NCW on WWE Saturday Night's Main Event & SummerSlam, AEW Dynamite & Tiffany Stratton

24:19O'Shea:Oh, we're? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I had to tell Paul, they're like, you know this dude got the record. Got the record for most times in the No Conscious Wrestling podcast. I guess. He said, I should have three more. I was like, three more? Seven times? And then he did ask, is anybody close to me? I said, Punk got three. He was like, all right, yeah, I got to get some space. I got to get some space. And then after that, Michael Cole walked in. He was eating. I didn't look at what he was eating. I ain't weird like that. But Michael Cole was in. I was talking to Michael Cole a little bit. Then, you know, I talked to him about his.

24:57New York Mets fan, Michael Cole.

24:58O'Shea:Yeah, the Mets, man. You know, talking about the Mets. Cancel baseball, Michael Cole. That's how I'm feeling. He saw me because I was, you know me. I'm a natural heel. I had to toe in Dodger gear. Yeah. I had to toe in Dodger gear. Mind you, he's in not just New York City. He's in the Mecca. He's in Madison Square Garden. Yeah, and the Dodgers were in town, and they just beat the Yankees. It was crazy. Michael Cole loved it. He said love it. I bet. Love it, man. and um yeah from there i look at the screen and i'm watching like the rehearsal i'm like as a fan i'm like i am not supposed to be in here like do i gotta take my shoes off like it is like this is crazy and then jessica card came out in uh uh cricket car yeah we'll get to that Charles Robinson you know I like I got to talk to the refs and you know talking to Oba and watching Paul Heyman do his thing and you know I'm looking at the rehearsal remember you don't like our unreal so you don't want to give away too much I know what you told me it's like it was just so cool to see Yeah, and it trips me out.

26:20And then who comes through the curtain?

26:25O'Shea:Seth. I go up to Seth Rollins, you know, dab him up, say what's up. And he's like, is TJ here? Where's his big ass at? I love that everybody's just like big man. Time out, time out, time out. So two of my favorite wrestlers, two of the biggest stars in wrestling, both asked about me individually. because they know we attend them, bro. We got to, I know if one here, the other got to be. Look, you see him. You see him, America. And my face always looked like somebody stinks. Yeah, man. Can't tell me nothing. Yeah, so I talked to Seth and he spoke very highly. Yeah, he spoke very highly of everybody at the Eisen show.

27:13O'Shea:He will be on tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow and Friday, Seth Rollins. the 23rd, 24th. He will be guest-hosen. My birthday tomorrow, by the way. Bro. Damn it. I hate that you told me because I had it in my phone and I'm like now you ruined it. It don't matter. Stupid. But anyway. July 23rd, 24th. The line is out. Yeah, so everybody, y 'all gonna be nice to TJ tomorrow in the comments and on social media. It is his birthmas tomorrow. That's right. Birthmas. B-I-R-F - M-A-S. Birthmas. So yeah, it's going great and then Saturday Night's Main Event, I'm sitting at the seats. I'm with Paul Heyman's kids, his daughter and his son and his son's homie, this rapper named Sco.

28:07O'Shea:Shout out to Sco. And yeah, we're watching it and of course I'm locked in. You know how I get down when it's wrestling, bro. I'm about to lose my voice out here, you know? That's the point. Ran into some cool people. Ran into my buddy who runs Cameo, so I'm going to get my Cameo back up. Word up? Cameo? Cameo. Or the app? No, the app. Oh, okay. Everybody say. Watch Saturday Night's Main Event. Carl Anthony Towns. well let's go down the card yeah go ahead we had new women's tag team champions we're talking about women's tag teams earlier in the pod they needed that too fatal influence defeated uh brie bella and page and yeah you know i i'm an old school wrestling fan so i love i'm a bella's fan i've been a bella's fan i'm a page fan at one point you know if we'd been doing this pod you know 12 years ago you would have known page it's probably my favorite female wrestler yeah i just loved page right so it was nice to see her come back get a title win but like we said last week i didn't think they were doing enough with them like there's so many stories that you could tell with page and brie and it didn't seem like they were doing it so now fatal influence comes in and you know now we got some younger women in there winning their first championships on the main roster which i do find funny because half the iwc gets mad right either the champions are too old and the other half the champions are too young.

