How Amazing Would It Be If the Jaguars Became Must See?

25 Jul 2025 · 49 min · 25 chapters

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In short

The Rich Eisen Show (Hour 3) discusses NFL offseason storylines and training-camp optimism, centered on Christian Wilkins’ Raiders release/possible grievance, plus a “worst-to-first” debate and a “Jaguars must-see” pitch. It also features a long interview with actor Tony Hale promoting his film Sketch.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  1. Tony Hale: Emmy-winning actor known for Arrested Development and Beat; also starred in The Mysterious Benedict Society. Promotes Sketch (in theaters nationwide starting Aug. 6).
  2. Omar Khan: Steelers General Manager (appears earlier in the show).
  3. Mark Schlereth: three-time Super Bowl champion (appears earlier in the show).
  4. Brent Musburger: sports broadcaster (appears later in the show).
  5. Travis Hunter: discussed via call/segment (Jacksonville Jaguars “must-see” discussion).

Key claims / notable examples

  • Christian Wilkins: Raiders cut him after foot rehab concerns; Raiders voided $37M guarantees citing failure to maintain physical condition; Wilkins filed a grievance on the 50th/last day; teams may “test drive” his foot health; Patriots reportedly “kick the tires.”
  • Worst-to-first: callers suggest Bears as a flip candidate; Ben Johnson/Caleb Williams film-study/dynasty talk.
  • Training-camp positivity: Bill Musgrave hype; Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel “stellar” progress; Shador emphasizes competition and content.
  • Jaguars must-see: Travis Hunter, Brian Thomas, Trevor Lawrence, Liam Cohen, and Josh Allen referenced as reasons for flexing Jacksonville.

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Chapters

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Injuries and NFL Updates

0:03 to 0:31

Discussion about Justin Fields' injury and its implications.

“So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for.”

Injuries and NFL Updates

1:40 to 2:30

Discussion about Justin Fields' injury and its implications.

“One of our favorite humans to appear on this program.”

Christian Wilkins' Situation

2:30 to 4:30

Analysis of Christian Wilkins' cut from the Raiders and potential next steps.

“844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program.”

Callers Join the Discussion

4:30 to 7:40

Listener Mike discusses the worst-to-first game and team predictions.

“was the 50th and final day that he had a chance to do it.”

Shador Sanders and Training Camp Competitions

7:40 to 10:00

Discussion about Shador Sanders and competition dynamics in training camps.

“I have no idea what's right, what's wrong, who's right, who's wrong.”

Waymo Vehicles and Conversations

10:00 to 14:00

Light-hearted conversation about autonomous vehicles and their functionalities.

“You know, I think Bruce said it in an interview when he was doing his training camp, but it was true.”

Discussion on Waymo and Autonomous Cars

14:00 to 16:40

Explore the quirks and functionalities of driverless cars and their interaction with humans.

“Maybe for somebody with a 4.6 rating where you just want to talk to people.”

Tony Hale's New Project: Sketch

18:12 to 19:00

Tony Hale discusses his film Sketch, its themes, and the lengthy production process.

“Ladies and gentlemen, our next guest has won Emmy Awards.”

Parenting and Kids' Emotions

19:00 to 21:00

Tony and Rich discuss the challenges of parenting and understanding children's feelings.

“But my daughter, I don't know if you just finished her freshman year at college.”

Life Changes and Family Ties

21:00 to 23:12

Tony shares his recent move to Alabama and its impact on family connections.

“It's really, and it's just so, because the cool thing is when she draws these pictures and they come to life, they don't look CGI.”
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Voice Memo for Cage

23:12 to 23:35

Tony records a special message for Rich's child, Cage, in character as Forky from Toy Story.

“So once my daughter graduated, we decided to make the move.”

Football Talk and Observations

23:35 to 28:01

A light-hearted discussion about football, including its rules and terminology.

“Don't ever underestimate my selflessness.”

Discussion on Movie Ratings

28:01 to 28:30

Exploring the nuances of movie ratings and perceptions.

“If they come up and go, oh, man, it is so solid.”

Driverless Cars and Trust Issues

28:30 to 29:20

Discussing the concept of driverless cars and personal trust in technology.

“Where do you stand on driverless cars, Tony?”

Stunt Stories and Experiences

29:20 to 30:05

Sharing personal experiences with stunts and safety in filming.

“I mean, it's like the thing is you're attached to a guy who's professional, but who's to say his string doesn't work.”

Memorable Experiences with Liza Minnelli

30:05 to 31:33

Recalling a unique friendship and experiences with Liza Minnelli.

“do you do roller coasters uh i used to and the older i've gotten it's hard not to get to a narrative that something's going to go wrong.”

The Emmy Awards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus

31:33 to 35:28

Revisiting a memorable Emmy moment with Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

“And that's the way that they came up with the concert.”

Veep Reunion Talks

35:28 to 36:56

Discussing the possibility of a Veep reunion and its dynamics.

“Well, I mean, it makes complete sense, you know, because of who she is.”

Humor and Improvisation on Set

36:56 to 38:28

Insights into the humor and improvisation that occur during filming.

“The best part about this, too, is that the purse is so small, and you're like pulling it way up here with both hands.”

Brent Musburger and Jim Brockmire

40:49 to 42:00

A humorous exchange about Brent Musburger and his influence.

“Listen, you guys, you and the producers, you deserve, oh, man, a pat on the back.”

Sports Gambling Insights and Inside Jokes

42:00 to 43:38

A humorous take on sports gambling knowledge intertwined with personal anecdotes.

“Do they really know anything about sports gambling?”

Lenny from Panama City Calls In

43:38 to 45:30

Listener Lenny shares a humorous interaction regarding a win-loss prediction for the Buccaneers.

“I just got all this cannabis bark out of my mouth so I could talk to you.”

Travis Hunter's Determination

45:30 to 47:04

Discussion about Travis Hunter's aspirations and mindset in football.

