Hour 3: Week 14 ‘Higher Register’ Predictions, plus NFL Executive Hans Schroeder

4 Dec 2025 · 47 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Rich Eisen Show Hour 3 covers Week 14 NFL “Higher Register” predictions, plus NFL media/ratings and broadcasting strategy after Thanksgiving; it also includes college football coaching carousel talk (Penn State, Ole Miss/Lane Kiffin) and a Joe Burrow/Lane Kiffin reaction segment.

Guests

Hans Schroeder (NFL Executive Vice President, Media Distribution; oversees NFL media rights/distribution; hosted Thanksgiving with 18 people and three St. Bernards). “Higher Register” segment features multiple callers/analysts (Christopher, Jake, TJ) making Week 14 takes.

Key claims

Thanksgiving NFL viewership rose (about +6% season-to-date; Thanksgiving Day viewership up for three straight years; Dallas ~57+ million; Detroit ~48 million). NFL international games will expand (Brazil next year; Australia Week 1 in Melbourne; more markets planned). NFL Network’s 9:30am/930 window is growing (up 30% this year; six games). NFL Network’s future is tied to an ESPN partnership (announced August).

Notable examples

Coach Madden Thanksgiving tributes across CBS/Fox/NBC; 930 window reaching Europe/Asia; Rams “totally fine” prediction; Jaguars vs Colts “season wrap” if you lose; Dolphins’ playoff push scenario.

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Chapters

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Battery Comparison

0:00 to 0:31

A discussion comparing the uniqueness of batteries to soccer players, highlighting Duracell's special ingredients.

“That's like asking if all soccer players are the same.”

Battery Comparison

0:34 to 0:56

A discussion comparing the uniqueness of batteries to soccer players, highlighting Duracell's special ingredients.

“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”

Recap and Upcoming Guests

1:41 to 3:17

Rich Eisen reviews the previous segments and introduces upcoming guests, including NFL executive Hans Schroeder.

“Earlier on the show, Andrew Santino Senior NBA reporter Brian Wintour, still to come NFL Executive Vice President of Media Distributions Hans Schroeder And now, it's Rich Eisen.”

Call-In Discussion about Penn State Football

3:17 to 6:01

A call from a listener discussing the coaching situation at Penn State and their thoughts on Terry Smith.

“Higher Register is, you know, as always, you've got to go higher in order to believe what you think.”

Analyzing Coaching Candidates

6:01 to 7:30

A conversation on potential coaching candidates for Penn State football and the implications of recent coaching changes.

“and when you fire somebody in the middle of the season, you open up the top right drawer and you have a bunch of names of people that you would target.”

Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss Dynamics

7:30 to 12:06

Discussion on Lane Kiffin's coaching situation at Ole Miss and the potential playoff implications.

“Nobody's mentioned Brian Dayball for that gig.”

Joe Burrow on Lane Kiffin

12:06 to 14:00

Joe Burrow's reaction to Lane Kiffin's hiring at LSU and its impact on Ole Miss.

“with Lane's next offensive coordinator, Charlie Weiss Jr., coordinating that offense.”

Joe Burrow and Lane Kiffin's Coaching Impact

14:00 to 20:03

Discussion on Lane Kiffin's hiring at LSU and its effects on college football playoffs.

“In a way, just keep this in mind, sitting there now in the state of Ohio where everything did start for him as the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals asked about the Lane Kiffin hiring at LSU.”

Previewing Upcoming Guest Hans Schroeder

20:04 to 20:21

Introduction and transition to guest segment with NFL EVP Hans Schroeder.

“All right, when we come back, we'll talk about Joe Burrow beating the Ravens in front of wait for a 28.4 million viewers on Thanksgiving night.”

NFL Viewership and Thanksgiving Ratings

21:37 to 28:00

Hans Schroeder discusses NFL ratings, Thanksgiving matchups, and the future of international games.

“But this summer, during the FIFA World Cup, it's an invitation, America.”
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Expanding the NFL's Global Reach

28:00 to 29:19

Learn about the NFL's strategy for international games and growth opportunities.

“Are we looking to have a full season of international games that you're now going to sell off to another partner potentially?”

Engaging Fans in New Markets

29:20 to 31:38

Discover how the NFL is attracting local fans in international markets like Germany.

“But yeah, I think we're just still on the tip of the iceberg.”

Future of NFL Network and ESPN Partnership

31:39 to 33:48

Get insights into the future plans for NFL Network and its partnership with ESPN.

“We think NFL Network has done a great job building it.”

Personal Insights and Future Directions

33:49 to 38:20

Hear personal anecdotes and insights about the NFL's journey and future directions.

“Obviously, I echo that sentiment as somebody who's finishing this show on Disney Plus and ESPN app and ESPN radio today and then doing it on Friday and then doing game day morning for NFL Network on Sunday.”

Listener Interaction and Discussions

38:21 to 39:54

Listen to a caller's thoughts on college football and its implications for NFL coaching.

“Distribution right here on the Rich Eisen Show, and I expect a ratings boost just from that.”

NFL Coaching Speculations

42:00 to 43:36

Discussion on the potential of Marcus Freeman moving to the NFL and coaching dynamics.

“With that being said, we both root for extremely struggling franchises.”

Higher Register Thursday Introduction

43:36 to 44:10

Introduction to the predictions segment for NFL Week 14.

