Hour 3: What’s More Likely, NFL Week 4’s Top Games, plus Kevin Pollak In-Studio

26 Sep 2025 · 47 min · 16 chapters

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In short

Hour 3 of The Rich Eisen Show focuses on NFL Week 4 “What’s More Likely” prop-style debates (notably Cowboys vs. Micah Parsons’ revenge narrative), Rich’s top five Week 4 matchups, and a long in-studio conversation with actor/comedian Kevin Pollak about Tulsa King (Season 3 on Paramount+).

Key claims

Micah Parsons’ return to Dallas will be disruptive but can be neutralized by studying when he “sucked” and replicating opponents’ tactics; NFC North is still strong, but Rich leans NFC West for playoff teams; Malik Nabors is more likely to break out than Brian Thomas Jr.; Chiefs dropping to 1–3 is more likely than Baker Mayfield repeating a last-minute comeback; Bills winning margin vs. Saints is more likely than a Ryder Cup Team USA score.

Notable examples

Seattle’s Thursday win; “stupid play” with CD Lamb in the backfield; Colts vs. Rams in Week 4; Eagles at Buccaneers.

Guests

Kevin Pollak (actor/comedian; Tulsa King Season 3 cast member). Other referenced guests: Tom Pelissero and Steve Young (earlier on the show).

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Welcome and Show Highlights

0:00 to 0:26

Rich Eisen welcomes listeners and shares highlights of the upcoming show.

“As soccer takes center stage this summer, Comcast helps bring the experience home to America.”

Welcome and Show Highlights

1:30 to 2:15

Rich Eisen welcomes listeners and shares highlights of the upcoming show.

“Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.”

Discussing NFL Week 4's Top Games

2:15 to 3:10

Rich talks about the top games to watch in NFL Week 4, including a revenge game featuring Micah Parsons.

“um and he's the greatest kp is here for hour number three that rhymes uh tulsa king he's in the newest season of tulsa king so is samuel jackson jr man sam jackson um so um feller and I were ready.”

Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones

3:10 to 4:02

Rich discusses Micah Parsons' communication with Jerry Jones leading up to their game.

“Just talked about the revenge game of Micah Parsons coming back to Dallas.”

Analyzing Micah's Impact

4:02 to 6:18

Rich analyzes Micah Parsons' strengths and weaknesses and how they could affect the game.

“board thing and so at least Jerry's done talking for the week right?”

What's More Likely: Micah vs. Dak

6:18 to 8:30

They engage in a fun discussion on what's more likely in the upcoming game between Micah Parsons and Dak Prescott.

“There are times when other teams did well enough against Micah because we didn't win the Super Bowl when he was here.”

Quarterback Comparisons and Predictions

8:30 to 13:20

A debate on various quarterbacks and predictions for their performances this week.

“One and a half sacks would be a nice night for Micah.”

Baker Mayfield and Chiefs Predictions

13:20 to 14:01

Rich and the crew discuss Baker Mayfield's chances and the likelihood of the Chiefs dropping to 1-3.

“Well, the Giants are going to be trailing, so I imagine Dart can back up some yards.”

NFL Week 4 Predictions: Chiefs vs. Baker Mayfield

14:01 to 18:10

Discussion on the likelihood of Baker Mayfield's comeback versus the Chiefs' potential loss.

“That spread should not be six and a half.”

Upcoming Guest Introduction: Kevin Pollak

18:10 to 18:45

Introduction of Kevin Pollak and his latest project, Tulsa King.

“It's always a lot of fun when Kevin Pollack stops by.”
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Kevin Pollak Discusses Working with Stallone

20:04 to 23:24

Kevin Pollak shares insights about working with Sylvester Stallone on Tulsa King.

“Just showed a clip of Paramount Plus' Tulsa King.”

Niners Fan Kevin Pollak on Brock Purdy

23:24 to 28:00

Kevin Pollak shares his experiences as a lifelong 49ers fan and discusses Brock Purdy.

“Yeah, and you got Robert Patrick on the show as well.”

Kevin Pollak's Car Delivery Story

28:00 to 37:18

Kevin Pollak shares a humorous story about acquiring a Lexus coupe during a movie shoot.

Behind-the-Scenes of A Few Good Men

37:18 to 41:16

Kevin discusses rehearsals and interactions with Jack Nicholson and Rob Reiner on set.

“Can't wait to see where everything goes.”

FIFA World Cup and Lays Promotion

43:02 to 43:32

Discussion of Lays as the official sponsor of the FIFA World Cup 2026.

“Just want to let you know about the Hyundai Palisade Hybrid.”

NFL Week 4 Matchups Overview

43:42 to 47:12

Get insights on the top NFL games for Week 4, including key matchups and player performances.