“This is what I want to hear from Travis Hunter.”

Jaguars Becoming Must-See TV

47:04 to 47:26

Excitement builds around the potential of the Jaguars becoming a must-watch team.

“Jacksonville Jaguars become must-see television.”

Lighthearted Banter and Football Gear

47:26 to 48:48

Casual discussions about sports gear and playful exchanges among hosts.

“I just wanted to say if Susie was listening right now, I don't believe she is listening.”
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0:00This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. Hey Chicago, class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look.

0:44Try it. Style it. Make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up, it shows off. First day fits, handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest Crocs store today. This is the Rich Eisen Show. We're full service here, man.

1:04Rich Eisen:You come here, you get everything. The Rich Eisen Show. A dislocated toe. Sounds pretty damn bad. From the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I like Justin Fields. A dislocated toe on his right foot. He's day-to-day. He could be back tomorrow. Okay. Wouldn't that be wonderful? I need to put that foot in some Epsom sauce. Get that sweat on out of there. Earlier on the show, three-time Super Bowl champion Mark Schlereth. Steelers General Manager Omar Khan. Coming up, three-time Emmy Award winning actor Tony Hale. And now, it's Rich Eisen. Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air.

1:43Rich Eisen:One of our favorite humans to appear on this program. Is this the fourth appearance of Tony Hale on this show? I was thinking it's got to be at least four. Okay. This guy's as funny and talented as they come from Arrested Development and Beat back in the day. Also, the Mysterious Benedict Society is just an awesome show that he did for a couple of years. Won an Emmy for that, too. He's in our green room right now. Another beautiful project of his called Sketch is available in theaters nationwide beginning Wednesday, August 6th. Currently on Rotten Tomatoes, 100%. And you know, in this day and age, there's always somebody that's just going to.

2:19Yeah.

2:19Rich Eisen:I mean, even somebody left Ichiro and Derek Jeter off their Hall of Fame. Stupid. You know, ballots, right? So dumb. So to get 100 % in this day and age, pretty cool. And it's always a delight when he joins us, and he shall very shortly. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program. We're going to take a bunch of phone calls. So Christian Wilkins gets cut by the Vegas Raiders. And, you know, it's got to be something significant when Pete Carroll's going to just take one of the top defensive linemen in the league from a couple years ago and just say, yeah, this is not working out. Guy got hurt last year, and this year wasn't at any of the OTAs on the field.

3:11Rich Eisen:And there was a big question as to whether he was going to even be able to come back and play this year. Wasn't at the mandatory mini camp. He did show up without a helmet in an 11-on-11 period for the first OTA practice open to reporters this spring. But 17 tackles, two sacks, and six quarterback hits in five games before he got hurt. This is a guy who got a massive contract to leave the Miami Dolphins and join the Vegas Raiders. and apparently the Raiders thought he needed another surgery on his foot, didn't want to get it, according to ESPN, or balked at getting it. The Raiders then voided the guaranteed money left on his deal to quote-unquote failure to maintain his physical condition to play.

4:06Needless to say, they went ahead and, on Wilkins' side, filed a grievance.

4:12Rich Eisen:Just like, okay, so I got hurt. It's not fast enough for you. you're going to cut me and not pay me money. I don't know the legality of all this, and this may go to an arbitrator or whatever. He had 50 days to file a grievance, and apparently the grievance being filed on Thursday was the 50th and final day that he had a chance to do it. Yeah, Pete Carroll said they spent a lot of time figuring out what to do and how to handle this, ultimately decided to move on because they didn't believe there was a path for him to return to play. Yeah, the money that they voided on his contract was on June 4th.

4:53Rich Eisen:So he had 50 days to file a grievance. He did it. And the Raiders, I think, said, I don't know if the grievance led to the cut or the cut led to the grievance being filed. Wow. But that's just one of those things where... Man, he was the defensive free agent two years ago. He was. And then you put him on the same line as Max Crosby. I thought, okay, this is another reason why Pete Carroll would want to take a job like this.

5:21Rich Eisen:Now, every team in the league, I'd imagine, is finding out when can they test drive this guy's foot. And you know that guy in the hat for the Dallas Cowboys that you never want to see standing over any player, right? Cowboy hat. Cowboy hat guy. Guy in the hat. don't want to see the guy in the hat in Dallas. That guy in the hat in Dallas, do you think the Dallas Cowboys are going to call the guy in the hat or whoever they have on their staff and say, let's find out about Christian Wilkins? ASAP. Right? Like big time. But if he can't play and he can't do it, that's a different situation. Patriots are looking into him apparently, right?

6:09Rich Eisen:Yeah. Mike Vrabel had a relationship with Christian Wilkins. You recruited him when he was coaching at Ohio State. Yeah, he's from New England. When he was at Ohio State, Vrabel talking to him. So they said they're going to kick the tires, have a conversation, and see what's what. And, again, it's one of those things, top five prime destinations for Christian Wilkins is your team. Your team, your team, your team. Unless he can't play and isn't, according to the Raiders, Let me get another not taking his what rehab seriously enough. I don't know. They didn't follow what they wanted him to do, and so that's it.

6:51Rich Eisen:This transaction is necessary for the entire organization to move forward and prepare for a new season, according to the Las Vegas Raiders. You don't usually see that sort of thing. No. So there you have it. Is Christian Wilkins healthy? And if he is, will he play this year? and then the question is, why not for the Raiders? Okay. Yeah, losing out on$37 million in guarantees. Unless he wins his grievance. Unless he wins his grievance. Because that's a massive cap hit. I think on the cap next year, 55 million bucks for the Raiders. That's a big chunk. That's a massive chunk of your... It's crazy.

7:29Rich Eisen:Suffered in his left foot from a Jones fracture last October.

