In short
Episode topic: Rich Eisen discusses NFL contract market fallout from Will Anderson Jr.’s three-year, $150.5M extension (about $50M/year), calling it the highest non-quarterback annual salary floor and arguing it raises pressure on other elite defenders like Micah Parsons, Aidan Hutchinson, and especially Miles Garrett. “What’s More Likely” segment covers draft/trade hypotheticals (e.g., AJ Brown more likely than DeVonta Smith to be traded; Sonny Stiles over Jeremiah Love; Jacoby Brissett as Cardinals QB1 week one; Rams over Ravens).
Guest
Peter Farrelly, director of Balls Up (streaming on Prime Video).
Guest background
Two-time Academy Award winner; Farrelly brothers filmmaker known for Dumb and Dumber, Kingpin, and Something About Mary. Key claims/examples: Farrelly says Bill Murray’s Kingpin “Rose” bowling ball sold for about $350,000; describes Something About Mary’s hair-gel-on-ear gag as an idea originally considered for Seinfeld; praises Mark Wahlberg as an underrated straight man and Sacha Baron Cohen’s ad-libbing. Also mentions I Play Rocky (about Rocky’s making) with Anthony Ippolito as Stallone.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Peter Farrelly
1:12 to 1:55
Rich discusses Peter Farrelly's latest project and past collaborations.
“Two-time Academy Award winner Peter Farrelly.”
Analysis of Will Anderson's Contract
1:55 to 7:58
Exploring the implications of Will Anderson's contract on NFL salaries.
“Anyway, we go back in the day with Peter Farrelly.”
What's More Likely Segment Introduction
7:58 to 8:08
Introduction to the segment 'What's More Likely' with a focus on trades.
“And the third overall pick of that draft is currently being paid more than the second overall pick, and he's not the quarterback.”
What's More Likely: Player Trades and Draft Picks
8:08 to 12:02
Rich and guests speculate on player trades and draft predictions.
“That means they haven't got an acceptable tradeoff.”
What’s More Likely: NFL Season Predictions
12:02 to 14:00
Continued predictions for the upcoming NFL season and team performances.
“I want on a record that I wrote this last night before any of this news broke out.”
What's More Likely: NFL Season Predictions
14:00 to 18:01
Discussion on which NFL teams are likely to have better seasons and predictions for upcoming games.
“Who's going to have a better season next year?”
Peter Farrelly's Film Journey
18:34 to 28:00
Peter Farrelly shares insights about his films, casting choices, and behind-the-scenes stories.
“I've traveled all over for some of the biggest NFL moments you can imagine.”
Casting Jeff Daniels in Dumb and Dumber
28:00 to 29:10
Learn about the casting process and initial reactions from family.
“Do you have to convince the actor from, you know, terms of endearment at the very beginning and what he was doing on Broadway to convince him to be the guy on the toilet and things like that?”
The Iconic Hair Gel Scene from There's Something About Mary
29:10 to 30:50
Discover the backstory and creative process behind a famous comedic scene.
“And I remember my father holding on to my mother like, what kind of movie is this?”
The Controversy of Humor in Film
30:50 to 32:00
Explore the challenges and debates around using humor in movies.
“and then, you know, we're laughing about that, that somebody would see it, and then...”
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Mark Wahlberg's Underrated Comic Talent
32:00 to 33:20
Insights into Mark Wahlberg's surprising comedic abilities and performances.
“I mean, it was one of the biggest laughs ever.”
The Making and Legacy of Rocky
33:20 to 36:20
An in-depth discussion about the iconic film Rocky and its impact.
“Yeah, we went in to pitch him, but we became friends after that.”
Challenges Faced During Filming
36:20 to 37:50
Learn about the real-life struggles encountered during film production.
“We already have them all planned out, so we want to get back into that.”
Upcoming Projects and Collaborations
37:50 to 40:50
Discussion about future projects including new films and collaborations.
“I'm putting you on spots with names and stuff.”
Late Night Conversations and Private Plans
42:47 to 43:34
Listen to anecdotes about late-night conversations and humorous stories of promises made by wealthy friends.
“And this is a late at night conversation when people have had a few things.”
Peter Farrelly Talks Kingpin and Iconic Props
43:58 to 45:25
Peter Farrelly shares stories about the iconic Rose Bowling Ball from Kingpin and its auction price.
“uh you know we were gonna let you go but then we were kind enough to stay um where is the rose bowling ball from Kingpin?”
Memories of the Mutt Cut Cars
45:26 to 46:46
Farrelly reminisces about the Mutt Cut cars and a humorous moment with his daughter.
“Is there a specific baseball from Mary, or did you use any specific baseball?”
Shinola and Peter Farrelly's Collaboration
46:47 to 47:11
Explore Farrelly's friendship with Tom Cartzotis and the Shinola brand.
“That's what happens when you create Shinola.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Rich Eisen:For some of us, personal finances aren't just personal. They include a lot more people than ourselves. Loved ones, neighbours, the communities we call home, and the causes we hold in our hearts. At Thrivent, we help plan your financial picture with the bigger picture in mind. Because even though our business is helping guide your finances, our ambition is to make it mean so much more. Thrivent, where money means more. Connect with us at Thrivent.com. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on Disney Plus from noon to 3 Eastern.
