? I'm going to ask this of every first year head coach. I think that's fair. You know what I mean? Yeah.

12:22Rich Eisen:And if I, again, ask it of Mike LaFleur in Arizona and certainly of the coordinator of the defending champion Seattle Seahawks, now the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders in Clint Kubiak, then I've got to ask him here. And then in terms of primetime itself, the Browns have 1 o 'clock Eastern starts in every game this year but one. One. They play on Thursday, I'm guessing. Against the Steelers week four. Wow. That's it. Other than that, either we're flexing into Munkin, a little Munkin flex. That's a fantasy name. Flexing in a Monken? Flexing in a Monken. Flexing in a Monken. Write that down for Paul Rudd in a couple months.

13:08Rich Eisen:Flexing in either you're flexing in a Monken. Yeah, that's funny. That is funny. Or you're hanging with Scotty Hanson to watch your Browns. 12 Monkens? On Sunday. Only eight Sundays. 12 Monkens. From what I read. They're all one Eastern. So we'll find out. Is he ready for primetime? We'll find out in actual primetime one week this year. Monken see, Monken do. Okay. Okay. Miles. Right? I mean. All right. Third down for the Browns. Third down. Again, these write themselves. It's simple. Who's QB1? Who is it? Who is it? By the way, did you see Shador crack the top 70 of the top 100 NFL players? Did you see that?

13:54Rich Eisen:Guys. Why? I'm just telling you. I'm telling y 'all here. is it Shador or Deshaun Watson? I believe at the end of the day the Browns have put too much capital, literal, you know, sweat equity, whatever you want to put it in Deshaun Watson. And it's going to be, let's see what Deshaun has one last time. Is it? Honestly, it's just like, they're not going to have him come back from his Achilles and everything that the organization put into this and didn't get out of it, that they're going to do their damnedest to see if there's anything left in Deshaun Watson for them to somehow, someway go, see, at least we got this.

14:45Rich Eisen:I'm just wondering if that's going to tip the scales. Or are you just going to go with Shador and see what he's got? That would be a bold choice. But that's third down. And then fourth down is a simple one too. Is this year's QB1, whoever it is, also next year's? Yeah. And potentially years beyond. Because the Browns are set... Browns have drafted very well, okay, the last couple years. They have. Andrew Berry, you take a look at their draft and how they've set themselves up and how the picks cascade one into another and to another and to another. They want a quarterback in next year's draft. They are well positioned for it to get a good one.

15:27Rich Eisen:Again, everyone's like, hey, you got all these first round picks like the Browns and the Jets. You're going to be able to get whoever the hell you want. That's not true. That's not true. Let's for instance, let's say the Jets finish first overall. You think the Browns are going to be we've got all these first round picks. We'd like to draft first overall. It's like, yeah. So, you know, get in line. But if it's a deep enough draft, do they go ahead and choose one of those quarterbacks next year and say great 2026? 2026, Shador, great 2026, Deshaun, but we're done now. And how does this year's season play out to make that decision apparent and when?

16:05Rich Eisen:And when? And do you flip players for draft choices to just load up at a trade deadline? If that's what you do. Or can Todd Monken and whoever is QB1 and whoever has been drafted the last couple of years put a winning season together? and suddenly the Browns were a sleeper team of 2026 and next year's draft becomes a first-class problem. That's what fourth down is about. And those are my four downs on the Cleveland Browns. We got the commanders tomorrow. A lot of questions for those guys. I know. I mean, am I missing anything? I mean, I could have gone with, you know, how will this year's draft class pan out or whatever, but it really is like, what's the defense look like without Miles?

