In short
Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show focuses on NFL Draft analysis with Sports Illustrated senior writer Albert Breer, including “no prototypes” at key positions, quarterback projections, and contract/extension implications for CJ Stroud and Will Anderson. It also discusses whether the Browns should trade Myles Garrett, plus Rich’s “Power Rankings” of his greatest sports moments.
Guests (and backgrounds)
Albert Breer, senior writer for Sports Illustrated, covers the NFL and draft. Earlier segments mention golf writer Alan Shipnuck (Masters book “Rory”) and basketball Hall of Famer Chris Webber, but the main draft interview is Breer.
Key claims
- This draft lacks clear “prototype” players at premium positions, making the top 10 less predictable.
- Non-premium-position stars (RB Jeremiah Love, LB Sonny Stiles, S Caleb Downs) may drive more uncertainty.
- Ty Simpson is likely a second-round QB due to a Brock Purdy-style profile; Fernando Mendoza has more “top-10” physical upside.
- Many teams are already looking toward the 2027 draft for quarterbacks and prototype edge/receiver/corner prospects.
- Texans may delay Stroud extension; Will Anderson’s deal could complicate Stroud’s market.
- Browns should consider trading Myles Garrett because the team’s quarterback timeline may not align with Garrett’s age window.
Notable examples
- Lions 2023 draft criticism: Jameer Gibbs and Jack Campbell at 12/18; later successes included Sam LaPorta and Brian Branch.
- Comparisons: Reese/Parsons ceiling; Mendoza comp to Jared Goff; Simpson comp to Brock Purdy.
- Contract market examples: Dak Prescott’s $60M; discussion of future QB deals potentially around $70M.
- Browns roster-building example: trading for additional first-round picks after aging out core pieces.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGuest Introduction: Albert Breer
1:27 to 2:33
Rich introduces Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated, discussing sports excitement.
“Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”
NFL Draft Insights
2:33 to 4:48
Albert Breer shares insights on the current NFL Draft landscape and strategies.
“I mean, I would say that maybe it means more to us now.”
Evaluating Draft Prototypes
4:48 to 8:07
Discussion on the lack of prototypes in this year's NFL draft and potential impacts.
“So that's Jeremiah Love, the Notre Dame running back, Sonny Stiles, the Ohio State linebacker, Caleb Downs, the Ohio State safety.”
Ty Simpson vs. Fernando Mendoza
8:07 to 11:43
A comparison of Ty Simpson and Fernando Mendoza's prospects for the NFL draft.
“Ty Simpson, does he have a restful sleep Thursday to Friday or staring at the ceiling wondering what happened?”
2027 Draft Prospects Loom
11:43 to 14:00
Discussion on how upcoming 2027 draft prospects are influencing current decisions.
“And I think Mendoza has got a better shot at that based on his physical ability than Simpson does.”
Teams Eyeing the 2027 Draft
14:00 to 14:50
Discussion on NFL teams preparing for the 2027 draft and key players.
“And by the way, in 27, you also have the prototypes of other positions.”
C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson's Future
14:50 to 16:30
Analysis of contract considerations for Stroud and Anderson in Houston.
“I'm wondering if there's any there there on a couple of things.”
Evaluating NFL Quarterback Contracts
16:30 to 19:10
Exploration of the evolving nature of quarterback contracts in the NFL.
“The CGA, I think that it feels to me like that's the likelihood that that happens, you know, but we'll see.”
Myles Garrett's Future in Cleveland
19:10 to 23:02
Discussion on Myles Garrett's situation with the Browns and potential trades.
“Baker Mayfield out there for us for half of the price?”
Trade Considerations for Myles Garrett
23:02 to 25:52
Evaluating the implications of trading Garrett based on team timelines.
“It was an acknowledgement that that group had aged out.”
Show all 20 chapters
Discussion on Addiction and Sensitivity
28:52 to 30:23
A caller shares thoughts on addiction sensitivity in sports culture.
“Hey, listen, I got to be serious with you for one second.”
Magic's Experience and Game Atmosphere
30:34 to 32:30
Caller Magic discusses the vibrant atmosphere at a Michigan game.
“Let's go to Magic in Champaign, Illinois, back here on the program.”
Rich's Power Rankings Introduction
32:31 to 32:50
Rich introduces his power rankings of significant sports moments.
“if you're coming from the environs in the Midwest than obviously Storrs, Connecticut.”
Power Rankings: Moments 10 to 9
32:51 to 33:59
Rich shares his ranking of memorable sports moments, starting with the Heisman pose.
“There are many like it, but this one is live!”
Power Rankings: Moments 8 to 7
34:00 to 35:58
Rich continues with his rankings, detailing the 2001 World Series and Michigan's past.
“And out of all of them, I chose this one because I'll never forget this.”
Power Rankings: Moments 6 to 5
35:59 to 37:59
Rich discusses significant Yankees and Michigan Wolverines moments in his rankings.
“And I'm lined up bottom of the 10th inning.”
Power Rankings: Moments 4 to 1
38:00 to 40:55
Rich concludes his rankings, highlighting his top sports moments including his 40-yard dash.
“Number six on this list of the best sporting moments of my life was November 26th, 1996, when the Yankees won their first World Series since 1978.”
Reflections on a Memorable Night
42:00 to 42:15
Discussion about past experiences and memorable nights.
Birthday Celebrations and Team Dynamics
45:15 to 48:28
Celebrating a team member's birthday and light-hearted banter.
“You know, guys, what were you doing on that night?”
Upcoming Show Announcements
48:28 to 48:51
Exciting announcements about show scheduling and programming.
“Happy birthday to the star of Mold School.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Albert Breer:If we knew more about our sleep, what would we do differently? Would we go to bed at a consistent time? Or take steps to reduce interruptions to our sleep? With Sleep Score, Apple Watch measures your bedtime consistency, interruptions, and sleep duration. Then, every morning it combines these factors into an easy-to-understand score from 1 to 100. So you'll know how to take the quality of your sleep from OK to Very High.
