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25:29Rich Eisen:Good to have Tanner in Iowa here on the Rich Eisen Show. And Matthew Berry, the creator of FantasyLife.com and the Fantasy Football Happy Hour that can be seen live on YouTube at noon every day. and then on Peacock at 5 p.m. Eastern every day here on the Rich Eyes Show. It is great to see you, Matthew Berry. Just real quick, just starting off a macro here. When do you choose a quarterback? When do you do it? Obviously, it depends on your league settings. You're doing it earlier if you're in a super flex league versus a one quarterback league. I think third or fourth round this year, if one of four players is available, I want one of the elite guys.

26:07I want whether Lamar or Josh Allen or Jaden Daniels or Jalen Hurts, those four guys. If I don't get one of those four guys, like I'm in on either basically, Rich, this year I want to be one of the first guys in my league to draft a quarterback, one of those four guys. I want to be one of the last guys in my league to draft a quarterback. Again, this is assuming you're in a one quarterback league, not a two QB or super flex league. I love those guys in the middle ranges. I love, love Joe Burrow, proud fantasy life investor Joe Burrow. Nice. I do think he has a big year. But I just think those pocket passers that don't get yards with their legs as well as their arms, there's just a lot of them.

26:41And so I just think the value that you can get later in drafts. I mentioned Caleb Williams in the last segment there about how bullish I am on him. I think Justin Fields has a big year fantasy-wise this year. So I think there are guys you can get. I think Dak Prescott has a monster year this year. Again, as you talk about pocket passers going outside the top ten. I'm big on Trevor Lawrence I think the Jaguars offense is going to be as a late round flyer him and Drake May I think those are guys that are really interesting late so basically I want to be one of the first guys in my league to get a quarterback or one of the last because I don't think there's a huge differentiation once you get past the top four from between five and quarterback 11

27:24Rich Eisen:You think you could win a championship with Caleb, Drake May, Dak Prescott because that's whenever I hold you know uh braveheart style and i start screaming in my head gotta take somebody quarterback early because i don't want to be struggling in my fantasy league week nine week 10 with those you know 14 15 16 point efforts and somebody else is going all bonanza on me with their quarterback you know i i start thinking to myself can i hold ninth tenth round for one of those guys Do you think you can win a championship with some of those folks that you mentioned? Obviously, some of the argument there is that by waiting on a quarterback, you're winning positions at other spots, right?

28:10So you have an advantage on a weekly basis at running back, at tight end, at wide receiver because you have waited on quarterback, which that's part of the calculation and waiting on a quarterback there. And do we think Dak Prescott's going to be better than Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen? We don't. but this is a guy that was a top five fantasy quarterback two years ago. This is somebody that is, they're going to throw. I don't think they're going to be able to run. Right. And I, I think, and I heard you guys before I came on, you're talking about Micah, like that defense is going to be worse this year regardless, but especially if Micah holds out, so they're not going to be able to run and they're not going to play nearly as elite defense.

28:46And so they're going to have to throw a ton. The addition of George Pickens, who is as good a, you know, jump ball, 50, 50 ball wide receiver in the NFL. and obviously runs a ton of deep routes. Dak Prescott, one of the best, most accurate deep ball throwers in the NFL. So yes on Dak. I think Dak has a big fantasy year if he can stay healthy. You mentioned Caleb Williams. Look, I think there's a reason why Caleb Williams was drafted as high as he was. And part of why Ben Johnson was brought in was like, I hate to fix Ben Johnson. I did this. I wrote a column on NBCSports.com, wrote a world.com called My 100 Facts.

29:24you need to know before you draft. And one of the facts that I gave is that last year, when he was not pressured, Caleb Williams had the third best touchdown interception rate in the NFL among qualified quarterbacks. In essence, basically, when you gave Caleb Williams time to throw, he was actually pretty good. And we know how good he is off schedule when he has to create something. The issue with Caleb Williams is he held the ball too long. The offense was a mess last year. We get all that. But you think about what Ben Johnson did with Jared Goff in Detroit. Built up the offensive line, gave him time to throw, gave him time to throw in rhythm.

30:03And obviously, Caleb is a very different quarterback than Jared Goff. But like I said, I don't think a team improved their offensive line more than the Bears this offseason. Caleb very quietly gives you rushing production. Averaged over 30 rushing yards a game last year. And so, yeah, I'm in on Caleb Williams this year as a fantasy force. I think they've got a lot of weapons. They're going to give them time. They're another team that I don't think is going to be able to run that effectively. So, and I'm a believer in Ben Johnson's offense.