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1:17Rich Eisen:But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. And the kick is good! The Seahawks win the game! Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Do you think we've seen the last of Russell Wilson? Honestly, I hope we have. I'm not done. Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero, pro football Hall of Famer Steve Young. Coming up, actor and comedian Kevin Pollak. And now, it's Rich Eisen. hour number three the rich eisen show is on the air quite honestly uh almost missed uh being in this chair uh for this show open for hour number three because we uh just had a great chat with kevin pollock in the back i haven't seen him in a while um and he's the greatest kp is here for hour number three that rhymes uh tulsa king he's in the newest season of tulsa king so is samuel jackson jr man sam jackson um so um feller and I were ready.

2:30Rich Eisen:I was kind of hoping you didn't make it back out. No. Season three of Tulsa King on the air. Sly Stallone and, as we all know, Tulsa Kings. Oh, yeah. It's coming in hot, bro. Can't wait. So currently on Paramount Plus, as it always is, anything you do with Taylor Sheridan is on Paramount Plus. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. We're going to do What's More Likely, then Kevin Pollack's going to come out. we just hit this with Steve Young about a revenge game coming up on Sunday Night Football. I have my top five games that I'm looking forward to seeing in the rest of week four that kicked off with a Seattle Seahawks victory in Arizona on Thursday night.

3:14Rich Eisen:Just talked about the revenge game of Micah Parsons coming back to Dallas. And so we heard from Micah first this week when he chatted with the Associated Press. then we heard from jerry in his 105.3 the fan weekly appearance yeah locally in the metroplex then we heard from micah again talk about how he has not spoken with jerry at all since otas which is by the way the spring which means they didn't even say a word to each other in training camp when he was sitting there standing there various forms of not practicing uh all of that and so there really hasn't been a lot of back and forth that might be a bulletin board thing and so at least Jerry's done talking for the week right?

4:10Rich Eisen:Yeah of course I got a feeling you're going to tell me he's not. That's correct Oops. Another 105.3 the fan appearance Was Jerry driving around and just called in? No no Jerry from Frisco You're on. Make no mistake about it. Micah is special, and we all know he is, and he can be disruptive. But we have huge amounts of experience with the anecdotes that we've seen used on us for the last four years. And while he does make great plays, there is also a way to approach playing against Micah, as we know. because we didn't exactly win the Super Bowl during those years. So bottom line is when I look at playing him, I think of trying to have him as an advantage when we were playing other teams over the last four years.

5:11And some plays it looks beautiful, but then other plays, especially running plays, you can wish you'd have had a different formation. Wow.

5:28Rich Eisen:I love it. This is why I think, what was the word? Miracle? Is that what Michael Irvin used to describe Jerry Jones, the NFL, and the Jim Jackson show? Wherever you get your podcasts, Jim's guest this week, Michael Irvin, calls Jerry a miracle. it's a miracle i haven't signed that paper

5:56Rich Eisen:the release of sandals do it do it do it do it do it do it like i said what what would we have to talk about listen back when micah was here there were times when he sucked and we just need to take the times when he sucked and replicate them for our advantage when it was used against us his sucking because he's the reason we haven't won the Super Bowl. You know what I mean? There are times when other teams did well enough against Micah because we didn't win the Super Bowl when he was here. So now, no, not so. You didn't say that. You didn't say that. We should exactly win the Super Bowl when he was here.

6:34Rich Eisen:Look, that's how I heard it. As a Dallas fan. Who came on the air this week and said when you had 50 home runs with us? You know? Oh, yeah. That was an old... It was an old... I forget. Somebody's like, yeah, You hit 50 home runs when you're with us and we lost. We can. You don't have to be here. Somebody told that story. Yeah, it was a story about an old manager. So, yeah, I mean, hey, what we need to do is we need to look at the tape is when Micah sucked and then take that tape and see what the other team did to cause Micah to suck. And we'll be that team now. And then we do that. Us sucking.

7:10Rich Eisen:Yeah. You need to marry that with the Frank Caliendo. You know what I mean? Oh, man. Sunday night football. I just want, again, Jerry, just one last time here. Jerry Jones, go up to Micah before the game. Extend your hand just to mess with him. He'll shake it. Oh, yeah. Micah. That's what we need. There we go. Micah. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. You're on the program. It's a Friday. Show. It's time for What's More Likely. Do it. Hit it. What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never. Ah, yes. What do you have over there, Chris Brockman? It's a big Friday. What's more likely? Hit it. Big Friday.

7:53Rich Eisen:What's up, everybody? You guys are good. Let's talk about Micah and Dallas playing against each other on Sunday night. Where is it on my list here? Uh-huh. More likely to be the higher total Sunday night, boys. Micah Parsons sacks or Dak Prescott touchdown passes. Oh, come on. I'll go Dak Prescott touchdown passes for you, TJ. Don't be ridiculous. Well, he's going to throw eight in the game then? That's not going to happen. That won't happen. That won't happen. So I'll go. Let's say Dak has two. Dak throws two. Micah gets one and a half sacks. I think that's a feasible thing, right? One and a half sacks would be a nice night for Micah.