7:36Rich Eisen:So, that's the latest there. I'm not going to chime in. I have no idea what's right, what's wrong, who's right, who's wrong. Yeah, no. But it's just wild that one of the best defensive free agents from two years ago is now available for anybody to kick the tires on. Mike in Wappingers Falls, New York. What's up, Mike? Hello, Rich Eisen. How are you? Oh, fine. What a blessing to hear from somebody from your neck of the woods. What's going on? I was wondering if you guys would like to do the worst-to-first game. I looked it up. Okay. And since 2002, only four years did they not have a team go from worst-to-first, and it was last year included.

8:19Rich Eisen:Look at you. Yes. Thank you. I was doing this with my buddy the other night. Look at you bringing nuggets to the table. I had no idea, Mike. Wappinger Falls nuggets. Those are the best types of nuggets. Okay. So, what do you think? Mike, you want to give me some ideas? What do you got? I'm thinking San Francisco seems like an obvious choice. Let's remove them from the equation. What do you say? Yeah, I think that that's really no fun. Chris, who are Mike's options? So last year's worst place team, San Francisco, New Orleans, Chicago, and the Giants in the NFC, Raiders, Titans, Browns, Patriots, AFC.

8:59I got to go with the Bears up there. Because, I don't know, I'm just not buying anybody at this point in that division. So maybe they are the ones who could flip it this year. And I know the Lions, you know, are number one seed. I get it. But that's the division I don't trust any of the teams the most.

9:21Rich Eisen:Okay. Thank you very much, Mike. Not a bad choice, the Bears, right? because Ben Johnson's coming in and we're assuming just right off the bat he's going to tell Caleb Williams how to watch film. Right? Just one must assume, and we know assuming is dangerous because of what it makes you and me. I would assume it's already been done. We're assuming they're already down that road, right? Like that horse has already left the barn. Already left it. The bear has left the den. Okay? They're not hibernating on that issue. I don't know how many other references we can make here. But apparently they're also – Ben Johnson is building a dynasty there in Chicago.

10:04Rich Eisen:Yes. So says Kevin Byard. We're trying to win the Super Bowl. You know, I think Bruce said it in an interview when he was doing his training camp, but it was true. Ben Johnson wants to build a dynasty, and we want to be that dynasty. We want to be the guys that kind of get this thing started. Myself, I want to be one of the guys that kind of build the foundation of that and continue to go as long as we possibly can. And so that's the goal. But like I said, man, we have a long way to go to be able to accomplish that. All right. I like it. But it's also, you know, that time of year. It's that time of year.

10:35Rich Eisen:You know, we should do a segment, like a daily segment of everybody's 0-0 and going to be 17-0. That's training camp positivity. So should we call it what the glass, the half-full glass summer? Sure. I mean, right? I like it. Today's champion may be Bill Musgrave, the quarterback coach of the Browns. This guy, man. Some of these quotes. He called Kenny Pickett's first two practices of training camp, quote unquote, stellar. Stellar. The two rookie quarterbacks, Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders, both rookies have really progressed. They're both going to have fantastic careers. Oh, okay. Okay. All right.

11:24Rich Eisen:Jeez. They're both. Yeah. So that's great. Call Joe Flacco a six-foot-six flamethrower. Still has one of the NFL's best arms. Bill Musgrave, man. Man, can he come here and just hype us up, Mike? What do we got? We got sunshine and rainbows there in Berea. Yeah, I love it. Okay. Shador Sanders spoke with the media today. So did Dylan Gabriel, by the way. Okay. But, I mean, seriously, with all due respect to Dylan, we're here from Shador, right? Since we're always accused of being Shador's biggest cheerleaders. This should do nothing to dispel anybody of that notion in a YouTube comment or so. All right.

12:10Rich Eisen:What is Shador talking about? What are we talking about with Shador Sanders? Oh, the competition. That's got to be, I mean, it's stellar. It involves a flamethrower. Flamethrower. A stellar performer. and two future fantastic rookies. Great careers. One of them is Shadour. How are you approaching the four-man competition as you get to training camp, as you get closer to preseason and then week one?

12:37Tony Hale:I'm focused on doing me. I'm focused on learning what I need to learn. That's simply it. Are you thinking about winning that job for week one? I don't think nobody in this organization is here if they're not trying to win. And honestly, I think, you know, they're trying to win who gives out the best water and Gatorades out here. So it's definitely a competition in everything in life. So many cameras out here, it's definitely a competition with content, obviously, too. So I think everything in life boils down to competition.

13:09Rich Eisen:I love it. Spoken just like his dad. Shador wants to be in the water boy, too. Talking about handing out the best Gatorade. He seems at the content. He knows he's got his content gold. his speeding tickets were brought up. Quote, definitely learned not to drive fast. I really don't even drive that much anymore. I hope everybody learned from my situation to not drive fast at all. Smart. Yes, that's correct. Is he taking the Berea Waymos now? Is that what's happening now? I would like that. Have you been in one of those? I am not. Me neither. I'm going to do it. Guys that play poker swear by it.

13:50Rich Eisen:They love it. I got to try it. Well, Mike. I'm there. Who are you going to talk to? Listen, hold on a second. You. It's your perfect. No, it's not. Not for you. Maybe for somebody with a 4.6 rating where you just want to talk to people. What are you going to talk to yourself in there? The Waymo's got a little computer in there. Who knows? Dude, it's not like Kit. It's not Knight Rider. It doesn't talk to you. At least I don't think. I'm going to try. I just made that reference, dude. That was a great kit reference. Kids don't know about night ride. It's not like that. I started here in the second.

14:24Rich Eisen:Hello, Mike Del Tufo. Where do you want to go? Tell us about your running friends that you hand feed. I'm going to text my friend because he takes them all the time. Okay. I bet you it talks to you. I bet. And your friend who knows you would know you'd be driving nuts. Can I go in the front seat of it? Would it say you cannot ride in the front? I don't think it talks to you, Mike. That's the problem. You want to be talked to. You want to talk to others. You're an outgoing individual. The Waymo has to speak. The Waymo has to talk to you. I don't think it does. I've never been in one, but does it?