“Any NFL team with an opening this offseason will be interviewing.”

Predictions for Week 14 Matchups

44:10 to 45:50

The hosts share their takes on upcoming NFL games, focusing on key matchups.

“All right, Christopher, you're first up.”

Dolphins Playoff Hopes and Monday Night Football

45:50 to 47:11

Analysis of the Miami Dolphins' chances for the playoffs and a potential game matchup.

“I'm going to go completely out of the realm of sniffing it right now.”
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Transcript

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0:00Are all batteries the same? That's like asking if all soccer players are the same. Take Messi, the most decorated player ever. Is there any other player who has achieved that? No, just him. Now take Duracell. Is there any other battery with Power Boost ingredients inside? No, just Duracell. Remember, goats only trust goats because they're built different. And Messi only trusts Duracell.

0:31Rich Eisen:This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required, compatibility and availability varies 18+. This is The Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere.

1:05Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. Ladies and gentlemen Get ready, check this out This is the Rich Eisen Show

1:31Rich Eisen:Chris Paul, is this the worst retirement tour in the history of retirement tours? From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Earlier on the show, Andrew Santino Senior NBA reporter Brian Wintour, still to come NFL Executive Vice President of Media Distributions Hans Schroeder And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial to have a chat with us. We've got a ton of time for you here in this hour here on Disney +, the ESPN app, and of course, ESPN Radio presented by Progressive Insurance, Sirius XM Channel 80. Brian Winhurst was just awesome in hour number two.

2:16Rich Eisen:He always is talking about what's going on in the NBA with Giannis and Chris Paul. Hour number one. We've just been chopping up tonight's Thursday night game. Our buddy Andrew Santino has stopped by. Please, if you're in Southern California, certainly I'm talking to those who listen to us on ESPN Radio 710 here in Los Angeles. From 1230 to 4 at Los Angeles Valley College this very weekend. Come hang out. Ho-Ho Homers with Andrew Santino and his comedian buddies. But Kreischer and Bill Burr is going to stop by, among others. And every dollar raised out there. home run derby, a lot of fun going down and golfing and what have you in support of Special Olympics Southern California.

2:56Rich Eisen:844-204-RICH is the number to dial. One of the top executives in the National Football League, NFL Executive Vice President for Media Distribution, Hans Schroeder is going to join us to talk about all those ratings that we saw on Thanksgiving and what's going on for the future broadcasting in the National Football League as well. And he's going to join us shortly on the program in the middle of this hour. Higher Register is going to be joining our program later on. Higher Register is, you know, as always, you've got to go higher in order to believe what you think. I can't wait for that segment.

3:30Rich Eisen:That's a good one right there. Phone lines are all lit. Good Lord, do I love that. Let's go to Andrew in State College, Pennsylvania. 814. What's up, Andrew? Hey, Rich. It's an honor. How are you guys doing today? I'm doing fine. What's up, man? Andrew, it's great. Are you going to give us the exclusive that you're the next head coach of Penn State football? Is that what we got? Is that what's going on? Yeah. Yeah, me and my head dog are going to take our challenge up to State College. Hey, what's the name of your dog? Zeus. Zeus. Okay. That was awesome. Thank you. We just did it. So, real quick, from someone who's inside of this and, you know, deeply loves Penn State, there's a couple of things I just kind of want to, like laying out as we're getting ready to hit probably the end of the fiscal year before we get a head coach.

4:21But at this point, you know, the whole point of this operation was to have something in store. It didn't have to be immediately, but something, you know, within the short term,

4:36Rich Eisen:that's why you fire a coach in the middle of the season is you get in the head start. Right. It's like quitting a job and not having something lined up after that. You know what I mean? So I respect the effort that he put in, but I'm confused as in terms of where the logic lies in between the lines. Well, you're not alone. And from someone that comes from State College and someone who's pretty much devastated, just like everyone else, I think I could speak for the community of Penn State in that regard. You know, the option is simple. The option has been simple, you know, in my opinion, And since the end of that Iowa game, you at least have to give Terry Smith a shot.

5:18And Terry Smith is just, you know, this reminds me so much when Dan Campbell went to Detroit. Dan Campbell is the kind of guy that would literally coach that program for free. Terry Smith, if you go back and you watch Pat Craft's interview on the 13th of October, talking about someone who embodies Penn State, someone who's an elite motivator, and someone who can recruit well, especially in a really tough area in central Pennsylvania, I'm looking at the list and I'm looking at Terry Smith, Terry Smith, Terry Smith and Terry Smith. We're just confused, man. And my message is I love you guys. I love Penn State.

5:56We are forever. And I just really wanted to get your thoughts on this, man.

6:00Rich Eisen:Well, my thoughts on it, it's totally shocking that nobody's taken the gig. and when you fire somebody in the middle of the season, you open up the top right drawer and you have a bunch of names of people that you would target. The only thing is I don't think in a million years did they think they would be targeting anybody for James Franklin's firing in the middle of the season. But Terry Smith has done a credible job. There's no question about it. And he wants the gig. He's a former player, you know, and I just don't know how well you're going to do early on, certainly, with a guy who's clearly – like what letter in the alphabet?