8:34Rich Eisen:I'd prefer a number closer to zero. I don't think that's going to happen either. Are you secretly rooting for Micah to do well, TJ? Absolutely he is. No. Why? because him doing well will have an outcome on the game. So if he does well, we're definitely going to lose. But I think you kind of don't like the Cowboys anymore in a weird way. You know, it depends on what day you ask me. Today's that day. I'm cool with him. Okay, cool. I'll go Dak touchdown passes. One and a half sacks, by the way, would be a nice night for him because then there'll be some quarterback pressures on top of it. But I think, you know, Dak and this offense has done very well.

9:11Rich Eisen:No CD is problematic. Yeah, if only we hadn't lined him up in the backfield for a stupid play and he hurt his ankle without four weeks. For a stupid play. Yeah, stupid. Is that what the play's called? Was stupid? They better re - Everybody, let's run stupid. Stupid play on three. Ready? Let's get 88 in the backfield and let's run stupid on three. One, two, three. Stupid. That's right. Here we go. Rich, you think the NFC North? Here we go, stupid. You think the NFC North is still the best division, right? NFC North? I think it is, sure. More likely a division to get three playoff teams. NFC West, NFC North.

9:49Rich Eisen:I'll go NFC West right now. Because if we said beforehand that Minnesota might be the team that loses out on a playoff spot and the Seahawks get in, I still think the Rams are getting in. Yeah. 49ers are the issue, too, huh? 3-0. 3-0. They lead the division. I know. Everybody's hurt. Well, not everybody, but. They're probably going to beat Jacksonville, right, Purdy? Purdy's back. What about the AFC North? Steelers, Ravens, and the Jake Browning led Cincinnati Bengals. I'm not giving up on that. By the way, there's a whole Monday to preview Bengals and Broncos for me to keep on doubling down. Which means there's still time for you to get off this take.

10:25Rich Eisen:You just can't get on first take. You might want to leave that one alone. Have I had my last take on first take? What do you think? Well, if you keep going down this Jake Browning. Jake Browning throws for 500. I don't know. Maybe. He'll have you back. Struggling second year wide receiver more likely to break out this weekend. We saw Marvin Harrison kind of breakout last night. How about Brian Thomas Jr. or Malik Nabors? I'll go Malik Nabors, man. What's going on with Brian Thomas Jr.? Did he hurt his wrist too? Celebrating a catch? I have no idea. I have no idea what is going on there. It's very bizarre.

10:58Rich Eisen:Jeez. I mean, they've both been pretty terrible. The Niners defense has been really terrific, bud. Some of the Chargers. What am I thinking here? Yeah, but Malik is... Malik is Malik Nabors is... He's ridiculous. I know. Ray Thomas did have that 40-yard catch at the end of the game. I think Brian Kelly would have a problem with this question. It's the wrong LSU question to ask. Why not both? I'll go Malik Mavis. I could have went struggling LSU receiver. I just assumed that. Yeah, we assumed that's why we were connecting this to it. Okay, very good. More likely backup quarterback to get a second straight win.

11:34Rich Eisen:Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota. I'll go Mariota. Carson Wentz against the Steelers defense I think they're licking their chops What Steelers defense? The one that knocked the ball loose 20 times against your team? I don't think they had anything to do with it Get out of here man The Pats players stink and can't hold on to the ball They didn't just drop it It reminds me of Stevenson basically He just dropped it four times Get out of here dude I don't know if this is going to get me on first take at all I saw a topic bar Are there like which quarterback would you rather have or trust or whatever in that game?

12:13Rich Eisen:Carson Wentz or Aaron Rodgers? It's just like, that's an offensive question. Yeah, that's a little disrespectful. To Wentz, obviously. Well, come on. Stop it, dude. Get out of here, man. Carson Wentz has been bouncing around and he had one nice. It was a good game. I think he's on what? His six different team in the last six years. Yes. This man was three games away from being MVP of the NFL. I know that. What happened? Oh, Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald. You decided to jump for the end zone head first, and Aaron Donald was in the hole. What if I told you? That kind of changed everything. Yada, yada, yada.

12:50Rich Eisen:There's a statue of Nick Foles out front of the stadium. I mean, has anyone ever been so close to greatness and just have it, like, ripped away from them? I'll go Mariota in Atlanta rather than Carson Wentz against the Steelers in Ireland. So, Rich, you agree with Chris that this is a revenge game? Mariota revenge game. Yes, I'm now turning it around. More likely, quarterback-running-back duo for more combined yards on Sunday. Jackson Dart and Scadaboo. Scadaboo. Herbie and Omarion. Really? Well, the Giants are going to be trailing, so I imagine Dart can back up some yards. I'll go Herbert and Hampton.

13:26Rich Eisen:I don't know if they're going to need to throw it. Okay, I'm going to go 3-0. I'm going 3-0 versus 3-0. I'm starting. 3-0 versus 0-3. I'm taking the 3-0. The Giants winning this game would be great for content. By the way, Rich, yesterday— So are the Chargers, great for content. You don't think a 4-0 team that's practicing down the street would be good for the Rich Eisen show? Are they coming in here to celebrate with us on Monday? I don't know. I'm just saying it's good for content if the Jackson Dart balls out and wins. I think it would be great for the Giants fans. Rich, you might not have heard this story in the control room yesterday, but I picked the Giants to win this game.

