Hour 3: Rich’s Top 5 NFL Sleeper Teams, plus Seth Rollins Talks WWE SummerSlam

31 Jul 2026 · 47 min · 16 chapters

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In short

Rich Eisen’s third hour focuses on NFL sleeper teams (Rich’s top 5) and then pivots to WWE SummerSlam with Seth Rollins as guest.

Guests (backgrounds)

  • Seth Rollins: WWE superstar; former Shield member; current top-tier performer.
  • Albert Breer: ESPN NFL senior writer (appeared earlier in the show).
  • Jason McCourty: ESPN NFL analyst (appeared earlier; joined via Zoom).

Key claims

  • Rich’s “sleeper teams” are non-playoff teams expected to make the playoffs; he argues they can win the Super Bowl.
  • He picks the Cincinnati Bengals as his #1 sleeper, saying they can win the AFC and the Super Bowl despite Shamar Stewart’s injury (hyperextension).
  • He also picks the Vikings as a sleeper led by J.J. McCarthy.

Notable examples (Rich’s top 5)

  • 5 Cleveland Browns (drafted “studs,” needs quality QB play).
  • 4 New Orleans Saints (Olave paid; Kamara/Etienne tandem potential; defense to improve).
  • 3 New York Jets (Baldwin/Salah coaching theme; “bald and beautiful” joke).
  • 2 New York Giants (tough schedule; John Harbaugh arrival; strong defense).
  • 1 Cincinnati Bengals (Joe Burrow, “short field” offense; playoff run to SoFi).

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Chapters

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NFL Team Dynamics and Expectations

1:27 to 2:35

Discussion on NFL teams, coaching dynamics, and media narratives.

“So many phone calls to take in the third hour.”

Liam Cohen on Jaguars' Expectations

2:35 to 4:02

Rich discusses Liam Cohen's comments on the Jaguars and NFL narratives.

“Well, what helps there is in that regard is the Rams got Miles Garrett and might get Aaron Donald back.”

Coaching Perspectives on Team Performance

4:02 to 8:00

Rich reflects on coaches' perspectives regarding team performance and media narratives.

“You know what I said to the staff the other day?”

Historical Insights and Fan Perspectives

8:00 to 10:46

Call with Jack, a longtime Bears fan, sharing his experiences and insights.

“And I'm thinking to myself, I never said that.”

Rich's Top 5 NFL Sleeper Teams

10:46 to 20:18

Rich reveals his top five NFL sleeper teams and discusses their potential.

“that the Bears are going to regress this year.”

Rich's Top 5 NFL Sleeper Teams

20:28 to 21:18

Rich reveals his top five NFL sleeper teams and discusses their potential.

“But before that, Seth Rollins is back on the show, but this time as a guest in support of SummerSlam.”

Seth Rollins Discusses WWE SummerSlam

22:44 to 23:18

Seth Rollins talks about his upcoming match at SummerSlam and his history with Roman Reigns.

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Seth Rollins Discusses WWE SummerSlam

23:22 to 28:00

Seth Rollins talks about his upcoming match at SummerSlam and his history with Roman Reigns.

“Now he's back, if you will, a bit in his lane.”

Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns: A Long History

28:00 to 28:59

Explore the storied rivalry and shared history between Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns as they prepare for their upcoming match.

“He came in as part of the Shield, one of the most dominant factions in the history of WWE.”

Anticipation for SummerSlam Matches

29:00 to 30:01

Seth discusses key matches at SummerSlam that he's looking forward to, highlighting Nick Aldis and Chad Gable's story arcs.

“I think one of the big ones, and I mentioned this on another interview earlier this week, is Nick Aldis, who is the SmackDown general manager.”
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The Emotional Stakes of Hometown Matches

30:02 to 30:59

Delve into the emotional dynamics of wrestlers competing in their hometowns and the added pressure they face.

“from Grande Americano to his injury to coming back as Grande.”

Rich's Dual Support for Seth and Roman

31:00 to 32:57

Rich shares his nuanced perspective on supporting both Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns amid their rivalry.

“This in particular, because it's one sport, two teams.”

Behind the Scenes: Wrestler Rivalries

32:58 to 34:59

Insight into the backstage dynamics and rivalries in WWE, including a light-hearted exchange about Seth and Roman.

“You're going to need Seth Rollins to do that for you.”

Reflecting on the Special SummerSlam Moments

35:00 to 37:19

Rich and Seth reflect on special moments in their careers and the significance of personal connections in wrestling.

“Listen, O'Shea is so over the top in his love for Roman on no contest.”

Listener Calls and NFL Insights

39:27 to 42:00

Rich interacts with listeners, discussing their thoughts on NFL teams and upcoming matches.