14:56Rich Eisen:Yes. Waymo vehicles communicate with riders and other road users, but not in a conversational way. That is why I have the highest Uber rating, people. I know these cars. By the way, it would be just my luck to get the only distracted driverless car. Right? I get in there, and the car, the driver that doesn't exist, it's the most distracted Waymo which is what you would create by talking to it Susie gets in and one of them has like a yeah but she would like it because nobody's wearing cologne to drive she would like it I wouldn't mind it except for the fact that it would get the only one that distracted I gotta see if it plays music I'm gonna try it I'm gonna try it I know people who use them they love them I almost like there's times there's three or four of them when I'm coming down Pico.

15:49Rich Eisen:I don't know. Like all around me. I heard that they're very also, they don't take risks. No. These cars don't take risks. Like instead of crossing multiple lanes of traffic, it will go right and then a left and then a left. That's what I heard. Yeah. It makes like an 80-year-old Prius driver look like Mario Andretti. Right. So, you know. I guess that's a good thing Nothing slower than a Prius driver here in Los Angeles I've never I've never seen one pulled over for speeding Ever And I'm caught behind it every time It's like sitting next to someone On a plane in the order of V8 Because I don't like tomato juice I'm with you Rich on that one Always Didn't think we'd go here In this conversation That's alright It's all good 844-204-RICH is the number to dial.

16:45Rich Eisen:Let's bring our next guest out. He's a delight. He's sitting in our green room. I think he's done with the popcorn that we have back there. Good for him. Get your popcorn ready. For Tony Hale, the award winner, coming out here to talk about Sketch in theaters near you Wednesday, August 6th. Rich Eisen here. Running a small business means every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow. The challenge? Finding that person without sorting through resumes. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent.

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18:28Rich Eisen:Emmy Award winning actor. That's so interesting. That's what I was told. That's how you demand to be introduced, Tony.

18:33Tony Hale:My only value. Hey, this is Tony Hill. He's won Emmys. He has won Emmys. I'm a father. I'm a husband. Keep going. A really good friend.

18:42Rich Eisen:There's more to you than just the statues. Thank you. I did bring them, though.

18:50Rich Eisen:One, two, three.

18:54Tony Hale:But not my identity.

18:56Rich Eisen:Not at all. Sketch is available in theaters nationwide beginning Wednesday, August 6th. uh essentially uh inside out meets jumanji jumanji okay jurassic park inside out meets

19:07Tony Hale:because it's uh it's this incredibly fun family film with this just undertone of just really powerful talk about processing feelings already audiences rejoin not been in the best clip because it's kind of confusing but she gets in trouble for drawing these pretty um crazy pictures and they this therapist tells her because they were about a bully and tell her so did you want to do these things and she was honest and she said yeah and the therapist said well i think it's a good idea you drew them rather than did them it talks a lot about processing feelings and then these pictures come to life and it is oh guys it's so good i really can't wait for people to see it well

19:46Rich Eisen:that's why there's it's 100 on rotten tomatoes 100 on rotten tomatoes my mother my father wrote one that's two for two that's two for two but that that clip right there tony just speaks so many volumes where you know you're waiting for your kids to come home from school and you're happy and then all crap begins just goes straight down the crapper because you have no idea what is going

20:10Tony Hale:on in school you have no idea i know and questions are not answered never no it's just fine or is you all right yeah it's like okay well i've got a whole narrative in my head yes is this where we

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20:21Rich Eisen:should now say we definitely love our children is this the support of the conversation we should Just remind everybody. I adore my daughter. I adore.

20:29Tony Hale:But my daughter, I don't know if you just finished her freshman year at college. Dude. And she's absolutely loving it. The weird thing is when she's home, you know, it's a false sense of control, but you're always like, when she's driving, you're like, be careful, be careful, be careful. And now you don't have such a powerless feeling. You just kind of let them go. Yes, you have to. Trust that they are making good choices.

20:52Rich Eisen:Well, Chris, you're far away from that. I am. Cage is five, right? Cage is five. So sketch is perfect for Cage.

20:58Tony Hale:Cage is, yeah, he's going to love it. This is great, yeah. It's really, and it's just so, because the cool thing is when she draws these pictures and they come to life, they don't look CGI. They don't look out of time. They look like they were drawn by a kid with like crayons or markers or chalk. Sure. And you see the textures and it's like, this is one of them in the poster. This is Dave that she drew in her notebook. And it's just a really beautiful film.

21:22Rich Eisen:And again, it took us eight years to get made. Eight? Eight years? Eight years, yeah. So, like, studios need to be arm-twisted?

21:29Tony Hale:Yeah, we had all the—we had the idea kind of back—he had the idea, and we kind of went back and forth and lost financing, found financing. Sure. It was going to be a TV show, and then in and out of producers, and finally found someone. And then with the post and special effects, we finally got it made. And it's like, man, it's like launching a baby into the world.

21:46Rich Eisen:Of course. I imagine. So this predates most of the last few things that you've done, basically. Yeah, totally, totally.

21:53Tony Hale:But it's always been in the works. And so to finally get it out there is exciting.

21:55Rich Eisen:That is pretty cool.

21:56Tony Hale:Well, congratulations on that, man. Thanks, man.

21:58Rich Eisen:Thank you very much. So the last few times you've been here, you've been cultivating Sketch, and now it's finally here, and you're here talking about it. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Congratulations on that. Again, it's available in theaters nationwide beginning Wednesday, August the 6th. So what else is going on in your world, Tony? What else is going on?

22:16Tony Hale:We just moved down south.

22:18Rich Eisen:Okay.

22:19Tony Hale:We moved to Alabama.