13:59Rich Eisen:Oh, good for you. Oh, do, do. I hadn't heard that from the... You weren't paying attention. I was not. That spread should not be six and a half. More likely, is it Baker leads another last-minute comeback win or the Chiefs drop to one and three?

14:21Rich Eisen:Obviously, the Chiefs dropping to one and three is likely as it is that Baker does it again. I think this is a false choice that you're making me make. what it is they're both they're both highly likely to happen that what the chiefs losing to the ravens at home is likely and baker mayfield leading another come i'll go i'll go it's more likely uh that there's a one uh that the chiefs go one and three because how how likely is it that you do it for a fourth straight time that was kind of the point of the question just not not that he can't do it, just the fact that it's done three times in a row and it would happen for a fourth?

15:01They've won on the last play of the game

15:03Rich Eisen:three weeks in a row. You want to do it again? Four in a row? All right, screw it. I'll take Baker. I'll take Baker. I'll take Baker. Dog with a bone? I don't know where he went with... What was that all about? Did you accidentally hit a Bill Pullman drop? No, he made you do that. Okay, got it. They don't always work. No, I get it now. Is it more likely Kerry Williams has another four touchdown game or Ashton Gentry gets his first 100-yard game? I'll go Ashton Gentry gets his first 100-yard game. We need to speak this into existence. Oh, my gosh. I think we're one poor Ashton Gentry performance away from, like, why did you make him change his stance?

15:45Rich Eisen:Oh, that take. Interesting. You know? Like, yeah. Let him loose like it's Boise State. they're two games like that away from saying just paint the turf blue why'd you take them sixth overall I'll go that way another four touchdown game is a tall order against Max Crosby dude so I'll go ask you and then let's go more likely to be the bigger number more likely to be the bigger number Cal Raleigh homers this weekend or 4-0 teams still left on Monday Okay, well, obviously there's going to be one fewer. There won't be a 4-0. Let's put it this way. There won't be two 4-0 teams emerging from Tampa, so that's one fewer one.

16:36Rich Eisen:San Francisco could win, so that's a one right there. I think Indianapolis loses to the Rams, so that's two there. That's gone. Who else? The Bills play the Saints, so that's two. That's two. I'll go there'll be a higher number of 4-0 teams left on the weekend. I don't know. Is Raleigh going to even play all three games? Oh, I don't know. It depends. Why not? He's got a chance to get the AL record. I know. And not just that. They have a chance to be the, speaking of record in the AL, they could have the best record in the AL. I'll just go 4-0 teams on Monday. Just say that. Got one more? Last one.

17:15Rich Eisen:One more. I did not know this. That's my boy. I did not know this. More likely to be a larger total here. Bills winning margin. Against New Orleans. That's like a 15 and a half sprint. Or the Team USA's final score in the Ryder Cup. Oh, I'll go Bills winning margin. Because you need 14 and a half to win the Ryder Cup right now, right? Right. It's not looking good right now. Well, they're doing better in the afternoon four-ball situation. The Ryder Cup seemed better at four-ball. They're better with four-ball. Okay. I like this. By the way, the Ryder Cup team has the same color scheme as the Bills.

17:51Rich Eisen:Hey, look at that. I'll take the Bills winning margin. You think blowout city? I do. Yeah. A lot of train whistles, man. A lot of train whistles with the Saints coming to town. That's such a high spread, too. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial right here on the show. Phone lines are all it, which is great. Sit back. Enjoy. It's always a lot of fun when Kevin Pollack stops by. He's coming in support of Tulsa King, the latest hit show that features Kevin Pollack, the Niner fan coming on out in a moment.

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20:01Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show Podcast. Just showed a clip of Paramount Plus' Tulsa King. Check it out every Sunday on Paramount Plus Season 3. Kevin Pollack has joined the cast and joined the show once again. And so the first time you've met Sylvester Stallone, did you have any moments on the set where you picked his brain about Rocky or about anything from the past, Rambo, any of those moments? Or no, you just left him alone on that front? I tend to leave people alone when it comes to what were you thinking when you did this or that or how did that work. Also, I was new guy. They'd already had two wildly successful seasons.

20:39Yes, sir. The show is a monster hit in the Taylor Sheridan universe. so I kind of wanted to get along and not not try to push any buttons right not nudge around I guess yeah I mean he's an inspiration and has been for decades upon decades and just just the whole story of how Rocky came to be and he insisted on starring in it when no one was green lighting movies with him as the star right but he wrote the script and held out for now it's got to be me and Boy, was he right.

21:10Rich Eisen:And I guess let's talk about underdog stories. A guy named Brock Purdy for you. Yeah. For the San Francisco 49ers. I enjoyed watching the show from home before I came here. Thank you, sir. The first hour, as you were insisting how great Seattle was. Listen, we beat him. So let's start there. Brock led us right past him on week one. He did with that pass for the ages to Jake Tonjes. I mean, I'm sure you were looking up in your in your flip chart at home about Jake Tonjes and who he was. Big fan. Like we all. From that moment on. He had you in hello, Jake Tonjes. You know what I mean? But but Brock Purdy, a dream come true type material so far.

