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1:15Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. I don't even know what that means. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. What did you tell Tom Brady? We came to play football and I'll argue with the refs. Yeah, he didn't like it. Earlier on the show. 2026 NFL draft prospect Eli Stowers. Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo. Coming up. Actor Kevin Zegers. Overreaction Monday on a Tuesday. And now, Rich Eisen.

1:55Rich Eisen:Our number three of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Just had a very nice chat in our green room with Kevin Zegers, who is in the new hit show on Paramount. Plus, I guess that's kind of redundant when Taylor Sheridan is writing it and creating it, called The Madison, starring Michelle Pfeiffer, who is remarkable in it. Kurt Russell. Matthew Fox, I haven't seen him in a while from Lost. Anyway, Kevin's in our green room. We'll come out and talk about that show. He's also a hockey guy, guys. will drop puck apparently he played right around here is there a spot other than i guess the king's facility that uh in el segundo are we known for our ice sports here in el segundo i didn't know that thanks that's right okay off ramps and ice sports all right um kevin's going to be joining us uh shortly uh on this program tiger woods y 'all he's performing tonight in the tgl he's putting himself in the Jupiter lineup this year.

2:51Rich Eisen:I do. That is exciting. And so he's been out since back surgery, and he's going to swing a club competitively for the first time tonight in the second match of the best of three TGL final. Los Angeles Golf Club won the first round. So tonight, Jupiter is trying to force a third match, and that's on ESPN tonight so tiger's on espn and i'm sure the espn executives are really you think so you really want to do that or they're the other way what do you think look do you imagine somebody wakes up this morning and they're like hey hey tiger's gonna perform are you fine with that you good can you promote that do you have the people to help promote that so you want to bump anything we're good would you backs against the wall roll out the goat and by the way let's go there's no college basketball tonight.

3:47Rich Eisen:The women's tournament is on hiatus till the Sweet 16, and the men's are on hiatus till the Sweet 16. So this is an event this evening on ESPN. Let's go watch Tiger swing a club. Yeah, light NBA schedule, only four games tonight, so let's throw some Tiger on and let's go. Don't you think? He's wearing red, too. Very excited. We had Max Homa on yesterday to talk about it. Okay, look at us talking TGL. It's fun. We're good partners. We are, if I may say. We had Tom Izzo on in our number two. And we also had Eli Stowers, one of the top prospects in all the lines, certainly at the tight end position.

4:26Rich Eisen:He was on in our number one. If you missed it, there's our podcast version of this show, all three hours, however you get your podcasts. There's also our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash RichEyesandShow. Our Disney Plus page also has an opportunity for you to watch all three hours back whenever you want because it's your right. But I'm that way. Alan Dallas wants to join us. What's on your mind, Al? What do you got? How we doing, boys? We're great. Hey, buddy. What's up, buddy? What's up, man? What a great weekend, huh? Backdoor, a lot of backdoor covers, a lot of unbelievable games. I watched that Michigan team for the first time, Richard.

5:01I have to admit, that is some hell of a team you got there.

5:05Rich Eisen:And we're not as full strength as we can be. We have a kid named LJ Kaysen who came off the bench and has a remarkable knack for pushing the transition game, slashing to the rack, three-point shooting. He can also distribute. He's a really good player that we lost about a month-plus ago, so we're not at full strength. That's scary. I appreciate it. Our Achilles heel is we don't have a backup point guard of note. So if our point guard gets into foul trouble, then we're in trouble. That's a fact. I mean, that's first-class problems to have, Richard. I appreciate that, Albert. I mean, we had St. John's that had a point guard that didn't make a point until he made a point.

5:54Rich Eisen:Dude, my brother was watching St. John's on his phone while in between Cooper's matches this weekend down here in the South Bay. Because, I mean, we are St. John's people growing up in our household. You know it. because of Walter Berry and, you know, Luke Karnasek and the Big East moments. Shelton. The golden moments. I know. Shelton Jones, Yamane O 'Hara. Way back when Rick Pitino was the Providence head coach. Yeah, it was unbelievable. It's great to feel involved again. You know, I don't want to say like I'm TJ Jefferson with 9 ,000 teams. I root for, I am rooting for two college teams. TJ, sorry, I had to take that shot at you.

6:36But I'm rooting for, you know, obviously Arkansas and St. John's. And it's just great. It's great to be involved. It's awesome. Like, it's just, it's true. I love the tournament, especially that we have the ability to hedge a lot of games, like I was telling Brockman over the weekend. His apps are insane. Insane. I know you can't get involved, but that's what Richard, you know, being the luck.