6:47Rich Eisen:He's choice M, you know? I mean, you can spell – you can actually – he's choice P, S, and U. I don't think he minds that, though. He won't mind it because he's, at the end of the day, the head coach of Penn State football, which is all that will matter to him, and he'll get to work and he'll roll his sleeves up. And thanks for the call, Andrew, is that he's going to have to do that because we're already in the early signing period. And, you know, do you see how many new Hokies there are that James Franklin is quite familiar with from his Penn State days? So, you know, but as a Michigan fan, I will say this, you know, collectively, the coaches that they've reached out to have said, we are not taking the job.

7:29Rich Eisen:That's so rude. Okay. That is so rude. Nobody's mentioned Brian Dayball for that gig. Except us and a lot of other people, I guess. But I don't know. Because that would be a pretty... It would be a home run. Well, I mean, the last time they reached into the NFL coaching ranks, Bob went up there and turned things around in a much more strident environment. Different things going on. This also reminds me, talking about the Penn State job, still being open. We haven't talked about Lane Kiffin on this program. We've got to make it four days in a row, right? We're obligated. Well, I mean, it's something that's constantly happening.

8:04Rich Eisen:Something's going on. Let me get this program correct here. The athletic director, Keith Carter, or as he's known on the website, I wrote it down here, Ole Miss' website, the vice chancellor for intercollegiate athletics. What a fancy title for athletic director. That's a great title. Would you mind if you referred to me as the chancellor of the Rich Eisen Show? From now on? I give you guys vice chancellor titles? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I'll take that. Pardon me, Chancellor Eisen. Did somebody go up to Keith Carter and say, would you like to be known as the vice chancellor around here? Please. That'd be great.

8:46I like that.

8:47Rich Eisen:He's a director of athletics of more than just football. He's intercollegiate. At any rate. He was on with Richard Cross on Super Talk Mississippi, everybody. Yes. And he spoke. Pete Golding, as you know, the head coach, new head coach, he just basically said, we're not having a coaching search. Lane, you're out. Pete, you're in. And we're going to have, hopefully, a reaction to your hiring in the same way that LSU's previous hire left for Notre Dame and Marcus Freeman, who is, you know, hailed as a conquering hero when he walked in the door. And I love using Michigan analogies and phrases in reference to Notre Dame.

9:28Of course.

9:29Rich Eisen:But at any rate, I digress. He was asked about Lane talking, being so surprised that he was not able to coach the team after he was leaving for LSU. This is what the vice chancellor of intercollegiate athletics had to say about that characterization. There's been a lot of things he said publicly that I'm not sure are totally accurate. You know, I think that both coach and his representation knew several weeks ago that the coaching in the playoffs was not going to be an option if he was not the Ole Miss head coach. So him finding out at 8.30 on Sunday morning for the very first time that he would not be coaching the playoff is not accurate?

10:13No, that's not accurate. That's not accurate. The only thing that was a little bit of a wrinkle in it, Richard, was the fact that if Auburn had beaten Alabama, we were going to play in the SEC championship. That threw a little wrinkle in it not to say he would have coached in that game but with the shorter time period that was you know that was maybe the only little nuance to it but absolutely it was very clear that you know coaching in the postseason was not going to be an option for coach kiffin you know a few weeks ago could you imagine if auburn had beaten alabama

10:47Rich Eisen:right this would still be going on well kill and deborah might not be the head coach of alabama That's true. And if that happens, anyway, by the way, regardless, that's one of the things I just love seeing online. All these people are like, if Alabama's job comes open, Lane might not coach a single game for LSU. Right. Ink is just dry. What's that buyout, 80 %? It's not 100%, it's 80 %? Oh, I haven't bought the house yet. You want to pay my mortgage in Oxford? Well, LSU paid for my old house and then my house I didn't move into in LSU and then my new one. Have you seen all the Ole Miss players that have been tweeting out?

11:33Rich Eisen:Yeah, Lane, your statement isn't accurate. Yeah, we were. Sunterine Perkins, the linebacker there in Ole Miss. That was not the message you said in the meeting room. Everybody that was there can vouch for this about, you know, wanting to stay and all that. Well, whatever. It's just, it's ugly. And again, at some point, Pete Golding's Ole Miss is going to get out there on a field in a winner-go-home college football playoff game later on this month. It's going to happen. All right. with Lane's next offensive coordinator, Charlie Weiss Jr., coordinating that offense. It's going to happen. We're going to see what happens.

12:18Rich Eisen:And then at some point, Lane is going to bring his LSU Tigers or Crimson Tide into, wait a minute. No, he's going to bring his LSU Tigers into Oxford next year. It's going to be on. The lead-up to that game is going to be intense. We're all going to be talking about it. those are the only facts that I think are without dispute by everybody at the end of the day that's going to happen and I can't wait for it it's going to be fun we're going to find out who Ole Miss is going to play on Sunday night who's it going to be then there'll be recriminations if BYU wins one of many coaches that told Penn State no thanks and he's going to be sitting there, Pete Golding, finding out who it is, and we're going to be arguing.

13:10Should BYU or Alabama or Miami?

13:16Rich Eisen:I know Michigan's not one of them. Trust me, I wish they were. But it's not. Oh, and the whole Lane Kiffin thing, being hired by LSU, was brought up to Joe Burrow. and Joe Joe is just the greatest man I just I just love his reactions great Susie sent this one to me I didn't see this one until she sent it to me this morning and I'm like okay this has got to get in the rundown Burrow was asked about let's not forget okay okay Joe is a little busy alright and as you know LSU is a spot that allowed him to become Joe Burrow the place that initially took him told him to beat it. In a way, just keep this in mind, sitting there now in the state of Ohio where everything did start for him as the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals asked about the Lane Kiffin hiring at LSU.