21:53Rich Eisen:Yeah. He's a great leader. And having Robert Sala back. Oh, my. Oh, my. Let's face it. Our defense has certainly kept us in the games post that week one. and they're just incredible, even with the loss of one of the greatest pass rushers in the history of the NFL, Nick Bosa. Okay, look at you going that big. You're going that big. You're playing it big, huh, Kevin? Well, when you lose one, you've got to fill that. But I still believe in what Robert Sala and Ward are capable of in terms of keeping that team together. So you've been a Niners fan forever and a day? I'm old, so John Brody. That's the guy.

22:32Losing to Dallas in the playoffs. 17 to 10.

22:35Rich Eisen:That was your guy growing up? At Keysar. Keysar Stadium. Sure. Yeah. And then we had to suffer through DeBerg. And I think at one point we had Plunkett. I mean, you know, it was a bad time. Towards the end of Plunkett. Yeah. You wanted the Plunkett on the other side of the Bay Area. That's the Plunkett you wanted. Yeah. And then I was there for the arrival of the Messiah and Joe Montana. And we just had Steve Young on in our number two of this program. You know what I mean? And we were talking about revenge games, certainly with Micah going back to Dallas. Yes. And how Montana played young that one year in 1994.

23:06Rich Eisen:That's one of the top revenge games of the last 40 years or anything like that. Yeah, we were very concerned when the upstart forced out our Joe Montana. Right. And then to come in and break all of his records and pick up some more Super Bowl rings. It was pretty damn impressive. I love that you're wearing your hat. You're letting your colors fly. Yeah, yeah. Lifelong. Yeah, and you got Robert Patrick on the show as well. I know he's an Atlanta fan. He's been on here before. Neil McDonough as well. Frank Grillo is in the cast this year. Is it true Sam Jackson's coming? Sam Jackson was announced he's doing a spinoff, Nola King, set in New Orleans.

23:45Rich Eisen:Oh, so it's not on. He's not on. So he shows up in our season three in order to continue his story. Yeah. Okay. I got to spend some time with Sam. And, you know, we're old timers. So we just swapped war stories from the trenches. And yeah, he's, again, iconic in every which way possible. So he told me some actual backstories. You should have him on and ask him about Pulp Fiction because he was sharing some stuff as a lifelong fan of that movie. Yes. Going on, what, 31 years now. Do you want to give us a little taste of what he was sharing? Speak of Sam's stories? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. What did he tell you?

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24:28I would rather tell you the time on the set of A Few Good Men when Tom Cruise said, hey, do you want to ride to work tomorrow? Okay.

24:38Rich Eisen:Yeah. All right. Yeah. Color me intrigued, sir. Okay, so what happened? Well, we shot in Culver. We shot a couple weeks in Washington, D.C. to establish the exteriors of Washington. But the interiors were on the sound stages in Culver City where they shot Gone with the Wind and all sorts of incredible movies. It's a Wonderful Life and so on. So shooting over there. We had to shoot one scene, of course, down to visit the Colonel Jessup in Guantanamo Bay. Yes, sir. And they sent the script to the Marines who read the script and said, you've got the Colonel being a bit of a lunatic here. Yeah, you're not shooting here.

25:17You'll get no help from us. So we shot in Long Beach. and yada yada shooting long beach so tom the day before uh we're gonna shoot in long beach says oh while we're on sound stages of culver city do you want to ride to work tomorrow i i got a car i mean uh what do you mean it's a 20 minutes down no no do you want to ride to work tomorrow and then i floated a picture to your staff i don't know if they loaded it up at the time and tom uh piloted the helicopter oh to take me no kidding and this was 1991 92 a little bit before people i think were hip to the fact that tom was a pilot let alone a helicopter pilot which is one of the more difficult so he he picked he picked you up in a helicopter on the tarmac where the helicopters uh uh yeah you know and you haven't lived to you've valet parked your car on a tarmac uh that's true is what i kept saying right about six months afterwards he flew you to so he passed me to long beach which in a car is 30 minutes tops and in the helicopter was maybe 11

26:22Rich Eisen:but there we are oh there we are standing outside my word yeah he he hops into the driver's seat yeah i'm sitting in the pilot seat there and i we've got the headphones on and he's you like the view and the crate you know it's bonkers it's bonkers yeah and i you know do we tell the insurance company that uh we're taking a helicopter does he does he get a per diem for that sort of thing i think we both have to clear that with someone or he just did it i think i would have to clear it with someone and i'm not sure tom i'm not sure tom does that sort of thing was it just the two of you it was just the two of us yeah yes it was dj so when i'm watching back yeah yeah a few good men sure and it's the scene where he's talking to colonel jessup at breakfast right that sort of thing okay you gotta ask me nicely that's right gotta ask me nicely for the for the transfer orders right yeah okay so yeah you know please okay please um and so that's long beach california that shot that in long beach there's a base down there and that you're there fresh off of a helicopter ride from Tom Cruise.