0:25Rich Eisen:Know your Sleep Score with Apple Watch. iPhone 11 or later required. Last night, you spent two hours deciding what to wear to the party. This morning, it'll take you two minutes to list it on Depop and make your money back. Just grab your phone, snap a few photos, and we'll take care of the rest. The sheer dress and platform heels you'll never wear again? There's a birthday girl searching for them right now. Your one-and-done look is about to pay for your next night out. Or at least the ride home. Your style can make you cash. Start selling on Depop, where taste recognizes taste. This is the Rich Eisen Show.
1:02Rich Eisen:Hey, everybody.
1:04Albert Breer:Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. And now, here comes Solaire.
1:33Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. They're going to start to fight. They're throwing blows. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. We got major differences here. Earlier on the show, long-time golf writer Alan Shipnock, basketball Hall of Famer Chris Webber. Coming up, senior writer for Sports Illustrated, Albert Breer. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Our three of the program had a fun first two hours. Alan Shipnuck from Augusta, Georgia, on the Masters in his new book, Rory, which I've got right here in my hand. And look who's on the cover. Unbelievable. It's Rory. Go figure. I don't know why I did that.
2:18Rich Eisen:Chris Weber, we just hung with C-Webb. And let's bring in a man who no doubt is very excited about the Big Ten dominance that we've seen in the sports world. I'm sure he's thrilled. He has to be. Albert Breer, back there from Sports Illustrated. Congratulations. Right? Congratulations. We're all Big Ten guys, right? We're a Big Ten guy.
2:37Albert Breer:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would say that maybe it means more to us now. That's it. I said the same. See, we're... Oh, again. So the phrase that you, Jamokes, made fun of one conference for... We didn't make fun of it.
2:50Rich Eisen:We were offended by it. We were offended by it. We didn't make fun of it. Now you've co-opted it? Yeah. That's how it's working? Because it's called irony, Chris.
2:57Albert Breer:Wow. Look it up. If it means more to them, if it means more to them, maybe they can start spending with us. Yeah, there you go. Look at us. You guys. Sad state of affairs. It's disgusting. Or it's the state of affairs. And you're sad. Chris, it's amazing what happens when all the spending is out in the open and not against the rules anymore, isn't it? It's kind of crazy the way that works.
3:18Rich Eisen:It just means above the table.
3:20Albert Breer:Just like gambling, college sports was better when it was all back alleys
3:24Rich Eisen:and behind closed doors. This guy. I agree. how are you albert good to see you i'm good you got parisian tan i like seeing it good to see it
3:32Albert Breer:congrats over there i would reckon honestly um i got warned to not bring my kids to france and um i am so glad i did it they had an awesome time and uh yeah what a what a great experience
3:45Rich Eisen:it was for everybody i'm so glad you got some much needed pto man you you work uh both can't Both ends of the candle all the time. And appreciate you taking our call here, top of hour three of this week. What's the story of the draft right now? What's the story of it?
4:02Albert Breer:I think, like, it's – I mean, I would say once you get past Fernando Mendoza, it's kind of how these guys are going to come off the board. And I think, like, one of, to me, the most interesting things is that you don't really have the prototypes, right? So, in other words, you don't have the Miles Garrett defensive end. You don't have the Patrick Sutan corner, Jalen Ramsey corner. You don't have the Joe Ault left tackle. You don't have the Julio Jones or A.J. Green or Calvin Johnson receiver, which I think is not great for you if you're picking in the top ten as one of those teams. But I think it actually is going to make for a more dramatic, less predictable first night of the draft because you're going to be looking at you're going to say okay at the premium positions right you know are you going to compromise a little bit on david bailey who's not as good against the run or arvel reese who you you have to have a plan for him right um the great tackles in this year's draft are right tackles not left tackles um you know the receivers are good there's depth there but it's not great at the top um you know so like you you kind of juxtapose that against maybe the best players in the draft are at non-premium positions.
5:24Albert Breer:So that's Jeremiah Love, the Notre Dame running back, Sonny Stiles, the Ohio State linebacker, Caleb Downs, the Ohio State safety. And so, you know, to me, like that's the most interesting thing is how I do think there's a little less certainty within the top 10 and more guys who could jump in or fall out of the top 10 as a result of all of this.
5:46Rich Eisen:Let me dovetail on that with a take that might be hot, Albert, which, you know, is not usually my lane, but you're like, we don't have prototypes in this draft. Yeah. And you could start with Fernando Mendoza is not like the Joe Burrow of quarterbacks first overall either. And Kirk Cousins being signed in Vegas to not hedge, but to provide the Raiders with the room to potentially groom and sit is is a signal that that that's the case at the top of this draft. he's the avatar of not the prototype but a really good player with a high ceiling that could be the draft the 2026 draft a lot of great players with some high ceilings right yeah i mean i would say
6:34Albert Breer:like for sure in that like we could be talking about arvel reese winding up being like micah parsons you just again you have to have a plan for it because he doesn't like really fit in the box of what you'd be looking for for a pass rusher you take that high but neither did parsons you you know, when he came out five years ago. You know, I think that ceiling exists with, again, the guys at the non-premium positions. Like Jeremiah Love is an exciting dynamite player, you know. You know, Sonny Stiles, Caleb Downs, same thing. Really good football players, high football IQ, all of that. And, you know, it's interesting.