14:19I think he's a good coach. I guess we'll see how it goes. Those are my thoughts. Did Blaine ever recruit you at any point in time? No. No. Could you imagine playing in college football playoff or getting ready to

14:37Rich Eisen:and your coach leaving? Is Ole Miss going to make the playoff? Yeah. Yeah, it's certainly not an ideal situation.

14:50But does the rest of the staff stay or do they go too?

14:53Rich Eisen:I think you let the OC loose to go be a play caller. Yeah, certainly an ideal situation for a playoff run, that's for sure. Here you go. Okay, so now... That first look. The first look, yeah.

15:12Rich Eisen:First of all, Lane was being left on a tarmac out here in Southern California when Joe was being recruited. so I don't unless he was asking this kid from Athens to come out to Southern California I looked it up you don't have to look it up you did? yeah so and then his senior year is when Lane wound up being the OC at Alabama when Ohio State took him interesting and then as you know he still so I Joe as you know associates himself with Ohio State just as much as LSU and I like having fun at the expense of that he had to go somewhere else, but he does love Ohio State football. He talks about it all the time.

15:57Listen, and plus also having no idea what's going on with Lane Kiffin.

16:05Rich Eisen:No idea. There's Ole Miss making the playoffs. Yeah, exactly. You know, wait a minute. What's happening that everyone else is talking about? You know what I'm thinking when I hear that? He's in his playbook. He's in his bag is what I'm saying. He ain't got time for nothing else. He's got no time for watching television. This show, first take, get up, all of them. Pat, he's not watching it. How else would he not? He doesn't know Ole Miss is making the college football playoff. That's the whole point about Lane leaving for his school. Awesome all year. That shows me he's locked in, and the Bengals season is not over.

16:48Rich Eisen:Joe has no idea he's carrying the water for me right now. None. God, I love this guy. And I just love his facial expressions. Yeah, I like that too. I'm Joe Burrow. I'm quarterbacking the Cincinnati Bengals. I ain't got time for that. I don't have time for this. He's thinking about what he wants to say, though. He's always sitting there like, because he knows if I say this, it's going to come across. Wait a minute. What are they saying? Ole Miss is making the playoffs? Hmm. Oh, and so, coaching the team? Who's coaching the team? And can they take the assistants? Oh, God, it's so great. Because we're so hyper-aware and sensitive.

17:26Rich Eisen:You know who's not? Joe Burr. Joe Burr. Coming to Western New York to take on the Bills for the surging Cincinnati Bay. Not out of it, Cincinnati Bay. Oh, look, he's bringing his coat, he's putting his hands through his hair, and he is just dominating every facet. He looks like an Abercrombie model from the 90s. He really does. I think it is just terrific. I think it is just terrific because he's locked in. Abercrombie always smelled good. What? You know that microphone's on, right? It did always smell good. You remember going into Abercrombie in the 90s? It always smelled good. No, I don't remember going into Abercrombie in the 90s.

18:08You know what else smelled good? Banana Republic's always smelled good.

18:11Rich Eisen:Dude, you know what I was doing in the 90s? I was chasing stories in Staten Island, New York. You were chasing something? Different stories. Stories. What's the matter with you people? You know where there wasn't an Abercrombie? There wasn't an Abercrombie in Staten Island or Redding, California. No, or Bristol, Connecticut. I thought you were part of New York. How do you not have an Abercrombie in Staten Island? What was the mall on Staten Island? Oh, it's a Staten Island mall. Very famous mall. There definitely was an Abercrombie. But you know what you were smelling in the Staten Island mall when you walked outside?

18:42Rich Eisen:The world's largest garbage dump. Guys. Pretzels. Guys. The world's largest garbage dump. The Fresh Kills landfill where every single New Yorker dump their frigging trash. Okay. Let's put it on a barge. Let's put it all the way across and dump it. Sam McCrombie stinks. Dude, it was terrible. And you know what was there too? The first ever Staten Island multiplex movie theater. and a racquetball court called the Court of Appeals. Shut up. Yes. The logo was Ben Franklin with a racquetball racket in his hand. I'll never forget it. You'd walk out in a full-on sweat after playing racquetball or after watching a movie or shopping in the mall, and you'd be like, it stinks.

19:30Rich Eisen:Thank God they closed that place. Do you have a Chuck E. Cheese? I don't know. There's a lot. I was shopping at Abercrombie, and if I was, what would stink would be somebody's banana peel from the Bronx from three weeks ago. It closed in 2001. Damn straight it did. Where did they dump the trash now? I don't care. You know why? Because I'm paying attention to Joe Burrow in the same way Joe Burrow is. There's no other headlines for me. God bless Joe Burrow. You go win and make me right, Joe. Make me right, Joe. All right, when we come back, we'll talk about Joe Burrow beating the Ravens in front of wait for a 28.4 million viewers on Thanksgiving night.