16:54Rich Eisen:Correct. Is the coach the real good hire? Who's he going to choose as a starting quarterback? And what does it mean for next year's draft? And the future of the position? Yep. I'm sure we could get more into the fine print here for the Browns fans, but this is it. It's only four downs. You know what I mean? Four downs. That's it. Four. I think we need one more. No, no, no. No, no, no. There's no fifth down. it's a different that's a that's not our first monken fantasy name what do you mean by the way there was a yielding monken uh earlier this was that i don't know so you never write down you never write down the context so we just um yielding monken right in between minter fresh and what's eisen okay well what's eisen is from jeopardy right you know and vanilla as if i'm an Object.

17:46Rich Eisen:By the way, how dare you consider me an object? Yeah. I'm a human. I'm a human. All right. There's so many good names. Let me just find the actual information that I need to have right here. I can't keep track. I can't keep track anymore here on the program. Okay, here we go. Our friends at LinkedIn want to remind you about your small business and running it is so crucial that you make it. every hire matter because a bad hire that costs time and money the right one helps your business grow and the challenge is finding that person without sorting through resumes and that is where linkedin hiring pro comes in it screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent with hiring pro you can hire with confidence and build the team you need join the 2.7 million small businesses using linkedin to hire right now and get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eisen terms and conditions apply what's eisen thank you so much

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20:04Rich Eisen:We did it when we made advanced safety standard on every vehicle and engineered EVs with ultra fast charging capability because the future isn't some far off concept. It's already here. Next starts now. Hyundai, an official partner of FIFA. The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Dink premiering globally this Friday, July 24th on Apple TV. One of the stars, if not the star of the film ladies and gentlemen jake johnson is here on the program what a cast dude you know who's going to be the breakout is aaron chen yes pj for sure so andy roddick's a killer mackinroll's a killer all these good ben steller's the funniest person i've ever well i mean i don't want to give too much away yes but the scene in which you get um hurt for you know later in yes okay because you're yes as a kid like a prodigy who gets hurt yes taking on andy roddick in the in the open right yes open or no no i think that it's just like a big an up-and-coming okay great and and you get hurt and then you you know you you wind up becoming a tennis pro and you're trying to win again and you get hurt the scene where ben stiller is walking you through rich this is not a joke i've now been doing this for 20 years i view myself as a professional who doesn't break a lot yes we were cross-covering it which means there's a camera on me and a camera on him and he started improvising it was so funny that i didn't care that i was ruining takes i didn't i was like it's unprofessional but i've been a fan of this man since the ben stiller show when i was a kid watching him riff i was like yeah he's one of one man he is he is one of all that stuff he talks about about the sex with ladies and what is it called sticking on your oh my god that stuff was in the script so funny yeah then watching stiller take it seriously yeah i was like this is right in the wheelhouse of what i find funny and it's killing it again like i like you said just moments ago for our tv audience when i'm shared with you um in the back is it it it just feels like a visiting like an old friend totally right this movie yes you know what i've been saying about it what and i realize i'm saying it wrong but you say it better than me okay it's like yacht rock you're not wrong but it's coming across because people view like i love the doobie brothers Sure.

22:20I love that kind of sound. Yeah, yeah. But you said it better. And I wish I'd met with you at the beginning of the press door because we want it to feel like you're hanging out with old friends. Yeah. You're laughing. It's light.

