Hour 3: Rich’s NFL Defenses Power Rankings, Raiders QB Competition, plus NBA Finals Game 4 Factors

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1:03Rich Eisen:I was living with the officiating. Here we go again. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. All the shots we took, we got fouled four times. Four times. Four times. Earlier on the show, ESPN senior NBA writer Vincent Goodwill. Host of pro football talk, Mike Florio. Coming up. Your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. Phone lines are lit. We're going to get to your calls in just a matter of moments. Game four tonight. We talked about it with Vincent Goodwill from New York City in hour number one.

1:44Rich Eisen:And then in hour number two, we talked with Mike Florio about the National Football League and also his back being out. So, send a light of candle for him and his lower vertebrae. 844-204-RICH, number to dial here on the program. Chris Brockman, good to see you, sir. Hey, Rich, what up, man? Good to see you, Jason Feller, and an old-school Rich Eisen show lid. Good to see you, TJ Jefferson. How are you, sir? It's good to be seen. Good to have you be seen, for sure. And we'll get to phone lines in a second. My power ranking shortly, top 10 defenses in the NFL. Ooh. So we're sitting here on June the 10th.

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2:18Rich Eisen:Game four of the NBA Finals. um i just love the way stories marinate in our sports world first the shocking ones will surprise us and then there's the ripple effect and then the reaction and the rebound okay for instance the nfl world miles garrett going to the rams holy s right yeah okay crazy because we were looking for a.j brown to be traded that day he was eventually didn't think miles garrett would get done on june first and be sent to the Rams. Okay. For Jared verse and three draft choices over the span of three seasons and three different rounds and didn't see that coming. So we're stunned and we're shocked.

3:02Rich Eisen:And then the ripple effect is not only is Garrett going to the Rams, but you even thought about it for an overreaction Monday subject matter. Normally those are done as a knee jerk reaction to just have some fun. And a little outrageous. But Aaron Donald coming back. Yeah. That Miles Garrett showing up for the Rams would actually lure Aaron Donald, who had no desire to continue playing football anymore, back. Light a fire, scratch an itch, all that sort of stuff. Get him thinking. That's possible. And then comes the reaction from all of us here in the media, which is Rams are clearly the best team in the NFL.

3:41Rich Eisen:They now should win the Super Bowl. And then that gets put into the sports media meat grinder, and you sprinkle in a couple of comments from other teams, like we had Cooper Cup on the program the next day. And his answer was, you know, Aaron Donald, I've already texted him. He's not allowed to go. Not going to do it. Donald being the one who put the ring on his own finger, with a sack of Joe Burrow, but also a ring in Cooper Cup's hand, and Cooper was the MVP of that Super Bowl. Not allowed to come back. And then with those jokes and the germ of truth being, yeah, Miles Garrett on the Rams is a problem.

4:36Rich Eisen:Miles Garrett on the Rams is a problem. Teron Armstead comes on this show and says they could go 17-0 potentially. We put him through the win-loss game. he comes up with 16-1 because he thinks they'll take a knee on an undefeated season by resting starters in week 18, yada, yada, yada. The subtext is, good luck to the defending Super Bowl champs and everyone else to try and beat the Rams. And that narrative begins to start to permeate. And the NFL is full of prideful men. I think the first person to mention this narrative in a very sarcastic way was Dan Campbell, who, for whatever reason, was asked in Detroit, what do you make of the Miles Garrett acquisition by the Rams?

5:23Rich Eisen:And here was his answer. Yeah, I mean, good for them. You know, I mean, they've won it now, right? I mean, so, yeah, honestly, I had none. I mean, he's a hell of a player versus hell of a player, you know, and they're two totally different players. But, you know, that was what they felt like they needed to do, and good for them, man. Yeah. I mean, his answer could be like, I'm the coach of the Detroit Lions. What are you asking me for? Because the subtext of the question is you're asking me because you think I'm going to give you the answer that the Rams are now better than us? And that's why he's like, yeah, I guess it's over now.