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Episode Discussion

42:00 to 47:20
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1:00Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash richeisenshow and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. If you've waited this long This is the Rich Eisen Show To take care of your franchise quarterback That's too bad Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Earlier on the show Senior writer for the MMQB Albert Breer ESPN NFL analyst Jason McCourty Coming up WWE superstar Seth Rollins And now It's Rich Eisen Oh, baby.

2:00Rich Eisen:So many phone calls to take in the third hour. We'll do our best to get to them. Seth Rollins joins us in the middle of this hour. We've already gotten what's more likely in the books. Albert Breer and Jason McCourty. Breer in person. McCourty on Zoom. If you missed it, all three hours of this show on Disney Plus as soon as we're done. All three hours of this show also available on our podcast. RichEisenShow.com is a great way for you to follow everything as well youtube.com slash rich eyes and show this rich eyes and shop.com we have a whole new store of all sorts of gear this mug so many other things are available right now at rich eyes and shop.com as well we'll be talking more and more about it del tufo you got that you got the running man lid on right now right look at you that is great look at you i appreciate you uh showing off the gear uh wear that on the link shop.com uh 844-204 rich number to dial we'll get to that uh in just a moment so one would say that we learned from liam cone last year that you don't come at him without expecting the horns back okay he's gonna bite back right remember him and robert sala on the field yeah okay that that wasn't all that great for everybody um but he's got some he says it with his chest he's very braggadocious yeah and then the jaguars backed it up by uh winning the division and you know crushing it um they didn't unfortunately for them win a playoff game but um jason mccordy in hour number two when i asked him there's a difference between teams we're not talking about and sleeper teams which i'm going to get to in a second right you know teams that are overlooked are different from teams that are that we're sleeping on we don't talk about Seattle and they won the whole thing.

3:53Rich Eisen:That's one of them too. Well, what helps there is in that regard is the Rams got Miles Garrett and might get Aaron Donald back. But Liam Cohen had this to say and 1010XL radio hit it. You know what I said to the staff the other day? I go, guys, this is the best part of coaching the Jacksonville Jaguars. You don't have to make up telling your players stuff. You don't have to make up the fire. You don't have to make it up. It's given to us every day. And it's like a welcome. It's a gift from the heavens. You just scroll. I just go, pull out my phone, look at the NFL Network website, and just pop up here.

4:34Any column. I'm curious if I see any photos or anything about the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think I'll just scroll right on through. You keep going, yeah. I think I'll see 40 pictures of Caleb Williams, and I won't see a single thing about any of our players on here. So it's beautiful. Because it's like, yeah, guys, this is great. Thanks. I'm just going to tell all these guys how much you all think they suck.

5:00Rich Eisen:All right. So Liam Cohen had that to say. By the way, first of all, appreciate you taking in the NFL Network website. Nice. Although my default back in the day was like, yeah, watch NFL Network instead of ESPN, and now we're one in the same. One big fan. I guess I've got to learn to put. Just wait it out, I guess. Well, just, you know, put down the bow and arrow. You know what I mean? We're all part of the same happy family now. Easy Odysseus. But anyway, I appreciate the NFL Network mentioned regardless, nonetheless. If there's any, like, if Liam Cohen is somebody who says stuff with his chest, right, and he's in the top echelon of that, who leads the list?

5:44Rich Eisen:in the NFL of coaches who you don't want to have their name in your out at a phone call during a May press conference. So you're saying the guy in Chicago who Liam Cohen is kind of referencing a little bit saying we're not being talked about, but the old, but the Bears, let's see 40 pictures of Caleb Williams. Oh, this got back to Ben Johnson. Hey, well, we're the number one regression candidates. So I think we got plenty of motivation ourselves. We talked about Caleb in the past. He's used to handling a lot of attention. So I'm not worried about that. He's so serious all the time. Yeah, he is.

6:27Rich Eisen:We're the number one regression. I don't know. Jacksonville is up there too. Everyone thinks you're regressing to the mean, right? New England a little bit. number one regression oh my oh my oh my yeah man one guy's like we're overlooked and the other guy says everybody's looking for us to fall on our faces oh my you know let's see let's see is there are you looking up for odds to regress no i'm looking up division odds so jacksonville is second behind houston oh and the bears are third in the north that's a regress behind Detroit and Green Bay. Huh. Okay. Remind me, who won the NFC North last year?

7:15Rich Eisen:That would be your Chicago Bears. I mean, they're only... Oh, my. They're only... It's a bottom line is every coach is looking for the edge. They're looking for the edge. Liam's like, we don't have to make it up. I will never forget sitting on the set in Tampa, Florida of NFL Network's coverage of the Super Bowl between the Cardinals and the Steelers. Coming up next, everybody, here comes Ken Wisenhunt, coach of the Arizona Cardinals. He comes walking up. You take a commercial break. In the commercial break, he sits down and he looks me in the face and he goes, I heard what you had to say about us.