7:12Albert Breer:I've juxtaposed this, like, with, like, all right, if you look at, like, the totality of the decisions these decisions these teams are going to make, right? I look at the Lions 2023 draft, and you remember, because you were sitting on that stage, they got crushed for taking a running back, Jameer Gibbs, and a linebacker, Jack Campbell, at 12 and 18, with their two first-round picks. And it was on the premise that these are just the best players. And Jameer Gibbs speaks for himself, speaks for himself what that's become, right? As a do-everything running back. and then you know jack campbell was first team all pro this year and then the second round they wind up with sam laporta a tight end and brian branch like a corner safety hybrid and those guys are really good players too and i think that's sort of the decision making for the teams up top now is do we just go with a really good player where we know what he's going to be and maybe he doesn't play again one of those premium positions but at least we have an idea that this guy can be a difference maker for us or do we roll the dice on the ceiling on some of the other guys and you know so again that's a guy like a Reese you know a Francis Maui Noah the tackle from Miami you know most people think he's strictly a right tackle but maybe he can be a really top end right tackle you know so I think in those circumstances you know you're looking at it and you're taking like the guys at the non-premium positions where you have a really good idea of what those guys are versus the guys at the premium positions where you're projecting a little bit more.
8:47Rich Eisen:15 days removed from the draft, Albert. Ty Simpson, does he have a restful sleep Thursday to Friday or staring at the ceiling wondering what happened? What do you think?
9:01Albert Breer:I would lean towards the latter right now. Okay. I just can't place him in the first round. And here's the thing. Like, I think the fascinating thing about him versus Mendoza is that you talk to enough people and they'll say, like, when you look at Simpson's tape, you'll see a lot of things that translate directly to the NFL that you don't see on Mendoza's tape. So what does that mean? Well, you know, with Mendoza, you know, at least the Indiana tape, the Cal tape's a little different. But the Indiana tape, what the people tell you is you'll see like a lot of RPOs. And because he has these great receivers around him, a lot of times things go according to plan.
9:41Albert Breer:So you don't see him having to, you know, go through progressions and see the whole field. And doesn't mean he can't do it. You just don't see it as much because he's throwing to Omar Cooper. He's probably going to be a first round pick. Elijah Surratt, who might be somewhere in the top 100. than Charlie Becker, who was a sophomore last year and will be back at Indiana, three NFL receivers. So if you're talking about what they've already put on tape, you may actually see a little bit more just projecting them to the NFL from Simpson than you from Mendoza. But that's not the job of the scout. The scout's job is not to look back at the last year and say, oh, well, who's accomplished more now?
10:22Albert Breer:It's to project where those guys are going forward. And Fernando Mendoza is 6 '5", 236 pounds, has a bigger arm, has more starts, which is a really important thing. So the comp I hear for Mendoza is Goff, where the comp I hear for Simpson is Brock Purdy. And then the question becomes, are you comfortable taking somebody with a Brock Purdy profile in the first round? And a lot of teams aren't. You know, and so I think like it's it's it's interesting because, you know, I would say like the Steelers are a team that some people have said like, oh, well, maybe they would do it. I don't think that's going to happen.
11:01Albert Breer:And I think part of that is they sort of made that decision, you know, that sort of decision to to gamble on somebody who didn't quite have the same physical traits as you normally see the first round quarterback and Kenny Pickett four years ago. and it didn't work out, you know? So my guess would be Ty Simpson for those reasons probably goes somewhere in the second round because I don't think people look at him and say, yeah, that guy projects to be one of the top 10 quarterbacks in football. Now, if you're comfortable taking a guy who might be somewhere closer, like maybe like, you know, he gets into the top 15 at some point, you know, then we'd be having a different discussion.
11:38Albert Breer:But I think most people when they're drafting one in the first round say, I want to have a guy who has a shot to get in the top 10 someday. And I think Mendoza has got a better shot at that based on his physical ability than Simpson does.
11:53Rich Eisen:So then let me follow up with a question I asked Todd McShay of The Ringer on Monday. And I'll ask of you now and everyone else from now until the draft that appears on this program. How much does 2027 loom over this draft?
12:07Albert Breer:I wish I had the names in front of me. I like I could pull them up. I like there are, I think, 12 of them, 11 or 12 of them. Wow. Who have a shot to go in the first round. Now, here's the difference. I want to make sure that I couch this the right way, because going into like at this point three years ago, right, when we were going into 2024. OK, so it was the spring of 23. At that point, we already knew Caleb Williams was probably a top five pick. We already knew that Drake May was a top five pick. And then you had other guys like, you know, again, you know the names, Jaden Daniels, Michael Penix, J.J.
12:47Albert Breer:McCarthy and Bo Nix play their way into that range. I think the difference is I don't know if there's anybody that's a lock, stock and barrel. Sure thing. The way that Caleb and Drake were going into the 23 season with the 27 guys now. But there are so many of them. You know what I mean? And again, you can just start to rattle them off. And, you know, Dante Moore is obviously the most accomplished of these guys and probably is the closest thing to a lock. Arch Manning, CJ Carr, Julian Sand, Nico Iomaliaba, Brendan Sorsby. I mean, the list just goes on and on and on and on. And, you know, I mean, for that reason, it's like, okay, like, well, all 12 aren't going to hit.
13:28Albert Breer:There aren't going to be 12 first-round quarterbacks. But when you have a bigger number that you're working with, if there's a better chance, the four or five of them are going to hit. And so I think that's sort of where we are with that. There's just a ton of names. And, you know, how that plays out, you know, we'll see in the fall. But, you know, I think there are plenty of teams that are looking at it and saying, in 27, there are going to be more options for us. So who are those teams? I'd say the Dolphins are kicking the can down the road till next year. We'll see what happens when Malik Willis, maybe he really hits.
13:58Albert Breer:If he doesn't, they'll be in position to draft one. The Browns, the Cardinals, the Jets, like there are just a big number of teams that are looking at it now and saying we're OK keeping our powder dry and looking towards 2027 based on what else is out there on the horizon. And by the way, in 27, you also have the prototypes of other positions. You know, Jeremiah Smith, the Ohio State receiver, you know, Leonard Moore, the Notre Dame corner, Colin Simmons at Texas and Dylan Stewart at South Carolina as your prototype edge rushers. So even if there isn't a great quarterback at the top of that draft, if you are picking high in that year's next year's draft, you might have a shot at one of those guys as well.