6:10Rich Eisen:You want it? And that's beginning to resonate. You're going to start to hear this more in more and more places. You might not have been paying attention to the career of Mack Wilson Sr., a 2019 fifth-round draft choice now currently playing in Arizona. Alabama Crimson Tide fans know who he is. Maybe some SEC fans are aware of his pridefulness. But he resides in the division that Miles Garrett now occupies. A place in. Hit it. How do you feel about Miles? They got to deal with us. At the end of the day, they got to deal with us. Here it comes, guys. Wow. Here it comes. No, you're going to start hearing it.

6:59Rich Eisen:We're not right waving white flags here. They got a deal with us. And I'm just wondering if prior to October 18th, week six, Cardinals at Rams.

7:15Rich Eisen:That somebody in the Rams tape department might cut that one. But you can't blame him, right? You can't. What's he supposed to say? What is he supposed to, when you are asking other players that question, like I did to George Kittle, like I did to George Kittle just the other day, the subtext is I'm asking you because they're now officially better than you with Miles Garrett, right? that's the subtext anytime you ask another player in the nfl not on the los angeles rams about this question cooper cutt was in we've got a bunch of talented guys here kittle right i i i i purposely did set it up with him by asking him about his comeback okay he's uh hey you're coming back and I'm like, it's too bad your season's over.

8:14Rich Eisen:And this was his reaction. Just staring off into space like, all right, Rich, you're going there. It's too bad your season's over. You're coming back for good. Hey, you're setting yourself up for comeback player of the year, but that's all you're going to win, right? Yeah. That is the subtext to Garrett showing up for the Rams. And it's just only beginning now. I'm telling you there's going to be some fantastic sound bites that are coming in training camp and prior to games against the Rams. Certainly if they get off to a hot start. Certainly if they, you look at the Rams schedule and if they go to Melbourne, Melbourne, pardon me, Melbourne, Melbourne.

9:00Rich Eisen:I better get that straight because Hugh Jackman's on the show next week. Melbourne. and then they on monday night football teach jackson dart a lesson and then they go to denver and then they go to philly and then on monday night football in front of the whole country they beat the bills i mean that's a pretty and then they're five and oh walking into mac wilson's week by welcoming him into so far and maybe the cardinals are three and two i i get it All I'm saying is that if they get off on that zooming start, every time you face someone, like Garrett's coming, if Donald's there too, how are you going to beat them?

9:47Rich Eisen:And it's just a very prideful group of men in an NFL locker room. They don't want to hear it. And any time you ask them that question, it's infused with the subtext of you've got no shot so what's your reaction to having no shot it's common guys it's already happening i can't wait to watch this play out let's go to al in dallas all right albert you're nervous too what's going on in your neck of the woods al uh no i'm not nervous um i'm you know listen they played the worst game they've played They did 14 games, and they were still in it to the very end. They missed so many shots. They turned the ball over, and they got roughhoused.

10:34That's the thing that, to me, is disconcerting, is that they got roughhoused in their own house. They need to – you know, I don't want to see a Miami Heat-Nicks-style game where, you know, somebody's wrapped around the leg of a Lonzo – you know, of a Wemby, but they need to get a little – they need to act a little tougher. And I don't know, you know, what player needs to do that because what they're doing to Brunson is kicking his tuchus. And it really just is making him a little ineffective because I'm starting to see little flashbacks of turnovers and a little over-dribbling. I think maybe a little bit more Alvarado out there who shows a lot of chutzpah and can dribble a little bit.

11:20I don't know.

11:22Rich Eisen:Here's where you're getting at, Al. Here's what you're getting at here. let's chop it up is Alvarado instead of Brunson is not the answer but what Alvarado is doing but what Alvarado is being able to do whether it's his speed or his size is he's able to beat the Spurs off and their terrific perimeter guard play on defense he's able to beat them off the dribble more than pretty much anybody else like he's not getting trapped by two guys 40 feet away from the basket with the mid-court line as their backstop, right? Like he's able to beat them and potentially find a three-point shooter spotted up open because he's able to be so quick.