7:56Rich Eisen:I'm like, what did I have to say about you? He goes, I heard. And he goes, worst playoff team ever? Really? And I'm thinking to myself, I never said that. Why would he think I said that? And then I'm like, oh God, Chris Collinsworth said that. I didn't say it. And I said that to coach. I'm like, Chris Collinsworth said that. I didn't say that. And he goes, really? Like I'm making up Chris Collinsworth. He was so in the nobody believes in us mode. It was everybody's catching it. Everybody's catching one. God, I love this league. That was great. 40 days to go. one coach is like, we're not talked about enough.

8:36Rich Eisen:We're overlooking. I don't have to make this stuff up to give fodder to my team. And the other guy's like, oh, you want fodder? We're the ones who are supposed to step on our own Johnsons. And I don't mean Ben. It's actually better when they're talking about you. It's more fun. Well, Chris loves it because that means we're being heard, right? We're being talked about. Although I'm not sitting here saying the Bears are regressing. I am also not talking about Jacksonville as much. that's correct. By the way, I'm going to pick both those teams to win their divisions again. I think so too, but Jacksonville, with all due respect, they've got to, like, let's win a playoff game and let's not, like, pull one out of an orifice after the first half is so bad you're wondering if you're going to bench your quarterback.

9:22Rich Eisen:You know, let this Jacksonville team show up like the Bortles ones that damn near beat you if it wasn't Stephon Gilmore saving the bacon correct in foxborough yep no doubt like i want to see that out of the trevor lawrence jaguars this year and then next year guess what we'll be doing leading the show with the cowboys good one you'll be scrolling through it we'll be scrolling let's go to jack in arizona everybody jack what's up jack i know it's hot jack you there i think jack's watching the tv here Hold on a minute. Jackie boy. Jack, you there? Yeah, I sure am. Okay, Jack, you got to turn down the television.

10:03Rich Eisen:You're on live now because if the TV is going to be on and we're talking, it's not going to be great. You there? Yeah, I just turned it off. Okay, Jack, what's going on, man? Well, I'm a diehard Bear fan. I go back in the 40s when Sid Littman was quarterbacking, and then he returned in 1950. Okay. Then later on, Patty Driscoll was coaching the Bears in the mid-50s because George Hale said it on a retreat. How old are you, Jack, if you don't mind me asking? How old are you? I will be 87 years old December 28th. Oh, boy, Jack. Okay, so what are we thinking? What are we thinking here? What are we thinking here?

10:45Rich Eisen:Because you just heard the coach says that so many people feel that the Bears are going to regress this year. Jack, what are we thinking? They're not going to regress. No way. No. No, here, two years ago, there were nothing with the lousy coach we had. He even forgot to even call a timeout during the Thanksgiving game. Unbelievable. He got a piece of work. Now we have a real coach. Okay. A real coach like we had in Ditka back in the day. Okay. In fact, Mike Ditka and I are the same age. Mike Ditka's birthday is in October. Mine is in December. All right. We're the same year. And I actually outlived Chuck Norris.

11:25I can't believe that. Unbelievable. Well, anyways, yeah, I'm a diehard. I live a block and a half from Wrigley Field all my life.

11:35Rich Eisen:All right, Jack. I'm named a city called Magnolia between Addison and Waveland. I was in that house since I was a year old. Jack. All my life. This is awesome. Here's what we're going to do. You're going to have to call us back so we can chat with you throughout the season. All right? Yeah, for sure. Let's keep revisiting here, okay? One other thing. Sure. When the Bears played in the Wrigley Field, the last team they played was the Green Bay Packers. We beat them 35-13. Then we went into Soldier's Field. The team that we played them were the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we beat them 17-15. And then the quarterback for the Bears at that time was Clark Kent Nix.

12:17Remember that? Kent Nix? I don't know if you remember that.

12:20Rich Eisen:No, sir. you're mentioning things before my time but I appreciate your time here Jack I'll give you another one back in we played Detroit Lions in 1970 and Bobby Douglas was the quarterback remember the guy in Detroit the wide receiver Chuck Hughes he died in the field remember that I don't think you remember that Jack in Arizona ladies and gentlemen he's got a call back there's Jack in Arizona we were going down the full NFL films roster right there. Bears fans are lit. Should be. Okay. Now you did this with Seth Rollins last week. You did a sleeper team. We did a sleeper draft. So each hour at the top of the hour, me and TJ and Seth, we drafted our sleeper teams.

13:09Those are the nine that we came up with. We all kind of homered our own pick. Yeah, but how are the Bears,

13:14Rich Eisen:Patriots, or Cowboys a sleeper team? I don't think anyone expects them to win the Super Bowl. My team didn't make the playoffs last year. I don't know. That's your sense of what a sleeper team is? We're a sleeper team. Nobody expects anything out of us, except for you and Dallas fans and me. What are you talking about? First Take has been talking about them every day, all week. And there are some people who think they can win it all. Yeah, but they're talking about it. Listen, those aren't sleeper teams, I don't think. But again, I'm just telling you. The other ones were. I initially wanted to put the Chiefs as my number one sleeper team.