14:39Albert Breer:So there are a lot of teams that are already looking towards 27. And I think that does affect your decision making at some point to some degree at the quarterback position.
14:50Rich Eisen:A few minutes left here with Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated. I'm wondering if there's any there there on a couple of things. First of all, formality for C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson to get 50 or options picked up. But it's a time where somebody who drafted second overall wins offensive rookie of the year, makes the playoffs three straight years and wins a playoff game in all three straight years. That guy and someone like Stroud would be on target for an extension now.
15:20Albert Breer:Yeah.
15:21Rich Eisen:How is that happening? Or are the Texans willing to play this thing out to see a little more from?
15:26Albert Breer:Yeah, I think they explored after the draft. I don't know. And the thing that's difficult about this is how many escape hatches are the Texans going to give themselves? Are they going to explore it looking for a deal? Like looking for a discount because he didn't play well at the end of the year? That's the question. It's so different than the Will Anderson conversation, which I think does complicate this to some degree. Because Will Anderson, it's like, let's just hope it doesn't hurt too bad when we have to write that first check. You know, like I, I mean, Will Anderson can ask for 50 million now, I think, you know, and I think that that there's a chance that he gets there and becomes the first non quarterback to have that five in front of the average per year.
16:08Albert Breer:You know, with Stroud, it's more complicated. And when Stroud sees Will Anderson get whatever he's going to get, you know, then, you know, like, does that, you know, like become the floor when you look at the structure, the guarantees? Obviously, the numbers are bigger at quarterback, but, you know, like it could complicate it a little bit. So my guess would be Bryce Young plays on his plays, plays into the fourth year of his contract and is playing for a contract this fall. The CGA, I think that it feels to me like that's the likelihood that that happens, you know, but we'll see. The other thing is like the numbers have escalated to a point now, Rich, where, I mean, look, like Dak Prescott signed at 60.
16:52And that was, let me do the math in my head, was 17 months ago, 18 months ago, something like, no, 19 months ago.
17:01Albert Breer:So you account for all of that inflation, right? 60 million, 19 months ago, a quarterback, you know, I mean, I think next year you're going to be talking about Drake May and Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels potentially getting 70.
17:14Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, that's wild. But I mean, the contracts that I think that loom here are the ones for Tua and Kyler. You know, you got two teams. You got two teams that went ahead and gave and gave second contracts to guys who are now playing for league minimums elsewhere. And you are taking big, fat cap hits, you know, and you better be damn sure. Well, Brockman's looking for a franchise that's going to tell somebody with Stroud's resume and even results that are not in the championship realm, but are in the pretty damn good realm with, you know, an upside realm. He's looking for the first franchise to just let that guy walk and go back into the rookie pool and start again.
17:56Rich Eisen:You know, sort of the way that the Chiefs handle their cornerbacks. You know what I mean?
Read the full transcript
18:00Albert Breer:You know what's so interesting about that? What's so interesting about that to me is like you look at what Seattle is paying Darnold and what Tampa is paying Baker. It's half. You know what I mean? Like it's even Daniel Jones who like everybody's like, whoa, like look at that. Like an$88 million deal over two years. Like that's still less than 75 % the top of the market, you know? so like i think for some of these teams you you look at it and you say i because i think like the reason why that whole idea that you draft one high and then he plays for three years and then you extend him at the top of the market which has happened over and over and over and over again like if you draft one high in the first round it's almost like you're required to pay him at the top of the market and i think you know part of that is like the fear okay like what's behind door number two if we don't do this.
18:53Albert Breer:And now you see other teams finding solutions through the reclamation projects. Does that change the dynamic if you're Houston saying, well, like, let's give this another year. And if we've got to pay a little bit of a premium because he killed it, well, that's a good problem to have. And if he doesn't, well, like, is there going to be our version of Baker Mayfield out there for us for half of the price? You know, again, like Baker got signed at 33 million per year in an environment where Dak's getting 60. I mean, would you rather have Baker at 33 or Tua at 55? I mean, that's not even a question anymore, you know?
19:30Albert Breer:So you're right. Like, and I think that teams are going to look at this a little bit differently now because that idea of the reclamation project is at least out there where if you're not totally sure on your quarterback, it's not like, I mean again it's not like there's doom and gloom behind door number two we've seen teams um you know come off of come out of these situations where it didn't work with a quarterback and you know and and for one reason or another and then they were able to go out in
20:01Rich Eisen:the veteran market and find a solution and the other one I wanted to ask you about is there any there there is why is Miles Garrett not in Cleveland with Todd Monk and opening up for business?
20:14Albert Breer:Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, I think like the optics of it aren't great for for Munkin, but like I again, like I try to remind people this time of year, like what they're actually doing, which is lifting and meeting, you know, if the quarterback's not there, that can be an issue because beyond just the symbolism of it, like you want your quarterback in-house because how he plays is going to affect so many other people in the building, you know, and not just in the way that a quarterback helps you win games, like it's legitimately going to affect your, the other 10 guys in the offensive huddle's ability to do their jobs.
20:51Albert Breer:The first two weeks of the off-season program, again, they're lifting and meeting. If he's not there until the mandatory mini camp in June, I think we're talking about something else. And I, by the way, I'm on the record with having said that the Browns should explore trading Myles Carrot. um but you know like i i wouldn't i wouldn't sound the alarm quite yet like miles has already always sort of uh marsh the beat of his own drummer and i i just have a hard time crushing
21:21Rich Eisen:a guy i don't think it's ideal oh i'm not crushing him he has he has every right at this part of his career to say meetings lifting whatever um but the only reason why i'm connecting the dots here I mean, we're asking the question is, is the dot connection of the moving around of a bonus towards the end of the summer. And, you know, Andrew Berry did say at the owner's meeting, that that's just don't, don't pay attention to that. It's just moving stuff around, right? There's nothing there. He's a, he's a career Brown. And at the same time, they're also trying to institute a rule where, you know, you can get up to five first round draft picks in a trade.