22:29Rich Eisen:Yes. It's just like, it's a movie. It's 90 minutes. There's no big messages. Right. We're not teaching you anything. And it involves a club. So there's a little bit of Caddyshack. A little bit of Caddyshack. And there's obviously Dodgeball. Yeah. Well, by the way, speaking of Caddyshack, I got to sit with Eli Manning. Okay. I did. He's got a show now, Eli at the movies. uh eli at the movies and i picked caddyshack oh you did being able to talk to eli one-on-one about quarterbacking and facing brady in the super bowl what a cool guy so no that that is one what a dude but um so you you showed him caddyshack is that what you're saying yeah so we had he had he he had seen and he loved it so the idea is you pick a movie and they wanted to do for me rookie of the year that cubs won because i'm a diehard cubs fan sure and i was like i don't care about rookie of the year right i was like it's a good movie yeah when i was a kid but i'm like if we got to talk movies and a sports one yes nothing touches caddy shack caddy shack is the greatest movie to this day i'm like that is rodney dangerfield in that movie oh my god is so tonally insane he is he i was there's a moment i'm going to stand for it when he stands imagine this on set when no one gives you this direction as an actor to stand up he stands what he does this with his legs i'm watching it i'm thinking imagine being in a scene and be like hey rodney yeah what's going on with the leg homeboy that's not how human men stand brother no he just everything he's just what are you gonna do but but the and this is what's so crazy is that i can actually say this ted knight is the king of that film and in a way ed harris kind of has that you're totally right in your film you're totally ed harris is in charge of tennis at the club happens to be your father and he's very strict and there's a way things are exactly right you know yes how about andy roddick in this movie dude he's funny man he is funny he is fine and and just it's great to just see him in a role like this too what's it like being in a scene with ed harris intimidating really yeah especially because it's this kind of movie if he and i were doing more of a drama sure i would have mentally prepared myself more but because it's with like josh and sean we were doing so many bits and so i we were in stupid world you know but like it was just fine like aaron chen and mary steenburgen who's not only talented is just the nicest i was in a you know like sweaty 12 year old boy vibes right well at least mary steenburgen's been in you know yes and she and she gets it in stepbrothers which is as you know rude a film as there by the way i got cut out of stepbrothers what my first job ever dude i was uh on a second now what what i played rob it was my first gig i got a call saying mckay wants you to come in which i was like oh my god and i played uh rob wriggles and he you know how they all have flashbacks sure wriggle has a flashback of the first time he does steroids and i play a character named razor and i'm going like hey man you might like these and he's like what do they do and i'm like just trust me and he goes

25:40but i i was in that movie technically wow okay so some follow-up questions because you know rob's famous line is that's pow yeah the rob wriggle's one of the funniest guys on planet are you saying

25:51Rich Eisen:pow or pow like pow pow um so you played the steroid dealer for that for the pow guy wriggle and i did 21 jump street together that's where we met yeah and my experience with rob meeting rob we were at the hotel we saw each other and he's like hey brother how are you so nice and he goes you know my lovely wife is leaving at three and he's like what room are you in and i was like 408 man he's like you're off until monday like me i was like yeah he's like i'll maybe we'll get dinner a minute after three when his wife left there was a bang bang bang this maniac comes in with moonshine and he's like what's up man welcome welcome to new orleans we're about to have some fun the next 14 hours for the craziest hours of my life and it would be like six in the morning i'd be in a sauna with wriggle he would be doing some monologue i'd be doing some over the monologue and i would look over and i'm like not only do i love this guy but this is the craziest 14 hours i woke up the next day i was like okay i'm now i'm gonna love rob wriggle until the day i die oh my god he's such a he's such a good dude he's such a good dude he is so funny so funny um unthinkably funny yeah i want to work with him at any chance possible so you um so you got cut out of stepbrothers i got cut out of stepbrothers well and i'm glad i brought up you know the fact that mary steenburgen's in that so just i guess to loop back around so she you know obviously she's an actress of significant note oh yeah ed harris as well but you don't normally associate ed harris with free associating you know silliness no i think this is ed's first comedy and what i loved about it is he played it like a drama so the scenes with me and him i'm serious so we would be in two shots and you know when you do certain different tones yeah the vibe of the set changes based off the tone yeah so with him it was like we were doing a little drama about fathers and sons where we'd be in these two shots and you know if there was a line dropped yeah mostly in prep you're like well we'll get a lot of takes with ed it'd be like damn it and so even i'd be faking i'd be like son of a bitch but what it does is it brings a backbone to the movie sure yeah where you're like oh now we got some stakes like when ed harris was there everybody changed a little bit all the fear of the whole cast of him in the scenes yes wasn't fully written that way like that scene where i first see him in the house i go to shake his hand and he doesn't shake right fully improvised he just didn't shake my hand really yeah so you're like it's feeling so good yeah that's okay again this food this movie is just uh it's it's so much fun uh do you play pickleball or did you have to get up to speed i had to get up to speed i took tennis lessons with the great brad gilbert dude i know okay yeah he doesn't talk a lot that guy such a wall he's such a wallflower that brad gilbert mania mania so you took tennis lessons i got to learn to hit i got to learn to serve with brad okay and then from that we played some pickleball and i have not kept up with pickleball i like the game i think it's a lot of fun i have levels to it this idea that it's so easy anyone can do it that is true but it's not easy to get great at it no it's it's and it's he's he's such a pickleball are you a big player no no he's he's a pickleball doubt you You hate it.