20:12Rich Eisen:That's almost good. The NFL EVP of media distribution, Hans Schroeder, is about to join us. He's zooming in right now. That's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Rich Eisen here, and summer's here too. And that means it's travel season. My favorite summer trip last year was to Sao Paulo, Brazil. With so many fans traveling for the Los Angeles against Kansas City game, they got to see how lively the city is. I love the culture and the amazing food that I'm still craving. Those memories remind everyone that it's that time of year to plan a little getaway. And that's why summer has a way of turning weekends into big events.

20:50Rich Eisen:One minute, it's a normal week. And then all of a sudden, a huge concert, sporting event, or festival brings people in from all over. And when that happens, visitors start looking for places to stay all across your city. So if you're already planning a summer trip of your own, you could list your space on Airbnb and earn a little extra cash while you're away. It doesn't have to be some big year-round commitment. It's about making the most of a busy weekend when your place would just be empty otherwise. I can tell you, people love finding a place that helps them feel connected to the city that they're visiting.

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21:22Rich Eisen:If your city's about to have a big summer moment, this is a great time to maximize your space. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.com slash host. A bandwagon fan. The biggest insult in sports. But this summer, during the FIFA World Cup, it's an invitation, America. Never watched soccer before? Perfect. Think a corner kick is a karate move? Sure, why not? prefer sports where players can use their hands me too just here for the snacks now we're talking so grab a bag of lays and jump on the bandwagon we're undefeated lays the official sponsor of the fifa world cup 2026 the rich isa show podcast guys sit up straight nfl management's about to join us here okay clean up your workspace let me get mine ready hold on a minute joining us here There is none other than the executive vice president of the National Football League in charge of media distribution, Hans Schroeder.

22:25Rich Eisen:Good to see you, Hans. How are you? Great to see you, Rich and crew, and hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving, and thanks for having me on. Come on, man. I'm sure you did. Were you anywhere? Were you home with the fam watching the rest of America? Where were you? We were home hosting about 18 people for Thanksgiving, our three St. Bernards. It was a full house. Everybody watching football, including the pups. So we had an incredible Thanksgiving weekend. It was the epitome of what Coach Madden said about food, family, and football being all together. Hans, you've got three St. Bernards. What are you doing when you're not an executive vice president?

23:07Rich Eisen:And you're mountain rescue? What are you doing? What is this? They're keeping the streets of Rye safe, Rich. It's Rye New York, the tough streets. The mean streets of Rye. If you're stuck in the snow, knock on the Schroeder's front door and ask for St. Bernard help. I love that, man. That is fantastic. I will tell you, they're big NFL viewers, though. They're with me every Sunday, Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night. They're on the couch with me watching. Brother, I'm telling you, like everyone else, did these numbers even surprise you, Hans? Look, starting just quickly, the season's been incredible today.

23:45You know, we're up 6%. I think we're pacing to be, you know, if not our highest viewed right now, we're sitting behind that 2015 high water mark. So it's been an incredible season overall to date. And, you know, as we went into Thanksgiving, we've had three straight years going into this year of just more and more viewership on Thanksgiving Day. And, you know, this year we had a ton of great matchups and some really fun ones with the NFC East, you know, playing the NFC North with the AFC North playing the NFC North. And we looked at those matchups when we did the schedule last spring and we said, you know what, let's really look at some of these windows that stand apart, whether it's kickoff or Thanksgiving.

24:23And let's see how high up can be here. And look, I think we thought there was a lot of opportunity. We thought, you know, there was audience there that fully hadn't been captured before. But, you know, even to get to the levels of 57-plus million for that game in Dallas or almost 48 in Detroit, we're talking levels of championship games. And so that was incredible to see. And I think reinforcing to us about let's continue to push here. Let's see where our fans are and how we best serve them. So what an incredible day. And finished NBC at their highest game ever Thursday night, too. So just an awesome Thanksgiving all around.

25:00Rich Eisen:And I love the Madden stuff, too, Holmes. You know, I love what a great idea that was. You know, it's four years now and counting. And, you know, it's just great nostalgia for, you know, people my age or even a little bit older and some maybe even younger. And for me to turn to my kids as we're watching. And so they I'm like, yeah, that video game guy. No, no, no. Sit down and take a look, you know, about what he what he is as well or was, you know, it's pretty cool. Well, Rich, it's such a great point. And, like, for, again, I'm in that same sort of age group and sort of you just think about how special Coach Madden was and how many people he brought into football.

25:42But on Thanksgiving and that unique day, and the cool part is he worked for all of our partners at one point in time. He looked clean. And so, you know, it's an idea to give credit where credit's due. I think Pete Abitante and some of the folks at the league, Roger and the commissioner says, like, how can we push? and celebrate Coach here, but our partners have really jumped on board there. And what really brings that to life in the best way is what they do authentically with his presence, with his history on Thanksgiving. And to me, that was really magical how they did that across all three games on Thursday with the tribute from Coach's presence on each of their networks.

26:22It was really cool.

26:23Rich Eisen:That's right. All three of them have video of him in their booths, CBS, Fox, and NBC. And I just loved, I mentioned it the other day on the show here, Jason Garrett's stories that he was able to share, including that menu from a dinner that he was having with Madden talking about Derek Jeter's famous flip play in a playoff game. And I'm saying, you know, you just choose Jeter first and then decide what sport you're playing next. And then they had a draft of other athletes in that regard. And then he had the menu of the writing down of his team and Madden's team in that, you know, you can't beat it.