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1:00Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. I'm just an on-air host. Rich Eisen. Looking for shoulder care. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. Earlier on the show, actor Zach Galifianakis. NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Steelers defensive tackle Cam Hayward. Coming up. Two-time Academy Award winner Peter Farrelly. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
1:55Rich Eisen:But Favre, right? We put them all together. Or they were here, right? We had Favre calling or something. Yeah, maybe that's it. Anyway, we go back in the day with Peter Farrelly. And he's since won an Oscar. And he's joining us again for, I mean, how to describe Balls Up? I think you just did. I don't. It's available for streaming now on Prom Video. Mark Wahlberg and Paul Walter Hauser, who is laugh out loud hilarious. they pitch a I'll use the phrase here a bold full coverage condom sponsorship with World Cup and by full coverage it doesn't mean the actual coverage of a business deal well maybe it does at any rate it's wild and Peter Farrelly is going to join us shortly to talk about it 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program Will Anderson has signed a three year contract extension for$150 $50 million.
2:52So that whole business of a fifth-year option being picked up,
3:01Rich Eisen:I imagine this is an extension after that. So they'll play it out, and then this three-year contract extension to keep it going,$50 million a year on average. It is the highest salary on an annual basis of anybody who doesn't play quarterback in the National Football League. This is a new threshold being set by the Houston Texans, 50 million bucks. The next one after that, who's not a quarterback, Micah Parsons, 46 and a half million. That was a quaint moment in time just for one year for him to be leading this pack. Aiden Hutchinson is third with 45 million bucks. Fourth is the recently pesayed Jackson Smith and Jigba at 42 and 1.5 million TJ Watt 41 million Jamar Chase 40.25 million I bring all this up for the point of saying the following first of all deserves it he's really really friggin good two this is now the floor for CJ Stroud that's it the idea of like you know what I'm gonna do a little bit of this a little bit of that it'll be less than 50 million bucks uh-uh why because you're not paying your quarterback less than your non-quarterback he's not their best player i'm telling you what's going to happen is there is this is the floor this is the floor doesn't and then i know it doesn't have to be i know what your point is about how quarterbacks don't have to be paid market value just because it's their time and will the Texans go into the season with Will Anderson having his future secured in their quarterback?
4:53Rich Eisen:Not. I think not. I think not. But getting Will Anderson done, three years, 50 million per, you heard Cam Hayward saying hour two when we brought this up to him about CJ Stroud, the longer you wait, the more it's going to cost, and they didn't wait for Will Anderson to see someone else set another market for them. And another person who's sitting somewhere, I'm wondering what he's thinking. And his name is Miles Garrett. $40 million a year when he and Will Anderson's making$50 million and TJ Watts making$41 million and Micah Parsons is making$46.5 million. I'm Miles Garrett. I'm thinking, huh?
5:50Huh?
5:52Rich Eisen:Really? That's the old SNL sketch. Really? Really? That's what I'm sitting there. Yeah. If I'm Miles Garrett, the Browns are going to have to do something. Yeah. Like what? Pay him. More? Yes. No. Okay. You trade him. I understand. They'll have to do something is what I said. You said pay him. I said yes. Or trade him. I'm not stirring anything up by saying it. I'm sorry. I don't think I am. That guy, the unanimous defensive player of the year. I mean, it wasn't even a question who was the best defensive player this year. There's not even a question. First battle Hall of Famer. I'm wondering what he's sitting there thinking.
6:49Rich Eisen:Maybe it could be nothing. Like, sure, I'll play for 40, whatever. I can't imagine. Yeah. He's now 10 off. 10 off. Two wide receivers make more than him. Three pass rushers make more than him. That's fair. Okay. Just turned 30. So those are my two cents about Will Anderson's signing. Oh, I was going to say the other thing that stood out to me, three-year deal. this seems to be the new norm for big time extensions um maybe so he also has a no contract no trade clause which is rare they gave him they gave him a lot and um three years but it's also it's his fourth year and then his fifth year option then the three years kick in so it's five they have five years of contractual control on him yeah he had two it'll be 25 and this doesn't replace anything this is a contract extension Yeah, he's getting absolutely pizzayed.
7:44Rich Eisen:But I'm sure there's guaranteed money. There's 130 and change. Yep. And some sort of signing bonus that enriches him at present. But good for the Houston Texans. And the third overall pick of that draft is currently being paid more than the second overall pick, and he's not the quarterback. Just saying. 844-204-RICH-NUMBER-DOLL. It's a what's more likely Friday. It's time to hit it, please. what what's more likely never say never but never what's more likely presented by Pella windows and doors has arrived you've got the floor Christopher hey guys happy Friday good to see you let's get right to it we got the draft next week thinking about guys who might be on the move rich eyes and how about this one what's more likely a player currently not available to be on a new team in week one.