6:59Rich Eisen:No, in six more days, I'll talk about it, though. There we go. Yeah, I don't have to be the unfrozen caveman NFL employee six days from now. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's true. Right now, I'm a blank slate. I have no idea. Yeah. Exactly. Thanks for the call, buddy. All good, boys. Enjoy the tournament. There you go, Al. Bye, Al. It's Al in Dallas. Whatever, Al. See you, pal. You know who checked in today? Tua. Oh. Yeah. He held a press conference. Not in Atlanta. Where is he? It looks like he's on his front porch. It looks like he got kicked out of the house, like the kid's asleep, and you need to have your press conference in the foyer?

7:38Rich Eisen:Can we help these guys with the camera angles? Yeah, it looks like he's got his phone or his iPad underneath his chin. Yeah. And it does look like he's on his front porch. It does. Holding a press conference as the newest quarterback in Atlanta. You know how I feel about this. He's going to be week one. I think he's going to be. I mean, Penix is hurt. Yeah, exactly. We'll get to that a little bit more in a second. But Tua had some interesting things to say, including what went down with him and what turned out to be his final season in Miami. My play wasn't up to the standard of the way I've been playing football the past three years since the new contract.

8:25So just got to play better football. That's what that really means. There's no other way to sugarcoat that or go around that. first things you know what you can't sugarcoat is the the heavy fingered typer i don't know what

8:40Rich Eisen:that is uh somebody's describing or i don't know i mean can we type lighter getting that down you're one of those like that's weird i mean it's really heavy fingers yeah um and the other thing is two is not wrong not wrong i mean listen it can't feel good that he and the dolphins broke up and it'll be a chip. The question is how much of a large chip on his shoulder and can he bring a chip to Atlanta? This is what he had to say about the concept of a quarterback competition, which is what the GM Ian Cunningham said it was going to be, which at the time, when I heard that, I took that as more of a slight to Penix than it was to Tua.

9:26Rich Eisen:And I took that to mean that Tua's going to get the leg up because, I mean, in the same way I'm thinking Kyler Murray can't be beaten out by J.J. McCarthy in Minnesota because of the amount of experience that he's had, Tua's pretty much almost neck and neck with Kyler in terms of experience. And also, to be honest, disappointments, being drafted as high, and also making the playoffs, having one playoff appearance and being one and done in it. This is what he had to say about the competition concept. You don't choose a team based off of whether I'm going to be starting or not. I think you look at the entirety of the group, right?

10:08As I was looking at the other teams, you know, I knew I had to compete regardless of what that was going to look like. Coming here, you know, I kind of know Mike a little bit based off of his relationship with my little brother as they were coming out for the draft. So in that sense, you know, I kind of got in contact with Mike and whatnot, talked with him. And moving forward from there, competition is just a thing in the NFL. I am no stranger to competition. Had it in college. And I would say competition is just going to be there. And competition enhances the play of everyone that you're surrounded with.

10:52and so you know last year wasn't the best year for me and you know i'm looking for a fresh start but fresh start in the sense of being able to compete being able to go back out there and playing football good football and i think the best football is still ahead of me

11:11Rich Eisen:i'm loving his honesty here he's always kind of been a pretty straight shooter and you know There were times, though, Dolphins fans would say he also didn't know what time it was sometimes. Sometimes, but he generally tells you what he's feeling. Well, there's just no doubt that he wound up being a free agent, an opportunity to look for a spot. And I don't know what other teams he was talking about or were interested in him in terms of the names or anything like that. You have to assume it's the same ones as anywhere else. And he got on his spot before anyone else did. you know, in the new league year process.

11:52Rich Eisen:And interestingly enough, the transaction held.

12:00Rich Eisen:And the only team without a quarterback right now is Pittsburgh. Yeah, right. And I don't know if Tua was even an option for them there. It wouldn't have been for me. I mean, you were talking about cold weather. I wouldn't want to be, you know, be in a cold weather spot and hire him to be straight up based on what we just saw in Miami. With all due respect, I'm not denigrating. I'm just taking a look at the results. And I know it's unfair to say that one of the playoff games, it was so cold people got frostbite.

12:31Rich Eisen:But when you look at the scenario that Michael Penix is the starter there, I imagine you're finding out I'm coming. Clearly, Cousins isn't going to be there. So I'm going to compete against a kid that is really talented and has the opportunity there and potentially a leg up on me because of where he was drafted, but the people who drafted him are gone. So there's going to be an even beginning here between the two of us. And I am, you know, I know the kid through my brother, as you mentioned, his brother. And you know it'll be a healthy room to join, but you also know that you've got more experience than him.

13:13Rich Eisen:So if it's truly a straight-up apples-to-apples conversation, you should be able to beat him out. And then on top of it, the offense is kind of sick there. Is what he had to say to that? I think the biggest thing you see with the group of guys that we have, you got yakking Kyle Pitts. You can throw it in the vicinity of Drake. Drake's going to catch it. You got a back like Bijan. I mean, we had HN last year, and you can see the similarities in the style of run, I think, Bijan might be a bit more physical, but in terms of speed, elusiveness, then you've got the play-action game to work off of that to get these guys the ball.

