Jacob Misiorowski All-Star Controversy

22:31And I signed on before there was even a script. I like the idea so much. Her name's Jennifer Caitlin Robinson. She wrote and directed this, and she just killed it, man, just killed it.

22:39Rich Eisen:So do all Jennifers in this have to have all three names? If you don't say them, then Sony gets incredibly upset, and I don't want to upset them. Freddie Prinze Jr. is here. Let's not upset people. I know what you did last summer is the new installment of that 1997 hit that is in theaters nationwide this Friday. I know what you did last summer. Check it out. And you love it, huh? You're liking what you're seeing? Yeah, you know, I've never seen my movies. I've only seen like two of them. And this was the third one. And I really, really liked it. I was so proud of it. I was so grateful to be a part of this process and get to kind of introduce this new cast, which is so good.

23:15Like, they're so much better than I was when I was their age. Come on. even though it's i'm telling you that i don't mind i'm almost 50 i don't care right uh but yeah they're just wonderful and i loved working with them and young people make you hungry and they inspire you and it just i i loved working on this movie i can't say enough good things about it so

23:32Rich Eisen:i have to ask what what other films of yours that you have actually seen what um okay i saw the original i know what you did about a year and a half ago i had never seen that get out of here i had never seen i saw it for my i do like a horror podcast and i was like well i can't talk about it if I haven't seen it. So yeah, so I finally sat down and watched it. So you're talking about that was pretty scary, which is the name of your podcast. Yeah, that's a little podcast that I do, yeah. So you had not watched the original, if you will, okay? I haven't seen She's All That. I haven't seen it. You have not seen She's All That?

24:04No, I haven't seen Summer Catch. I haven't seen any of those. No, I know how to end. I read the script. Yeah, but don't you want to watch it back and see what it looks like? I was there. I got a pretty good understanding of it, you know? I rather see a movie I'm not in that I don't know what's going to happen. And you know what I mean? It surprises me a little bit more.

24:23Rich Eisen:So I didn't watch Family Feud, Rich. We lost that, TJ. So, okay, so you saw the 1997 I Know What You Did Last Summer. The 2025 I Know What You Did Last Summer. And I've seen this tiny little independent movie I made. It was the first movie I made. It was called The House of Yes with Parker Posey. Okay. And that's it. Wow. And I only saw that because they made me go. It was at Sundance. And I didn't when I was really nervous. I was like, I don't want to see myself act. And they were like, no, you have to go. You have no choice. And so I went. Well, summer catch is the reason why we first met years ago.

24:57Rich Eisen:That's right, man. That's right. Because we met years ago at the All-Star Game in Seattle. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And I hit a grounder that dribbled about six feet. And I had to hustle out to first base. And then this was in the celebrity softball game. This was in the celebrity softball game. And that was a humiliating swing. but in my defense, I had never swung at a softball in my life. It was the first softball swing in your life. It was the first pitch I saw, and I was just like, swing as hard as you can. Do you remember who was pitching? I can't remember who it was, man. I know the bad guys had Goose Gossage on their team.

25:30We were the good guys, obviously. Of course, you understood. And I think they had Jenny Finch on their team, but it wasn't Jenny that pitched to me. I can't remember who. It was Meatloaf. It was Meatloaf. Meatloaf pitched to me, and I got a dribbler off the bat, And I ran it out. I ran it out. So you were safe? I was safe, yeah. I was safe.

25:49Rich Eisen:But it was not a strong swing. So did you go two for three off of Meatloaf? Because that wouldn't be bad. No. No. Rich. Because that ain't bad. No. You know what I mean? Meatloaf. Yeah, he was. Good old Meatloaf. Yeah, they pulled him after the second, I think, to get other pitchers in there. Not because he wasn't. Who got up? Kenny Mayne had a quick hook? Because I think he was the manager. Was he the manager? I think so, yeah. Because I was the sideline reporter for ESPN's coverage, the only way you could put it, the coverage of the celebrity softball game. I highly watched, highly anticipated celebrity softball.