27:02Rich Eisen:That was great. That was so great, so cool. The keeping of the turkey leg was a bit interesting and how long that stayed in his freezer. He and Brill need to go to that freezer a little bit more. I wanted him to open it up just to see what does a 30-year-old frozen turkey leg administered post-game to him by John Madden. What does that look like? It's a keeper. you know everybody took me the leg right i know i love that han schroeder here the nfl evp of media distribution here uh on the rich eyes and show after a monster weekend for uh the thanksgiving weekend and season uh for for the ratings and uh partners of the national football league here on the rich eyes and show so uh let me hit you on a few other uh subject matters that i'm sure are on your plate i'm sure you're asked about it a lot uh the international series you I've been calling a few of these games.

27:57Rich Eisen:Where do we go from where it currently is? Are we looking to have a full season of international games that you're now going to sell off to another partner potentially? Is that the idea here, Hans? Look, I think the idea starts with just continuing to grow the game, and we think there's so much opportunity ahead of us. We're going to have flag football in the Olympics in 28, and hopefully Brisbane after that. But you, Rich, maybe even better than me, you're there. You're part of it every year. You've seen the games, whether in London or whether in Germany or this past year in Sao Paulo, and that excitement and the energy and what we see in each of those markets where we take our games, for us, it's only reinforced the view of there's more opportunity out there.

28:42And we think, and certainly I believe, it's the greatest game there is. And so the more opportunity to bring that to more people around the world, we think that's a good thing. I think we definitely know we're excited. We'll be back in Brazil next year in Rio. We're also going to be back in Australia, which is a super fun way to start the year in Melbourne with week one. And I think we're working on the rest of the schedule and where else we'll be around the globe. But I think you'll see that continue to grow. The commissioner's been pretty public about his view that there's an opportunity to play more games.

29:13So need a little bit more time to lock in that schedule next year. Hopefully you'll be part of it. Sure. in some way, shape, or form, because you do such a great job with those games. But yeah, I think we're just still on the tip of the iceberg. And look, we're always sensitive. We know we're taking those games and sometimes out of home markets. But, you know, it's an awesome thing to see some of those clubs be celebrated in those different markets around the world. And again, we just think there's a lot more there ahead of us.

29:41Rich Eisen:No, I hear you. I mean, you're meeting fans where they are. I see it. And again, games in Germany, for instance, it's not people who sound like us. They're legit locals that are going to this game that might have fallen in love with it from the NFL Europe days. Well, they're named like me, though. I have met a few Hanses and Schroeders. I have met them. But it's for real. And the NBA shouldn't be one of the only sports that actually sells itself abroad from the United States. and the NFL does have fans where they meet them. And I'll tell you, I do speak to friends of mine who love the four windows of football.

30:21Rich Eisen:They just love, you know, that fourth morning window of football. And certainly it's a little bit early out here in Los Angeles, but it's awesome. And for those of us who work at NFL Network, it's great to see games on our air as well. You know, the question is, are you hearing from partners of the NFL saying, we want to get in on this? So let's get more of these games as fourth window and we'll take a package from you? Absolutely. And look, you hit on a great point. The NFL Network, I think we're up over 30 % this year with those 930 windows. They've had six games in that time slot. And look, I think certainly we have a lot of considerations there with West Coast fans for West Coast teams.

31:01But, you know, we look at that 930 window. It's an incremental way to just give fans more football on a Sunday, which we think is exciting. It's also internationally. Actually, it's in a time slot that gets games into a really attractive viewing period in Europe, also reaches parts of Asia in primetime on Sunday where some of our other games don't do that. So as we think about engaging the world, we really thought that 930 slot and believe that 930 slots becoming more and more, you know, embraced by our fan base and excited that there's just more football on those Sundays. And so, you know, we definitely think it's something we're going to build on.

31:37We've certainly had other partners ask about it. We think NFL Network has done a great job building it. So, you know, we'll see where the future goes. But I think, you know, we're here to stay at 930, and there's probably going to be more of them in the future.

31:49Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, again, speaking on behalf of all of my colleagues and yours as well, you know, at NFL Network, we love it. It's great. And, you know, obviously we love being NFL Network as well. So if you don't mind me asking here, what's the future for NFL Network that you can share with me and everyone else? I know this is sort of the internal stuff that we talk about on our team meetings and things like that. Where do things stand on that front, on the media? Well, we announced, you know, the partnership with ESPN back in August. And I think we've been working hard and continuing in advance through that process.

32:28Look, for me, and having been around, you know, I started my career at the NFL in 2001. One of the first things I did in 2003 was work and help develop the business plan and be part of the team that launched NFL Network. Saw you come on board and many, many others working with Steve, Wernstein and team. It's been amazing to see the ride, but the media landscape continues to change. And so one of the real exciting things to me about this partnership is it's going to find a home for NFL Network for the future that's going to make it stronger. It's going to make it stronger for the network. It's going to make it stronger for the fans and football fans everywhere.

33:05When you think about what ESPN can bring and add to the network with all their production capabilities, all their infrastructure, what they invest in football and what they'll continue to invest and grow from a football fan perspective, We think it's only going to make networks stronger, more programming, more distribution in the future, including on ESPN Unlimited. So I'm pretty excited about how the journey of the NFL network has continued through different phases. And I think the next chapter ahead with ESPN is a really exciting one. So a lot of work to get there. But hopefully, as the landscape changes around us, this is a way to sort of have a bigger and better future for NFL network.