29:40Yeah. And it's just like. They get the titles already? Yeah, right? So it's like either you're complaining. No, guys, you know, I'm a little bit older. So I remember when I first started watching wrestling, right? Let's just say this. This is just from me doing my history. In 1981, Ric Flair wins his first NWA title, which started his reign of 16 championships. I think he was 35 when that first got started. so that meant he was into his 40s when he became you know rick flair and was you know in title range 789 so for me like you know verne ganya was champion harley race these guys were all a little bit older so i would always just under the impression that it took that much time really to fully you know hone your craft and get you to the point where a company felt comfortable and you making you champion.

30:33Seasoned. I know everybody wants a youngster, but is someone 25 years old really able to fully, as QB1, carry the second biggest companies in wrestling? I think you kind of need that time, man, to really get your crap together. Fatal influence, they're young, they're new.

30:57O'Shea:Yeah, and they got some heat. They got some heat, man. And it felt like, yeah, like you said, but just to my previous point of them not doing nothing with the women's champions. It's like, they just got these titles, they have their moment, and then like, they just feel like everybody's just supposed to be happy coming to work. Well, maybe this will change, you know. We've been big Fallon Henley fans here from day one of this pod. We never got her for some reason. We met her a few times at different NXT shows. You know, we were like, yeah, we'll get you on. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened yet, but I'm sure it will but yeah no matter what you can always rely on the IWC to come by on their motorcycle and bitch bitch bitch but also want to point out where's Julia right where's Julia why'd you get me so excited about Keanu James and I'll see Keanu James no more and where's Stephanie McCarrick where's yeah sorry for that I saw someone cosplaying.

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33:45Yeah, so, but yeah, we miss Stephanie.

33:47O'Shea:Yeah, man. Miss Stephanie Viqueira. I don't even take a body double if you, anyway. I mean, if I was W, I'd look for this signing whoever that person was. Two Chiles. That's hot. Anyway, and then, Jordan Grace. Yeah. Jordan Grace. We're reading they got no plans for her. I got an idea for you. It's a three-hour show. You got six hours between two shows, right? Yeah. Here's just a random idea. I said this about Sami Zayn when he had the belt. How about we just put Jordan Grace in a wrestling match against Julia for 15 minutes? Guess what? Ain't nobody going to complain about it. No one's going to complain.

34:22No one's going to be mad.

34:23O'Shea:You know what I would love at a SummerSlam for no reason whatsoever? Let me get Kiana James and Jordan Grace. Why not? That's a buff off. Right? So you keep hearing there's no plans. I mean, but there's a lot of time on these shows, man, for wrestling matches. We would be okay just to match. I'm okay with it. Just to match that might lead into a story. You know? Just like you don't know what's going to stick, but you got to throw it at the wall. Got to, man. Throw it at the wall. Some people don't like wrestling without a story, but you just said something there. Put two people together, something happens.

35:05Maybe now a story comes from that.

35:06O'Shea:Yeah. You know, as long as, you know, we're not saying, like, just like have it just be you know random all the time but like there might be some goal out of having somebody like of the physical stature of Jordan Grace and of the physical stature of Keanu James and like everything that they put in you built up that storyline of Keanu James kind of wanting to leave Julia and all of that and we was invested and still invested it's gone gone man but yeah just as Osha Jack's gym, got a sticker for the ladies. Ladies first. Ladies first. So yeah, we got new women's tag team champions. Congratulations.

35:48The Fatal Influence. Now, you brought up my guy, Carl Anthony Towns.

35:53O'Shea:Yeah. Who, you know, we had JD McDonough go against Dan Housen. And, you know, that match goes on. We saw the appearance of the Minnie Housens with Dom. By the way, Dom is being very disrespectful to the Knicks jersey oh my god wow if you can hear that building live it wasn't bad dude it was like well you know dom's automatic heat it seems like his heat i don't want to say it's cooled off because it shouldn't but like they they love dom they love dom and that's the he's a he's a hill i mean respect you that you love hey now apparently we're going to get him and dan Housen at SummerSlam or something.

36:36Dan Housen. The big thing that came out, you know, Dan Housen's been working on this contraption. He has a black cat in the cage and he puts him in the converter. Then a black cat came out. Then a black cat came out and here comes Carl Anthony Towns, New York Knicks center, NBA champion, seven feet tall and you can't teach that. And yeah, he comes to the ring with Dan Housen with his shades on, looking all cool and then And Cat pulls off two very impressive choke slams, one on JD and one on Dom through a table. And I got to be honest, that first one to JD, I was like, I was worried JD was going to over-rotate.