13:56All in all, I think it can be really dangerous.

14:00Rich Eisen:Almost as dangerous as the way that he balanced the phone to talk. I was a little concerned. And they just added Brian Robinson to that backfield. Dude. Make sure you draft the right one in fantasy. Let me just say this because I see they play each other on the schedule. There is no Miami Dolphins, right? But there are the Vikings. Falcons at Vikings. Tua and Kyler. and I bet to make sure that those two are going to be the guys that face one another, I wouldn't be surprised to see that on national television in the first month of the season. Oh. If you're the schedule makers and you see it's Atlanta and Minnesota, wouldn't you put that on a Thursday night?

14:58Rich Eisen:Doesn't that reek of prime video week two, week three? Early on so you know that this is going to be in the period where Penix is either hurt or it's the six-week period where it's a six-week period where you've got both of these guys still getting a tire kick with their league minimum salaries, right? And if it's not, let's just say it does turn out to be Penix versus McCarthy. That's another national championship game rematch. Wasn't that on the schedule last year as well? I would make book on that being an early season nationally televised game where we're like, okay, which one of these guys who got cut and is on a massive dead cap number on their previous team trying to make it again with their new teams and league minimums and playing with house money and have them face off against each other.

16:01Rich Eisen:Justin Jefferson and Drake B. John Robinson. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be surprised to see that when the schedule comes out in May as a first month of the season nationally televised game. Sunday night? I don't know, Monday night? Thursday night? Choose it. I'd watch it. Thursday or Monday. That's not really a Sunday night matchup. Why not? I'd be New England against somebody to rate for that. So it is. Yeah, the New England does rate better than either Atlanta or Minnesota. Just trying to figure that out. I don't know. One team went to the Super Bowl. They play Dallas. Atlanta has San Francisco at home, Kansas City at home, Detroit and Chicago at home, Cincinnati and Baltimore.

16:47Rich Eisen:Dude, their home schedule, the Falcons, is going to have Lamar, Burrow, Goff, Caleb, Purdy, potentially Mahomes. Yeah, and one of those games in Madrid.

17:05jeez okay

17:08Rich Eisen:i see you they're not a lot of cold weather games though green bay and cleveland this pittsburgh pittsburgh but maybe that's a september october i don't know they would hope for that 844-204-rich is the number to dial two is going to be this week one guy i'm telling you it's gonna be the number he's gonna be the week one guy he's gonna beat out Penix. And I think Kyler's going to be the week one guy too. I don't see that as a week one game. I'd see the week two, three or four nationally televised. Let's go. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back in studio as the actor Kevin Zegers, he is in the Madison playing mostly in scenes with Michelle Pfeiffer.

17:48Rich Eisen:He is next. This is the Rich Eisen Show.

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19:34Rich Eisen:Total radio silence. Well, not anymore. Now your taxes are done for you by a TurboTax full service expert who checks for every deduction and keeps you in the loop with real-time updates on your phone. Just match with your dedicated expert, upload your docs, and go live your life. Confident you're getting every dollar you deserve. This is how taxes should be. Visit TurboTax.com today to learn more. Real-time updates only in iOS mobile app. Only available with TurboTax full-service experts. Kevin Zegers is here on The Rich Eisen Show. Our radio audience just returned. We just showed a clip of the Madison which is streaming now on Paramount plus a six episode season Taylor Sheridan's newest show and um you know it is fitting that Michelle Pfeiffer um kind of has just a a lone shot right here on as as the face of the show because she is in many different ways what is it like being in scenes with her I mean she's she's everything that you I mean I think any leader of you know number one on a call sheet is like a very specific job um and it's not just about i mean obviously she's in nearly every scene but it requires a level of like you know you're the leader um we're out in montana there's a lot of younger actors on the show a lot of newer actors on the show um and her ability to just go we're out here anything you need she just you know she's got the most impressive thing she opens up her binder and she's got like it folds out this paper that's like this long and the arc of from the beginning of first episode to the last so she can regulate you know oh here i just had a meltdown so i don't want to do that again so i'm going to bring and it's just like long winding thing of like how she arcs and i was just like for her to care that much and for the girls and the other actors on the show to see like this is what the level is that we're expecting i think is just like and she's also just her and i got particularly close i think partly in you know because of the characters relationship yes um and the trust that we built to like because taylor's not there he writes the scripts and he's not he's not um never once showed up on the set showed up in texas for a day okay um but christina of oros who's our director he's worked with a ton and i think i mean i think he comes if there's problems um so you don't want to see him if the plane's on the way there's things are not going well right um but he's just so i think there's a level of like you got to find a you got to find a buddy on those shows other than your christina our filmmaker and i think both of us just kind of locked into like what do you need and i think part of kade's thing is what i tried to do with michelle which was like whatever you need out here you want to run lines for your 10 page scene tomorrow let's do it i'll hop in there it's just a it became part of like my vibe because i thought cade was like that and and we became super close because of that well i mean the show is about her journey and you know emotionally spiritually and the story of kurt russell and how it was all obviously uh woven together and you're you become part of that as as the show uh moves along um and again that that's you're waiting for as you said the bad guy to show up or a little bit of pulp yeah to show up or um some unspeakable multiple tragedy right like that we saw in 1883 or 1923 um or in another case of what's another taylor sheridan staple is him showing up without a shirt or or a medium you know what i mean he is an incredible shape i just saw him at the premiere and I was like, bro.