12:12Rich Eisen:The Spurs aren't able to close in on that guy. And the person who's closing in on that guy more often than not is Wembon Yama because all he's got to do is take two steps and stretch his arms out and he's defending him, right? so that's the Knicks on offense are getting into their sets with six to eight seconds to go on the 24 second clock and that puts a ton of pressure on them to make shots and all of that stuff yeah right they've been doing in the last 13 games so that I think that's what you're getting at here but you look at Brunson's final stat line I mean he had 32 points in game three after having all that foul trouble.

12:50Rich Eisen:He was just 11 to 25 from the floor. That's not efficient enough. Oh, and I'm not, listen, Jalen Brunson is the legend. He's the man. I'm not, but you just saw some of those troubling, yeah, I mean, you said it, getting trapped away from the ball, picking up the ball, the wrong guys having the ball. It was the first time we've seen it in 13 games. Boo-hoo, right? We got rich people problems. No pun intended, Richard. but you know it's like and I think they're going to go and what I like about what I love about Mike Brown as opposed to Tibbs is he seems to be a little more malleable a little bit more hey we're going to do this I'm going to make changes he already made a change you know early in the playoffs so I'm extremely confident extremely confident that we're going to see a much better performance and I mean San Antonio shut the lights out of the ball too by the way so let's not forget that And this is no slouch of a team.

13:47But I'm extremely confident. I would be shocked, shocked if there wasn't a much better performance. And the performance that they had, they almost won the game and still didn't play well. So I'm looking forward to it. Richard, I got to say this also before I go. I watched that Dan Patrick interview, that show. That is my new favorite interview show. So what an awesome thing that was. Thanks. You did a great job, and I can't wait to continue to watch the series.

14:19Rich Eisen:The Berman one's next. Oh, it's already out. You can catch that one. Mike Greenberg's next. And it's just a fun series, and it's chock full of memories and nostalgia and fun, good stories between people who— And we get to learn a lot about you and the person you're interviewing. Thanks, man. And look what's happened. I mean, you've risen from all that and become the success you are. So it's great. It's actually pretty inspirational. Thanks, man. And I'm not just sucking up to you. Appreciate it. No, if you are, I'll accept it. Thank you, Al. That's Alan Dallas. There he goes. There he goes. Just in game three, you know, Spurs shot the ball better.

14:59Rich Eisen:They shot 46 % from the floor. Nick shot 45%. They both shot 35 % from three. The Spurs made 12 threes. The Knicks made more threes, 13. And they were 0 for 9 in the fourth quarter. The Knicks took only three more threes. So it's not like the Knicks did, you know, with all due respect, like the Celtic thing, which is they took 50 and only made 13. Free throw shooting. Knicks shot 82 % from the line. Spurs shot 78 % from the line. They took 10 more free throws. Missed seven. And they made seven more free throws than the Knicks did. And one by four. I mean, you could keep going on and on and on here about the turnovers.

15:48Rich Eisen:Spurs turned it over eight times. Knicks, 13. And there were some really bad ones, too, where it's just like, you know, they were holding the beer of the Wemby hitting castle in the back of the jersey type turnovers. um so man i don't know you know i can't watch pregames for for games that just rile me up i just can't although inside the nba is an exception again i just keep on talking about you know when it's a michigan ohostic and less less less less person i just want to sit in front of the tv and say i wonder what urban thinks like that ain't happening i'd maybe tune in a halftime they're saying some wild stuff on that halftime show what especially last game well i know that he he told by the way charles charles is the best yeah he's talking about cardi cardi b uh-huh those were cardi's d's right it's uh you know yeah and and and he told dan today um because he was on dp show that he hopes that he gets fired because he's got six seven years left on a contract that they know he's not going to finish so he doesn't care but i will tell you this i would bet that that line you know even though it might be offensive to some that's charles so oh yeah he's like that's what that's why he does have six seven years left on his contract because he says stuff like the other one he told dan was uh one of the downsides is is to taking a glp you know that he's lost a lot of weight is that when he tells people to kiss his ass there's less of it