30:31Rich Eisen:And I'm going to go a little granular here, Matthew, because in the drafts that I've already been part of and the mock drafts that I'm actually spending a few minutes doing, you see the same grouping of players right around the same, you know, area of a draft. and it just seems like Tank Bigsby and Travis Etienne show up right there, and it's like a coin flip, like the algorithm's telling you your choice. And I see that, and I think to myself, Liam Cohen's a guy that had Bucky Irving in his midst last year. So somebody is potentially going to be anointed in a significant fantasy way. Do you have an opinion on this, Matthew?

31:14Rich Eisen:I do. so I prefer ETN to Bigsby but I agree with you like it's a little bit of a coin flip like we don't know Bigsby was running with the ones in practice then ETN gets the run with the ones in the pregame I'm sorry in the preseason games we like Bayshel Tootin as well the rookie there who showed a lot of explosiveness in college so somebody from the Jaguars is going to emerge as a as an elite fantasy option and we're just so I want one piece of that back uh backfield so i've been taking etn or sometimes i have two and i don't have a lot of bigsby this year uh but i do think that somebody in that backfield is going to be fantasy productive and i'm with you rich on the overall premise here is that this is going to be a very fantasy friendly offense i think the defense is going to be bad liam cohen last year you think about what he did with baker mayfield how good that offense was in terms of fantasy points that they produced across the board i brian thomas jr we know he's a superstar i think Travis Hunter has a monster year.

32:13I think he has a monster year. As deep sleepers, I like Brenton Strange. They're tight end. I like Parker Washington and deep leagues and deep PPR leagues. And like I said, Trevor Lawrence. I think Trevor Lawrence is going to have a very good fantasy year. Again, that's a guy that gets you 20 to 30 rushing yards. You don't really believe it. You know, he's going as like QB 18. And I think he's got top 12-ish potential this year because he's been throwing so much.

32:37Rich Eisen:Matthew Berry here on the Rich Eyes and Showing in FantasyLife.com. Fantasy Football Happy Hour on Peacock and YouTube and so much more here on the Rich Eisen Show. The rookie I've got to get. Who's the rookie I've got to get? I know you just mentioned Hunter, I guess. Is he that guy? And if not, him, who? Yeah, I mean, obviously we love Travis Hunter. I mean, my ride or die this year is Amari Hampton, the running back for the Chargers, right? He is my ride or die. I'm as a top... When I announced him as my ride or die, he was barely going around in the top 50. I'm as a top 30 overall player. I'm as a top 13 running back.

33:10I think He's a borderline RB1. We know Harbaugh likes to run the ball, but he also likes to run when he gets in close. Last year, Chargers top five in the NFL in terms of most rushing attempts inside the five-yard line. Najee Harris just activated. I guess we'll see what we get out of Najee, but he's on a one-year prove-it deal versus Hampton, who has used first-round draft capital on Hampton. He's already pro-ready in terms of pass protection. He's a great pass catcher. If you listen to any of the post-draft press conferences from the Chargers coaching staff and general managers, they talk about what a complete running back he is.

33:46So I think you'll see them use Hampton in the passing game a lot more than Greg Roman offenses have previously.

33:54Rich Eisen:And the prevailing wisdom that appears to be getting stronger and stronger with every draft that I'm in right now, Matthew, is that Tyler Warren's this year is Brock Bowers. Yes? No? What do you got? Oh, for sure. I mean, look, Brock Bowers had a magical year last year, so that's a really high bar to say Tyler Warren should get to that level. But I am a tight end nine. The last three tight end, rookie tight ends, that were drafted inside the top 15, that were drafted inside the first round, all saw at least 90 targets their first year. And you think about this Colts offense with Daniel Jones now under center.

34:32Like, he doesn't have a big arm. It's kind of a noodle arm. He's going to be a dink and dunker. And so Tyler Warren, just in the middle of the field, is just going to get a ton of targets. He's a great blocker. He's not coming off the field. He's going to play every snap. I mean, you just sort of look at the utilization. If you go to FantasyLife.com, we have a thing called the Utilization Report, where we have a guy, Dwayne McFarlane, who's unbelievable, watches every single snap of every single game and shows you about the utilization. And so his route participation, his snaps that he played, it's all available for free on fantasylife.com, just tells you that this guy is never coming off the field.