8:40Rich Eisen:Devin A. Chan or A.J. Brown? A.J. Brown. Devin A. Chan's not going anywhere. Yeah, they keep telling me that. I know that, but he's younger. That means they haven't got an acceptable tradeoff. And he won't be as expensive as A.J. Brown yet. At the end of the day. He plays a position. I'm sure his agent is saying, yeah, let's talk all-purpose yards, not about what position he plays. Let's talk about percentage of yards. Let's talk about percentage of touches. let's talk about what the role is, not what his position is. I'm sure that's being a part of the conversation. Because if I was Devin A. Chan's representative, that's exactly what I would be talking about.
9:13Rich Eisen:He's younger than A.J. Brown, and he's going to be paid less than A.J. Brown. That's why he'll be kept, not A.J. Brown, in terms of age and in terms of salary. That's why Brown is more likely to be gone. All right, there you go. What else? Guys more likely to be drafted first. Not first overall, just first. Who will be first off the board? Next Thursday. There you go. First off the board. Thank you, Rich Eisen. You're welcome. I'm here. I'm a wordsmith. Jeremiah Love or Sonny Stiles? Oh, interesting. This is a good one. I like it. Two of the maybe best athletes, best quote unquote players in the draft?
9:53Rich Eisen:Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, good one. I'm going to go. Because the range for these guys seems to be 3-8. 3-8. 3-8. Yeah. 3-8. 3-8. 3-11. Who wants the runabout? Yeah, who wants them? Who wants someone like Sonny Stiles? Yeah. Oh, man. At the end of the day, I will say Stiles goes off the board first. Really? Yeah. And you're feeling? Call your shot. What? Where he goes? Yeah. Number. What do we got? Does someone trade up to get him, or do they stick and pick?
10:27Rich Eisen:Giants? Five? No, again, I keep hearing, you know, look elsewhere for him. But who knows? Fun, fun. I don't know. Tennessee? Tennessee. I don't know. Tennessee? Does Cleveland go for him? Well, if they trade Miles Garrett, they need a replace. Or I'm. Go on. I'll just go Stiles just because I think at the end of the day, people like running backs that high. I can't do it. And I made that noise. I don't agree with it. That's why I said it derisively. A mocking voice. I mocked it. It's like something your son would do. Rich, let's do it again. More likely to go off the board first next week. Ty Simpson or a second running back?
11:16Rich Eisen:I'll go Ty Simpson. The second running back, you could name him. We know who it's going to be. It's going to be Jadarian Price. He's going to be the teammate of Jeremiah Love. I will give him the respect of calling him Jeremiah Love's teammate rather than the other Notre Dame. I don't want to shortchange our game. You know what I mean? Jonah Coleman. You know what I mean? Like pork gets denigrated as the other white meat. Interesting. You know what I mean? I hear you. I'm trying to give pork respect by saying it's just another. Pork is delicious. You know, it's just another non-red meat food stuff.
11:51It's a long way of saying to Darian Price,
11:56Rich Eisen:the running back teammate of Jeremiah Love, will not go higher than Ty Simpson. Yeah, I agree. Okay. I want on a record that I wrote this last night before any of this news broke out. More likely to be the Cardinals QB1 this season. Jacoby Brissett, Gardner Minshew, or the field.
12:20Rich Eisen:QB1 meaning week one starter? Yeah. It'll be Jacoby Reset. Really? Yeah, yeah. Because it seems like he doesn't want to be there now. He does want to be there. He just doesn't want to be there making backup money if he's going to be the guy starting 18 games. Is he the guy? We'll talk about it in a few. Daniel Jeremiah tweeted out, Ty Simpson of the Cardinals seems inevitable. Yeah, right. Right. Well, you know, yeah, we'll talk about it a little bit. Okay, great. We haven't unpacked it yet. I don't wish to do it within here. For sure. Of what's more likely. But I'll go Jacoby Brissett as well.
12:55Rich Eisen:Yes, sir. A few more. Week one starter, right? Week one starter. Sure. Yeah. QB one, week one. Correct. No, but it's different. QB one could be like at the end of the day, who has the most starts for the Cardinals at quarterback. Okay. Who will that be? I would go the field. Okay. more likely team with new uniforms it's new uniform season i saw that rams to win more games this year rams or ravens i'll go rams oh not a right not a ravens believer now oh stop it come on i believe in the ravens not as much as the rams i believe in jesse minter and what he But come on, dude. Also, I guess it's not hitting me.
13:41Rich Eisen:I don't see what the Rams is different. I don't see the difference either. The new Rams. I don't get it. Those are the new ones? Yeah. They just look pretty damn clean, man. I think that's what the fix is. It's great. Yeah, they're just super clean now. Let me ask you this question, Chris. Am I going to buy a new one for my son? Yes. Okay. No, not just that. Oh. And that's why they create new uniforms. I get it. It works. Removing the toggery from the equation. Oh, big word, Lord. The what? The toggery. The clothing. The garments. Who's going to have a better season next year? The Rams or the Ravens?
14:14Rich Eisen:Who's more likely to have a better season? Who's in a tougher division? What else you got over there? Wow. What's more likely to be the higher number, guys? First round trades or Mike Trout home runs at Yankee Stadium this week? I would go Mike Trout home runs at Yankee Stadium. That's five. Just reminding you. You live in a glass house, pal. I would move on if I were you. I would move on. With what? I'm just asking a question. Okay. I'm happy to talk baseball with you at any point in time. Sure. It's April. Okay. But, yeah, there will not be six first-round draft trades. There will not. I'll put that number at three right now.