26:24Rich Eisen:And the thing that I remember from that is Don Mattingly was one of the coaches as well. And, you know, that's my guy growing up. Yeah. Oh, that was my guy. No, Donnie Baseball was the man. Donnie Baseball. I've embarrassed myself multiple times in front of him. Nah, man, he's super nice and super cool. He wouldn't need a heating kick. No, it's just, right. You're like, no, I embarrassed myself. No, I totally. i wasn't there i take it i have i have done that okay so that's pretty cool like and that was because of summer catch right that was summer catch man we had a blast making that movie there's this little baseball movie that was trying to get made and i read the script and i really liked it and the director and i got along and then uh we just got to cast a bunch of people that you know some of which i'm still friendly with to the to this day jessica bill was in that jesse was was my love interest in that one she was amazing or jessica as she's called um but Jesse, that was back then.

27:13Yes. Super cool, awesome chick. Matt Lillard was in that. Wilmer Valderrama was in that. Christian Cain was in. We had a really fun, cool cast, man. Everybody, we were playing baseball and getting paid to do it, and we weren't professionals, so there was zero pressure on us. Right. It was the best.

27:27Rich Eisen:Did you have to, you know, take lessons or something? Oh, yeah. We trained. I had to learn how to pitch for like a month and a half before the movie started, and then I remember there was one day I had to throw 140-some-odd pitches in one day, and it's like spread out over the day. So your arm at the end of that is just dead. And the next day they go, hey, we missed some shots yesterday. We need you to throw again. I was like, it's not going to happen. Like my arm doesn't work. And they're like, all we need is the motion. I was like, the ball's going to fall out like Mr. Smithers on the Simpsons when he throws out the first pitch, man.

27:58And he won't show that part, I swear. So I threw it and it was a Smithers pitch. And thank God that didn't get in the movie. Just the good pitches did. But yeah, I thought my arm was going to fall off.

28:08Rich Eisen:Anybody that we might know who is coaching you up or that you were around? So long ago. I had to look up the names of these movies so I could be prepared today because I don't remember the names of them. Because you don't watch them back, man. I don't. And I don't read title pages either. I just open the script and just start reading. So I never know the name. What a way to go through it. I never know the names of the movies. That's so cool.

28:32I met a kid at the grocery store who was sacking up groceries and he knew everything about Summer Catch. And at first I was like, oh, the baseball. and my daughter's like it's called summer catch i was like yes so but he knew the number he knew my character's name he knew the dad's name fred ward great actor he passed on but great character yes yes used to be a club fighter before he was an actor man so he knows how to box too he was a great dude remo williams if you haven't seen it that was an awesome movie um but yeah tremors obviously but yeah she had to remind me the name of the movie and this dude knew everything about it like everything she was like dad you have to know the names of your movies but the big one was

29:06Rich Eisen:obviously uh the i know what you did last summer i know what you did and she's all that were the two big ones i know what you did open the door and gave me the opportunity for every other movie i got right so how did you get that one like walk me through the original i auditioned five times i was not the first choice and i thought i was going to get fired every single day for the first three to four weeks of that movie and then had this like realization where i was like well they'd pretty much have to reshoot the whole movie now if they fired me so i think i'm good two weeks left to production and i was very confident going to work the final two weeks but before that i thought i was going to get canned i was the least experienced of all those actors they were all child actors i had just started i had one movie under my belt they had 20 jobs under their belts they'd been doing it since they were four i had been doing it for eight months dude so i was it was nervous oh look at those cuties those kids see killing pretty people That's what every good horror movie is about.

30:03Rich Eisen:I mean, what's Ryan doing with your lady? Hey, man, they were in love, man. You got to just let it be. Okay. Understood. All right. And so you just look, what do you think of when you see this photograph, dude? I don't have brown hair anymore. Understood. I have a beard that's also gray. And yeah, my hip hurts. That's about like sitting like that in that position. now would be absolutely impossible for me to accomplish that is so funny yeah you need to help uh yes yes i do i mean so then all right so let's show another picture here this is from the this is from the premiere of i still know what you did last summer awesome hair frosted tips man yeah look at that you know it takes guts to rock hair like that back in the day nowadays everybody looks like that.