13:47Rich Eisen:But I didn't do it. Because I'm not here to inflame. I'm here to inform. Why not both? Big difference. Because I don't want to. Because I don't want to. My top five sleeper teams brought to you by Hyundai. High five. One, two, three, four, five. Rich's top five. Okay, so sleeper teams. My top five sleeper teams. So these are teams that didn't make the playoffs. And these are teams that I think that didn't make the playoffs. They're going to make the playoffs. So my number one team is, I think, a team that can win the damn Super Bowl. Okay? You all on the same page here? Number five. I'm going with the Cleveland Browns here.

14:28Rich Eisen:Really? I'm going with the Cleveland Browns. They have drafted some studs. Did you see Todd Monken the other day when somebody asked him if Harold Fannin is going to be a key portion of his offense? And he's just like, hell yeah. Yeah, Harold Fannin. Fannin. Judkins. Casey Concepcion is there. They have drafted some kids. Let's get some quality quarterback play. And the head coach on offense, I know Stefanski, that was his side of the ball. It just wasn't working out. I don't know. I think the Browns can be – I'll stop being high register. I think the Browns can be better than you think. How good?

15:08Rich Eisen:Better than you think. And Browns won't be the homecoming. They're five. Four. I'm buying into some of the bandwagon talk on the Saints. Saints only two games away from winning the division. I had them on my list. Olave's been paid. They paid Travis Etienne. What if Kamara's good, too? What if Etienne and Kamara, would that be the best running back tandem in the NFL? I'm throwing it out there. Running back tandem. Okay, yeah, Detroit broke up theirs. By the way, everybody, you know, and Gibbs is going to be the bell count. I'm excited about that. They did hire Isaiah Pacheco. Right. I was just about to say.

15:52Rich Eisen:So it's not like, you know, Gibbs is going to get 90 carries and only the carries. I mean, Pacheco can fill that Montgomery role for sure. So I'm putting the Saints here. We'll see what they can do. The defense, we've got to see what they can do. But I'll put the Saints here. Number three on this list. they are bald and they are beautiful yeah this was my number one pick they were number one for you? what if Cam Ward gets this coaching from Dayball Carnell Tate and Ridley and you know Pollard there's some home run hitters folks and the defense Salah is going to coach them up big time it's going to be better And again, the sailing already.

16:47Rich Eisen:It's smooth. Look at that. Look at that right there. The storefronts. So many. The storefronts are clean. So many beautiful bald men. Look at that. Sala. You know what? You like hiring people in your own image. Good Lord. It's like the baldest Brady Bunch of all time right there. You know? Okay. Number two on the list. I'm buying into this hype, too. I'm doing it. The Giants. The G-Men. The G-Men. I like this. Their schedule's pretty brutal. It's brutal. But John Harbaugh's coming into town. You know that's going to plus this team up. Oh, yeah. On the spot. That's what Harbaugh's do. They plus up.

17:33Rich Eisen:Just John's only had one nude gig before as a head coach 16 years ago. I don't know why I want to buy into it. When is Malik Nabors going to play? Great question. Don't know. But defensively, they're really good. They'll get after you. Just let's keep the quarterback out of the big blue tent. They got the scat, man. Okay. I mean, Theo Johnson's pretty good, right? He's at Penn State over there? Yep, he is. I'm just mentioning because that's him on the screen, if I'm not mistaken. and let's get Skititibo out there not flipping around well you can't stop him from flipping I'm going to and then number one my sleeper team of the year I know you're going to have a problem with me saying that Dallas Cowell no no Cincinnati Bengals I think can win the AFC and win the whole damn shooting match I think that they it's not helpful that what Shamar Stewart got carted off So only a hyperextension.

18:36Rich Eisen:Got it. He's going to miss a few weeks. Got it. Avoid a disaster. Okay, which is great. It looked awful. But this offense is still this offense. Let's protect him. Let's just give Joe Burrow a short field sometimes. You know, let's give Joe Burrow some happiness. So he's not just going home, looking through his new telescope, staring into the greatness into the abyss that the celestial stars are. You know what I mean? He's like zooming with Neil deGrasse Tyson. I love it. Sexy Dex. He's like, let's see it today, Joe. And he's like, you see it every day. Welcome to the Cincinnati Bengals. I think the Bengals are the number one sleeper team.

19:15Rich Eisen:And what that means is win the division, go deep in the playoffs, if not make it back here to SoFi and let's go. They have that chance. You have one more. I did not know this. That's my boy. That's my boy. One more. Which one of you said the Vikings? Who said the Vikings are a sleeper team? Is that you, TJ? That was me. I'm going to go next level. The Vikings are a sleeper team. With J.J. McCarthy. Bingo. Bingo. Bingo. Bingo. The kid gets time, and then the kid starts showing up, and the kid gets them to the playoffs and shows you what he can do when the chips are done. Yeah, baby. Minnesota Vikings with J.J.

