Hour 3: What’s More Likely: Thanksgiving Games Edition, plus Actor Jared Harris In-Studio

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1:27Rich Eisen:Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show I know him Rich Eisen I know him Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles Are you kidding me, JJ? How many weeks do you give JJ? I'm surprised with the struggles of it The Rich Eisen Show Earlier on the show Pro Football Hall of Famer, Kurt Warner NFL Network insider, Tom Pelissero Coming up, actor Jared Harris And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. Here we are on Disney Plus, the ESPN app, every single day, 12 to 3 Eastern time. Same thing with ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance.

2:13Rich Eisen:Also, Sirius XM Channel 80. Hello, podcast listeners. No Contest Wrestling is the latest episode being recorded later on today. is O'Shea Jackson Jr. within shouting distance anywhere? The last text I got from him was a word I can't see on TV, on my way. Ah! Why would he curse before saying on my way? Because I told him Sarah has to leave a little early today, so if he wants to come get beautified on TV, then he should get here by a certain time. Why would that make him curse? Like, oh, crap, let me get ready. Oh, I see. I see. Okay. So he's not coming in threatening some sort of an actionable moment because he thinks it's a hostile work environment.

2:57Rich Eisen:Listen, Rich, you've met him. He's the one who's hostile. I can't tell you what's going to happen when he gets here. I don't know what's going to come out of his mouth. Hopefully he can join us so I can wish him a happy Thanksgiving. He's a wild boy. Who knows? My friend is not hostile. Okay. Your friend. Those two love each other. That's great. I know. Dion loves him. Everybody loves him. Nothing aggravates me. I'm adorable, Rich. I mean, we face the facts. Adorable? Nothing makes me mad. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. So Shador Sanders is getting the full-on starting quarterback treatment, as in full week of practice, as in all the reps, as in media availabilities as you get closer to kickoff.

3:43Rich Eisen:It's a Wednesday, which means quarterback speak. He is the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. And, you know, it's interesting that he's getting another start from a coaching staff and a team that everybody thought Dylan Gabriel would get the shot again because he's coming out of concussion protocol. But, no, it's Shador getting the shot with a choice. The coach has a choice. It's not like hiding behind the well. Dylan Gabriel's not healthy, so we've got to start Shador. or he's not hiding behind anything because there's nothing to hide. Even though people think, certain people think that he's being sabotaged by the Cleveland Browns over the entire process.

4:27Rich Eisen:Cam Newton might call it sabotage. I think William Shatner calls it sabotage. You say sabotage. I say sabotage. William Shatner calls it sabotage. Like, what are we doing? What are we, week 13? We all knew we were going to get to this point, right? TJ, what the? not a St. Corbettist. Let's put it this way. We all assumed we were. No, we didn't assume. Remember, I get the script. I haven't been like, I didn't know it was a bit here. I thought you were having a take. I didn't know it was a bit. It is, but honestly, it's a take. The fact that we knew that we were going to be here at some point. So why make him wait?

5:00Rich Eisen:I was hoping. We knew. It was already. Well, I was counting on the Browns franchise and their ineptitude when it comes to quarterbacks that eventually the third or fourth guy would start a game. no matter who it was. Could have been you, could have been Mike. Well, so with the conversation being about sabotage or sabotage, depending on who's saying it, Cam Newton. By the way, we should do a new game, Cam Newton or William Shatner. I don't know what the game is, but I just like saying those two words and names. I'm saying Wolf had the game, who said it? We should bring that back. Okay. Who said it?

5:37Rich Eisen:This was brought up to Shador about his relationship with Kevin Stefanski, and if he was being sabotaged beforehand. Not from you, but all your supporters out there say that Kevin Stefanski was sabotaging you. So you just want to start trouble, huh? No, I want to ask you what your relationship with him is. Yeah, well, what people do outside the building isn't really in my control, it's not in my power, so I don't... you're like, I go out there and tell them to do whatever. You know, that's not nothing I can control or nothing I can do. But overall, you know, I'm just happy to be here. Coach Stefanski, he's been coaching since I got here, and he's been doing a very great job, you know, with everything that's going on.

6:25But what is your relationship like with him when we don't see you guys together? Definitely like a coach. You know, he tells me what I need to do on and off the field. But we've definitely grown. Our relationship and everything has grown. So I'm just thankful to be here.