23:19Dude, right? I could see veins through like a sweater like this. Yeah. Dude. Got it.

23:23Rich Eisen:How do you write that much and lift that heavy? Listen, he's Taylor Sheridan. He is. Is it true you met him as an acting coach though? I did. Yeah, yeah. That's how you first met him? It's 20 years ago. He lived in Reseda. Right. A little bungalow with his girlfriend at the time who is now his wife and yeah, you could pay him 100 bucks to help you run lines. And he probably needed the money back then. I still have an email from him yeah from yeah a long time ago and it was like hey uh you owe me like 150 bucks like i haven't been paid so i think i think i paid him but okay if i think i don't think he needs the money now but no that's in a couch cushion right now totally yeah pretty pretty much yep you know but in in your times again with um michelle pfeiffer do you ask her about like say scarface or the fabulous baker boys or anything i think it's sort of a given that people love her yes so can confirm by the way yes yeah i mean she's so beautiful yeah i'm married so am i sir yeah that doesn't stop me no we have red blood and everyone says like oh the scar face like do you ever think about her in scarface i'm like no no i think about her like at exactly where she is right now okay getting out of the car like she was stunning but i can see by that no i know that but i was like tell me a pacino story you know what i mean like what do you got for me you know she wants to talk about her granddaughter that's what we're talking about how cold it is in montana and right how far base camp is from set she's married to david e kelly right yeah okay who's the coolest guy who was by the way taylor sheridan before taylor sheridan correct and he was with her the whole time he loves to fish so he's up in montana they have to bring the dog uh-huh yeah yeah taylor uh david's there okay yeah so we got one writer it's who knows what he's doing right exactly yeah that's and and so you're you're uh a real life cowboy as well or no or is that uh like in your real life city so i'm not not anymore but you grew up in canada i grew up on horses in canada my uncles are all dairy farmers so yeah i mean i i grew up in the country seeing how to do it right but i had a lot of help christina's husband the director yes is the animal wrangler on these shows yes so i spent a ton of time with him yes and he's like a real cowboy he lives in west texas so right i had some i had some great guidance but in your also in your history of your acting career you're used to working with four-legged animals i know i am yeah yeah how's that very comfortable i know look at that you like this glass you rich by the way i gotta say this i do we have a lot of friends in common and you are universally the most liked guy come on i swear to god tell me more no no i swear to god and i'm not just i'm not pumping your tires okay like universally the the i've never heard a bad thing about you no i appreciate i was super excited to come thank you for saying that i appreciate that now i was literally about to say goodbye but let's stick around tell me more kevin yeah um but thank you for saying that of course so in your um your filmography air bud yes you were the 12 year old kid in air bud i sure was correct yeah how the hell did that happen man i don't know i grew up in woodstock ontario which is two hours from toronto i've done like a couple of commercials and stuff yeah it somehow happened that i met the director it wasn't a disney movie when they cast it it was just a was it a horror movie no it was an independent movie so it wasn't like dark movie it was yeah by the way it was dark for me um air bud was on a 10-day contract you know yeah couldn't make the jumper shotgun in the rear on the side.

26:58No, but it was, yeah, it was a long time, 30 years ago. Dude, 30 years.

27:05Rich Eisen:When, look at that picture. What do you think of when you see that picture, man? What do you think of? I think like that was probably a Saturday. I remember we worked six to eight weeks on that show. I remember being like, golly, I want to go home. I think that's probably what I was thinking. Or who gave me that haircut is probably what I was thinking. What on earth? Mid-90s. That was the style. Yeah, come on now. That's not too far. Canadian tuxedo with the ball and the dog. Oof. How many dogs were there? In the first movie, there was one. Just one air bud. That was the dog who did Letterman, who could actually shoot baskets.

27:40Okay. But he died a week after we wrapped. Oh, no. What? He had cancer the whole time we were shooting. Get out of here. Yeah. Yeah. What a sad story. I know. And I think I was young enough that my parents were like, oh, he's not going to do the press tour. he's like he's got to be at home and i learned later he's dead wow that is a hard i had no idea