22:00Rich Eisen:And everyone's looking at that to say that the Browns wanted to, you know, end up trading away, trading away their draft picks for somebody as opposed to, well, we could trade somebody away who could actually get close to that. We have that guy. So why not institute this rule where we can maximize our results? You know, I mean, it did. There just seems to be a little bit too many things out there. I mean, there are two pushpins on the wall. I don't know if I'm not that guy like Charlie Day, you know, attaching it all with red string here.
22:30Albert Breer:yeah but um i you know no i look look look here's the beauty of it because of all the things you said they don't have to shop them someone's interested they're gonna call right why not right like why not pick up the phone and call based on all the things that you just laid out um do you want me to explain why i think they should trade them yes i think they should trade them because i don't think the timelines match up anymore if you look at it and you say like there's a good chance that the quarterback of the future isn't going to be on the roster until 2027, right? So let's just say that that's the case.
23:06Albert Breer:And you look at like what they did last year in trading the Travis Hunter pick, which was, I think, basically an acknowledgement that the core that they had built around and guys, you know, like that are gone now, like Wyatt Teller and Joel Batonio that were there forever, Nick Chubb, you know, and then you still have a couple those guys left and Ward and Garrett. It was an acknowledgement that that group had aged out. So we need more young talent across our roster. One guy isn't going to do it. So they trade down and they wind up like really putting together a nice draft class with Mason Graham, with the defensive rookie of the year, Carson Swessinger, with Harold Fannin, with Quinshawn Judkins, with Dylan Sampson, really good group.
23:49Albert Breer:They take a couple of quarterbacks. We'll see what happens with Shadour in the fall. and now they have two first round picks again. And so everything's building now towards potentially taking a quarterback in 27 and maybe having a really nice group of young players around him. So like, let's just say you have a rookie quarterback there in 27 and you say, when we're really going to hit it with this group, when it's really going to come together with this group, with the 25 rookies, the 26 rookies, and then your quarterback in 27 is in 28. At that point, Myles Garrett is 32 years old and going to turn 33 during the season.
24:28Albert Breer:And so the timelines to me don't match up. So would you rather have Myles Garrett there chasing a championship at the end of his career? Maybe he's not the same as he was. Or would you take three first round picks for him right now to supercharge everything that I was just talking about? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I mean, I look at it like, I mean, you could really be cooking with gas if you were the Browns with, you know, a bunch more first round picks now. And yes, you have to hit on the picks. And I hate giving away a great player. Miles Garrett's going to the Hall of Fame. But I just think I just don't know that the team's timeline matches up with his timeline anymore.
25:14Rich Eisen:Certainly, if Will Anderson, you just said, could be the first$50 million a year non-quarterback. And if he's that, then why wouldn't Garrett say, hello? You know what I mean? Like, you're going to have to readjust his contract, too. And in all honesty, just to be respectful of Miles Garrett, name me another non-quarterback that you could say you get three first-round picks for and nobody laughs at you. Right. I mean, like, there's not another one in the NFL.
25:44Albert Breer:At his age, too. And at 30 years old. Yeah.
25:50Rich Eisen:There was no hint of irony or tongue in cheek and what you had to say there. I mean, that is. Yeah, that's a fact. Albert, thanks for the time, brother. You got it. You got it. Thanks again.
25:59Albert Breer:I hope you I know you're I know you're having a great week. I hope it continues for you. Enjoy.
26:04Rich Eisen:I can get much better. Thanks again. Just means more. Thank you. That's it. It doesn't mean more to me. That's true. Good for you guys. Yeah, it's great. There you go. Albert Breer out the door, everybody. All right. That was great stuff. He gave me one thing, food for thought. I want to hit on that when we come back. Also, my power rankings of the greatest sports moments of my life. One of them just happened this week. My life. The Rich Eisen Show Podcast.
26:37Rich Eisen:Rich Eisen here. Every time I travel for a major sports moment, whether it's a playoff run or a huge primetime matchup, I see firsthand what happens to a city. Hotels fill up fast. energy builds. Everyone wants to be part of it. Now imagine that on a global scale. The FIFA World Cup is coming this summer, people, and with it, thousands of fans traveling to host cities across the country. If you happen to live in one of those cities and you're planning to be away, maybe you've got your own summer trip lined up, this could be a practical opportunity. While you're gone, you could list your space on Airbnb and welcome traveling fans who want to experience the FIFA World Cup in person.
27:16Rich Eisen:You're not changing your routine. You're not committing to anything year round. You're simply making the most of a moment when your city is in the global spotlight. I know when I'm on the road for a huge event, having a comfortable home base makes all the difference. And that's what fans will be searching for. If you've ever thought about listing your space, this summer is a great time as we welcome FIFA World Cup fans. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at airbnb.com slash host.
27:48Rich Eisen:Check engine, ABS, or maintenance light on. Take the guesswork out of your warning lights with O 'Reilly Veriscan. The service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by ASE certified master technicians. And if you need help, we could recommend a shot for you. Ask for O 'Reilly Veriscan today.
28:08Albert Breer:Oh, oh, oh, O 'Reilly. Auto Parts.
28:18Rich Eisen:In a world in need of a hero, one man rises to the challenge in style. He is just driving the kids to soccer practice. Make every day feel epic in an all-new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid with up to an EPA-estimated 619 miles of range on select trims, advanced tech, and class-leading interior space. Because when you're hauling kids' gear, snacks, and backpacks, space matters. And so does comfort. Just make sure they keep their cleats off the seats. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 562-314-4603 for details.
28:51Rich Eisen:Back here on the Rich Eisen Show. Let's take a couple phone calls here. Jeffrey in San Francisco. What's up, Jeffrey? Hold on for a while.
29:00Albert Breer:Hey, Rich Eisen. How you doing, dude?
29:01Rich Eisen:What's going on, man?