14:57Rich Eisen:Really? Yep. Just in the top ten or overall first round? Overall first round. Interesting. Yep. Guys, he's not here. We didn't remove the flag. The Cowboy flag is still there. That's the way he wanted his chair represented without him in it. I don't love this. He's counter-programming us right now, and I don't like it. More likely, Team TJ stops rooting for first. The Cowboys, Mets, or Clippers. Oh, he said he was out on the Mets just the other day, wouldn't he? Didn't he say that? He said that and the Clippers. But you never know what is real. He's not tapping out on any of his teams. He will never do that in the history of this program.
15:35Rich Eisen:He will never. Not even the Clippers? He will never tap out of them. I get that the Mets at least made a World Series recently and then won one in his lifetime. What have the Clippers ever given him? I understand that. An outlet to watch basketball out here. I just find it interesting that he chooses. I'm moving from Pennsylvania to Los Angeles. I'm a diehard Sixer fan. I need another team. I just find that compelling. Right. Like, you don't need another team. You don't. You definitely don't. You can go to some Clipper games and say, you know, you have an interest. We live in a day and age where you can keep up on your East Coast team, no problem.
16:14Rich Eisen:You want to keep talking about him without him being here? Yeah, since he's not here. Dude's got a Dodger jersey over there. What? Under his desk. Just pointing that out. What is happening? You sure you didn't plan it there? No, it's been there for a while. You're, like, taking over this place, and I don't quite appreciate it. No more hats for Del Tufo. No more. Jeez. All right, give it to me. You got what? One more? Hold you. What else do you want to know? All right, we'll get one more. Guys, it's the 15th anniversary of the Game of Thrones premiere. That's right. And it's Sean Bean's birthday.
16:49Rich Eisen:Oh, I didn't know that. Ned Stark. More likely Game of Thrones character that you would take number one overall in this year's draft. Hodor. Jon Snow, the Hound, the Night King, or Hodor? Or Hodor. I need offensive line help. Who in the world is going to get around Hodor? I don't care about his. Well, Jon Snow strikes me as the Fernando Mendoza of this draft. Well, the Night King could immediately end the competition with just one wave of his hand. Well, is it snow games? Yeah. Yeah. By the way, the Night King doesn't play in a dome. The Night King does not play in a dome. No. No, no. Buffalo, Green Bay.
17:26Rich Eisen:I mean, the Hound is very loyal. Edge rusher. He'll re-sign. Yeah. The Miles Garrett, maybe. And Jon Snow, you know, when you think he's out of a game, he'll just come right back. He comes right back. But Hodor. Hodor seems like a center. Are you kidding me? Hodor could play wherever he wants on the line. He's the whole line. Who's going to block Hodor? Who's blocking Hodor? I don't know. You can run a trap play with him. I'm glad that you sniffed the Hodor out. By the way, I said it before any other options. I called that blind. Yeah. what's more likely brought to you by Pella windows and doors.
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20:56Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show podcast. Well, you remember something about Mary. They were passing out hair gel to everybody at the time. Dead serious. I got to tell you, and I guess we'll start here. Peter Farrelly is here on The Rich Eisen Show. balls up streaming on prime video right now it's hilarious everybody should go check it out um something about mary i was on sports center when this came out um let me get this year right uh 98 so i was on sports center for two years and again sports center has was you know really in a a val holiday like back then in the 90s and yeah and uh and it had hit a certain status but when the line and something about Mary pops up, and Mary says that she wants to go and watch SportsCenter.
21:42Yeah.
21:43Rich Eisen:It was like an electric jolt sent through our newsroom. Seriously. We were just like, oh, my God. Yeah. It put it on a different plane. Well, it was part of our making her the perfect woman, and we thought, what would she do? And among many things, she'd want to watch SportsCenter, which is what we wanted to do. And by the way, I can't believe you were only on SportsCenter for two years. At that point in time. Oh, okay. I was there for seven. okay i was gonna say that's hard and it also gave me a different sense of myself that didn't actually match reality because any single time and i was a single man at the time you know suzy now but i was a single man at the time i would go to a bar and somebody would put a drink right in front of me and say that somebody would bought me a drink for the bar and i would look for you know cameron diaz and instead it was just some dude who looks you know like 500 like hey man let's go talk i'm like no thank you yeah you know you were like led zeppelin for guys you know like you guys would go, you got it.
22:37Nothing was cooler than SportsCenter at that time. It was a whole new thing. Up to then, remember, pretty much, well, a little before that, but it used to be five minutes of sports and all of a sudden you got these guys for half hour to hour.
22:50Rich Eisen:Is it true that Steve Young was a choice before Favre? Yeah. It was supposed to be Steve Young. We sent him the script for something about Mary and he was kind enough to call. He said, this is hysterical. He goes, but I can't do it. He goes, I'm Mormon and I know if I do it, all the kids are going to be sneaking into the theaters and it's not right. And I said, oh man, well, thanks. I appreciate it. And then we, uh, and then we went to, uh, actually, uh, the second was, uh, the, the Patriots quarterback. Uh, and then, uh, but he had a little, uh, he had the, the, the mosh pit incident where, you know, he was, he wanted to do it.