27:34Probably a little sweaty from it. Yeah, because I was nervous.

27:38Rich Eisen:I mean, he's got to be a good helicopter pilot. Oh, tremendous, yeah. He said, do you want to see something? And I said, no, no, let's just get there. What's the something he was referring to? Okay, very good. Amazing. I was going to ask you your favorite Tom Cruise story. Yeah. Well, another time I used him to get a better deal on a Lexus. Okay. what i'd love to hear this i'll bite yeah what happened so i had a i had a new hbo special coming up stand-up special um and we were going to do these bits uh other than just the concert footage for the special we were gonna and so i thought you know how people at the end of a big broadway show the famous thing where they're bowing and someone brings them up the flowers sure i said let's really go that to the nth degree someone would come out give me flowers someone comes out after that a couple seconds later puts a robe and a crown on me or a cape and then someone comes out and gives me a briefcase full of money and then takes off his right arm and hands it to me and then the back curtains open up and a car rolls out with a supermodel on the hood and you know the voice of god off camera and a brand new car yeah and so we're going through all the machinations and i realized at the time i wanted the new 1991-92 lexus coupe two-door had just come out 90 day waiting they're selling him over sticker price and so i'm i'm realizing well i've got this opportunity i'm working on this movie let me see if i can get a ahead of the 90 day waiting list so i'm calling around all the dealerships and i i would give them the long spiel you know i've done this movie i died in denzel washington's arms every small jewish fellow's dream i think it was part of my bar mitzvah in my half torah i said if i could just uh so you know i've done the la story with steve martin and i get to the end of the phone call and they would say wow yeah i'm sorry who are you you know and i was just looking to jump ahead the 90 well you know i'm not trying to steal the car yeah right and so every dealership the gm i'd get him on the phone and it would all end with i'm sorry who do you think you are and so at the very last time out and testin testin lexus testin lexus yeah uh i'm on the phone again with the gm and i get to the end of the story and he's and he says tell me again what who you are and i said well listen i'm uh i'm shooting a movie right now uh with tom cruise and uh jack nicholson if you want to deliver the car i guess i could introduce you to him take some photos and the guy says how's monday and and so i know tom's a car guy so i tell tom because i got to get him to take this photo you know what i mean i have completely pimped him out and so uh i i tell him you know you know the hey tom you know that lexus coupe oh my god yeah the new one yeah yeah you can't get it it's a great car i got well i'm having one delivered today get out of here yeah yeah no for sure if you want to drive it first.

30:37We'll go for a drive around the... What time? What time? One o 'clock. Okay, great. Great. Yeah. No, I'm there. I'm there. And 1230, I'm in my trailer. Open up the door. There's Tom. Is the car here yet? It's another half hour, Tom. Okay, let me know.

30:55Rich Eisen:It's coming from Mr. Tustin Lexus at some point. It's coming by here. Yeah, he's driving all the way out from Tustin to Culver City. It's a good hour. that's for sure uh so you know tom's very excited i think he's established that one of the jobs are our first ad uh on every movie has to figure out how to get all the actors to the set at the same time and in that courtroom scene there's a lot of us oh sure you know demi is going to take seven minutes when you knock on her door jack's going to take 11 to find his shoes uh kevin's always wants to go to the restroom again before he leaves but tom can i stand up for a second for a little demo this is tom when you knock on his trailer door it's as if he's doing this on the other side of the door ready to go because he will burst through the door and run to set yes so much so that one day i'm running to set or he's running past me to set and i go tom where's the fire just busting chops and he says come on kevin sure enough i'm running with him you know leading by example yes so 12 45 open the door is car here yet it's not here you have one of the o 'clock tom okay let me know no i'll definitely let you know 105 i walk out of my trailer tom's pacing at his trailer i'm not going to assume it's because of the car and uh i look at towards the drive and sure enough the guy's pulling in about 109 and i'm walking towards the gm in my new car uh dark blue tan interior i can't believe this car is being delivered to me yes and tom Tom runs past me towards the guy driving the car, and I'm thinking, oh, don't blow the deal, Tom, don't blow the deal.