35:06He's also rich, really athletic. And so because they're going with Jones and not Richardson, don't be surprised if Tyler Warren gets a handful of tush-push-type touchdowns

35:17Rich Eisen:when the cold's getting close. Okay. Okay. Wow. Now that's a breadcrumb. That's a loaf. Breaking. Really? I think Tyler Warren has a monster here So Tyler Warren vulturing Jonathan Taylor is in the ether Yes sir Can you imagine Something like that happens Oh my word Rookie wide receiver Where are you in Tet McMillan Or any of the second rounders Third rounder Matthew Golden is somebody That gets thrown around The Packers man Not to mix sports Remember the Tampa Bay Rays of the Evan Longoria years? Like there was Longoria, you knew to play him, but everyone else is just like, why would I have a Tampa Bay Ray in my fantasy rotisserie, if you will, lineup?

36:06Rich Eisen:Because you never know. The Packers wide receivers, you have no earthly idea whose week it could be, right? Yeah, it's a little bit, although I do think Jordan Love being healthy this year is a help. And the fact that he used a first-round pick on Golden, because some of their guys are, you know, obviously Christian Watson, but like jane reed's already banged up as well and so i do think golden is is a special player i like him a lot we've talked about uh travis hunter i think tmack uh tedaroa mcmillan and carolina it's kind of a big year uh as well but if you want a rookie wide receiver that you didn't mention yes sir uh a mecca abuka in tampa bay yes um one of the one of if not the most pro ready wide receiver to come out uh unbelievable player and then you think about this is a team under Liam Cohen last year, but it's the same offensive coaching philosophy, same basic playbook here.

36:56They were like top three in the NFL in wide receiver fantasy points last year. Right? And so we know Chris Godwin is going to miss at least a handful of games. Jalen Lillian is going to miss most of at least half the season, if not more. And so Emeka Abuka, there's a scenario where he's the number one wide receiver for Baker Mayfield because, you know, we love Mike Evans here, and I think he's a value this year in drafts, but Mike Evans missed a month last year with hamstring injuries. Hamstrings are something that seemed to come up with Evans a decent amount. There's a scenario where there will be some points this year where Vuka is the number one wide receiver for Baker, but right now he's the number two, and I think that's quietly one of the best offenses in football.

37:37It doesn't get talked about as an elite offense, but it truly is in Tampa.

37:41Rich Eisen:And closer to home for you, the Washington running back room. What do we do here? What do we do here? Ja 'Cory, Krosky, Merritt, Bill. Bill, you know, obviously, you know, the buzziest name out there. I got to give a shout out to Conor Rogers. Conor Rogers is my co-host on Fantasy People Happy Hour, which we do. It's also available as a podcast, but we do it, as you mentioned, live at noon on YouTube every day. And it's available on demand there and Peacock at five o 'clock and on demand on Peacock. So Conor Rogers is a draft expert. Grinds the tape like nobody's business. And at the NFL draft, like we were doing our recap of the NFL draft.

38:19And Connor mentioned the fact that in the pre-draft process, like he was ranking all the players before they got drafted to the NFL players. You can look this up on NBCSports.com. He had Ja 'Cory Krosky Merrick ranked higher than R.J. Harvey. And so when the commanders got him in the seventh round, he was like, man, oh, man, did Washington just get a steal? And everyone's like, who the hell is Ja 'Cory Krosky Merrick? and so I got to give a shout out to my guy Conor Rogers who basically was like it was a weird eligibility issue which is why he didn't play his last year in college basically but like if they if people had seen this kid play they would have seen the intangibles that obviously Adam Peters identified and so look Austin Eckler is still there and I think you'll see a little bit of Chris Rodriguez but I think he's a borderline top 30 running back on what should be one of the better

39:04Rich Eisen:offenses in the NFL all right what have I what have I not asked you about I'll give you the floor brother before i let you go on your day well you haven't uh you haven't asked me uh you haven't asked me sort of at the at the if you want to talk about the top of the draft you want to talk about some late round sleepers how about both i mean you know ask me anything i've been i've been talking about this stuff for three months there's literally no question you can ask me i know but i don't want to i don't want to keep on asking you something that that that that's why i want to give you the floor you know what i mean like what do you what it's your it's your fantasy world Well, we're just rent paying right now, Matthew, so go for it.

39:40I'll say this. We're talking about sort of my ride or die, right? I do my ride or die every single year.