23:27And then he was out at a club and he jumped in a mosh pit and somebody got hurt and it was a big you know everyone was you know upset about it in boston so he said i can't go off and do a movie now because they're gonna right kill me and then we yeah went to brett but i mean he was fantastic
23:41Rich Eisen:he's great i mean the fact that he referred to him as brett the entire movie and then he shows up and then ben stiller couldn't pronounce his name favreau is yeah it's still as great that was an ad lib by the way that was by oh yeah by by uh ben ben just came you know brett far we were like you know, watching, which by the way, is a lot in this movie, Sacha Baron Cohen. Oh, great. He kills in this movie. He falls up. He's so good. And he basically, he pulled like a Bill Murray on us in Kingpin where he just took the words, you know, the lines and he's, yeah, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to do something else.
24:17And we're like, huh? And he just made up all his own stuff. Only it was way better, way better than written. And so we cross shot, we had to crush because he kept changing his lines. So camera on him, but also camera on Mark and on Paul Walter Hauser. So when you see their reaction to what he's saying, that's the first time they've heard it. They didn't see that. There's no script. So it was really fun.
24:39Rich Eisen:So Sacha Baron Cohen's like, I got this. Yeah. There's only a couple of guys you'd want to do that. You know, Bill Murray, Sacha Baron Cohen, Jim Carrey. Yeah. You know, yeah, go nuts. Whatever you want. And that's my job is just don't yell cut. Stay out of their way. Let them do what they want to do. So let's get into Bill Murray a little bit. Yeah. Bigger and McCracken. Yeah. All right. The choices here. The comb over. Yeah. Where did we get that one? Well, we had had a comb over on Woody Harrelson. We'd already done that. And then when Bill showed up, because he didn't come in until like three weeks into shooting.
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25:15Yeah. And he said, I was thinking of having a comb over. Well, we already have one with Woody. And I said, whoa, wait a second. This is good. Yeah, let's try that. So it was all his idea. He suggested the Como. Oh, yeah. As well as every single line in there was his line. He just, again, he would look at the dailies, I mean, the sides, you know, the pages you give them at the beginning of the day, and he'd just throw them aside and he'd just make everything up. You know, gravy train with biscuit wheels. We're like, what? You know, just killed. But it was just, I just remember thinking, don't yell cut.
25:53Because once I yelled cut after the end of the scene and he did more, I just don't yell cut until he's just exhausted.
26:01Rich Eisen:It's just film. Just let it roll. Yeah. Yeah. And the fake commercial as well. Yeah. Where he's, I guess you must have come up with this idea. And then he just came up with the lines for it where he's supporting all the fatherless children out there with hot mothers. Yeah. No, I think we might have actually written that. He did the lines there. But, yeah, that was fun. I wake up and he's already there. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love Kingpin. I'll be honest with you. I mean, Dumb and Dumber is outstanding. Something about Mary is kind of what, in a way, grounded it all together amongst all your films.
26:46Rich Eisen:but Kingpin was first, right? No, Dumb and Dumber was first. And then Kingpin, but the thing about Kingpin that makes it close to my heart is it didn't do well when it came out, it bombed. And it did like$5 million and it just seemed like a disaster. And when it came out on video, then people started seeing it, it became what it is. But also the great thing about Kingpin is Woody used to be my roommate, Woody Harrelson. When I first moved to LA, he moved to LA, we were roommates for four years before he got on chairs or actually just when we started getting becoming roommates, he got cheers. And so for us to suddenly be working together, it was like, this is nuts.
27:24How'd this happen?
27:25Rich Eisen:Did you have to, how did it, since dumb and dumber was first, you have problems selling it, given that, given an idea of what it was, you know, after we wrote dumb and dumber with Bennett Yellen, my brother, Bobby and I wrote it with Bennett Yellen. And, but everybody saw it as a Jim Carrey movie, which it was. And Jeff Daniels, you know, Jeff's God in that movie. But I think we weren't given enough credit, so it was hard to get the next movie made. Yeah, it wasn't easy. It wasn't like people were, yeah, go do it. Right. So we had to convince, you know, it was hard to get it going, and then, yeah.
27:56Rich Eisen:But Dumb and Dumber, we had Jeff Daniels here. Do you have to convince the actor from, you know, terms of endearment at the very beginning and what he was doing on Broadway to convince him to be the guy on the toilet and things like that? No, he was game. He was game. He was, you know, I had seen Something Wild, which is one of my all-time favorite movies. Oh, yeah, great. And he was so good in that. I wanted him from the beginning, and we really fought for him because the studio was like, no, you want to like a comedic actor? I was like, are you kidding me? Jeff Daniels is one of the best actors in life.