33:48Rich Eisen:Well, listen, I've mentioned this to you off air. I'll say it here on air. Obviously, I echo that sentiment as somebody who's finishing this show on Disney Plus and ESPN app and ESPN radio today and then doing it on Friday and then doing game day morning for NFL Network on Sunday. I'm kind of standing in the middle of of waiting. Is there, you know, I understand this is like Fight Club. Do we know when T's are crossed and I's dotted on this? What do you think? We're still working through the process, Richard. Nothing more I can really add or share there. But we're hard at it and on both ends. And we're going to stay at it.

34:24And again, we think there's a great day ahead for both NFL Network and ESPN. But you're right. You're at this interesting place you can see into both worlds and hopefully see why we think that vision of how it can come together is such a great one.

34:36Rich Eisen:I live it every day. Yeah. I'm not just saying that because we're on live Disney air right now. But I do live it every day. And in terms of that, I love living it every day. You know, my contract's up next year, Hans. I'm going to send you a term sheet. I'm going to cross Lane Kiffin's name out and just put my name in and sign it, send it to you. Just send it back to me whenever you want, okay? And it will be interesting to see who you take with you too, Rich. No, no, I'm not going anywhere. No, no, no. No, no, no. Forget about the leaving stuff. This is the staying. You know, and there'll be some numbers on it.

35:12Rich Eisen:I'm not aware of what they are. You know, I don't know what they are. I've just heard they're good. I'm just going to send it to you. Just again, it's rich lane. Same number of letters. Just going to cross it out. Kiffin's a little longer than eyes and it might be a little bit different, but just I'll sign it. You send it back and then we're good. Right. There we go. Okay. There we go. It's done. This is binding guys. This is binding. Well, you know, I heard it. Feller is, you know, binding. He's, you know, yeah. My, my, my audio executive who was working the board over there, He says he was a notary.

35:44Rich Eisen:So you are now, right? Yeah, absolutely. Got you. Official. See, there we go. Hans ain't buying it. All right. Very good. And the Super Bowl in Santa Clara, once again, Super Bowl 60. That's going down. Any idea? When are we going to hear more cities named? Where are we on that for down the road for future Super Bowls? Hans, anything that you can share? Kelly and team are hardworking at the rich. Obviously, there's a ton of interest. And, you know, everywhere we go, that's another area. You know, you talk about the viewership and how that just continues to grow on Thanksgiving. What's that number looking like?

36:25Rich Eisen:Give me a number. What do you think for Super Bowl 60 based on these numbers, right? I know you don't want to talk. That's Fight Club. I know we don't want to talk about that. We're putting anything in the lead. I just think to your question, like the Super Bowl, regardless of where it is, they continue to make it bigger, better, you know, and you see that certainly how it comes to life when you're in a city over those weekends. But you also see that for our fans and how it comes to life with our partners. So, you know, nothing to share there, but hopefully, you know, that we're excited about sort of the opportunities in the cities that we have ahead of us with Super Bowl.

37:01You know, it's a great selection, a lot of interest, and I think that'll be great. You know, as we look out where we're going to be.

37:07Rich Eisen:Yeah, let me know however I can help hosting here in Los Angeles next year. My house is yours, Hans, as you know, always. Thank you, Rich. That's very kind of you. Who's that photograph of over your left shoulder? Who is that person? That is my father. No kidding. Back in sort of 19, I think, 62, he was a young coach at West Point where he soon worked with Bill Parcells and a bunch of Bill Battle and Ken Hatfield and was sort of a cradle of coaches in the early 60s in West Point. And so I just thought that was a special one. One of our partners sent me that a few years ago. And, you know, he passed a few years ago actually on Super Bowl morning.

37:49But it was something I, you know, wanted his presence. And, you know, he obviously was sort of formulative in shaping my love for the sport and playing the sport and otherwise. So a great way to sort of remember dad every day.

38:00Rich Eisen:Football is family, right? That's what we always say. Hans, thanks for the time, man. I appreciate you coming on here. Anytime. Anytime. Thanks, buddy. Anytime, man. Stay well. Have a great holiday season. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving, and thanks for having me. You got it, man. I'll see you on game day morning, Sunday morning, all four hours. Yes, you will. I will be there. That's Hans Schroeder, everybody. NFL Executive Vice President of Media Distribution right here on the Rich Eisen Show, and I expect a ratings boost just from that. Millions. I wonder if the dogs travel with Hans. St.

38:31Rich Eisen:Bernard's do not travel my dad. Three safer cars. Three of them. That's a lot of dogs. Three of them. It's going to be a big couch. I think you might have to ask the ultimate boss for a Lyft to make that all work. And I don't mean a car. Oh, no. Do you think the term sheet's going to get signed? Absolutely. No.

38:53The notary seal will not be official. Because it wasn't on the actual page. So that entire conversation is like

38:59Rich Eisen:the yellow line on the screen. It's not official. That's what you're saying? Unofficial. All right. Just cross it out. Good try. Cross out Lane Kiffin. Just scroll in. I had to go for it. Rich Eisen and see how it works. I mean, was Hans inviting you to Australia? I took it that way. Oh. Yeah. That's what I picked up. I'll put a shrimp on that, Barbie. Plus three. No, no, no. I don't know who you people are anymore. See, that's what happens, Chris. People get, you know, they get success and then they forget. That's so cold. Or I should have said, as I throw the break, sounds like a great idea.