29:03Albert Breer:Hey, listen, I got to be serious with you for one second.
29:06Rich Eisen:I hate being serious, but you know, sometimes. Go for it. Is this a landstorm? Listen, I enjoyed that interview with the author of the Rory book. Yes, you're talking about Alan Shipnuck, the golf author. Yes, sir.
29:18Albert Breer:So in my former life, you know, I used to be a pharmacist. Political pharmacist.
29:25Rich Eisen:I get irritated when I hear, you know, addiction stuff that's not quite where it should be. But I'm thinking, when I heard Alan use that phrase, he gets himself into these situations. That's not how addiction works. You know, and I'm saying we need to be a little more sensitive. But when I see those T-shirts in Augusta, those tiger T-shirts, that really irritates me. Listen, you know, Jeffrey, I understand we're, you know, not being experts on addiction. And, you know, opioids is a serious business. And I understand there's different types of addictions in different ways that people can react to it.
30:05Rich Eisen:And, you know, I appreciate it. And I understand that. And, you know, I appreciate the call to Jeffrey, because it is it's such a different it's such a difficult subject matter with Tiger. I, you know, he has gone to apparently go address it. And I hope he does because, you know, he's fortunate to be able to address it and then come out and not be in jail because he has not taken somebody else out with him. Lucky about that. Let's go to Magic in Champaign, Illinois, back here on the program. Magic, I appreciate you calling back. What's going on?
30:41Albert Breer:Hey, what's going on, Ari?
30:42Rich Eisen:How you doing, man? Ari as well. How are you, Magic? That's a first. Look at us. Look at us, right? Look at us. Look at us. I'm doing good. I'm doing great, man. And after Monday night, we're doing great. Leaders and best. Hail to us. Yep. Right there in Champaign, Illinois. Right there in the home of the Fighting Illini. Are you talking? Are you talking? You just keeping on the download? But are you saying it with your chest amongst folks there in Champaign? And I'm glad you said that, home of Champaign and Fighting Illini, because I just had lunch at this barbecue place and ran into the Illinois assistant coach.
31:20Okay.
31:20Rich Eisen:One of the Illinois assistant coaches. So Kevin Kruger. Okay. Lon Kruger's son. Lon Kruger's son. Kevin Kruger. So I got on my Michigan gear. I got on my Michigan fat, you know, million-dollar chain. Coming in the restaurant, I say, ah, Kevin, what's up, man? I know Kevin from back in the day when his father was coaching here, and he was playing basketball for Centennial High School. So him and his lovely wife are there. We're sitting down, and I'm just talking to them, and we have a long conversation about basketball life and coaching and everything like that. So isn't it ironic that I run into a champagne?
31:59Rich Eisen:It's like rain on your wedding day. You know what I mean? Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. I just went to Linus Morissette with Magic in Champaign, Illinois. Thank you very much, Magic. There you go, Magic. Hey, hey, R.E., listen, listen. Monday, great crowd. I mean, it was 70 ,000 people there. 65 ,000 was us Maize and Blue fans there. So a great showing, a great game, great atmosphere. I mean, it was a great time Monday night, man. I wish you could have been there. Me too, Magic. I appreciate that. Thank you for the call. And listen, it was much more geographically sound to be in Indianapolis if you're coming from the environs in the Midwest than obviously Storrs, Connecticut.
32:40Rich Eisen:I've got a power rankings, everybody, based off of what just happened Monday night. Power Rankings of the Greatest Sports Moments of My Life. I hope you're interested because it's presented by SoFi. Hit it. I have a power! This is my power rankings! There are many like it, but this one is live!
33:00Albert Breer:Power Rankings!
33:01Rich Eisen:All right. You're going to notice a theme here. I'll just say right in front, there's no Jets moments here.
33:10Albert Breer:Oh, come on.
33:11Rich Eisen:Come on, Rich. Not when you've got these other ones. I couldn't find a place for one. Just simply could not. Number 10 on the list is the moment on November 23rd, 1991. I'm out of college by about a year now, and I'm sitting at home. It's Michigan versus Ohio State, and Desmond Howard runs a 93-yard punt return to the house and strikes the famed Heisman pose. That's number 10? Number 10 on the list. Famed Heisman pose as Michigan beat the Ohio State about the face, head, chest, and neck area. 31-3 being the final score. Desmond Dow Howard's Heisman pose was just outstanding. That seems low. Well, I mean, listen to the list.
33:57Rich Eisen:Number 9 on the list is the only Knickerbocker moment on it. And out of all of them, I chose this one because I'll never forget this. as a 15-year-old kid. On January 31st, 1984, Bernard King shot 20 of 30 from the field, 10 of 10 from the free throw line and scoring 50 against the Dallas Mavericks. And then the next night goes to Dallas and scores 50 points again. Bernard King's back-to-back 50-point game, first time it had been pulled off since Wilt Chamberlain did it in 1964. and I looked it up. Bernard took zero three-point shots. They were all twos. Bernard didn't take... Bernard, in this 83-84 season, only took four three-point shots, and he missed them all.
34:51Rich Eisen:That wasn't his game. I'll never forget that. Wow. That's when I was beginning to love the Knicks and seeing what the Knicks could be like with Bernard King. That's number nine on the list for me. Number eight on the list. This is a big professional moment. For me, game four of the 2001 World Series, Diamondbacks-Yankees. The Diamondbacks scored two in the top of the eighth to take a 3-1 lead. And the entire media trying to get ready to go out on the field to do interviews after the game. There was only two tunnels in the old Yankee Stadium. You could choose the tunnel of the visiting dugout or the home dugout.