28:30He'll do comedy, drama, anything, and he did. You know, Purple Rose of Cairo still holds up. That's right. That is a classic. I've seen it recently. It's unbelievable. But, no, he came on, and he goes, hey, I know what you're asking about. I'm game. It's all good. Don't worry about it. I'm right. And by the way, when we did the toilet scene, it was the first day our parents were ever on the set. They walked in. And Bobby and I had been out in L.A. for nine years trying to get things done. They were like, what are you doing? How are you making a living? We were selling scripts and getting by. So we finally said, we got a movie.
29:05Come on out. And they came out. It was in Utah. And they walk on the set. And there's Jeff, like, sitting on the toilet. And I remember my father holding on to my mother like, what kind of movie is this? And they, oh, yeah, it's, you know, you'll see. That was your folks' introduction to your work. First thing they ever saw.
29:25Rich Eisen:Was Jeff Daniels on the toilet. On the toilet, yes. Dumb and dumb. And they were like, they didn't know what kind of movie it was. They were, yeah. But they're still proud. Yeah. Still proud. Well, when it came out, they got proud. Okay. And it hit it. Yeah. Is there one construct that you came up with in your films of this era that you're the most proud of? Like, you love the line, the scene. It could be anything. It could be poignant, whatever it is. Well, it's hard to beat the hair gel in Mary. Something about Mary. The whole setup. You know, the idea that, you know, that, you know, that a guy is going on a date and he's nervous.
30:10So he takes the pressure off by, you know, and and it ends up on his ear. And I remember but I remember Bobby and I coming up with that. We're driving in the car and I'd been thinking, you know, we've done some stuff for Seinfeld, too. And I thought, you know, it's a great Seinfeld thing. What if one of them, you know, masturbated and lost the product? and Bobby's like, it's hysterical. I said, yeah, but what do you do with it? He goes, yeah, but where is it? I said, I don't know. He goes, well, that's the funny part. Where did it end up? I said, I don't know. And then a few minutes later, we're like, what if it ended up on his ear?
30:44And then we're laughing about it, and then we're thinking, whoa, whoa, whoa. So it's on his ear, so then what? Say he goes out, or somebody comes to his house, and then, you know, we're laughing about that, that somebody would see it, and then... This was originally intended for Seinfeld? Well, the idea was. Okay. And then we were laughing. This takes place over like a half hour drive. And they would say, wait a second. If someone comes in and they see it, say it's a woman. What would they say it is? What would he say it is? It's a hair gel. And they were laughing just at that. And then the idea that she would take it and put it in her hair and then that it would harden.
31:24You know, the whole process. I remember we were just howling, but we thought, yeah, that's very funny, but how you can never do it. On network television. No. And then when we were making this movie, you know, we said, let's try it. And, you know, of course, the studios, they can't do that. It's NC-17 or X. Right. I was like, no, no, no, no. If it's for laughs, it's R. If it's for titillation, it's NC-17. This is clearly a laughter thing. But it was, you know, it was it was unprecedented, we'll say. Yeah. To do that in a movie. And so, you know, yeah, I'm proud of that.
32:03I mean, it was one of the biggest laughs ever.
32:06Rich Eisen:That's a nice thing. Certainly we remember it. Peter Farrelly here on the Rich Eisen show. Mark Wahlberg is just as funny. Wahlberg shocked me. Paul Walter Hauser, first of all, is a god. You know, if you don't know Paul Walter Hauser. He's been here. He's been in this chair before. He's funny. He's a god. Very, very funny. But I don't know if there's a better straight man in the last 20 years than Mark Wahlberg. Like, he's underrated. And I had met him once or twice, like, hi, how you doing? But I didn't know him until we were on this thing. Right. And I was stunned at how good that guy is. You know, and then I started looking back at all his movies.
32:40First of all, Boogie Nights, he should have won Best Actor. I agree. That was the best performance of the year. He was spectacular. He didn't get nominated. He got nothing. You go back and watch that today. That is one of the funniest movies. I mean, funniest performances of all time and just perfectly done. But anyway, I was blown away by him. And, you know, Sacha Baron Cohen is just, you know, and Molly Shannon. Molly Shannon, she's a Hall of Famer. I agree. Yeah. I mean, you got some comedy. Yeah. And Larry David's in there. He's got a little tiny little piece. LD. Yeah, just a little. How did you meet him?
33:21Pitching at Seinfeld. Okay. Yeah, we went in to pitch him, but we became friends after that. When I met him, I met him, you know, actually we met him through golf, and we played some golf. Okay. Yeah. All right.
33:36Rich Eisen:So what Seinfelds did you invite? We just went in and pitched a bunch, but the Virgin episode, you know, when he goes out with the Virgin. Yeah. Yeah, that was ours. But we didn't write it. We sold it. We got story credit. Got it. You know, we sold a couple other things to him. But, yeah, we were never on staff. Right. But we were always thinking, how can we get on staff? Right. So we were, you know, trying to. But you're talking about Wahlberg for sure. Like, Boogie Nights is one. Obviously, The Departed, he was spectacular in that. I think he was actually Oscar nominated for that. Oh, was he?