19:58Rich Eisen:McCarthy. Let's go. At some point, he'll get his chance, don't you think? Or is Kyler going all 17 from jump? The only way Kyler misses time is if he's hurt. He's not going to get bent. I agree. I agree. That's my top five sleeper teams for this upcoming season, brought to you by Hyundai. Get into the Hyundai Getaway sales event and get away with a deal so right it almost feels wrong. Visit HyundaiUSA.com for details. We'll take some phone calls before we get out of Dodge for the weekend, But before that, Seth Rollins is back on the show, but this time as a guest in support of SummerSlam. That's still to come and coming up next right here on The Rich Eisen Show.

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23:47Rich Eisen:What's up, guys? How are you? I'm doing very well. All right. first things first uh just got to jump right into it here uh seth uh i told you last week when we last spoke it was actually one week ago this very day seth uh when i zoomed into this show uh from my personal time off um the segment before your wife joined this program as your guest that that interview on occasion would not go your well uh your way very well seth you know was i was i correct in that uh foreshadowing i thought it went pretty well i thought it was okay you know we we didn't it didn't carry over at home so you know whatever we said we left it at the desk there and it was great she was an awesome guest she's got great stories she put me on the hot seat a couple of times that's what i meant that's what i meant i didn't think i i didn't mean to say that the interview didn't go well overall i thought it was a it was a if you will a summer slam in its own right but um i i you know you and i had no idea we had something in common that at uh first blush you and i received heisman trophies we got the we got you know we got the stiff arm yeah get out of here you know what i mean oh yeah very beginning big one big one yeah yeah but you know we're persistent you know what i mean we're persistent we work we we earn everything that's given to us yes that's right now look at us yes well deserved and uh we've got trophies to uh trophy wives yeah and our children are are are miracles there's there's no doubt about that that's true all right so let's let's get into it here um seth um summer slam minnesota you're wearing purple right now i mean that's vikings country seth it's painful a little bit i'm not in Minnesota.

25:36I figure, you know, the season hasn't started yet. It's not quite August. So let's just, you know, let's just have bygones be bygones for now. Once the season starts in September, you know, I'll put the Navy and orange back on, but I figure, you know, be one with the people while I'm here.

25:50Rich Eisen:How, how do the people respond to you though? They, they know who you are and they know who you root for and they know, uh, the bears stand in the Vikings way. Seth, is that a problem yeah i still think that we both hate the packers more than we hate each other so we can kind of coalesce over that a little bit and i think that brings us together more than separates us what's that the phrase the enemy of my enemy is my friend is that what it is correct yeah the enemy is a friend okay i like that uh the fact that roman reigns played for the vikings that a problem what do you think i mean did he play there a little bit practice squad i'm not exactly sure i'm not concerned that's not a problem i mean he wasn't good enough to hack it and be a real player in the nfl so it's not like i'm in i'm concerned in any way so for you to if you will respect it or or earn your ultimate respect you got to make the 53 man roster is that what you're saying seth yeah well you got to sustain a little bit you know i'm nothing against these practice squad dudes i mean they're ballers you know what i mean they're gonna outrun me out throw me every step of the way, but you got to sustain a little bit.

26:58You know what I'm saying? Roman was in and out real quick, and then, you know, he's got a very, very famous family that he comes from in our industry, so it was easy for him to just be like, you know what? Actually, I don't want to do that. I'll just be given an opportunity here in WWE. So, you know, he took it, and here we are many, many years later fighting over the richest prize in the game.

27:18Rich Eisen:Love it, man. Sunday, August 2nd is when it's going to go down of this two-night event It's streaming live Saturday and Sunday, 6 Eastern on the ESPN app with an ESPN unlimited plan. So what can you preview for us on this front, Seth? Whoa, baby. I mean, it's too nice. It's going to be a big deal. You know, SummerSlam is the biggest party this summer. It's kind of like WrestleMania in the middle of August or the beginning of August. You got a lot going on. You got Brock Lesnar and Oba in the Hell in a Cell. You got Cody and Punk. You got Liv and Io for the Women's Championship. You got a ladder match to find an interim WWE women's champion as well.

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27:54Five women going to be fighting out for that. And then, of course, the main event on Sunday. Myself, Roman Reigns, kind of 14 years in the making. We've got a huge history. He came in as part of the Shield, one of the most dominant factions in the history of WWE. Separated in 2014. I might have had something to do with that. But there's been a lot of history between me and Roman over the years. And I think we're at a place in our careers where we're both kind of closer to the end than the beginning. So I don't know how many more opportunities we're going to get to do this dance. He and I, one-on-one with a title on the line and a big pay-per-view or premium live event, as we call them now.