37:15Yeah. Did you know? But he landed perfectly. You got to imagine how many times they practiced that beforehand. Then he put Dom through the table, and then he's standing tall with Dan Housen and the mini Housens and throwing up the five. And it was just a cool thing to see there in the card. Funny you should say that.

37:33O'Shea:There was no rehearsal. Really? Everything you saw was the first time. Talk to me. How do you know that? Because I talked to Cat afterwards, and I know how early I got there. The Cat asked about me. No, no, no, no. He probably doesn't know our rehearsal. Yeah, you know, because he would have known. If he would have known. Oh, my God. But the thing I was impressed with, the dude walked from the concrete, slapped his big old foot onto the ring and walked up it like a sept. Yes. And then kicked that big old foot back over the ropes. It looked more athletic than I've ever seen people do that. It really did.

38:18O'Shea:He got in limber as ever, obviously. Glasses did not move on either chokeslam. And he stayed a big. He was big. So I interrupt you. Let's get back to that. Yeah. I saw him after. No rehearsal. I saw him after. And I was like, bro, you came out there. What you did, like, you were perfect. He said, no rehearsal. He said, everything, like, we knew what we wanted to do, came in and just did it. Wow. That is impressive. That's crazy. And so I was like, man, that's wild. He was like, yeah, I like coming in, the entrance and all that. And the choke, like, no rehearsals. That's impressive. Yeah. Because he looked great.

39:01And I don't think he's done anything like that before. And speaking of cat, he reminded me the way he moved, his skin tone, the size of him, remind me of an older wrestler named Ernie the Big Cat Ladd. You know, we always like to do a little history here. Ernie Ladd was a former San Diego Charger football player. D lineman back in the 60s. He then became a professional wrestler after kind of seeing the money he could make. Because, you know, back then, the NFL money wasn't quite what it is today. And, you know, Andre the Giant was once asked to try out for the Washington football team. He declined because he could make more money in pro wrestling.

39:38So I think that's what happened with Ernie Ladd. But Ernie the Big Cat Ladd became a star in the late 60s, in the 70s, early 80s. And he wrestled all the big stars, the Bruno Sammartinos, the Bob Backlunds, you know, guys like that. And so I saw a lot of Ernie Ladd in Cat. That's the way. And like I said, go to YouTube, look up Ernie Ladd matches. Do yourself a favor. He was also just money on the mic. And one of my favorite Ernie Ladd interviews is he's talking to Vince McMahon. You know, back in the day, Vince would do the announcing and the interviewing before people knew that he was dead at this time.

40:13He still did. Unbelievable. Yeah, people still didn't know. And Ernie Ladd would look at him. and there was one interview where, you know, because Ernie Ladd was talking that talk back in the day. He was talking a lot of Matt Trash. And, you know, when he's looking at Vince, he goes, look at you, Mr. TV announcer. I bet you loved to slap me in the face, wouldn't you, Mr. TV announcer? But let me tell you something, Mr. TV announcer, you better never in your life slap me, Mr. TV announcer. And so, yeah, so that was Ernie Ladd. Big wrestled Andre the Giant back in the day. He was one of the guys who could, you know, somewhat measure up to Ernie or Andre because Ernie was 6 '9".

40:47O'Shea:Yeah. So he reminded me the way Cat moved, the way Cat looked. Cat gave me Ernie the Big Cat Lad vibes. Arms crossed. If it's something he wants to keep doing, I feel like he could be like the new wave Ernie the Big Cat Lad. So that was just something that popped into my head immediately was Cat and the Big Cat. Right. Absolutely. I just feel like for a walk-in, not bad. not bad at all he couldn't ask it to go any better right but perfectly any better i know you want to slap me mr tv announcer you better never think about it you better never think about it here's my one problem though and you know because i am old school and maybe i'm the only one pounding the old school table sometimes but it's madison square garden yeah legendary matches have happened in Madison Square Garden for the WWWF back in the day.

41:42WWF, three W's, and then two W's, and then WWE. But the one thing, Shay, that kind of bothered me was when you look at the history of the Garden, two men who sold out the Garden probably more than anyone who didn't rock a Knicks uniform were Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund. We're talking almost 11-year title reign, almost a six-year reign for Backlund. And yet, during that whole Saturday Night's Main Event, I saw one clip of Bruno Sammartino for one split second. And there was no mention of him the rest of the show that I can remember. There was no mention of Bob Backman, who sold out the Garden, I think, over 100 times in five years and 10 months as champion.