39:50Rich Eisen:Yes, sir. And so one of the guys that was the finalist for my ride or die, Amari and Hampton, of course, ended up doing it, was Nico Collins. Over the past two seasons, Nico Collins is third in fantasy points per target. and so nico collins is somebody i i'm he made my love list i have it i have it uh wide receiver six i'm sorry wide receiver five so i'm significantly higher nico collins than sort of consensus out here same sort of argument the i don't think the texans are gonna be able to run the ball i don't think they want to run the ball it's one of the reasons they made the change at the offensive coordinator position is because they actually ran too much last year and they weren't super effective at it and so i think they're gonna be more past happy i think stroud will be better this year as well.

40:33And so no Tank Dell, no Stefan Diggs. They got the two rookies and they added Christian Kirk. But really, Nico Collins is the alpha. And my argument on Nico Collins is that he is one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, just on pure talent. He's an alpha wide receiver one, the same way that CeeDee Lamb or Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase are. I'm not saying he's as good as Jamar Chase, but he's right there with Malik neighbors as well. But he's not talked about in the same breath as some of those guys, as some of those elite guys and he really is and so just he's dealt with injuries the last two years but the Texans scheme ways to get him the ball um and so I think Nico Collins there's within the range of outcomes at the end of this year we're talking about number one wide receiver in fantasy Nico Collins that is within the range of outcomes if he can stay healthy because he is that kind of guy and then top of the draft it is Jamar Chase 100 I have Chase at one I have Bajon up there Justin Jefferson as well I know there are people that are concerned about J.J.

41:32McCarthy. And my argument here, Rich, very simply, is two words. Nick Mullins. Justin Jefferson had four games with Nick Mullins as a starting quarterback and averaged over 22 fantasy points per game. When you can produce with Nick Mullins, you can produce with anyone. All due respect to Mr. Mullins. I'm just saying, like, J.J. McCarthy is going to be just fine. I know you're a Michigan guy, Rich, so I know you're team McCarthy here. but it's outrageous that people are like, once again, every year they sleep on, they're like, Justin Jefferson, bad quarterback. We had the same argument last year where people thought it was crazy for having Jefferson as a top four overall player.

42:07And they're like, Sam Darnold, what are you gonna do with, and like, he produced with Nick Mullins. And of course, Sam Darnold was great and Jefferson had another monster year. Like, he's Justin Jefferson. People are overthinking this.

42:19Rich Eisen:I admit probably so. And then guillotine leagues are everywhere right now. We're in Vinny Pasquantino's right now, Matthew. Yeah, 100%. So guillotineleagues.com, it's a brand that I bought. Go check it out. It's the most fun way. It's a weekly elimination format, and I absolutely love it. We think we have the best version of it. guillotineleagues.com. Very simply, you have a league. You draft a team like normal. End of the week, the team with the lowest score, you start your lineup right like normal. End of the week, the team with the lowest score in the league gets cut, killed. Their season's over.

42:52They're done. And then you keep repeating that until only one team remains. So it is a sweat like you've never had before because, you know, one guy disappoints. He got another guy in by somebody leaves the game early with injury. And you're sitting there going in Monday Night Football going like if Josh Jacobs doesn't score a touchdown tonight, I'm dead. So it is the most intense sweat. And here's the other twist, Rich, that I'll tell you about, which is that when that team gets cut, and eliminated, all the players on that team go into the free agent pool. So now, you know, every team has the first round pick.

43:31They have a second round pick. They have a star quarterback. So it's like week six and Saquon Barkley and CeeDee Lamb are on the waiver wire. Like it gets crazy. It's amazing. And you have$1 ,000 of fab budget of fake money to bid throughout the year. And as the teams get smaller, again, you can start with however many you start. and then when you get down to a five team league a four team league at one point and so everyone's got these superstar teams and it becomes really crazy because you're sitting there like oh should I pick up my homes off the waiver wire or roll with Josh Allen

44:06Rich Eisen:that's awesome Matthew what a great fun way to go about your fantasy year it is so fun the Rich Eisen show you guys should do a league I saw TJ this summer and I was telling TJ about it. Fanatics Fest. Yeah, Fanatics Fest. I was talking with TJ and O'Shea, right? And you guys were like, I want in. So you guys should do this. I'll do it. If the Rich Eisen show does a guillotine lead, I will join the lead. Okay. But now we've got to do another one. It's a new post-show meeting. Wow. A sixth fantasy. Matthew, thanks for that. The one thing I'll say here, Rich, before you go, is the best thing about guillotineleagues.com is that you don't have to start at the season.

44:51As long as you have one more team in the league than weeks left in the season, you can have a draft whenever you want. With five weeks left in the season, you can do a six-team draft. You just need one more team than weeks left in the season. So we can start it in week three or whatever.