32:38Tom's angry. So the guy stops the car, about to meet Tom. Tom opens the door. What are you doing, man? It's 10 after 1. It's supposed to be here at 1 o 'clock. Tom, don't yell at the GM of Tustin Lexus. I need this deal. I need this deal. Yeah, I got it. The 90 days waiting list gone. list price over list price nope i got it for the list oh my buddy and the driver the gm is like oh geez sorry there was traffic you got to allow for traffic you got to allow for traffic i can't believe he's scolding the gm from custom lexus but sure enough uh the gm tosses me the keys i say no no tom you drive first the gm gets in the back seat and i got to see tom stunt drive my brand new car oh my god 90 miles an hour residential the guy in the back seat for sure a having the time of his life and b wetting himself without question i mean this guy looked terrified uh sliding back and forth back seat yeah it was incredible but you did get the car and i got yeah okay yeah i got the picture guy and guy got the photo oh my god yeah still yeah sheet white the guy how would it have gone if you

33:56Rich Eisen:had offered Nicholson instead. You said you'd made a movie with both of them. If you would ask Nicholson, he would say, you, Lieutenant Weinberg? Yeah, Jack, do you mind taking a photo with the GM from Lexus and Tustin? I'm sorry, what, kid? From where now? Jesus. So, I don't know if I ever asked you, was that line, you, Lieutenant Weinberg, that he threw... Was that ad-libbed? Who's going to do it? You? You, the Jew? You mean that line? It was in context what it sounded like. We don't speak to each other. We're introduced to Brenda's office briefly. There are no words exchanged. He has no reason to, A, remember my name and, B, point me out in the courtroom unless he is, in fact, saying who's going to do it?

34:48You? You, the Jew? That's Aaron Sorkin wanting everyone to know he's not just misogynistic and racist he's also anti-semitic so it was scripted absolutely he didn't just throw that one off no no okay no um i told you this the the the rehearsals you have

35:06Rich Eisen:before but i mean we've got a new audience because he he did everything letter perfect in that scene i know we've discussed this before we rehearsed for a couple of weeks tom to me rob reiner the director and myself right and during those couple of weeks on a sound stage tape on the ground like if you were doing a broadway play yeah which i'd never done before or since um and after a couple weeks we realized that rob who you've had on the show is very uh demonstrative right and um he he'll to give you a direction he'll end up kind of acting it out a little bit now to actors sometimes you're offended by a director giving line readings because it suggests don't do it that way do it this way right so rob never did that he just got so excited telling you what remember the thing in moment of the scene and he ends up acting it out out of excitement so we learned oh he's not being you know giving us line readings then jack arrives and now it's jack's turn to rehearse with rob jack sits in the chair and he does the soliloquy on the stand for the first time in front of anyone and it's conservatively 97 of what we see in the movie it's so perfect already right and rob's standing over him six foot two three and Jag finishes and looks up and Rob says incredible astonishing I that that's Jack I can't believe we're already there you mean it's just ridiculous up you know that moment when you say and and if you had an overhead camera looking down of Tom to me and I in a line you would see us from overhead stepping one foot back at this moment as Rob is basically giving Jack Nicholson a line reading and Rob finishes and Jack and just looked up to him and said yes well I guess I'm not there yet am I wow yes I guess I'm not there yet but he was and it was letter perfect I mean yeah just so none of it was ad-libbed it was literally letter perfect not a syllable yeah and because it was a broadway play that already had 500 plus performances right rob wanted very much to stick to the letter yeah well it certainly worked out matt oh my gosh yeah yeah yeah so uh okay a helicopter ride in a lexus that's a that's a that's a car yeah and uh and uh and and you know we're like we're almost at a train situation here for which i guess happens in a mission impossible um tulsa king uh available Sundays on Paramount Plus, currently in season three, premiered this past Sunday.

37:42Rich Eisen:Can't wait to see where everything goes. Oh, you got one more picture? Yeah, yeah. We dug this up today. Kevin, is it an anniversary or something of this? Is this like your headshot thing that we found? Oh, the composite. Yeah, what is this? You first get to LA and they say, you got to get a composite photo. Walk us through? Yes, I can. What this is? Upper left corner, that would be the tennis game. If you're able to zoom in at all, for some bizarre reason, I'm in corduroy shorts. Wow. repeat corduroy shorts. Okay. And an amazing Jufro. Had lots of hair back then. Okay. Upper right-hand cord. Just taking a biz call.

38:16Taking a biz call. Phone booth. A lot of kids don't know what that means. This is 40 years ago. 1985.

38:22Rich Eisen:You're wearing a pinky ring in that phone call. Hey, you know what? Stay out of it already. We're making pizzas lower left. Throwing a pie. Okay. That's not superimposed. That's an actual thrown pie. And then we're fishing on the right. And then very sad that the fish is so tiny that I caught. Yeah, I had to direct all these. Those are all shot on location, by the way. This is not CGI. This is not sound stages. Look at you. 40 years ago. And you're trying to start the career. And we were channeling on the left. You just lost a point in your corduroy shorts. Is that what we're doing right here?

38:55Rich Eisen:I was channeling McEnroe. Okay, probably so. Yeah, are you serious? And look at you on the right. That was an are you serious? You're booking something. I'm booking. You're booking something. You're booking something. I'm definitely not saying buy, sell. What's the... think i had a day planner in my left hand in that phone booth uh what is the oldest residual check you get oh golly anything what did we get like a dollar 93 of what from what like what is when you open it up and you're like like probably barry levinson's masterpiece avalon yeah i enjoyed him on the show recently by the way great it was great to have him here yeah that's 1989 but maybe willow from the 88.