42:23So it kind of bothered me because, like I said, I am that old school fan. I love the history of the game, so to speak. So it's like you had a perfect opportunity to really— In the Garden. In the Garden.

42:34O'Shea:Yeah. Because kids don't know what they don't know. You know, I've lived long enough now to, now I see all of these arguments that are mind-boggling to me, that Michael Jordan wasn't all that, right? That Jay-Z wasn't him, that Eminem wasn't him, you know, that all these people that in real time were most definitely the greatest and were all that. Now I've got people saying, well, Jay-Z was never the best, blah, blah, blah, you know, Eminem really wasn't that good. And so it just kind of bothers me as an old school fan because this is what I grew up on. I say the name Bob Backlund probably more than any other wrestling podcaster in the world does, and I'm going to continue to do that because I feel like these men earn this.

43:16So just a little bit of love shown to the Brunos and the Bob Backlunds who really sold out those shows in the Garden. So that was just my one little beef, if I have a beef, me being a history lover.

43:29O'Shea:It just seems like there's a lack of respect. respect respect and that was something that you know during the uh nepo baby conversation um but it it just feels like i was always taught how can you know where you're going if you don't know where you've been yeah i love that you know and you gotta you gotta tip your cap to those that came before Be grateful for those that came before that sacrifice before. You might think of today's athletes and superstars and yada yada. They have so much more going for them or that they can do or that they're allowed to do that it automatically makes that better.

44:22O'Shea:but think about all the stuff that people before accomplished with far less right and that's got to mean something that's got to mean something yes i know about steph curry and there's never been nothing like him and all of that can you imagine what having to do what jerry west did and shoes that are basically made out of paper. Like the numbers that Elgin Baylor was putting up. Wearing some Chuck Taylors with no ankle support whatsoever. Flat. Yeah. Now think about that guy if he had today's stuff. That's why, you know, when people think that, Rick Barry I saw quoted on this because people always be like, Like, well, you know, Koozie, Bob Koozie would just get eaten up by these guards.

45:16But you got to remember the highlights we see, Koozie was the top 1%. That meant as far as basketball skills went, he was at the top of the food chain. Rick Barry was like, if I averaged 27 back then when we didn't have anything, he goes, what do you think I would average now if I had all of the modern medicine and, you know, the equipment? He goes, you think I wouldn't average 30? He didn't say this, but I'm thinking like, what do you think he wouldn't average 30 a game? If you were doing it back then where you could basically get beat up and shoes with no ankle support, what if you had some air in your feet and you were being protected?

45:53O'Shea:Yeah. And it's like the science of me putting that ball in that hoop, that does not change. Never changed. That does not change. From the Apple box till now. Yes. So, like, the idea of me learning some dribble moves. I'll learn some dribble moves. They weren't teaching it back then that way. So, like, I'll learn some dribble moves. Because he was dribbling with one hand most of the time, and no one could take the ball. Right. Just, like, hearing the – I guess he wouldn't be hearing the globe try to wrestle, but you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying. That was back when the world – that was back when Rainbows was black and white.

46:28O'Shea:But, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. You just got to tip your cap sometimes, man. And if it's a message that O'Shea Jackson Jr. can pass on to you, how can you know where you're going if you don't know where you've been? Is this the right way? I don't know. It's been a circle. So, yeah, check yourself before I wreck thyself. Now, you know, I just looked this up. Bruno Sammartino sold out Madison Square Garden between 187 and 188 times. The garden. But they got a banner for Harry Styles. Bob Backlund sold out the garden an estimated 67 times. But they got a banner for Harry Styles. T-Swift got a banner, but she got married in there, so that's a different story.

47:20O'Shea:I was mad when they put up that Taylor Swift banner in Staples. I was like, oh my God, we need to win right now. Did she have one in the Garden too or no? I didn't look. Once I saw only two championships up there, I just stopped even caring. You were so rude. Let's get back to New York. Now three. One of our favorites. Tied the Sparks. One of no contest absolute favorites, Bailey. My moon and my stars. Her and Lyra. you know and you know we all hearing the rumors like could this be it are they writing her off her and Lyra put on a banger which almost got sidetracked a little because Bailey busted Lyra up right went to hit her in the stomach and as the follow through the elbow came down hit Lyra and knows she was she was leaking blood and I think that now you were there so you could tell me it seemed like the crowd got taken out of it a little bit yeah a few minutes and those women worked hard to get the crowd back but there was some time when Once that blood flowed, it seemed like it was a hush.