39:34Rich Eisen:Sure, you guys can come. That sounds great. Thank you. Let me work on that. Give us that 17 % Dallas Cowboy chance. Yeah, roll your break. That'll be great.

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41:22Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast. Back here on The Rich Eisen Show, ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. See why over 43 million drivers trust Progressive to stay protected on the road. See for yourself at progressive.com. Bert in Ann Arbor, Michigan is definitely not Breer here on the Rich Eisen Show. Been hanging on for almost three hours. What's up, Bert? What's going on, Rich? How are you today? You tell me what's going on there, Bert. What's happening there? So, long-time listener, first-time caller. I can't thank you. You know, I can't thank you enough as a fellow New Yorker, a fellow Los Angelino, and a Michigan man for your work over the years.

42:01Rich Eisen:Damn, look at all of us. We're all part of the same world. Fantastic. With that being said, we both root for extremely struggling franchises. I root for the Raiders. And look, as a Michigan man, I hope this does not happen. But Notre Dame makes the playoff, and they win a national title. Do you think that makes Marcus Freeman think a little bit more about the NFL? Oh, I see what you're saying. That if Freeman accomplishes a mission in Notre Dame, it'll make him more apt to take a job in the NFL is what you're saying. Correct. All right. Interesting. I can't speak for him, but regardless, Regardless, he doesn't have to win a damn thing for the NFL to be falling all over themselves for this guy.

43:00Rich Eisen:Every year, by the way. I mean, every possible year. And thanks for the call, Bert. I appreciate your sentiments and us sharing the same background. And I love how he's like, heaven forbid Notre Dame wins it all. You remember last year, I told him and I told Rodney Leonard, this guy is too nice. I want to root against him for being the Notre Dame guy. I know, right? Certainly since he played for Ohio State as well, I should hate his guts. It's the exact opposite. Can't do it. I think the Giants would fall all over themselves, and any NFL team would fall all over themselves to get him in a meeting room and see if they could convince him.

43:37Rich Eisen:Any NFL team with an opening this offseason will be interviewing. I just don't even know if he would take the meetings. But again, the reason why I'd get out of college is you're just – go to the pros. Go where they actually have rules. and you're in a spot where the rules keep changing. And the rules are even changing about what we're applying to the standard of who makes the playoffs or not. And he's in the middle of all that right now. 844-204-RICH, number to dial. It's Thursday. It's time for Higher Register Thursday. Hit it. Hit it. There's a chance. The Rich Eisen shows. But there could be.

44:17Higher Register. Take of the week.

44:20Rich Eisen:All right, Christopher, you're first up. Give me a high register take of the week for week 14. There's a lot to choose from here. A lot to choose from. And maybe not a sexy game, but I am looking at the road team in this one. Bad loss last week after they were on top of everyone's power rankings. And you know the Cardinals have been pretty frisky this season. They like to wing it around. And I look at this and I just think the Rams are totally fine. There's nothing to see here. Oh, boy. You went high register than the Rams. They're totally fine. They are totally fine. I agree with you. Nothing to see.

44:53Rich Eisen:But you're going higher register. They're at Arizona. Okay. Jake, brisket's frisky. Marv is back. Okay. Getting a little healthier. That's a fantasy thing right there. What do you got over there, TJ? Interesting that you do that. Just saying. A Ram season ticket holder. Totally fine. So you're like, whose house? The Ram's house? The Ram's house? Wow, you don't normally go higher register. Normally it's very declarative as to whose house it is. TJ? All right, guys. So we got a big AFC South matchup this weekend, right? We got the eight and four Jaguars hosting the eight and four Colts. Yes. And, you know, as I'm sitting here looking at stuff, Rich, and just kind of making my opinion and my thought known to you on this, the losing team between the Jags and the Colts, they're going to end up missing the playoffs.

45:40Rich Eisen:Wow. Yeah. They can change their name to Saran because it's a wrap. I'm telling you, one of these teams, whoever loses, reserve the U-Hauls. That's a bold statement. It's over. That's a bold statement. I'm going to go completely out of the realm of sniffing it right now. Team that's trying to get into the sniffing it realm. And they have with a few wins in a row. And they're taking on the Jets. And I know Atlanta couldn't pull off that win in MetLife last week. But the Miami Dolphins really do have a shot at this. they win this one, they've got a game of four to take on the Steelers, to get back to 500, oh, they've got Cincinnati and Tampa, and they're not New England, so, all right, let me rephrase here.

46:28Rich Eisen:So they've got to win eight games in a row? No, let me rephrase. The Miami Dolphins really do have a shot at making this close. I'm right there with you. I mean, I know I'm kind of cutting around the edges here, but the Dolphins really do have a shot at making this close. I mean, if they went out, they're 10-7. 10-7. And the Chiefs are taking on the Texans, and the Steelers could be 6-7. That's right, they are. It could be 6-7 hosting 6-7 next week. 6-7. And now we're really close. Could you imagine if it's 6-7 versus 6-7 on Monday Night Football? Oh, my gosh. Kedj will be so happy. Oh, my God.

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