17:14Rich Eisen:just charles just be charles like that's that's what we want yeah i'm sure what espn wants it's great just be you man can't have sham it go one of eight from three yeah don't blame it on landry sham it well him and mikhail bridges were two for 13 yeah bridges not gonna get it the same way that game two is a bridges game game three you know there were there were some misses but you have to dude it's not you have to credit the spurs defense i'm not sure how many like if if if the Knicks are constantly starting their offensive sets with 10 seconds to go on the 24, eight seconds to go on the 24, six seconds to go on the 24.

17:55Rich Eisen:Spurs have won the possession. Well, that's what Al was saying, too. It's obviously noticeable the last game. Brunson dribbling too much. They need more ball movement. And so, you know, that would lead to Shamit getting a one for eight because I'm sure the looks aren't open. I'm sure they're rushed. Same thing with Bridges. You know, and then if the officials are just ignoring a mugging on 34th Street, you know, that doesn't help either. No. All right. 844-204-H-Number-Dial. I've got my power rankings coming up. My power rankings coming up with the best defenses in the national football league.

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21:47Rich Eisen:Back here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-RICH. number to dial um okay let's go to who's been waiting the longest here man um i'll i'll go with um tom and westchester new york's been hanging on for a while what's up tom what's going on how are you tom westchester new york what's going on i'm good i just um i wanted to do the giant schedule the win-loss game for the new york giants do you oh yeah all right here we go He says this like he's very excited about this. I wonder what's going to wind up here. The only other person has been Matthew in Connecticut who had the Giants go 12-5. Let's see how Tom and Westchester does here.

22:32Rich Eisen:Home for the Cowboys to start it off. I think that's a loss. Okay, TJ. He gets it. He gets it. Then you visit the Rams on a Monday night. That's probably a loss, too. Oh, that's 0-2 now. 0-2, home for the Titans. I think we win that one Alright, I went high register Home for the Cardinals Win 2-2 now at the Commanders I think that's a win also Alright, high register 3-2, home for the Saints Well, I actually called earlier in the year And I said the Giants would beat the Saints Which turned out to not be true So I'm going to double down So what are you going to do here? I'll say win Alright, that's four in a row now Going to the Texans Man, that's a loss.

23:20Rich Eisen:Four and three at the Eagles. That's week nine. That's coming off a bye. That's a loss. Okay. Yeah. You're now 500, four and four, hosting the Commanders on a short week Thursday night. Do you sweep them? No, I think we split because the Eagles are probably going to beat us pretty bad. Oh, man. Coming off a bye. You're now under 500. You're now four and five, hosting the Jaguars. That's probably a loss, too, honestly. Four and six at the Colts and Daniel Jones.

23:51Rich Eisen:we should win that one okay ending that four game losing streak you're now five and five five and six uh hosting the niners that's most likely a loss five and seven at the seahawks uh i think we need we need a miracle but that's probably a loss five and eight hosting the browns i think we'll beat the browns six and eight at the lions on a monday night I think the Lions beat us 6-9 at the Cowboys I actually think these last two games we might win because the Eagles and the Cowboys might rest their starters so we might have a chance there That's 8-9 Tom in Westchester says the first season of John Harbaugh with the Giants is an 8-9 campaign and hopefully we'll improve on that Thank you Tom Appreciate the call 8-9 Your thoughts?

24:49I think they should be happy with that. I think they'd sign for that.

24:54Rich Eisen:I don't think they would be signing for that or happy with that at all. Starting with 0-2, then get to 500 and get above 500 and then lose four in a row.