6:44Rich Eisen:How do you not love that kid? No notes, Shador. You're trying to stir stuff up, are you? No, I'm just trying to find out what your relationship is with Mother. What do you think? We're going out to dinner? What are we doing? Who is this? Right. Also, he's in charge. He's the employer. I'm employee currently number one you know at the position but I'm not going to call myself number one I'm just happy to be here I'm a humble guy I'm following Rex's advice it's all we when we win and I when we lose blah blah blah you know okay let's ascribe everything to this kid that's negative if that's what we wish to do and let's ascribe everything positive of him, which we wish to do.

7:36Rich Eisen:And I always tend towards the glass being half full. Unless Jim Gaffigan's here with bourbon. All seriousness, I mean, great answer. What's he going to say? Yeah, he's the coach. I'm the quarterback. He's helping me out here. Oh, yeah, no, I wasn't taking, you know, scout team reps when I thought I deserved it. Remember when I was miming to y 'all? you're all thinking I have no chance to be a starting quarterback in this league well is that what he should say I mean what do you want to say what do you want him to say they want to say they want something to get him caught yep no I don't know about something to get caught I mean um I don't know I don't want to describe you know negative to media members it's a very odd question like he like he's telling Cam Newton to say these things on first take no No, I think what he's saying is this is what's being said outside the building.

8:31Rich Eisen:And these people are your supporters. It's interesting he said your supporters because that does imply like he is. I thought that was an excellent answer of Shador, because if you are implying that he's pulling any strings in the Sanders families, like telling Cam, go on the air. Right. Exactly. You know, all this stuff. Dion's supposed to be a helicopter dad and he's supposed to be screwing everything up. And there's supposed to be reality show cameras there. and he's also not only supposed to be a helicopter dad he's supposed to be all over the place to create an atmosphere that the coach is in a hot seat guess what Stefanski is on the hot seat all by himself based on the circumstances around everything even though I don't think he deserves it I think you know if I'm him and he doesn't want to be there anymore the one thing I'd say steer me towards New York get me towards the Giants where they're not going to fire me and i've got jackson dart and i've got a whole bunch of people you know so many media members have just been so weird about this kid um kind of since the draft and it's just so bizarre can't we just watch him play football and and assess the all 22 and the tape like like kurt does and a lot of so other yeah so many other kurt said why can't we just do that and kurt loves dion as much as i love dion and kurt's like you know i saw i saw an incomplete there's just He made some throws, yes.

9:54Rich Eisen:He made a cool throw, but it was a pretty average performance. They took him off the field, down by the goal line. Let's just watch him play a few games and then assess him as a football player. I don't know why we have to be so weird. Well, I mean, again, because this is his last name, let's be honest. He's a famous kid. And in college, coached by his dad, a lot of people thought he was being coddled. And in the NFL, without his dad, he would not be able to stand on his own two feet. And maybe that's true, but let's just give him the chance to either. stand or fail. I'm glad he's getting the chance.

10:27Rich Eisen:Again, why am I blanking on a caller's name from Virginia? Oh, was it Jackie? Jackie. Jackie from Virginia. We put the video on our Instagram page. What she called herself an internet auntie who's like I'm watching Browns games now. The only reason. The only reason. I'm sure she's not the only person who is now suddenly taking an interest in Browns games. Which, by the way, for 3-18 and I'm in charge of the organization, I'm putting somebody out there who's making the tent larger. I made sure on my multi-view, the Browns was up last week. I'm going to do it again this week. So are a lot of other people.

11:04Rich Eisen:You're a multi-view. It's not Ashton's? Well, I mean, I had my iPad. Because he had the big TV. Oh, the Bears have got to be on the main screen, huh? Yeah, the Browns were the second hour game. Okay, very good. That's true. They were in the late week. And then I put the Cowboys on the big TV. Okay, Jared Harris is coming out. we have our own What's More Likely for just the Thanksgiving games. Hit it. What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never. All right, Christopher. Hey, everybody. Thanksgiving triple header, John Madden celebration edition of What's More Likely. Yeah, let's do it. These are going to be three really fun games, I believe.