30:58But back then, nobody did that. And by the way, before you talk smack, I brought two girls to that premiere. That one? That one? So the hair wasn't that bad. It was cool for back then. It's so horrible to look at. As a full-fledged member currently of

31:15Rich Eisen:the Ball Brotherhood, I must ask though, what preparation was required to, you can't just stroll out of bed like this, right? No, no, no. I think we probably went to the hair shop that day. Shop? The hair shop? Yes. The hair shop, as we called it back then. The hair shop. And the hairstylist cut my hair and did it that day. And I didn't want it to go all the way down, so she just made it so that the tips were purple like that. Because I said Joker purple, I think, is what I told her. And that's what she gave me, man. That's what she gave me. Look at you. Two girls. He caught that one. TJ caught that one.

31:51Rich Eisen:Utah. That's right. Give him two. um so let and then then we'll recycle to uh the present day here she's all that 1999 so you've got you've gotten two um i know what you did last summer films under your belt yeah and she's all that what you probably got that off of the first movie off the first one yeah right the first the success of the first one opened the door for she's all that she's all that was the first movie i ever got offered that i didn't have to audition for and it was me and there's rachel she's still one of my best friends to this day we're making another movie together in november uh for the first time since she's all that um but yeah man that was i i i have such great memories of that movie man between meeting doulay who was at my wedding paul walker rest in peace we would talk jiu-jitsu all the time and cars i collect old japanese cars he liked cars too um and we bonded on that jody lynn o 'keefe who played my like mean snotty popular girlfriend or ex-girlfriend i guess in the movie like the whole cast i'm still friends with kevin pollack he played rachel's dad like he was a big fan of my father's from back in the day so that's how him and i bonded and we still work together on movies to this day we just did one like a year and a half two years ago together uh so yeah man just great memories great director rob iskov tons of fun to work with real safe environment man it was just awesome usher as well oh that's right usher was let's not forget little kim was in the movie and she would show up in a limousine with like 20 people that would all get out before her.

33:18And you could tell she just wanted to go solo. Like she wasn't about the entourage, but they were about her, right? Yes. And so she had like security everywhere, these huge dudes that were all protecting her. And I was in love with Lil' Kim. I thought she was the coolest chick ever. So I hung out with her a lot when we were making that movie and got to see her at the premiere. But I love Lil' Kim, man. But yeah, I remember the first day she pulled up in a limousine and I must've seen 12 dudes get out of the car before she did. I was like, yo, how do all these people feel like a clown car?

33:45Rich Eisen:What did it look like, too? And so you got any good Usher stories? Anything from that? No, I didn't really get to work with Usher, man. I just got to meet him and shake hands with him. And I didn't have a crush on him like I did Lil' Kim. Understood. But yeah, he was super nice, man. We just didn't get to hang out much. He played the DJ, came in for a day. I think he was touring. It was just nice enough to help us out that day. Freddie Prinze Jr. here on the Rich Eisen Show. Again, in advance of the new installment of I Know What You Did Last Summer in theaters nationwide this very Friday, Wrestling with Freddie.

34:15Yeah, man.

34:16Rich Eisen:Is a passion of yours. My secret passion, yeah. Clearly. TJ Jefferson has, along with O'Shea Jackson Jr., a no-contest wrestling podcast. That's all. I know O'Shea as well, man. He's a good dude. He is that. He should be coming here in a minute or two. I was about to say you might see him on the way out the door. He's a good guy, man. Because they're about to record their latest episode. What got you into wrestling? When I was a kid, my grandmother was from Puerto Rico. And in Puerto Rico, wrestling was still real. They believed everything. And so she would show me these matches on TV with Ric Flair and Andre the Giant and all these like old school matches that she would videotape over the years.

34:51And she took me to a match in Puerto Rico and they started building this cage around the ring. Nowadays they lower it, but this was low budget. So they're just building the cage around the ring. And I remember asking her, I said, oh, is this a steel cage match? And she said, no, this is just how it is in Puerto Rico. And I said, why? She goes, that cage is there to keep the fans out in case the wrong guy wins. And I was like, what? And then all of a sudden it started happening and like the bad guys would come out and the fans were throwing pennies at them and rocks and all that. And I was like, yo, grandma, he could really get hurt.