28:30But I'm really excited and looking forward to it. And, you know, whether this is the final chapter or not, I don't know. But it's certainly the next chapter. Seth, what's up? TJ here. Yo, yo. What's up, bro? So, you know, the story of you and Roman's been told you guys have done a great job taking us down that path. But I want to ask you as a wrestling fan, with SummerSlam being so important, with two nights, you as a fan, the fan Seth Rollins, what are you looking forward to watching, sitting back outside your match, just like taking in their story? Well, there's a couple of them. I think one of the big ones, and I mentioned this on another interview earlier this week, is Nick Aldis, who is the SmackDown general manager.

29:12He's taking on Gunther, who I wrestled at WrestleMania this past year. One of the best in the game. And Aldis is a guy who's been in the industry for a long time, but he's making his WWE in-ring debut. So if you want to pop on the old internet machine and Google Nick Aldis, you'll find a lot about his professional wrestling career. Before he was just the SmackDown GM. So it's always interesting for me to see how people react in a huge spot like this. Right. It's not just like a regular match on a Monday or a Friday. This is a big time match and it's a big time player. So when you get your first kind of blush with achieving what is most people's dream in our industry to be in WWE, I'm always curious to see what that's going to be like for him.

29:55The other one is actually Chad Gable versus Penta. I think if you follow the Chad Gable story over the past year and some change, you know, from Grande Americano to his injury to coming back as Grande. and then having an incredible mass versus match match down in AAA in Mexico to now kind of this redemption arc. And he's from Minneapolis, so this is his hometown. And so to see what that's going to be like for him, the ovation that he's probably going to get against one of the greatest mass wrestlers of our generation, Penta, for a prestigious title like the Intercontinental Championship, I think that one jumps off the page for me as well.

30:34I know when you're in your hometown or your home state, Like there's an extra little chip on your shoulder that you really want to show out and show up for your hometown fans. What are you looking forward to, TJ?

30:44Rich Eisen:What are you looking forward to? Well, he knows. I told him this last week when he was here. Obviously, he and Roman, you know, you're talking about the two top guys of a generation. It's like watching Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart or The Rock and Stone Cold. So obviously his match. And now for that match, because you have worked with Seth Rollins. Yeah. Right? right we are rooting for seth rollins right like who's roman reigns who is that person we don't know who he is anymore you know no matter what pressure on him rich no matter how much you have rooted for roman reigns uh-huh there's now a personal connection for you and the man in purple on the screen this is true am i wrong you were not wrong okay so what are we gonna do now here's what we're gonna do what are we you know you guys always make fun of me for being a sixers and a Clippers fan, right?

31:31Rich Eisen:And a Penn State fan and a Mets fan. This in particular, because it's one sport, two teams. So anytime I've watched the Sixers and the Clippers, what I do is every time there's a basket, I clap. Every time there's a good defensive play, I clap. Every time there's a call I don't like, I boo. So I do. I sit on the fence on that one. All right. So then, hold on a minute. Sorry, Seth. I don't mean to talk like you're not sitting here listening to this whole thing. So Seth is now the Sixers, right? and Roman's the Clippers. Right? I'm going to say this. I'm fans of both men, but I got to be honest.

32:09There's one guy I can get on the phone and I can text and call and he'll answer. And storyline purposes, the other guy's never beaten him really in a big match. So if you're going to put the, to my head, I'm going to say Monday we'll come in talking about maybe the new world champion. There's only one person in this room who is aligned with one person. I'm a Seth Rollins guy. I am out as a Seth Rollins guy. I don't know what the deal is with the acknowledging and all that crap anymore. So, Seth, you know that I have your back 100 % to the end. Love you, my brother. Let's go get it. So you have no schism.

32:47I love that. Thank you, Brockman. We don't need none of this on-the-fence TV nonsense. Get off the fence. We don't need anybody hedging their bets over here. We need love. We need support. That's what we need. You want the title to come back to the Rich Eisen show. It's not going to be Roman Reigns. That's a good point. You're going to need Seth Rollins to do that for you. All right. Absolutely. Well, you heard what you heard in my closing statement, Seth. You heard what I said. What closing statement? Did you hear me? Because you heard what I said. Which was what? I said storyline purposes. I think we might.

33:17Rich Eisen:Storyline purposes. I don't root for storylines. I root for people who I'd love and I root for and I work with. You know what I'm saying? That's right. So plus, let's stir this up even more. Didn't Roman Reigns say something to you? He did. Did he not say something to you about this man? He did. What did he say to you about this man? He said, go ahead, come on. I saw him backstage and he looks at me and goes, what's up with your coworker, man? Now, at that point. You thought it had to be mean? No, I knew it wasn't you. Okay. So the thought was, my first thought was like, damn, okay, he watches our stuff.