29:11I play. It's for, it's for people of a certain age. So this, okay. I'm glad you said that because that was my thought, the pro league who I had to play with. So they would come in and you're playing with top players. That game, when you're at the net against three other top players, that is not for older ladies and gentlemen. That's a different. Now, if, if you go out, an 80 year old can play an eight year old day one, which for an athletic person is shocking. and you go like this isn't real right but there is a level that i found where i was like because at first i'm like i'm so good at this game it's crazy and then i was like i'm a like there's a line where aaron jen goes you're murdering these old people does there's a little feeling where you're like i just literally have to make you move a little bit and then you play against some of these people and you're like oh you can place this wiffle ball anywhere and you go like all i get it there's i mean there's a professional league for real no there's there's no doubt about

30:11Rich Eisen:it but tennis people do frown upon it which is what the whole movie is about yes and the line that ed harris says this is right for i thought of you okay liz saw it as well she wrote it down because she loved the line so much ed harris's character refers to pickleball as quote unquote the coronavirus of sports what a line that was very funny see that's right up your alley the ed harris monologue to start the movie that like opening thing was exceptional exceptional watching that i was like i feel like it's glengarry glenn rose but we're talking pickleball and the house the way josh directed it's so gorgeous i'm like everything about this is significant besides the subject matter i love that you choose that of all the ed harris that's a good one he's he's the one who asked Alec Baldwin's character, like, who is he?

31:04Rich Eisen:He's like, I'm... Yeah, who are you? And it's like, I'm the one who came with my car's worth, you know, 10 times more than yours. What a student that is. $80 ,000. Okay, so The Dink is premiering globally this Friday, July 24th on Apple TV. Let's get right down to it now. You're Chicago Bears, sir. Yes, sir. Okay, now. Are you from... Where are you from? Evanston? Where are you from? From Evanston. Okay. Then in the end, Lincoln Park. My mother was Rogers Park, but now my mother's out here in Elway. This is it now, man. you think well i mean i think this is potentially one of the best chances the bears have had in a long time yeah i think ben johnson is very real it makes me comedically look back at the eberfluse era trust me here and as a diehard which i am yeah like i remember when we hired eberfluse and i got notes and i don't know the guy right right but i remember going like i don't know who he is right i was like there was a bunch of coaches and then they go we're announcing matt eberfluse and then when I saw him on hard knocks, I remember going like, I don't know.

32:06You got Caleb Williams and they're saying every day he's sitting with Iberflus and Iberflus is just going like this a lot. I mean, look, that's a defense, right? You know what I mean, right? I was like, I don't know. Maybe we should get somebody else talking to Caleb.

32:20Rich Eisen:Well, now you got Ben Johnson who is seemingly the right sort of lunatic. I could not. What he did to McFleur, I've never seen anything like that. To the point where, as a Bears fan, I felt a little bad. For the Packers head coach? Yeah, shake his hand a little bit nicer. You just beat him. He's going like this. I feel like every once in a while, if you watch in the Animal Kingdom, where you're watching a lion eat something, you're like, I know everybody's got to eat. You could be a little nicer. You don't have to toy with it. You don't have to stalk. You just kill them. And then jump. Be a little nicer.