48:20Yeah, it was kind of a mouth open, everyone watching situation.

48:27O'Shea:Yeah. Of just like a, uh-oh. And it kind of felt, are they making it ugly on purpose type thing? Where you're wondering like that blend of reality and pro wrestling started to blur. and there was a moment i forget if it was a yeah uh it was like a suplex into the turnbuckle situation or something where one of them hit the turnbuckle real hard okay and the entire crowd went like you feel like a little like oh this is getting crazy but you know they libra got hit dead at my you know i was in new york so i know this is a terminology they use get ready for the bleep D-Lo dead in her oh my goodness and yeah I mean you know we love Bayley we know Bayley's gonna put on some great wrestling Lyra this was kind of a showcase for a new character of her so the writing is kind of on the wall she needs it more than Bayley does and then for it to be as rough as it was the ending kind of a savage ending, not a clean ending.

49:45O'Shea:It was kind of like a, oh, it's over? And then for Lyra to finish the way that she finished it on the outside, it's like, yeah, okay, Bayley's getting on a vacation, that vacation. I don't expect to see her next week. No. And honestly, I forget. Are they raw or are they smack down? Because Lyra should be in this ladder match. Well, it looks like Lyra has her eyes set on Seoul. Yeah, yeah. We'll see where that goes. But, man, yeah, the Intercontinental titles, that's just like she wanted that to be hers. But she should be in this ladder match, man. I feel like she would bring a gritty mat worker style in that I think is needed in that ladder match.

50:39O'Shea:plus I remember her in that Money in the Bank where I kind of started to fall in love with her style but the bird person is angry angry bird you know like I told you back they don't do this enough in my opinion but back in NXT I just saw vignettes of Lyra I was not familiar with her at all and I became a fan I decided after two vignettes I'm like I like her and I didn't even see her wrestle I had yet to see her wrestle but I just the vignettes brought me in and I wish that was something that they did a little bit more kind of just with your AEW thing to help you I got in trouble for asking for that bro watch out yeah I'm a Lyra fan and now this like darker moodier type character which I think was probably necessary for her but now with the busted nose I put on Twitter yesterday that maybe she needs one of those kind of masks you know everyone wears a mask to protect they got a broken orbital bone or a broken nose it would be a perfect time for her to get some kind of wild, evil-looking bird mask to wrestle in.

51:41You look like

51:42O'Shea:one of them doctors from back in the day. Oh, yeah, like when Marty Scurll used to wear that mask. So I'm just saying, it's an opportunity since they're switching her character up, and if she does have a broken nose, she obviously has got to wear some type of protection. Oh, and I love the darker theme they gave her. Yeah, they did change her theme, and most of the times we get mad when the themes change. This one, I think everybody's like, Look at y 'all. Okay, Def Rebel. You bucked yourself two more months with us. Two more. But yeah, so we'll see what happens with Bayley. You know, that shot of her just, you know, being basically smashed against the ring steps upside down.

52:20Makes you think, like I said, that we won't be seeing her for a while. You know, everyone's got their opinion that she's, this is it for her. I know I've read her contract that lasts to at least the end of the year. So we'll see. but regardless, no matter where Bayley goes, you know, you got two fans here. If she's got no fans, that meant that something happened to us too.

52:42O'Shea:You know, if she stays with WWE, obviously supporting. If it's Bay EW. Yeah, supporting. Yeah, man. Shout out to Pam. Damn, I love me some Pam. Shout out to Pam. And then we had tag team match with stipulations. CM Punk and Cody Rhodes taking on Sami Zayn and Gunther. Or Gunther. Yeah, Gunther. Gunther. Gunther. I got to go with the Gunther. Yeah, Gunther. Because we like Gunther with an A. Not with a hard ER. Because why would we like that? But yeah, so the stipulation being if the heels, Sammy, and which I'm still not sure Sammy's a heel, but I'll just say if Sammy and Gunther could have won the match, they would get added to the undisputed WWF championship match at SummerSlam.

53:31And, of course, it didn't go down because a man who some people, you know, they might know as Magnus. We know him as Nick Aldis.