11:42Rich Eisen:Okay. Let's start right off the bat. More likely, the team with the best chance to win the NFC North, Packers or Lions? Mm. Mm. I'm going to go Packers. That tie, huh? Well, no. They've already beaten the Lions once. And they haven't played the Bears yet. Now, the Lions have played the Bears, and they 50-burgered them. So they do have that one up. But they've got one on the Lions here. And they're also a half game in front of the Lions. and we have seen the Packers stroll into Detroit and ruin the Thanksgiving in recent memory, have we not? We have. So, and they've got a better defense. Or more consistent, healthier.

12:29Rich Eisen:How does that sound? I mean, Micah and Aiden Hutchinson are two defensive player of the year monsters. But outside of that, I think the Packers have a better collective right now. So I'll go Green Bay. What else? should be really fun between these two offenses, I believe. More likely to be the higher total. Jameer Gibbs total yards. Whatever it is. I don't even know what the next. Whatever it is, A. Whatever it is. Or Jordan Love passing yards. Wait a second. Jordan Love has been under 180 the last three games. No touchdowns in three of the last four games. Jameer Gibbs. If you want his total yards totals.

13:12Rich Eisen:I think Jordan Love is going to have a good day. though 172 146 264 dude so gibbs has out totaled him the last couple of weeks right yeah for two of the last three weeks i'll i'm gonna drop the bit and i'll go with jordan love just because again passing yards it's pretty significant to have the amount of scrimmage yards that Jameer gives his hat. Yeah, he's been on a heater. He's running away from people. He's been on a heater. What else? Let's go to Dallas. TJ. More likely, Pat's catching due to combine for more yards and touchdowns. Kelsey, Rasheed Rice, or the 88s, George Pickens, and CeeDee Lamb.

14:00Rich Eisen:Irv is like taking a magic marker and then completing the three to make an eight, and then drawing another eight. Troy should let him wear eight. It's like Kill Bill with the crazy 88s. Let's go. I'll go. Four yards and touchdowns. I'll go Pickens and Lamb. Rice is questionable right now. You know, he was cramping or was that a hamstring or something. I'll go Pickens and Lamb. They've been on fire lately. What else? It's going to be pretty fun. And we don't retire numbers, so he technically could find a way. Oh, that's true. He could just. Yeah, he could wear eight. Okay. Or why could it be the higher number?

14:39Rich Eisen:How about this one? People who watch KC Dallas in millions. Okay. Or total points scored in the game. I'll go total points scored in the game. The total is 52 and a half right now. I'll go total points scored in the game. I mean, 50 million is a tall order. Yes. But I think it will reach it. But I think this is just going to be as advertised. It's going to be exciting. It's going to be filled with wow moments. I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it, but we have to. At least 24 hours. That's more likely. It happens now or we have to wait for it? I will go total points in the game. Okay. Shoot out tomorrow.

15:25Rich Eisen:How about that? That's fun. All right, in the nightcap, another slobber knocker. These two teams played last year, I think, what, over 70 points in both games. Is it more likely Joe Burrow looks like an MVP in the Bengals' win, or Derrick Henry runs wild and a Ravens blowout? Oh, I'll go Derrick Henry runs wild and a Ravens blowout. And that has nothing to do with Joe Burrow's abilities or my belief in him or my love for watching him play and my thankfulness that he is the guy that we heard in the very first segment of saying, I am a football player. I play football. I do not care how many wins or losses my team has for me to make a decision about coming back.

16:05Rich Eisen:I love playing football. I'm not worried about playing football because I am a football player. I love all of it. It's one of the many reasons why I am thankful for him and thankful that he is choosing to play on a Thanksgiving night to make this game far more interesting. But that said, Derrick Henry against this defense is a recipe for Thanksgiving eats. Certainly since Lamar doesn't look like Lamar. Lamar's last two games have chopped not only TJ, but yours truly out of our guillotine league. So there's that. I'm not bitter. Trust me, I'm not bitter. Of course not. Not a bitter man. Cooper's still alive.

16:49Rich Eisen:He is that. All right, last one. I'm thankful for both of you guys. I'm thankful for your football teams. Because you provide us with endless hilarity. More likely to forever be the biggest Thanksgiving Day blunder. Leon Lett versus the Dolphins. or, of course, the butt fumble. Why? What is this? I don't know what you're doing. What do you mean? I mean, just read the graphic. Leon Lett. Leon Lett touching a football that he should not have touched is a massive blunder in the snow that the game was over. The game was over. It was snowing in Dallas, which is crazy. The game was over. It was done.