39:32Rich Eisen:okay uh no tv show that you did is uh you know what you are correct who's the boss who's the boss with Tony Danza who are you and who's the kid look it up Chris who are you and who's the boss I was the manager of a submarine sandwich shop where his daughter got a job and then 1987 she asked me to hire him we do and then he's not working out at all because it's Tony Danza and I asked her to fire her dad and so she wound up being the boss yes I thought it was a rhetorical question as to who the boss was Now we know. Oh my God, it's so complicated now. I'm so glad I could come on just in time to solve that mystery.

40:13Oh, solve the mystery.

40:14Rich Eisen:The episode is Yellow Submarine. Hey. Shaboom. Kevin, shaboom. You were in an episode of Amen? Yes, I was. Oh, Sherman Hemsley back. Sherman Hemsley, around the same time. 1987, you were a photographer. Yeah. I used to love that show. Correct, continue. Small Jews for$400. The answer is. And Sherman gave you a ride that day in his helicopter in his whirly gig. Very good. Oh, my God. You're the best, dude. Thanks for coming on. Thank you so much. You're the best. Go Niners. Yes, sir. Jaguars, no problem. That's 4-0, then. Then they're coming here. And then we're coming to town. I'm going to give the Rams the advantage.

40:53Okay. But then when we see the Rams again later in the season, we got some people back. Look the hell out.

40:58Rich Eisen:Okay. Look the hell out. Also, for Tulsa King on Sundays on Paramount +, along with Sylvester Stallone, this man, Kevin Pollack, right here on The Rich Eisen Show. Back to wrap up this program in a matter of moments.

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44:22Rich Eisen:Pretty big game. The Steelers win this game. They are three and one, and it will delight many of the Steeler fans that are there in Dublin, and they have a bye, after which they play Cleveland. So the winner of this game has the Browns next. Pretty big game, no doubt. Carson Wentz versus Aaron Rodgers. We'll see what happens there. Number four is just up the road. Can the 3-0 Indianapolis Colts keep this magic carpet ride rolling against a Rams team that could have been 3-0 had they not had their last two field goals blocked in Philadelphia. So the Rams coming off of a big showing in Philly, but a bad taste in their mouths.

44:57Rich Eisen:And Daniel Jones coming against a defense that shut down Jalen Hurts in the first half, and then second half got lit up. So we'll see which defense shows up. I can't wait to see if the Colts go 4-0 against a Rams team that has a chance to take first place in division before taking in the Niners to kick off week number five on Thursday night. Number three is the aforementioned Eagles going down to Tampa where they have had problems. And the Bucs have had the Eagles number. The question is, is which one of these teams is going to go 4-0? Baker versus the defending Super Bowl champs. Just all kinds of awesome.

45:32Rich Eisen:And it's an early window game on Fox. Can't wait for that one. Then late window CBS. PS, the loser between the one and two Ravens and one of two Chiefs goes to one and three. How big is this football game? I was thinking of making it number one just because of that. Last year, they kicked off the season together because they finished the season in the AFC in an AFC championship game. Now they're taking on each other for the right to avoid the one and three start. Thought about making that number one overall, but Micah going back to Dallas on Sunday night. I just, you know, it's the last two games are kind of more rubbernecking maybe, but they're also teams that had, that have playoff and Super Bowl aspirations.

46:18Rich Eisen:Jerry, the over under again is five and a half shots of Jerry Jones in the booth. You're taking the over, right? Way over. Should we set it at six and a half? Yeah, eight and a half. Wow, geez. Can't wait for this one on Sunday Night Football on NBC. We have one more. Thank you. I did not know this. Cooper.

46:38Rich Eisen:I'm going to go Jackson Darts start against the Chargers. This game can be sneaky fun. I want to see what he looks like. Camp Scadaboo getting the start. Let's see if the new young Giants can take down a marauding Los Angeles Chargers team. Or can the Chargers just come across the country? Early window game for a West Coast team is never easy. But then again, this team flew 11 and a half hours to take on the Chiefs in Brazil. and then on a Monday night came up with a big win. Can't wait to see that game. And those are my top five matchups of week number four. Enjoy, everybody. Thanks for listening to the Rich Eisen Show podcast.

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Rich weighs in on Cowboys owner Jerry Jones throwing shade a Micah Parsons ahead of Dallas hosting the Green Bay Packers in Week 4.

In ‘What’s More Likely’ Rich weighs in on Micah Parsons and the Green Bay Packers taking on the Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys, Jaxon Dart’s first NFL start, the Chiefs possibly falling to 1-3, Baker Mayfield, Caleb Williams, Carson Wentz, Cal Raleigh, and more.

Actor Kevin Pollak joins Rich in-studio to discuss the new season of ‘Tulsa King’ on Paramount+, the state of his beloved San Francisco 49ers, shares some great stories about making ‘A Few Good Men’ with Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson, and more.

Rich previews the biggest matchups in NFL Week 4 including Vikings vs Steelers, Colts vs Rams, Eagles vs Buccaneers, Ravens vs Chiefs, Packers vs Cowboys, and Chargers vs Giants.
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