45:07Rich Eisen:We'll have a post-show meeting. We'll figure it out and we'll reach out to you. Fantasylife.com, Fantasy Football Happy Hour on Peacock and YouTube. Matthew, give Jack Collinsworth his dressing room back. this is getting awkward. I will. He's standing outside awkwardly. Yeah, and in his skivvies, it's really awkward. Thanks for the time, Matthew. You'll be well. Get into the Hyundai Getaway Sales Event and get away with a deal so right, it almost feels wrong. Right now, you can get great deals on our most popular models, including our adventure-ready SUVs like the Hyundai Santa Fe or Santa Fe Hybrid and the Tucson or Tucson Hybrid.

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46:21Rich Eisen:Loans originated by SoFi Bank N.A. Member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891. Fast funds. Terms apply at SoFi.com slash debt play. I believe you are a fantasy football player. Is that a true story, Jody Foster? I am. I did not play last year because of the present administration was, you know, I had to be on the top of that. And you can't get all those alerts all at once. It was just too much for me. Too many badges on your phone. Yes, exactly. Too many alerts on your phone. I had to choose. I don't know. I think next year, I think this year I'm going to choose fantasy for sure. Well, I mean, it's an escape though, right?

46:57Rich Eisen:I mean, when you say— I would not call it an escape. I would call it a, you know, a hyper-focused art form. Interesting. Yeah. Fantasy football is a hyper-focused... If you're going to do it, you want to win. Okay. Have you been so fortunate to win a fantasy league? Who are you in a fantasy league with? A bunch of 16-year-olds. You know, who else? Like a random league? Yeah. And I have to say, I do enjoy... None of them will trash talk with me because, you know, you can do that thing where you sort of type in, like, you're going down or... Right. Nobody will do that. They're just very polite. 16-year-olds being polite in a fantasy...

47:34Rich Eisen:Now that... So what's your team name? What was your fantasy team name? I can't tell you. Why not? I'd have to kill you if I told you. Plus, I don't even remember. Okay, because I would love to know. I mean, because that's most of the fun that we thought. Is it? That's most of the fun? It kind of is. Okay. Yeah. But you finished in second. I did come in second. Do you recall who was on your team? Well, I got seriously burned by Todd Gurley. It was his first season with the rounds. He just disappointed me pretty severely. That was a bad year to be holding Todd Gurley the entire time. Do you have a real football team that you love?

48:15Rich Eisen:Yes. I love the Green Bay Packers. How'd that come about, Jody? Somebody gave me a cheese head and it was all over. That's it? Yeah, that's all it took. Who was it? Was it De Niro? Was it De Niro gave you a cheese head? Who gave you the cheese head? No, I have a friend of mine who has like an in with them. So it was not just a cheese head, but it was a cheese head everything. So there was like a cheese mug and there was a cheese ring and there was a cheese headband. Okay, so you got into that. Cheese like dog outfits. Have you ever been to Lambeau Field? Have you ever been there? I never have.

48:44Rich Eisen:It's unbelievable. That's what I've heard. Because you're just in there, it's a Midwest town and you're driving down a road and there's a gas station, there's a Kmart. There is the cathedral of football where Lombardi used to play. I can dream. I can dream. If I do well, you know, if I do pretty well in fantasy, maybe I'll have that. Maybe you can do such a thing. I had, you know, I've decided I discovered Devontae Adams. So, because I had him the whole year. So, when did— He's my guy. I call him my man, Devontae. Does he know that? He doesn't know that. Maybe he'll know it now. Okay. Jodie Foster talking fantasy football.

49:21Rich Eisen:That's what this show is all about, everybody. So good. Because she became a Packers fan because somebody gave her a cheese head, and she loved Jordy Nelson. and then she created Devante Adams, pretty much. How about that? I love it. Got a buzz? What's happening over here? Yeah. We got to fix TJ's computer. I normally charge my computer during the break, and then I unplug it when we come back because it makes a little buzz. Screw it. We'll just figure this out. So he plugs as he charges his computer, and then messes with his microphone? Yes, and there's something with the line, yes, and the cable.

49:52Rich Eisen:Do you know anybody who could help fix that? No, I don't know any audio guys. We got it. It's a project. because everything's like wire tied. It's not an easy... So as long as I'm not charging when we're on. But we got to fix it. It's a pain in the ass for me as an audio guy. I'm not going to lie. It's just bad for me. People are like, what's that buzz? And I'll get like emails. I'm Reddit again. I'm sick of that crap. That's such a classic New Jersey phrase over there. I usually unplug it. Just that time, Joey Foster had me distracted. That was interesting. Tyler Warren getting tush-push situation.