17:31Rich Eisen:Hey, kids, there used to be a hole in the roof of old Texas Stadium because Cowboys fans would always say. Well, everyone. So it's because God wants to watch his favorite. It wasn't just Cowboys fans. It was OK. Sports Illustrated. Also, my brother and I, when we would watch the show Dallas on a Friday night in Staten Island, New York, in my parents in our house basement, we all got very excited when they showed the stadium. Like, I don't know why that got us excited. It's like, we're sports fans. They love sports, too. Oh, my God. J.R. Ewing goes to Dallas Cowboys game. One of my earliest memories is watching Dallas with my mom on a Friday night.

18:10Rich Eisen:I hear you. I can't remember anything else. But I'm talking this out like it's a who wants to be a millionaire thing because that calls the end of the game. The game was already pretty much done between the Patriots and the Jets. It was going to be the Patriots night. So it wasn't a game-ending play. but to see Mark Sanchez run into the taint of his own lineman in front of the entire nation, fall down and fumble, is a blunder, but it didn't cost them the game, just his own. That's true. It was already a lot at that point. Just the Jets organization's metaphor. Metaphor or just, it's embarrassing.

18:52Rich Eisen:The other one was actually game altering. Yeah. So, I'll go with that. Way on what wins. That's what's more likely, everybody. Before we get to Jared Harris and bring him out here from our green room, ESPN Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi-policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV, and more. All your protection in one place. Bundle and save at Progressive.com. He's an awesome actor in everything that he does. Those reawakenings available on Apple and Prime Video and A House of Dynamite on Netflix and Jared Harris on Disney Plus and ESPN Next.

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21:00Rich Eisen:Our radio audience, ESPN Radio, presented by Progressive Insurance, just returned. We just saw a clip of Reawakening, as we mentioned, available now on Apple and Prime Video. Jared Harris is here. And the things I love about movies like this one, Jared, uh because we also just had vince gilligan speaking of apple uh talking about pluribus we had him in last week and it's just writing stuff or or performing and things where what would you do how would you react yeah right because again the the clip we just saw of the father welcoming in in a way uh the 14 year old daughter who runs away and reappears as a 24 year old coming back sound you sound angry you sound you sound aggrieved and angry like so how really like how would you handle it right yeah i think part of what's going on is that there's a sort of um that the two of them are kind of teaming up you know and and and he doesn't really understand why his wife doesn't have the same questions as he does because he wants to know is it really her I mean, he wants to believe it's her, but at the same time, there's some red flags that are going off in his mind.

22:17And if it's not her, well, that's a pretty terrible thing to do to somebody. Correct. Is to show up and pretend to be the person that they've been waiting 10 years to come back.

22:27Rich Eisen:And that person deserves the scorn and the questioning. Yeah, if that is her. The winery question. Yeah. yeah so i mean and then you know the brilliant thing about it at the end of the day is the thriller element of is it her isn't it her is the sort of the carrot if you like but ultimately it's the sort of investigation of the kind of difference in the male and female psyche and um uh in the there's an opportunity for happiness which the mother embraces but very much in keeping with that male mind he wants to know the facts he needs to know the details before he can settle his mind to this he needs to know the facts so he can get at the truth but the truth might not make you happy you know the illusion might be make you happier again it's called reawakening available now on apple and prime video and it's interesting that you you mentioned netflix before because you're on that too yeah uh and again we we just talked about it with Tracy Letts last week, A House of Dynamite is riveting, frightening, and all in one.

23:30Rich Eisen:And you play a secretary of defense whose day begins on a golf course. Yeah. And it ends in a way that I don't think I want to reveal. Yeah. Because, spoiler alert, so what intrigued you about that project? Well, Catherine Bigelow. Catherine Bigelow's making the movie again, and they said that she's interested in you for a role, and I was like, well, I'm on board already. I chatted to her. I think she wanted to make sure I wasn't a lunatic. What do you mean by that? Well, they want to make sure that you're creating an environment, a working environment, and you want to make sure that you're bringing people in who have got the same mindset as you, if you like, about creating that work environment.