34:07Rich Eisen:You should have been. He was Oscar nominated as Best Supporting for that one, right? Yeah. Obviously, what he did with Ted was laugh out loud, funny, less straight man. The Will Ferrell movies that he's done, he's as funny as they come. He is. And like I said, I hadn't met him before. What an awesome guy. Just like a pro. Shows up, does his thing, open to anything, no attitude. He's a huge star, and he's got none of that. He doesn't feel like it. I know you're a golfer, too, for sure. I think I met your brother first at the Billy Andrade, who's. Right. Yeah. Brad Faxon. Brad Faxon in Rhode Island.
34:49Rich Eisen:Right. Yeah. You know, a charity tournament there. Yeah. And, you know, and Faxon and Andrade are in the opening scene of Kingpin, right? Yeah. They're in the disco bowling alley. The disco bowling. Yeah. Yeah. They come in. How do you even come up with an idea of Kingpin? Like, that is so outrageous from beginning to end. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't have the idea. It was an old script, and then we came in and rewrote it. But, yeah, it wasn't ours. But, yeah. And then the other photograph, you had put it up as well. We had to digitize it out from Balls Up. We just, you know, because they're holding up the product.
35:28Rich Eisen:I think this is what the marketing group sent to me, asking to post this thing, you know, in support of the film. You know, I mean, that's the prototype on which the covering goes. Yes, that's right. Am I correct? I guess so. I can't remember what he's holding there. He's holding something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can't talk about. And you're also on the campus here at DirecTV. Loudermilk was a terrific show that you did. Oh, I love that show. Ron Livingston, terrific. Yeah, we're still trying to get that back. You are? Yeah, we did three years on the audience network, and then they went broke. I know.
36:06Trust me, we were on it. Yeah. Went down too. Yeah, and then we ended up on Netflix, and it kind of blew up. It did. It did really well there, and then we got busy doing other stuff, but we want to come back because actually, you know, we did three years, but the fourth and fifth years are the best years. We already have them all planned out, so we want to get back into that.
36:25Rich Eisen:I see how it works, and your next film called I Play Rocky, which is about what? It's about the making of Rocky, and it's basically Stallone's story. And it's, you know, a lot of people don't know. He was homeless. You know, he was living in Penn Station. And he was, you know, he was down and out. He was doing softcore porn, you know. And then he wrote that script and he gave it to the studio and they're like, this is fantastic. And he says, great, but I play Rocky. And they're like, what does that mean? He goes, I play Rocky. And they said, what are you saying? He goes, I'm in the movie. And they're like, no.
37:02You're not in the movie. It's going to be like, you know, Burt Reynolds or Ryan O 'Neal or Clint Eastwood, not you. And he goes, then I'm not, then you can't have it. And it's that story about him holding out to be what became one of the, you know, all time great movies, a movie that broke the mold, changed cinema, you know. Who plays Stallone? A guy named Anthony Ippolito, a new guy. Okay. He's superstar, superstar.
37:31Rich Eisen:So you had to cast Burgess Meredith? Yeah. Who'd you get for that? Sorry, I don't mean to give a gun with these names. Come on, can we back this up? It's okay, no, it's alright, but you got Burgess Meredith, Talia Shire. Yeah, we've got them all. Carl Weathers. Stefan James plays Carl Weathers. He's super. A guy named Robert Morgan plays. Robert Morgan? Yeah, can we back that up? It's so good, man. I'm putting you on spots with names and stuff. Okay, Robert Morgan. Okay. Plays, yeah, plays Burgess. Burgess Meredith. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Eat lightning and crack thunder. He's fantastic. I'm a little ditzy today.
38:09It's all good. This is early. Yeah, Stephen James plays Carl Weathers. Yeah. Stephon James, yeah, he's sensational.
38:15Rich Eisen:I can't wait for this. One of my favorite TV shows of the last few years watching was The Offer about the making of The Godfather. And this sounds like what you're talking about. Yeah, but this was a movie and that was three. I know that that was a limited series. Do you remember the guy who played Al Pacino? In that? Yeah. Okay. There was a young guy. Is that the fellow you were talking about? That's Anthony Ippolito. Oh, man. It was going full circle and I had no idea. Yeah. That's Anthony Ippolito. That's the only thing that you would know him for. There you go. And here I am mentioning it.
38:45Rich Eisen:And again, I know it's two different endeavors. But I'm just talking about the similarity. Absolutely. It's like a backstory of an iconic 70s movie. Yeah. And how it gets made. Yeah. And what we executives are saying and how close it wasn't to being getting made. And then when they finally said, OK, we'll do it with you. They said you got the budget's a million dollars. You got four weeks. And if you fall one day behind schedule, we can replace you. He had to sign on that. And then basically everything that could go wrong could did. And I'm not saying that they planned it that way. But like when the meat came, you know, the punching.
39:26frozen solid. It was like hitting granite. He broke both hands hitting that meat. In real life? Yes, when he was shooting the movie.
39:34Rich Eisen:And he hit that Rocky punch. Yeah, and he said, wait, I can't hit. This is an icicle. And they're like, well, we could thaw it out. How? We got blow dryers to take an hour and a half. He's like, let's just do it, because he couldn't fall behind. It's amazing. Yeah, it's an unbelievable story. It's coming out this fall? Yeah. It comes out the 50th anniversary of the original Rocky. Dude. November. Yeah. But don't forget it balls up. Of course. No, I understand that. But you also mentioned the name of an actor in my ear. I did. Now you had me at hello. Go ahead. Tracy Letts is in this. Tracy Letts is in this too?