22:20Rich Eisen:Okay. Interesting for someone from Georgia. To be in Alabama, right? Yeah. All right.

22:26Tony Hale:And, you know, as you know, football is kind of a faith down there. So I may or may not have bought a book called Football for Dummies just to figure out the game.

22:40Tony Hale:So I feel some judgment in this room. No, we do not judge.

22:47Rich Eisen:Get out of here.

22:48Tony Hale:The more that we think we know, we don't know. I may or may not have watched a few YouTube videos explaining the game. Okay. There you go. But it's so great. I mean, we need to be close. Where the monsters come to life. Where the... Very interesting, right? Unique monsters. There you go. And, you know, my wife's family is an hour from Alabama. My parents are in Georgia. My sister's in North Carolina. So we're all in South. And for 30 years between New York and LA, we've been away from family. So once my daughter graduated, we decided to make the move.

23:14Rich Eisen:Awesome. Fantastic. And Toy Story 5 is in the works right now?

23:18Tony Hale:Toy Story 5 is in the works, yeah. And so Forky comes back? Yeah, and I'm actually going to send a little voice memo to Cage. Maybe I should do that now, and I'll send it to you. Let's do this now. Sure, do it. Let's do this.

23:29Rich Eisen:So right now, and by the way, I should say this. I do. Bring it over, sir. I should mention, you were kind enough to just offer this off camera. I will say this.

23:40Tony Hale:Don't ever underestimate my selflessness.

23:42Rich Eisen:So what you're going to do is, this is for Cage. Do you have a voice memo app? Do you have a voice memo app? Okay. Hold on a minute. Why are we iCloud syncing? All right. Here you go. Chris Brockman's phone. Okay, good. And it's Cage, right?

23:58Tony Hale:I will have you know he has a lovely mustard yellow phone case, which is very nice. What is that about? In case I lose it, I can find it. Yeah, it's actually a good idea. Oh, is that really the only reason, or do you like the color yellow, which is fine, too? I mean, I enjoy mustard, the condiment. Okay, great. Okay, then that's about it. Okay. All right, so this is Cage, right? Yeah. Hey, Cage. This is Porky from Toy Story. How's it going? Hey, I have heard you are the coolest kid, and I just wanted to say hello. All right, Cage. I hope you have a great week. Bye-bye. Phenomenal. Fantastic. So now, after he sees the movie or, like, the little shorts, you cannot tell him it's a human.

24:34Tony Hale:You have to say, hey, I met Forky. And then he's like, how in the heck did Forky say my name? Yes.

24:41Rich Eisen:That's great. You've come across many sporks in your life, right? Big spork house. You know what I mean? That's true. Yeah.

24:48Tony Hale:Let's break that down later. That's a big spore cap. I'm not Googling the rules of football, buddy. Oh, look at this guy. Listen, listen. Fair game, fair game. I apologize. I was about to say, this is a match for him coming out. It's your guest with three Emmy Awards. Thank you. My identity. I was about to say, ask me any question about football, and then I was like, no, don't do that. His identity wasn't and isn't plastic cutlery, sir. That's right. What have you learned so far about the game? I really genuinely will shame myself. No. No, no, no. Okay, so there's many things. I mean, okay, simple, I had to go down to like, we're talking like first downs and all this kind of stuff.

25:39Tony Hale:And there was a time when my naivete, I'd watch the game, and all I could think about was how is the camera not being hit by a ball?

25:48Rich Eisen:By the way, hold on a minute. Not crazy because there are those cameras that have it. That's what I'm saying. And the punters and Steadicam, they've hit wires. That has happened.

25:59Tony Hale:I've never seen that, but I don't know why it doesn't happen every single game. That's an excellent question. You know, because the shot I'm seeing is right in there. And it's like, why is this not a common occurrence?

26:10Rich Eisen:By the way, we had many moons ago, the actress Gillian Jacobs was on this program. She didn't understand why downs weren't called chances, that it should be second chance and five third chance.

26:28Tony Hale:Also, what a more positive spin on a word. You know what I mean? Like it's downs.

26:32Rich Eisen:It's more, hey, you've got a chance. You can achieve your dream of a first down.

26:37Tony Hale:Rather than like second down, man. You don't have many more. You're going down. That's right. You're not wrong. Yeah, thank you. That's also why do we always say, why are taking pictures, why are they so violent? Like take a picture, shoot a camera, capture a photo. Yes. That's true.

26:55Rich Eisen:Why are they so violent? I'm going to go here with this. Where do you stand on the word solid as a complementary adjective?

27:04Tony Hale:Okay. Tony, where do I go? Hey, solid. You're like, hey, I saw a sketch.

27:10Rich Eisen:That's a solid movie. That's a solid movie. Right? Like, you don't want to be called solid. I know I'm influencing the juror right here. Okay. No, yeah.

27:20Tony Hale:I would be curious where you go with that because I go with, like, it holds weight, meaning it's like it matched my expectation of rather than had holes in it my my thought is that there's better adjectives oh sure like the word i liked it or it was a really fine film it's a fine

27:39Rich Eisen:film yeah yeah so hold on a second you would want somebody see sketch you'd rather them call it a

27:44Tony Hale:solid movie than a fine film yeah that's true because fine sounds like yeah it's fine but i I mean, of course I'd like amazing thing that's ever hit the cinemas, but solid. I can hear what you're saying. It might sound a little passive, like, no, it's solid. That's what I'm saying. It's a fantastic movie.

28:02Rich Eisen:A hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not solid. It's fantastic. Yeah, yeah. It's rare. It's terrific.

28:09Tony Hale:Unless it's the way they say it. If they come up and go, oh, man, it is so solid. Then you're like, okay, I get it. But if someone's like, yeah, it's a solid movie, then you're like, oh, there's something behind that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These guys like solid. Yeah, because I just don't, I don't, like is strong. I don't think it's just a big negative like you think.