33:51And then I was like, is he talking about Brockman? No, he's talking about Seth. And then he, look, you know, Kayfabe, he was kind of complimentary of your skills and what you do hosting. But, yeah, the first thing he said, he looked at me and was like, what's up with your coworker, man? Seth. You know, look, rivalries make stories and stories sell tickets. And this has been a story that's sold tickets for many, many, many, many years. I just love that he looked at us as coworkers, you know, that did something for me. Equals. There we go.

34:21Rich Eisen:Or was he complaining about O'Shea? Was he complaining about O'Shea? Oh, no, not because O'Shea is the number one Roman lover. Okay, so he's not complaining about that. See, all right, Seth, here's the deal. I mean, Roman Reigns, he can come on this show anytime he wants. You know what I mean? But you're my guy, Seth. You're my guy. He could come on the show anytime he wants, but he doesn't. I'm there for you when you need me the most, Rich. Exactly. Anytime you call my name, I'm like Batman. You put the Seth signal up in the sky, I'm there for you. And by the way, we did exactly that, you know, last week.

34:56Rich Eisen:And we appreciate you doing that. Plus, TJ, you put up the picture here, man. Just put up the picture. You know what I mean? Look at this. You traitor, TJ. Listen. What are you doing? You got them chompers out, too. Listen, O'Shea is so over the top in his love for Roman on no contest. I really have to bounce it out. I've always got to lean Seth's way because otherwise, you know, O'Shea takes it to the next level. So, but like I said, I've got no dog in the fight. They're two of my favorites of all time, man. All you know, Monday night, Cage was in the Rollins shirt. I got on the Rollins chain.

35:34We were the only ones cheering for you in our section. This lady and her son looked at us as we were booing Roman. And she's like, really? I'm like, come on. What do you mean really? You know, I'm looking forward to it. I think there's a contingent on both sides. So I'm really looking forward to kind of the dueling, singing the songs and the OTCs. And I'm curious to see sort of which one pushes the other one out or if they just sort of amplify each other. You know, that's kind of the beauty of the Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins story is you sort of pick a side and you're in on it. Not a lot of fence sitters like TJ over there.

36:09But it's going to be an electric crowd. Like, I'm really excited to see kind of just how it plays. And, you know, the audience is like they're like an actor in our play. So I'm very curious to see where they sit and what kind of energy they bring Minneapolis on Sunday night.

36:25Rich Eisen:Yeah. You know, and on Sunday night, Minneapolis, they might, you know, remember you're the Bears fan. He's the Vikings alum. Right. Do I do that in air quotes? Do I do that in air quotes? You know, a little bit of an alum. OK, fine. By the way, I'm talking this way about Roman because he's not in the room. That's true. hey rich but you know what you're right i'm on the fence i like both of them but just like lavar ball even when you lose i win even when i lose i win so you know either way i'm gonna be happy and i'm gonna be sad i'll be happy and sad i don't know seth you're the man have a great uh summer slam thanks for sitting in this chair next time we talk um and maybe there's uh more time uh we we We do have to revisit that whole diehard Christmas movie thing.

37:12Rich Eisen:Cause you, I've watched it. Okay. I have opinions. Okay. That'll be the next time. Let's just keep up. Let's keep a pin in that one. I'm sure you and I, you'll be back here at some point between now and the beginning of the season. And if not, by the way, thank you. Lovely wife, your better half for being a guest on the show. I was a fun conversation. That was great. I do not take that for granted. Cause you guys have not done that before, right? where you're interviewing Becky Lynch, correct? That's never happened. That is correct. Never has she been a guest in a forum where I've been the moderator.

37:45So yeah, it was very cool.

37:46Rich Eisen:It was awesome. You're usually the A and she's the Q at home. You know what I mean? I'm sure she's like, what's up with this, Seth? But I appreciate it. I don't take that for granted. And you the man and have a great SummerSlam. Thank you, Rich. You got it. WWE SummerSlam, Saturday and Sunday, 6 Eastern on ESPN Unlimited. Seth Rollins here on The Rich House. Yes, sir. Yes, indeed. All right. We'll take a break, and we'll give TJ a splinter for his ass. That's how I spend the commercial break.

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40:24Rich Eisen:I just moved from Toledo, Ohio. I'm a lifelong kind of Steelers fan. I don't know. I'm not as quite as old as Jack was. Nice. But I'm 60, and I was at the Franco Harris game where he did the immaculatory reception with my father. Oh, that's neat. That's awesome. That's great, Ron. That's pretty dope. Let's go. So, well, listen, it was, you know, obviously, you know, a terrible moment that Franco wasn't around for that 50th reunion. I know, obviously. Yes, I was. No doubt about it. But what do you think of your Steelers this year? Are you excited? Lightning in a bottle. I foresee great things. I think they're most underrated for the Magic that they look like they could finally hit again.