40:06Tracy Letts is so good in this. He's good in everything. No, no. You have no idea. He's a studio head. Oh, perfect. And he is, he kills, you know, absolutely kills. I mean, I knew he was funny when we were doing it, but when we tested it, through the roof, this guy just kills.
40:25Rich Eisen:He was here a few months ago, and I fanboyed him the entire night. Yeah. He's great in absolutely everything. Yeah. You know, Ford versus Ferrari. He plays a member of the Ford family. Oh, yeah. That's a similar vein of who he might be. And he's also won the Pulitzer Prize for. For Osage County. Yeah. Yeah. He's the real deal. So are you, sir. Thank you. That's later on this fall, but Balls Up is available right now, streaming on Prime Video. Benjamin Bratt is in it as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Dude. You'll never see Benjamin Bratt in a better role for him. He killed. Just in time for the actual World Cup.
41:03Rich Eisen:Yeah. Fantastic. Great to see you, man. Great to see you. Anytime. Thanks for having me. I love being here. I just love this room. Yeah, you got it. We got to get something from your filmography in here. Where is the Rose Bowling Ball? Okay. It's an interesting story. Are we still going? How about we take a break and we finish up? Let's do it. Great. look at us. That's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show right here with Peter Farrelly. Thanks.
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42:47Rich Eisen:The Rich Eisen Show, the podcast. Going to play a gust. I said, when? I'll just call him right on it. When is it? And they, well, we'll get a time. So give me a time right now. I'll lock it in. And they're like, we're going to do it. And this is a late at night conversation when people have had a few things. That's the biggest lie in the South. That someone can get you on. I'm going to get you on. and every one of them says we're going to fly there on their private plane. And I never got there. Meanwhile, they're in a middle seat playing some sort of community course. Guys in Atlanta right now, if they're watching this, are sweating because they know they've said it to 10 people.
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43:25Rich Eisen:Oh, Peter Farrell. That's so great. In a world in need of a hero, one man rises to the challenge and style. He's driving the kids to soccer practice. That's what he's doing. You can make every day feel epic in the all-new Hyundai Palisade hybrid with up to an epa estimated 619 miles of range on select trims advanced tech and glass leading interior space because when you're hauling kids gear snacks and backpacks space matters and so does comfort just make sure they keep their cleats off the seats the all-new hyundai palisade hybrid visit hyundaiusa.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details all right peter farrelly before uh you know we were gonna let you go but then we were kind enough to stay um where is the rose bowling ball from Kingpin?
44:07There were two balls. There was a backup ball in case, you know, we lose one. You always have to have another one. And I have the original. Oh, yes. I took it home and I lent it to my friend Patrick Lyons. He has a bowling alley in downtown Boston, a really good one, and they have a whole Kingpin wall. And the balls are there and a couple of the wooden pins from when he was a kid. They're in there. But about a year ago, I see that the other Rose Bowl is going up for sale. It's being auctioned off. How much do you think it went for?
44:44Rich Eisen:Six figures. More than that. $350 ,000. It went for more than the whip in Indiana Jones, more than the hatchet in The Shining, more than the dress that she wore in Titanic. Get out of here. That's Bill Murray. That's how much people love Bill Murray. The Bill Murray effect. The idea that he held this thing. Well, Harrison Ford held the whip. I know. Wow. Yeah. I mean, the ball is iconic. My wife immediately said, get the ball back. That's right. Right now. Get it right back. I was like, well, it's okay. Baxies, right? We used to call it back in camp. I call Baxies. I'll take it back. Yeah. Really?
45:33Rich Eisen:No. Wow. Is there a specific baseball from Mary, or did you use any specific baseball? Yeah, no, I never got that. I don't have a lot of stuff, but my big one is, well, we had the Mutt Cut cars. There were two of those. My brother got one and I got one. Okay. Yeah. That car existed? Yes. Oh, yeah. The Mutt Cut vehicles. And I picked my daughter up once in high school in it. I did not. She was humiliated. she was so like all the kids were running over and looking at it she was like a freshman the last thing she wants is any kind of attention and uh i had just gotten it fixed and it was taken taken to my house so i went i was picking her up i thought this would be funny she didn't find it funny at all she was she's still mad at me about it but it's an iconic film i know Yeah, I gave that to my friend Tom Cartzotis.
46:29Because he's, do you know, anyway, Tom's a good friend of mine. And he started Shinola. Oh, wow.
46:36Rich Eisen:You love it right now. I'm wearing one right now. Did you get one? Me too. Did you get your watch fix? I did get my watch fixed. Yeah. I got one. Great watch. But he was a good friend. And he is a good friend. So, yeah, he has it. I think he put it in his house. Parked it in the basement somehow. That's what happens when you create Shinola. The movie is called Balls Up, available now for streaming on Prime Video. Mark Wahlberg, Paul Walter Hauser, Molly Shannon, Benjamin Bratt, Sacha Baron Cohen, directed by this man, Peter Farrelly. Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. I love it. I love coming here.
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