35:34Rich Eisen:What we had to do was choose the visiting or home tunnel based on who was going to win the game, because the other tunnel would be used by who was losing it to get back to their clubhouses. So as soon as the bottom of the ninth hit, we were in the tunnel of the Arizona Diamondbacks, because the Yankee tunnel needed to be clear for them to have a walk-off loss and go back to their clubhouse. but Tino Martinez hit a two run shot off of Byung-Hyung Kim and then that was the way that we were then running back to the Yankee tunnel after staying put in the top of the 10th inning for the Arizona Diamondbacks tunnel we were running back and forth tunnel to tunnel to get ready to run out on the field whoever could walk it off and it was like the Benny Hill show If you remember that, it was running with me with a microphone and someone with a camera and someone with a boom mic and a cop and a firefighter and first responders just going back and forth.
36:38Rich Eisen:And I'm lined up bottom of the 10th inning. And all I could see was this small television set in some little room off of the Yankee tunnel. And I saw what I thought was a home run. and I heard a rumbling and somebody screaming, run, run, run, go on out. It's over. Derek Jeter just hit a home run and I get pushed out on a Yankee Stadium field and I looked up and I saw this. I'm getting goosebumps. I saw Jeter pumping his fist and I saw him rounding third and I looked up at the cheap seats that I grew up in and saw people going nuts and he became the first ever Mr. November and I was on the field.
37:20That's cool.
37:21Rich Eisen:That's number eight. number seven on the list was the 1997 michigan wolverines team that won it all but only got half because somebody in the uh what i guess the coaches side of things wanted to give uh tom osborne a gold watch and retiring i think we would have beaten the crap out of that nebraska team that year but that's something that will never ever get decided hall of famers galore on that michigan team including a backup quarterback named tom brady um but um i'll never forget that Michigan winning a national championship in football, but it got a little bit taken away because it was only the Associated Press that said we were the champs.
37:59Rich Eisen:The coaches said Nebraska was the champs. That'll be an argument forever. Number six on this list of the best sporting moments of my life was November 26th, 1996, when the Yankees won their first World Series since 1978. The 1996 World Series, the Yankees did not have the better team. Well, I had the better team. They might not have had a better roster against that Braves team that had that incredible pitching lineup. The Yankees beat Greg Maddox in Game 6. After going down 0-2, they won four in a row, including all three in Fulton County, and then this one in Yankee Stadium that night. I was sitting there at my desk at SportsCenter, wishing I was there.
38:42Rich Eisen:Couldn't be there. Had to do SportsCenter. I remember that. Small violin right there. But 1996 World Series Yankees winning. Here's my top five greatest sports moments of my life. Number five is what just happened. Number five. Number five is what just happened. The 2026 Michigan Wolverine tournament run. I think they're the best Michigan basketball team I've ever seen. But that's number five on the list. Number four on the list is my top baseball moment. Not the 86 Mets. 86 Mets? 86 Mets. No, my top baseball moment. I understand all this Yankee stuff is bothering you, but too bad.
39:23Albert Breer:I don't dislike. Oh, four. Right. Oh, four.
39:25Rich Eisen:No. No, no, no. It was the night Reggie had three home runs. Oh, that's a good one. How is that not number one? I was eight. I was eight years old. I know. Reginald Martinez Jackson. That was pretty good. My guy. Number three on the list is the 89 Wolverines cutting down the nets. Because I was in school. Oh, yeah. I was in school. I was on campus. As you know, closing the Michigan Daily newspaper. I was a student on campus. Did you and Ramil have any classes together? We did not, sir. Running to each other in the halls of academia. Fantastic team. Good one. So good. Number two on the list is Team 144, the Michigan Wolverines, winning the national championship just a couple of years ago as an undefeated team.
40:16Rich Eisen:also just me taking it in the chops in the shorts for all those years sitting on the set on the show the fact that I could be here with you guys in front of this microphone and seeing Jim Harbaugh the quarterback my first quarterback when I was a freshman at Michigan do what he did and win in football and be undefeated that's my second greatest sports moment of my life number one on my power rankings the greatest sports moment of my life is in fact from 2016 when I ran a 5.94 40-yard dash in a suit. This could be the pinnacle, guys. This could be, but you never know. Okay, that's good. You never know.
40:58Rich Eisen:That's good. It's my own physical achievement. That's good. 5.94 40-yard dash in a suit at the NFL scouting combine. And Mark, I will try to beat this Saturday when I do my charity run at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee. I'm going to that remarkable place on planet Earth on Memphis to run my 40 on campus there at the hospital. And we'll show you the results of that. Maybe I'll have a new number one. Oh, and that's my greatest sports moment of my life presented by SoFi. Get your money right. Okay. Little old Henry-like twist. I can't believe you put 89 in front of this.
41:46Rich Eisen:I was on campus, Mike. I know. I get it. But it's like. Mike, I was a 20-year-old on campus. I get it. Wild and out. Yeah. You did the 98 Yankees you didn't put anywhere? I mean, it was great. It was great. But at that point in time, you know. We already had a call. You know what I mean? The first one. I hadn't seen one since 1978. I hadn't seen one since I was nine. I get it. I get it. Remember that team in 96? It's unbelievable. Yeah, I had a great night that night. I'll tell you about it later. Let's take a break. We're back here on The Rich Eisen Show in just a moment.
42:23Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
42:30Rich Eisen:Rich Eisen here. The April 15th tax deadline is coming fast, but don't worry. Hand off your taxes to a TurboTax expert today. You know how April feels. Everything speeds up. Games matter. More hoops and hockey schedules tighten. Your phone won't stop buzzing. And somewhere in the middle of it all, there's that quiet little reminder. Taxes. You'll get to it tonight or tomorrow or after the weekend. And if you handle it the old way, you're refreshing your inbox like it's breaking news. Waiting. Wondering. Hoping everything's squared away. That's a lot of mental bandwidth. With Intuit TurboTax Expert full service, you can match with a dedicated expert who understands your specific tax situation and handles your taxes for you, start to finish.