28:28Rich Eisen:Yeah, it is. I take it as that.

28:30Tony Hale:Where do you stand on driverless cars, Tony? Where do you stand on a driveway being called a driveway when you're not driving and parking? Hmm, never thought of that. George Carley used to say parkway is called a parkway. A parkway, yeah.

28:45Rich Eisen:But what was your question? A driverless car. Have you seen them? I'm not there yet. You're not, those haven't hit Alabama? No.

28:51Tony Hale:No. Also, it just hasn't hit my psyche. I can't, I can't. I don't have the trust. Just like I don't really have the trust of doing a bungee jump, thinking that thing's going to catch me. No. You know, it's like, I think all the technology is there. I know they're really safe. Yes. But I just, I'm not there with the trust. Okay. Yeah.

29:10Rich Eisen:Okay.

29:11Tony Hale:I like it. Even flying out of a plane, I'm not there that that parachute is going to come out. Oh, have you, have you really done that? Oh God, no. No, no, no, no, no. No chance, right now. No, God no, God no, no. Not a chance. No. Well, absolutely not. I mean, it's like the thing is you're attached to a guy who's professional, but who's to say his string doesn't work.

29:28Rich Eisen:Did you do all your own stunts in Arrested Development?

29:32Tony Hale:My many emasculated sidekick stunts that I've had throughout my career.

29:36Rich Eisen:Have you done all your own stunts, Tony?

29:39Tony Hale:No. You have not. There was a time when Buster Bluth went through a plate glass window. That was not me.

29:49Rich Eisen:and then um did they basically say like we we think you should be a stuntman or did somebody try to convince you to go through the play class window no i think i i think they said would you like a stuntman and i think i said yes before they even i did that as a kid so you will survive thank you i really you did i wouldn't i wouldn't use you as the avatar of success

30:10Tony Hale:do you do roller coasters uh i used to and the older i've gotten it's hard not to get to a narrative that something's going to go wrong. Oh my gosh. That's your default, huh? Yeah. However, I, this is what's great. I'm not a guy that's like, um, I don't like being scared. I don't like someone jumping at me, but damn, do I not like watching YouTube videos where people get scared?

30:30Rich Eisen:So it's very hypocritical. It sounds like you were telling another story of doing your own stunts or that you didn't, or am I wrong?

30:38Tony Hale:There was one where Buster also was on his hook and he falls through uh like a a roof and um i didn't do that one either how did they explain to you that you were going to wear a hook from now on i mean how do they explain there's so many things that had they had to explain i mean i've still i've said this so many times but i do remember going up to mitch and saying the creator and being like hey i think it'd be a good idea if buster was on dancing with the stars and he goes yeah i think i'm gonna have a seal bite off your hand and i was like no that's better or i'll never forget when they come up to me and they're like hey you got a love interest and I said who and they go Liza Minnelli and I was like this is getting better and better and better there had to have been a great moment between you and Liza when the cameras were not rolling like I mean she is she is so lovely took my wife and now to lunch told a story about her mom sang to us I mean she is just a gem I don't know if we've covered this

31:32Rich Eisen:track before in your multiple appearances here but we did you drove her didn't you not a month Oh, that's right. We did talk about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Over a month for a film I worked on. And that's the way that they came up with the concert. He is dead on. One of the nicest people you've ever met. And she gave me$1 ,000 as a driver at the end of the month as a gift in an envelope. And it was like, she calls everybody darling, which I love. Yeah, I was just about to say she calls everybody darling. That's right. And it was, she took me around. I'll never forget the one day. I took her to Elton John's Academy Award party after she was filming one day.

32:10Okay. That was one of the shiny moments. But the best was she said, let's drive around Beverly Hills. I'm going to show you all the houses of the famous people. It was one of the – if I had a GoPro back then and I could have just done this, she's like, I grew up here. This is where Bob Evans' house. This is where Clark Gable came over. Yes. It's amazing. She's so nice. Wow.

32:32Tony Hale:Everything was so special. Even how she sat in a chair. I don't know if you can get this on the camera. Sure we can. But like I, she, you know, we're all just listening to this. She sits in a chair like this. Yeah. I mean, like at any moment. With a capital L. Yeah. Like at any moment, she's about to break out with Cabaret. And I was like, bring it, honey. She went out, by the way, rode up front with me in the car. Did not ride in the back of the car with me.

32:55Rich Eisen:That's the way the concept of driverless cars came into being. Yeah, exactly. It was her idea. It all went back to Liza. The minute she sat up front with you, she goes, you know what would be better? If you know.

33:11Tony Hale:Oh, man. I have that image, though, of her going, Tony, can you get me a Diet Coke? And I was like, honey, I will get you whatever you want.

33:22Rich Eisen:Fantastic. Oh, my God. Speaking of awards, you know what pops into my... Thank God.

33:27Tony Hale:Back to my identity. No, no, no.

33:29Rich Eisen:Well, actually, what hops into my Instagram algorithm every now and then is the 2013 Emmy Awards. Oh, with Julia. With Julia Louis-Dreyfus wins for Best Actress in a Comedy. Yeah. And she's walking to the stage, but stops for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's waiting for you to come up with her. Yeah. And the bit that was done. Yeah. Where you're playing Gary Walsh, essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To her, Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Yeah. Was that, obviously this was planned, right?