35:20She goes, yeah, they get hurt every time they wrestle here. And so to me, it was so real and awesome. And I got to watch Lucha Libre, which is the masked wrestlers, the luchadors. And it was so much fun and so cool. So that's what got me into it. And I started going to shows after that. My mom would I would drag my mom and make her take me. and then my godfather who's Bob Wall he was in all the Bruce Lee movies he would take me and all the wrestlers would nerd out on him because they were all Bruce Lee fans so I got like a lot of love from those wrestlers and then I eventually took a job and worked for WWF or E and was writing what the wrestlers were going to say and became like an acting coach no kidding I swear to God like I had stopped acting and was just bored and took this weird job and all of a sudden was giving acting notes to like seven foot dudes who would like come back from doing their their monologue They called it a promo, but it's just a monologue, a speech.

36:09They'd come back and be like, did I do a good job? And I'm like, yeah, bro. Way to go. Sure, big show. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, man, it was a blast, and I still love it to this day. My kid's watching now, so we watch together and just have fun.

36:25Rich Eisen:Whose material did you provide that you were the most proud of that you got? Okay, that was a great day. There was this dude named Jeff Hardy, and everybody really believed in him, but he had never gotten a real shot at the world title. And I was responsible for writing that storyline. And I directed some of them too, but mainly wrote all the dialogue and the story that kind of took him to winning his first world championship. And that was an amazing moment. Well, it was cool. Fans really dug it, man. Fans dug it. Yeah. Yeah. The guy behind you is an encyclopedia. Yeah, he's got my back right now.

36:57I know he does. Wrestling nerds take care of one another.

37:02Rich Eisen:Seth Rollins is going to sit in this chair on Wednesday and Thursday. He's hosting the show. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, nice, dude. He's going to do that. He's one of the best in the world right now. He is indeed. Hopefully he's as healthy as it can be right now. Yeah, that knee, man. It didn't look good. It did not look that great. No. I guess he's still coming here. No, he's a tough son of a gun. He'll be here for sure. I Know What You Did Last Summer is a new installment in theaters nationwide this Friday. Here's the very important bar that needs to be met here is if nobody in the cast finds their future wife It can't be as good of a movie.

37:36Rich Eisen:I totally agree. I mean, that's science. Am I right or am I right? It's scientific. Yeah, it's scientific. You know what I mean? But be friends first. That's my advice. Be friends first. Okay. Then get married. Well, I was friends with my wife 22 years later. We still are. Yeah, that's about the same time for us. I was friends with her for three years. It's almost the exact same amount of time Saturday night. Yeah, but not because I wanted to be. It wasn't the richest choice. You were just working on her for three years, working on her. That's one way to put it. She hit him with the Heisman. Laying down bait, seeing how she takes it.

38:13Rich Eisen:Yes, TJ, I won the Heisman Trophy three years in a row. Three years in a row. 1997, 98, and 99 are all trophies that they can't take away from me. That's right. So that's what you were just friends for three years? We were friends for a couple years first, and then we went out to dinner one night, and there were supposed to be three of us. It ended up just being her and I, and it just sort of organically turned into a date. All of a sudden, I was like, yo, she's hot. And then she was kind of looking at me, and I was like, I never thought that before. This was after doing the movie? Yeah, well after doing the movie.

38:47Really? Yeah, and then we had a little kiss by the beach. Oh.

38:50Rich Eisen:So now I'm putting it all together from this. We don't usually talk personal life, but you are still married to Sarah Michelle Gellar, which is great. and so thus in between meeting her and then dating her that's where the two ladies that you brought to the premiere of the sequel they better have been

39:15Rich Eisen:I'm piecing it all together the timeline and how it all works out very happy ending again whoever is in this film you know let's let's a lot of pressure it's a lot of connection the premiere is tonight so i'll see if i can't get some sparks going with some of the cats you know what i mean play a little cupid yeah i'll bring a bow and arrow and everything that's right then we'll know what you did you know this summer that's right see what i did i can't i can't turn it off i'm sorry uh wrestling with freddie uh is uh a very popular podcast you get it wherever you get your podcast and then that was pretty scary freddy prince jr and john lee brody that's correct yeah he's like people some people know wrestling like everything about it that's him with horror movies he's like no kidding you literally like open the encyclopedia and it's him okay so what would he say outside of your film is his favorite uh probably horror movie oh wow uh probably slumber party massacre part two which is a b movie and the killer uses an electric guitar with a drill on the end of it to kill people.