24:15And then she sent me the script, and I mean, I was a page-turner, so yeah.

24:20Rich Eisen:so when you're sure i didn't ask this is tracy let so i'm i'm going to correct that error here when you're shooting it first time we see you is in a zoom square yeah right because you're you're secretary of defense on a conversation that's happening you know um with people who are spread out all across the globe and then we wind up seeing how your day begins because that's the beauty of this movie is it's about an 18 20 minute period that just keeps being re-racked backwards you're working your way up the chain of command with each different section i didn't even recognize that yeah you're right okay you're getting closer and closer to the people who have to make this call and you know the other people are gathering the information and they're passing it up to the next level and they they have recommendations but by the time you get to that third uh section with the secretary of defense and then the president the president's ultimately the one who's got to make the call but the person who could advise him is the secretary of defense and he asked for his opinion but he's so distracted about what may or may not happen to his daughter that he he's he's taken his eye off that ball and he's now focused on that he's trying to figure out if he can save his daughter because she's living in the city of chicago where this missile is heading after um an attempt to shoot it down fails and your character has in my mind the line of the movie that scared me the most which is you know for how much what 550 billion dollars it's a freaking coin flip yeah whether we're going to be able to shoot this thing down it is that's true right like that is in fact well i mean you know the thing is i know that there's been pushback about it and and you know i'm not an expert but um i think it i think if there's a discrepancy about it it's real world results as opposed to you know the results that happen from when you're doing scenarios you know right but but also the other thing is is that that that deterrent that defense is only useful against um icbms they're not going to help you with submarine launch missiles i mean you have even shorter amount of time than a submarine i was just beginning to get back to sleep jared damn you know but so when you were shooting this film though were you did you have to redo the scenes over and over again or you did them once were knowing that you're on a zoom but you're being shot uh on camera we started we started in stratcom right and uh so i was in a little small area on the studio with a you know a wall behind me um going through all my bits that i was interacting with stratcom right not having done the other bits yet okay so then at that point you're trying to figure out okay where would i be at this point because am I still engaged in what's happening here or am I starting to get focused on, you know, find out where she is and get the helicopter to her and everything?

27:12Right. Because at some point I start to drift off. And I don't know if you know, it would be real inside baseball if you notice this, but at a certain point you no longer see him. Yeah, you were off camera. Because I've now split my focus and I'm actually, you know, I'm no longer engaged in that, what's happening at Stratco.

27:29Rich Eisen:I was just fascinated by all of it. Fascinated by all of it. So you didn't really interact with, did you, were you, were you interacting with your co-stars? I met them at lunchtime. That's what I was about to say, right? Yeah, because we're all in different parts of the studio. And then, and then they had the real guys there who actually spent their careers in Stratcom. There's two military advisors. Yeah, Tracy Letts said they were background actors. Yeah, they appear in the movie. But I would, any chance I got at lunchtime, I'd sit with them and chat to them and ask them about. so what scared you most chernobyl or this house of dynamite knowing you know learning about what happened in characters and what could happen again like what what what left you losing sleep the most jared harris well i remember i lived through chernobyl i remember that cloud heading towards uh london and so i remember that i remember living through that and i also remember living through you know when reagan was saber rattling and and um threatening the the soviet union having sleepless nights thinking if you're going to wake up and see the missile streaking in the air so they both sort of you know triggered trauma in my mind when i was younger i i think um uh on an existential level i think this one i mean you know chernobyl was a a it was localized and had the ability to cause massive problems all over Western Europe.

28:54But, yeah, this is a sort of end-of-the-world scenario, isn't it? Oh, my goodness.

29:00Rich Eisen:And, again, I made the mistake of watching it just about ready to go to sleep, too. Lovely. I had the same thing. I didn't sleep for five days after I saw the movie. And I knew what was going to happen as well. Really? Yeah. Jared Harris here on The Rich Eisen Show. All right, last time you were here was in support of Chernobyl, and you talked about, are you still a Man U fan? Oh, I am. Yeah, it's been a very, very painful decade. But go on. No, I'm just, you know, we had such a good time. You can't begrudge the whippings and the scourges that one has to take now during the last 12 years. Well, I'm bringing it up also because I just went to, attended my first ever Premier League match game.