34:01Tony Hale:No, like she called me that morning and she said, hey, I'm thinking about if I win, I want you to carry my purse with me. Yeah, there we are. I want you to carry my purse. And I remember thinking you are going to win and this is going to have to happen. Yes. And we talked about it a little bit, but then it was just, we just did it and just dove in and thank God I think it worked. Oh my God, I did it ever. I was so nervous. I was so nervous, but also I'm sure you've met her, but she is so kind and cool and it's very easy to just play with her and it was great yeah we're

34:34Rich Eisen:playing i think jason alexander's coming in later in the fall because he's got a book on seinfeld coming out which would mean she's the only one of the four of seinfeld that has not appeared on the

34:43Tony Hale:show and would be amazing oh man she's got her oh you and she's the coolest she's got so many great

34:48Rich Eisen:stories you're saying you know the the part where she's going through you know the people she's thanking and then you lean over and remind her about her family that was ad-libbed that's it

34:59Tony Hale:uh i think we had said like hey why don't i remind you your family she's like yeah but and also i have to give the credit too of of the direction of that because there was a side shot and they caught it right on the joke on the front right so it's like that kind of the magic of that moment was working thank god i was petrified but it was she always wanted to do a I don't know if you noticed in all the award shows, she always wanted to make it funny. She really challenged herself to do that. Well, I mean, it makes complete sense, you know, because of who she is.

35:31Rich Eisen:And my gosh, that comes up every now and then. And I watch it to the end every single time. I'm so glad I'm still in your world constantly. Tony Hale. I need to be on loop. Come on. No doubt about it. Has there ever been any conversation about Veep getting back together?

35:47Tony Hale:Oh, man, I would love it. I mean, I don't know if the end of the end of the show, you know, spoiler alert, but she dies. And so it's like many, many years later. I've been in prison because of her. And there's this gap in between that would be really fun to play with. Yes. I mean, I know that anytime they said yes, we'd all jump at the chance.

36:10Rich Eisen:Wouldn't it be? And then, of course, in this world, we can rewind it and bring her back to life. I mean, all my scenes would be in prison. Well, I mean, the number of times that you see something in real life that people then also do on social media, put the Veep credits at the end of. I see that all the time with the music.

36:28Tony Hale:Yeah, we had an episode years ago about where she accidentally tweeted something. And I was like, she's doing it on Twitter. And that's before this madness with Twitter and Trump and all that stuff. And we were like, I can't believe it. But now that's like every day.

36:46Rich Eisen:I was like, I was like, Cofevee before there was Cofevee, you know, like all those years ago. And so, yeah, that would be, I would, I'd jump at the chance of watching that sort of thing, too. I'm watching this right now. The best part about this, too, is that the purse is so small, and you're like pulling it way up here with both hands.

37:03Tony Hale:I know. Just getting a camera. Yeah. Making a camera. But, man, we had such, the thing is with her is, it was kind of like it just became a comic dance, you know, where you kind of trusted each other, and even little things like when she was getting ready for the day, Selena, I'd put on her bracelet and I'd put her jacket on. And we always tried to find physicality beyond the script. Like, how can we make this funny? And then, so it was always play time.

37:25Rich Eisen:And I imagine, is it one of those shows as well where you would just play with it, right? You would just start throwing out one line after another, after another, after another.

37:33Tony Hale:The script was pretty locked. We did have rehearsals where we could come up with bits. Right. But then once it was locked and we got on set, that's when the physicality of like, she's like, okay, if I drop my coat here, if I drop my purse here, I want you to sweep in and do that. Right. Then it was like, great. Like, that's just, that's when the fun kicks in.

37:48Rich Eisen:Who was the easiest to, the one who would crack up the most?

37:52Tony Hale:Me. Really? Me, but Julia, Julia laughed also a lot. And I remember one time I was laughing so hard. She says, Tony, you know, you're not watching the show. You're in the show. And I said, yeah, but it's a funny show.

38:06Rich Eisen:Funny show. Funny show. Sketch available in theaters nationwide beginning Wednesday, August 6th. Be one of the 100 % who says to Rotten Tomatoes, go see it. And Forky is in Toy Story 5. Any idea when that comes out? I think next summer. Okay. I think next summer. Well, then let's hope for another visit from you. Please. Maybe I can bring Julian with me. That would be wonderful. We'll send a car with a driver for that one. Send a car with a driver for that one. Awesome. Good to see you, brother. Good to see you, brother. Thanks, man. Always good to see you guys. Right back at you. At Mr. Tony Hale to follow this man on the socials.

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39:51Rich Eisen:What is going on with you, Jim Brockmeyer and Brett Musburger? This is my Musburger face. No, you can't put that to bed, Rich. You know why you can't put it to bed? Because he's a punk, that's why. Brent Musburger is a P-U-N-K punk. The man is a thief, okay? Brent Musburger is a thief. How so? Stole my line. What line was that? This is for all the Tostitos. Remember that? This is for all the Tostitos. Remember when he said that? Everybody in the business, no, it's not funny. Everybody in the business knows that was my line. But he went ahead and used, that's what I always yell when I climax inside of a woman.

40:29Or when I'm just, when I climax all by myself. Musburger knew that was my line. He used it anyway at the BCS title game. And ever since then, now I have to yell out, Ruffles have ridges. And it's not the same thing. So, verdict? What's the verdict of all that? What did you take from that? He's a punk. Musburger's a punk. That's right. Here is Brent Musburger. How are you, Brent? Hey, Rich. Rich, I'm great. Listen, you guys, you and the producers, you deserve, oh, man, a pat on the back. I'm so proud of you guys for trying to help resurrect little Jimmy Brickmeyer's career. We all know the problems.

41:08We all know the problems that he had in the past. But if anybody can help Brickmeyer, it's you, Rich.

41:15Rich Eisen:Yeah, well, he says that you stole all the Tostitos from him. Brent, is that true? Or what do you know from back in the day? I got paid. I got paid by a company to drop the name. I got free Tostitos for a week. What are you talking about? What's he talking about? You know, the man's delusional. We know he's got mental problems to break down, you know. It's really interesting because as we started B-Cin here in Las Vegas, and Brickmeyer was having trouble getting a job. So he called our executives. And, you know, I've got to be perfectly honest. Don't tell anybody this. But we always talk to prospective announcers just to get an idea.