40:23That's one of his favorites, and it's one of those that's so bad. It's like a bulldog so ugly it's cute. It's one of those movies that's so bad it's great. And we have a lot of fun watching that kind of stuff.

40:32Rich Eisen:Okay, very good. So it's not just movies that we've all seen. No, he tries to find, he kind of manages our library of Congress there, so to speak, and it's every horror movie in the world. So then what, before I let you go, what do you think makes for a perfect horror movie? Characters you care about and three to four great set pieces where like if a set piece would be like jaws taking down the girl in the beginning of the movie right jaws getting the captain sorry for spoiling jaws by the way so uh so little things like that movies with great set pieces and characters that you're willing to follow and that you can relate to that's the two tricks because you don't want them to get got you don't want to get your seat it's why when sarah's character died in the first one people went bananas because she gave hope like like a horror movie had never given hope before and this character her name was helen shivers and she's a coward and she's ruled by cowardice more than shaggy and scooby ever were like she doesn't she can't make a good decision and finally she's running away and falls out this window great stunt work by the way and the director did a great job shooting this and so did the dp and the stunt coordinator everyone does an awesome job and she sees the fireworks and she's going to make it to the parade and she's going to be safe and she's running running running and there's the fisherman and instead of running more she says you know what i'm gonna fight and the whole crowd's like yes finally buffy's gonna kick ass and her reward is death and the whole crowd is just like oh my god and they're just vomiting and they can't deal with it because it's it's too real for a man that's what makes horror movies great are scenes like that vomiting yeah exactly it's important emotion emotional i mean you know also but what what if you see it coming, right?

42:12Rich Eisen:Yeah, exactly. Because the number of times that I will watch a horror movie, I'm like, really? Like, you don't see this coming? Yeah, it's the classic, don't go in that room. Yeah, right, yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like, let's not do that. All right, well, I know what you did last summer. Again, the new installment available in theaters nationwide. I don't know if you have to run out, but I've just been told O'Shea just here. Is he here? I love O'Shea. Do you mind if we just stand in a second chair and we just chit-chat? I have a sec, yeah, I have a little bit of time. I have to go to the, get ready for the premiere and all that good stuff.

42:38Rich Eisen:We got a little bit of time. Another couple minutes? Is that fine? I don't mean to put you on the spot. No, I love O'Shea. Okay, great. Terrific. If you don't mind, I just threw that one out there. Yeah, we'll make it work. We're going to make it work. O 'Reilly Auto Parts can help take the guesswork out of your vehicle's check engine, ABS, or maintenance light with O 'Reilly Veriscan. The service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by ASE certified master technicians. Ask for O 'Reilly Veriscan today. Rich Eisen here for Gusto. After all these years talking to athletes, coaches, entertainers, and people at the top of what they do, one thing is pretty clear.

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44:19Rich Eisen:One thing I love about you, Steve, is when you host family feud you get you you realize that there's a moment that is happening and you make a meal out of it like you as a host no we got to stop here and we have to acknowledge just how insane this moment just is right now and one of my favorite ones just like that involves stefan diggs of the minnesota vikings when he was playing for the fast money and it was leave it blank and he said in and the whole place went absolutely nuts and you just stepped away yeah and just made an absolute five-horse meal out of that because we have to drink this moment yeah see sir i don't see stefan diggs look man if you got your helmet on your number we all know who you are once he take the helmet off.

45:13We got to kind of figure who that is. So he didn't have his helmet on. I wanted him to be YouTube famous for the rest of his life. Because what's great, man, are these, you know, we do a lot of NFL, NBA shows on Family Feud for celebrity. It's great, man, when regular people discover that celebrities don't know nothing. They don't. You think because a person is famous, they know more. They actually know less. They know less than anybody else because they're exposed to less. Rich people don't know how much milk costs. You get out of touch, man. And when they come on Celebrity Family Feud, you find out how out of touch they are.

45:56They don't know anything, man. Like one of the questions for the NFL team was, And we were asking a guy running back for the Packers. Can't think of his name. But the question was, complete the sentence. Strip. And you know, like strip mall. Strip poker. Strip sack. Strip sack. I said, name, complete the word strip. He said, purr.

46:26Strip purr. I went, hold on, man. I quit breathing. How is that your point of reference to complete the word strip? Per. P-E-R. That was it. I was done. That was one of my great moments.