41:16Rich Eisen:It's been 17 years since we won the Super Bowl. It's been a while. It's been a while. Well, thank you for the call, Ron. I greatly appreciate the time. It's Ron in Tennessee right here on the program. The Steelers start against the Falcons. It's a fun start. Arthur Smith's still there, isn't he? No. No, you're gone, right? Arthur's gone. That's right. Mike McCarthy's the man there now. Then Rodgers at the Patriots one more time. One last time. Before the Bengals and then the Browns right there. 844-204-RICH being the number to dial here on the program. Let's go to Jason in New Hampshire. What's up, Jason?

42:03What's up? What's up, buddy? I'm on. You are. This is my first step into my career change here. Some people like to practice pitching wind-ups in the mirror. I'm practicing the ad reads that Rich Eisen does so beautifully.

42:20Rich Eisen:All right. What's on your mind, bud? Well, I'd like to do the win-loss for the Bottle Nose Boys down in Miami. So you want to do a Dolphins win-loss game. All right, let's do it. Yeah, I'm a bit of a fish out of water. You know, my dad was a bandwagon Marino guy back in the day, so he set me up for a failure. Well, the only one I have here is, I guess, what, a 14-year-old from Georgia named Harry gave the Dolphins a big-time insane record of, I guess, 14-3. So let's see what we've got here. Jason in New Hampshire, what happens when the Dolphins open up in Las Vegas? Las Vegas. Uh, Las Vegas. Okay.

43:05Rich Eisen:Then you're at San Francisco. At San Francisco. They just got Debo back. Boss. 0-2, home for the Chiefs. Home for the Chiefs. Those boys are going to try to run it back again. Lost. 0-3 at the Vikings. Vikings. Quarterback battle there. Yeah, we don't cover running quarterbacks well at all. I know it's going to be kind of a loss. 0-4, home for the Bengals. Ooh, Bengals revamped on defense. but maybe we can, uh, lost. 0-5 at the Jets. I'm going to go with your boy that called a couple days ago, lost. Okay, 0-6, home for the Patriots. Home for the Patriots. That's a win. That a boy. There we go.

43:50Whoa!

43:50Rich Eisen:There we go. Jeff Halfley's first career win against Brockman's Patriots, and you know the crazy things happen. You're in New England, bro. Come on. Lions and Dolphins. You got the Lions. Lions and Dolphins. Ooh, you know what? I'm going to flip a little bit here, because I think the line's on a downward turn. That's a W. That's two games in a row at the Colts. Colts, Danny Jones, fresh contract. I lost. Two and seven at the Bills. At the Bills, ooh, definite loss right there. Two and eight, home for the Jets. Home for the Jets. Coming back around, no way. Win. Three and eight at the Broncos. The Broncos, the Broncos.

44:30You know, I'm very down on the Broncos. I think they're going to finish a lot lower than people think this year. However, I will take that as a loss.

44:35Rich Eisen:All right, 3-9, home for the Bears. Home for the Bears. Man, I do like Caleb Williams. I do like the way he threw that fourth down. Fourth down in forever. I've got to go to the loss. Three, okay. You've got 3-10 now at the Packers. Oh, Jeff, going against it. Oh, he knows. Everyone's talking about Jordan Love, MVP. No, he knows his boy. That's a win. All right, that's four wins now. What do you got? Let's finish up strong real quick. You don't have much time. Chargers at Dolphins. I know I don't. Say again? Chargers. Chargers. That's a loss because I'm really high on them with my boy Mike McDaniel.

45:10Rich Eisen:Home for the Bills. Lost. And then at the Patriots. Oh, yeah, I mean, we're tanking for Arch Manning at that point. 4-13, Jason in New Hampshire. Thanks for the call, Jason in New Hampshire. And with the first pick in the 2027 draft? 4-13 would be – I don't know if 4-13 would be good enough for first overall pick, pal. Seems like a tiebreaker.

45:34Rich Eisen:that's such a bummer of a way to go right into the weekend don't you think august is here wow let's go baby let's go uh trade deadline over the weekend when's it when stuff's gonna pop it seems like sunday night when we're back here on monday is tarik skuble the dodger yes or no no i mean i hope i think he is let's go jeff passin said the only way Tarek Skubal is not a Dodger is that the price goes so far up the Dodgers get insulted insult them please insult them at some point they're just going to say sold we don't want to pay him that much that's frustrating did the Dodgers even get another ace to go along with him with Skubal yeah oh my goodness uh-oh Freddie Peralta got scratched from the Mets start see you later Freddie that was a great run yeah man we'll look back finally leaving a Mets town maybe Lindor too to you?

46:39Rich Eisen:go to you? I'll take him or Abrams I'm sure you'll take him will your owner open up the Velcro enough I don't know. That's when the Red Sox have made a trade. There it is. That'll wrap up this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. We'll chat again on Monday, unless it's Disney+. That's in a sec. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast. You can watch and listen to the Rich Eisen Show live weekdays from noon to 3 Eastern on ESPN Radio, Disney +, and on the ESPN app. The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast.

47:20Thank you.

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