42:01Do they really know anything about sports gambling? Or are they just pretending? And I've got to tell you, our general manager, he interviewed Brickmeyer and asked him about a three-team parlay. And our boy, Jimmy, he thought that that was two hookers with him in a Morristown hotel room.

42:25Tony Hale:I'm telling you, you know? You know, Jesus, we would have loved to help him out. Wow. But we just can't. I wish him the best. He's so delusional. And listen, let him go at it. We're all at Tostitos, baby.

42:41Rich Eisen:I mean, that's one of our greatest achievements. And then at one point, I think after that, we roped Costas in. We did. Right. To mediate. Yes. Between Brockmire and Musburger, the punk. P-U-N-K. Oh my God. The Morristown. That's, oh my God. I'm done. To use the Morristown, New Jersey. I was. Do you think he had someone write that stuff for him? For Brent? Like he had. Oh. Because he knew. We called him. We knew he was coming on. We had to set this up. Jim Brockmire. He's been calling you a punk. We need you to come on and respond. And he was all in on it. He was all in on it. Brent might have.

43:24Oh, Brent's smart enough. Maybe he just came up with it.

43:27Rich Eisen:For all the Tostitos, baby. Oh, my God. Okay. Fantastic. Good stuff right here on the program. Lenny in Panama City, Florida. What's up, Lenny? Hello. Yes, Lenny. Hi. Hey, can you hear me? We can, Lenny. All right, good. I just got all this cannabis bark out of my mouth so I could talk to you. Okay. Instead of the gummies. Okay. Good to know, Lenny. Hey, man, I got a bone to pick with you, Rich. Uh-oh. I did your wife. I mean, I did the Buccaneers win-loss thing with your wife. Okay. Good to clarify. Yeah. Well, she did not take any notes, and Chris can confirm this because he's the one that called her out on it.

44:21Rich Eisen:Is that right? She didn't take any notes, Chris? Were we up against it, Lenny? What was the situation there? I was doing the win-loss thing, and I told her that, you know, once again for the second year in a row that the Bucs were going to go undefeated and win the Super Bowl. Okay. Well, then I think if that happened, we don't need to play the win-loss game. You're saying 17 wins. We don't need to write it down. Oh, okay. Susie was totally unaware of it because she went on to the second game, and Chris is the one that pointed out that you need to write this down. This is great. She didn't. We just continued.

45:01Rich Eisen:Well, I appreciate you calling in to clarify, Lenny. I appreciate it. Well, thank you, because this has been bugging me, B, because a few weeks later there's a dude comes up and you told him that he was the first guy to do the Bucs. Oh, okay. All right. Now I got it. I see. We apologize. On behalf of everyone here and my entire family, we'll fix that. Apologies. Thank you. Thanks for the call, Lenny. Appreciate it. It's Lenny in Panama City, Florida. You can put the cannabis bark back in. Chew on bark. Chew on bark. There you go. This is what I want to hear from Travis Hunter. I need to hear a chip on his shoulder, and I need to hear him to say, I am going to do what Rich Eisen wants.

45:49Rich Eisen:I am going to play 100 snaps a game. I'm playing both sides of the football. I'm going to play meaningful minutes. I'm going to play meaningful snaps. I'm going to be great at it. I'm going to be offensive and defensive rookies of the year. I can do it. Anybody who says I can't do it, I am going to show them. You didn't say that exactly. But tell me if you don't hear at least the spirit of it. What's the hardest part of doing that that people don't know about? Just the work that you put in and when they try to criticize it, it's like, I'm already doing all this extra work. You're going to keep telling me I can't do the same thing that I've been doing and showing you.

46:26So it's just that a lot of people just keep downplaying this, but I'm going to just be quiet and just go to work.

46:30Tony Hale:But that doesn't annoy you when you keep hearing all the doubters at all? No, it actually makes me smile because they don't know what to say, so they're just going to keep hating. Oh, he's doing it. He's doing it. Okay. He's doing it. Okay. He's doing it.

46:42Rich Eisen:Duvall. I mean, let's go. Liam Cohen. Okay. Release the hunter. And let everyone become the hunted. Release him. Not a Christian Wilkins release. I mean, you know what I'm saying. Like the hounds. Oh, baby. Let's go. How amazing would that be? Jacksonville Jaguars become must-see television. We're flexing into them because you can't miss it. Yep. Because Travis Hunter's doing what he's doing. and Brian Thomas is doing what he's doing and Trevor Lawrence is doing what he's doing and Liam Cohen is doing what he's doing and our friends Joshua Hines Allen is doing what he's doing. You see what I'm saying?

47:22Rich Eisen:You're picking up what I'm putting down? Travis Hunter, baby, do it. I just wanted to say if Susie was listening right now, I don't believe she is listening. But she was listening. Solid is solid gold. That's what she said. That's her appearance. Opinion on solid. And Brockman has never sounded more like a mass hole than ribbing Tony right after he willingly tracked a total gift for Cage. That was nice. That was nice of him to do that. He offered. I didn't ask. He did offer. And we found out you have a, how long have you had this mustard phone case? You know, a few months. Yeah. You know, because I normally get black.

48:07But if you're looking for your phone in your house or something. It's tough to see. It's tough to find.

48:10Rich Eisen:Right. So I went with like a bright color. Do you need a Steelers logo for it? I don't. Because that's kind of what it looks like. Well, I was more worried that people would think I was a Laker fan. Yeah, we can get a Lakers logo for you and a matching flag for your car. I don't want either of those. Okay. Thank you. Stay by your phone, man. I may need you. That was great with Omar Khan today. Yes. Also want to thank Mr. Tony Hale for stopping by here. And Mark Slareth was dynamite, too. He was. You really made me work for what's more likely today. They were fun. They were good ones. Great stuff.

48:46Rich Eisen:We'll be back all next week right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Everybody have a great July summer weekend. Back to wrap this up in a moment on Roku.

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