46:44Rich Eisen:And again, you just walk away, and you realize it in the moment. Like, okay, this is it, and I'm going to let this thing go. Hey, after the show, he asked me, he said, Steve, is there any way we can edit that out? I said, sir, we're not editing you that out. Matter of fact, we're going to embellish you. You're going to say purr so loud. Purr. Fun stuff back in the day with Steve Harvey. Back here on the Rich Eisen Show. We're in the Roku Channel Studios right now. Look who's joined. Freddie Prinze Jr. is O'Shea Jackson Jr. That's right. Juniors for everybody. Juniors for everybody. That's right.

47:24Rich Eisen:Our junior cup is runneth over. That's right. Taking the seats over. And one of the hosts of No Contest Wrestling. The other one is in the corner with T.J. Jefferson, O'Shea Jackson Jr. and the host of Wrestling with Freddie. We already talked. We're going to do each other's podcasts. Oh, great. Home and home. We're going to do the podcast thing. You can do home and home. That's right. Yeah, man. Okay. Rubbing elbows. Well, I've known him for a while. We've known each other a little bit outside of this, too. Is that right? Yeah, we've hosted a few radio shows together. Oh, is that right? Yeah, back in the day we did.

47:56Rich Eisen:Are we allowed to even say that? I'm going to say Mason and Ireland. Five minutes to go on the show, and we figured to leave Freddie Prinze Jr. here, if he was so kind, and he is, and O'Shea Jackson Jr. here as well. I brought you some gifts, man. What did you bring? Well, I've got to give one to Freddie, but I know, you know, here's an Ice Cube bobblehead, Ice Cube bobblehead night at Dodger Stadium. And, Rich, I know how much you loved that World Series. So I just wanted to make sure that you had one for you. This looks tremendous. And I do have one for my Boston Red Sox. I'll take it. And of course, my New York Met and my Dodger fan right there.

48:31Get out of here with us. That's right. Fifth inning, everybody. Fifth inning. Today is a good day.

48:37Rich Eisen:Have you ever played in one of those celebrity Dodgers games, too? You know, they changed it years ago from baseball to softball. And I begged them to change it back to baseball. That was one of the unique things. And they refused to do it. And so I told you about my softball experience, and I'm not very good at it. So, no. When they change it back to baseball, call me. So basically, when it comes to celebrity games, you're a purist. A purist, yeah, absolutely. Well, it used to be that, and they changed it. Why? To make it easier? Honestly, it's made it harder for me. So I'm not striking out. I'm just glad that you stuck around.

49:09Rich Eisen:I got my juniors here, my podcasters, my wrestling podcasters right here. It's tough being a junior, and we both made it. It's tough. It's rough, man. It's like you're a statue built to honor that which walked before you. and you don't even have a name a lot of times. It'll just be called Junior or June or Junie or Junebug. I can't even, if it's too sunny, they call me my dad. If I'm out there like this, frowning throughout the day, they're just, you know, I've taken so many pictures with people and they think that I'm him. They'll find out in the car, but at the time, I'm going to take a picture.

49:40They'll find out in the car. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, man. Okay. That's right, man. I'm aging great. Don't worry about it. You are.

49:53Rich Eisen:You certainly are. That'll be great. So tonight, I know what you did last summer, which is available in theaters tomorrow. You've got the premiere tonight, huh? Yes, sir. It premieres tonight. Red carpet, everything like that. All the fancy stuff that makes me super nervous and uncomfortable. Come on. Yeah, but you just kind of astral project yourself to somewhere comfortable like Hawaii and then just walk your way through. Okay, very good. Yeah. And just the one date tonight. Yeah, just the one. Trying to keep that date. yeah fantastic and then and the hair looks perfect oh thanks man no purple tips thank you for coming on here i really appreciate you you staying here and uh osha you have to stay because you have to absolutely i'm an employee you got working no parking space yet i can uh can't help but bring that up we're working we're working on it okay i got you oh uber well you know what you're here and i appreciate that uh congrats on on the movie and thanks for coming down.

50:48Rich Eisen:I really appreciate it. Everyone again, check out, I know what you did last summer. This Friday, back to wrap it up with O'Shea Jackson Jr. Coming up.

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