53:40O'Shea:Yeah. He and Gunther have been beefing. And Nick Aldis was like, I'm still a man. And I'm 6 '5". And I'm 250. And I ain't going to let you just, you know, push me around like I'm some triple J jerk job jabroni. Talking to me like I got the rush card. Listen, bruv. You know, so, yeah, Nick Aldis came out, you know, interfered with the match a little bit. because he was over Gunther's BS and clocked him with the belt, gave Cody and Punk the win. Now that is going to stay a one-on-one match for the championship. And now Nick Aldis, a guy who, if you're simply a WWE fan, then you know nothing about his wrestling career.

54:21Now you're going to get to see for the first time Nick Aldis in the ring as he's going to take on Gunther. And that should be a pretty fun match, depending, right? because you still have Gunther who retired Goldberg, Cena, Styles. He's still got this persona. We kind of feel like they're not doing enough with him. So I can't see Nick Aldis winning this match because that wouldn't make any sense. But I think that Nick Aldis can have a good enough showing that maybe he leaves the GM job in the rear view and he jumps back into the squared circle as a regular, everyday. or at least being called up

55:01O'Shea:like how William Regal used to do alright let me take this suit off beat your ass I saw somebody on Twitter talking about so Gunther should just completely annihilate this dude right he retired Cena and Goldberg hold on completely annihilate win yes completely annihilate no he kind of did completely I know but like he shouldn't just run through Nick Aldis because look at Cena 49 years old you look at Goldberg 59 years old so when they fought Gunther they were 48 and 58 they call this 20 years younger than Goldberg and 10 years younger than Cena they call this 39 years old come on y 'all see the guy like I said I'm 6 '3 I walked by him at Wrestlemania 2 years ago he's definitely a solid 6 '5 he's taller than me and he's still you know Nick Aldis was always jacked and if you don't know anything about him take a chance and I'll say I'll recommend this match Cody Rhodes Nick Aldis for the NWA World's Championship and All In I think they had two matches that was my first introduction so you know he was Magnus in TNA part of a tag team then he went on a successful singles campaign so yeah Nick Aldis when he came to WWE I was one of the people going why is this guy not wrestling like you heard my sister was adamant that he was going to new oh yeah especially after that that all in she was like it would have made sense yeah but but yeah so if you if you're not familiar with nick aldis as a performer then like i said just go watch go to youtube watch his matches with cody rhodes because that's someone else who you're familiar with so it'd be an easy watch but um yeah he gunther should win yeah because of the path that they put him on but in no way shape or form should he just run through Nick Aldis?

56:56No way. I want blood. And something else that people might know about Nick Aldis, he is married to a Hall of Famer and my second favorite female wrestler of all time, Mickie James.

57:08O'Shea:We ain't got to bring that up. Well, you know, it makes me angry when I think about it. But no, no. Nick Aldis and Mickie James are married. They have a kid together, so a lot of people might not know that about him. We're winning. He's winning. He's winning in life. He's winning no matter what. And now he gets to have a wrestling match on the biggest stage there is in WWE at SummerSlam. So it's going to be interesting to see. Probably got a lot of ring rust, but we also don't know. I don't know what he's been doing. He could have his own ring at the crib and running through matches. The man could probably wrestle a bear.

57:40Same thing with Adam Pearce, though. He got brought in. No one knew that he was a multiple-time NWA world champion. So there's definitely people in WWE who only know Adam Pearce as a GM, don't know about Scrap Daddy. Scrap Daddy What a name It's going to be interesting to see I'm actually looking forward to that match To see where this goes

57:59O'Shea:Right, absolutely I agree So yeah, so Cody and Punk would keep that Now, what's up with Sammy? Yeah, you got to feel like Probably going to be some interference in that match Because Sammy's not happy And I understand him not being happy But also him not having a match Him not being involved is not going to sit well With Sammy Zane so you got to imagine that like he's going to make his presence known at least one of those days i think uh yeah he's got to interrupt that match you would assume got to because like you can't take the belt off punk and cody wonky is super cody yeah so it would make all the sense in the world that he ruins a dream match like that and it's something that you got away from summer slam i mean wrestlemania also we even know two days i don't know what match is taking place on what day yet.

58:47Yeah, dog.