43:12Rich Eisen:You can do it all online or meet in person at one of their new tech-enabled store locations, have your tax forms imported directly into the app, and hand everything off to your TurboTax expert. While they work to get you every dollar you deserve, you can go about your normal routine, giving you time back to focus on what actually deserves your attention, like rooting for your team to make the playoffs. April 15th is not waiting, people. Visit TurboTax.com and hand off your taxes to a TurboTax expert today. You're sitting at a red light or stuck in traffic and your phone lights up.
43:48Albert Breer:Maybe it's a text, a video call, a new post, or a quick notification you think you can check in a second.
43:55Rich Eisen:It feels harmless, but the truth is, once your eyes leave the road, you're not really driving anymore, and traffic doesn't pause just because you do.
44:05Albert Breer:That split second of distraction can throw off everything. Your reaction time, your awareness, your ability to avoid someone else's mistake.
44:16Rich Eisen:You could damage your car, injure yourself, or hurt someone you care about. Or you could get pulled over for a reminder that your phone isn't worth the risk.
44:26Albert Breer:So before you start driving, make it easy on yourself. Put your phone on silent. Toss it in the glove box. Set it to do not disturb. Put the phone away or pay. Paid for by NHTSA.
44:44Rich Eisen:Back on the Rich Eisen Show radio and TV. For small businesses, every hire counts and so does your time. Hiring can quickly become overwhelming from sorting applications to figuring out who's truly qualified. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro helps. It streamlines the process so you can focus on connecting with the right candidates and not managing the noise. Hire right the first time. post your first job and get$100 off towards your job post at LinkedIn.com slash Eisen. That's LinkedIn.com slash Eisen. Terms and conditions apply. Okay. You know, guys, what were you doing on that night? The big night of the Yankees World Series.
45:28Rich Eisen:We've got a birthday in the house today. Who's is it? Jason Feller. Hey!
45:35Albert Breer:Feller's birthday! Hey.
45:36Rich Eisen:Is he here? Is he here? Why are you doing here on your birthday when you don't have to be here? Or he got to work for his. Well, he's part of NCW. Oh, I see. Yeah. Oh, you're tapping out. No, I'm here. We got work to do. Okay. Happy birthday. Thank you. How old are you? 41. 41. The baby of the Rich Eisenhower, unless you're younger. He got me about two years, I think. Do you know I could check the records? But then this bit would be over. I don't want to blow up the bed. We don't want to go. I'm still in my 40s. That's true. You're mid-40s, right? What are you, 45? 45, yeah. Okay. I look great.
46:12Rich Eisen:You do? Wait a second. Now, Del Tuvo said earlier he thought he looked great and you said that was a lie. You do look great, Mike. And you just come out and just say I look great.
46:21Albert Breer:I'm the same age as I was 40 years ago. I'm just saying. Why did I say that? I don't age. I'm the same age. I literally still feel like I'm. So you felt 60 when you were 20? No. He feels 20 when he's 60.
46:36Rich Eisen:This is typical Del Tufo. I don't know what he's saying. How do we go from wishing Feller a happy birthday to talking about Del Tufo again?
46:44Albert Breer:Narcissist. That's how. I am not a narcissist.
46:47Rich Eisen:This isn't even about you. It's about Feller. We just alienated Feller on his birthday. He's walked away. Come over here, Jim. Feller loves me. What does somebody give an audio expert slash mold remediator for a birthday? That's a great question. You know what I mean? Great question. What do you give somebody who's just a tight, who straddles the worlds of audio and mold? I know when he was a kid, he used to like Tonka trucks and stuff, so maybe we'd get him that or a tank. Tonka trucks. How do you know what he liked as a kid? We talk a lot. Yeah, come on. We have more than surface-level conversations.
47:22Albert Breer:TJ's actually Feli's godfather.
47:24Rich Eisen:Wait a minute. Another one. Godfather to everybody. Well, me and his uncle are like this now, and I think his uncle may have approved of that. So, yeah. TJ's a good godfather. I'm one of the best at that. Are you really? It goes me, then Don Vito, then Michael. So at a celebration, you're in your office taking requests. Michael kills the father of his... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Spoiler alert. There's some people who don't know what's going on. I know these movies have been out since you were 20. Good job. Wow. See? What? That would make him... Actually, no, it's actually been out since he was 10.
48:01Rich Eisen:Oh, my God. I know, Mike. But you look great. You look great, Mike. You look great. I've never seen somebody look so youthful hopping from bandwagon to bandwagon like you do, man. Go Dodgers. Never. Where's O'Shea? I mean, see, I get abused without O'Shea here. Hey, you know what we are tomorrow for the first time ever? And I'll say it again tomorrow. Masters counter-programming. That's never happened in the history of the Rich Eisenhower. We're on ESPN2 tomorrow. Let's go. So it's a new tradition unlike any other. I love it. I love it. Okay, and it starts tomorrow. Let's go. Mold School, everybody.
48:36Rich Eisen:Happy birthday to the star of Mold School. I was at this club in Pittsburgh. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney Plus, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.
49:01Rich Eisen:From 30 for 30 podcasts.
49:11Albert Breer:Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami. Gunned down. The key to this case, it's Brian. Boy, he ripped it. An hour before he died, he was on the phone arguing with somebody. This might be a hit. You want the truth. They just want a conviction. Being placed under arrest. We had a killer amongst us.
49:29Rich Eisen:Murder at the U. Listen now.
From the publisher
Sports Illustrated/The MMQB’s Albert Breer and Rich discuss the intrigue surrounding how the top of the NFL Draft could unfold after the Raiders select (presumably) Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza #1 overall, if Alabama QB Ty Simpson will be a 1st or 2nd-round pick, why teams are salivating already over a loaded 2027 draft class, if the Houston Texans could extend CJ Stroud before the 2026 season, and why the Cleveland Browns would be wise trade reigning Defensive Player of the Year Myles Garrett.
Rich power ranks the greatest moments of his life as a fan of the New York Yankees, Knicks and Michigan Wolverines with apologies to the Jets for their snub in advance.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