50:23Rich Eisen:That one... Holy... Dude, if that guy starts getting rushing touchdowns, Yes. Bro. Remember this moment. You heard it here first, or I'm sure on his other shows. I'm sure, but still, I mean, that's the first I've ever heard that. Dude. Jonathan Taylor, you just basically put a fullback in and run him in the end. Yeah. That's why people choose him first round in fantasy. If he's going to get vultured by a tight end. By the way, not a bad idea. I love that idea. Right? Well, the Ravens do it sometimes with Mark Andrews. And so we've seen it before with a tight end. Guess what? It's not crazy about this.

50:59Rich Eisen:Who was the offensive coordinator when the Tush Push first started in Philadelphia? Stiken. The head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. Guy knows how to do it and install it. And what you need is some interior offensive linemen. Now, they swapped a lot of them out. But interesting right there. And Jonathan Taylor fantasy players right now are like, OS. Just went, what? Get into the Hyundai getaway sales event right now. Get away with the deal so right it almost feels wrong because right now you can get huge savings on their most popular models, including the adventure-ready SUVs like the Hyundai Santa Fe and Santa Fe hybrid models.

51:37Rich Eisen:Or go all-electric and choose from America's most awarded EV lineup like the Breakthrough Ioniq 5 or Ioniq 6 Sedan. So get into your local Hyundai dealer and get away with a great deal only during the Hyundai getaway sales event. Visit HyundaiUSA.com for details. Saints name a new starter. And the all-time great starter is joining us in our number three, Drew Brees, right here on the Rich Eisen Show, Don't You Dare Move. Still here on the Roku. They're an over-under for the game one for the tush-bush. What does that mean? How many times they run it? Oh, interesting. Let me look. By the way, Rich, you kind of laughed.

52:15Can't you wager on anything? You laughed when I drafted Jalen Hurts yesterday, But the reason being, I think the Eagles are going to be even more particularly petty about this pushing of Tush. Because of trying to get stopped. And you would think that they would kind of overdo it now just to kind of prove a point. At least that's what I'm looking for.

52:33Rich Eisen:I laughed because who was your quarterback in fantasy last year? Who was it? In our league? No, TJ had Saquon last year. Saquon, that's right. So two years in a row. And you've gone Eagles. You've gone Eagles for your big, important spot. was it my first post? No, Saquon was last year. Well, sometimes you have to separate church and state if you want to do well at fantasy. That's a good point. Jalen Hurts' rushing touchdown line is minus 135. What does that mean? That means basically you have to pay a little bit of a juice to get money back. Oh, saying he's going to score one? He's likely to score a touchdown.

53:10Rich Eisen:He's saying, can you best how many push-push formations do you see on opening night? That's not really a thing. Well, someone's got to make up that line. Why don't we make up the line? One and a half, two. Can we make up our own lines here? Since random, nameless, faceless people in the desert do it. Why can't we make up a line? Go ahead. We've got the floor. What do you got? Over, under on tush pushes. Mike, since it was you, just throw a number out. I say two. Two. Well, you've got to go half. You've got to do half. No, I know, I know. You don't want to push on the tush push. One and a half.

53:43Rich Eisen:Okay. I'd go over on that, Sam. Right? But if you put it at two and a half, then I'm like, well. What were you going to do there? I'll put it over on that, too. Would you really? Of course. I'm hoping we get a lot. Yeah, I'm thinking they're going to be pretty petty about it, too. Of course. By the way, that's. That's why it's spite squad, guys. Nothing is more petty. Hold on a minute. Let me see here. Well, there was the dude who picked the score, right? Right. I have it right here. Idan and Phoenix in a win-loss game for the Eagles had them beating the Packers, and he had them beating them 22 to 10 because that was the vote in the competition committee or the ownership meeting to try and ban the Tush Push, and they were two votes shy.

54:22Rich Eisen:I love that. That's petty right there. It was 22 to ban it and 10 to say no, and so 22 to 10 would be the final score against the Packers. That's petty. Yeah. Mr. The King. Oh, there's your fantasy avatar. What's that have to do with anything? Because that should be the avatar for your fantasy team. Is it with TJ's spite squad? Are you going to stay with that one? Because last year. well I was spiked because of you why doesn't you always mess with me every draft I mess with everyone in drafts because I sit around and wait 18 picks delete this picture delete this I'm going to go through this whole show without me choosing

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