58:48O'Shea:We got a whole raw to get through still. But we're trying to go, correct? We got to talk about that. We have to get flights and stuff. Absolutely. And then this thing that happened because at that point, it seemed like the show was over. They did a lot of vignettes, some commercials. Then they brought out Jalen Brunson. And they're going to celebrate Jalen Brunson, NBA champion, at the Garden with Roman Reigns. The OTC invited him to come. He accepted. So now you've got this thing where It's the home of the Knicks. They're the world champions. 53 years this has been. So they're going to celebrate the Knicks.

59:23A lot of people got in their feelings saying there was somebody on Facebook that said Roman Reigns just lost all of his aura. I'm like, are you serious? Because why wouldn't you do this? Why wouldn't you celebrate? In a building that WWE considers sacred ground. You have the NBA first time in 53 years. So, yeah, you're going to celebrate them. And then they bring out Tyrese Halliburton and Seth Rollins. They have a little thing where Seth and Roman have a back and forth.

59:50O'Shea:How great was it to see Halle come out, though? It was great. But you know what? I know Halliburton's a big WWE fan. But part of me goes, you know, all those videos that you would see after Nick Games, it was always F this and F that. There were a few F Halliburton's. But overwhelmingly, it was F Trey Young. So I was thinking, man, at some point, for as much of a reaction as they got when Halliburton came out, and I get why they do it because he's a very big fan. I don't know if Trae Young likes wrestling, but if they really wanted to send that guard and ground hysterics, because Knicks fans were effing Trae Young for no reason.

1:00:27Trae Young had nothing to do with anything. It's Trae Young. It's Trae Young. It's something that you've seen throughout years and years and years. There's always the participation of stars from other sports taking part in WWE. Right now, Tom Brady, a lot of people are like, why is he doing this to Logan Paul? I can understand if you don't get it, but there is a precedent for it. For sure. And the same thing, Seth Roman went at it just to add layers to their upcoming match, and Brunson stopped it. And if you play it back, what, two, three years ago, it was L.A. Knight and Jalen against Logan Paul and Tyree.

1:01:04So they've had that thing going a little bit. Exactly.

1:01:06O'Shea:And that's what I tied it to is like these two guys are actually in WWE 2K. Like they are. Like you can play as them. And so like that is their two NBA guys is Halle and Brunson. And then I started to tie it into like so you got Brunson, you know, the New York Knicks, the chosen one, the king being with Roman Reigns. and then Halliburton, who was in the finals, game seven. And why did he lose that title? Got hurt. Seth Rollins. Got hurt. Got hurt. And so, like, there was a nice little tie-in right there. I'm glad you said that because most people weren't tying that. Yeah, and so it's like, you know, that's just how I'm looking at things.

1:01:58O'Shea:And, you know, you got the title that's supposed to be mine, but I got hurt. Got hurt. so that's how i i looked at it and i was like this is seth going full heel because like at first it was like you know seth gave the rah rah speech of like looking himself in the mirror and accepting who he is and yada yada i'm gonna stop you but this is a declaration of heel like or we could just look at this as a one-off it's gotta be right this is we're moving along our main event storyline but we're also just giving the garden and the entertainment aspect of WWE showing them some things. Exactly. And, you know, everybody got there.

1:02:40O'Shea:IFC got there. Draws in a bunch. The IFC or IWC? You know, IFC. Shout out to IFC. Idiots in theaters, August 28th. Coming up soon. But IWC just getting just so upset. I'm just like, this is the main event? No. What you watched before that was the main event. This is just a nod to the garden. Because there was a solid 10-15 minutes between these things. It didn't just happen after. They gave Jalen Brunson a longer entrance than Roman. And Roman's entrance is long. Yeah, man. This was obviously just for the guys. If Jalen Brunson was going around doing the DX all season, it would have been Triple H and Sean to bring him out.

1:03:26O'Shea:More than likely. You know? It just happens that every game, he acknowledges the trouble. So that's why it was Roman. If he did Penta's thing, Penta would have brought him out. Yeah, if the Niners had just won the championship, it would have been George Kittle and Penta. Yeah. Please never let that happen. Oh, my God. Niners? It's awful. I'm sorry. 0-3. 0-3, baby. That's hard to do. We love Kittle, though. Friend of the show. Yeah, friend of the show, Kittle. But he know what it is. flicking me off all wrestle yeah we had great time with George Kittle at Wrestlemania but so like dog he just he liked Roman that's why it was Roman anybody else it would have been anybody else but it wasn't it was my your our tribal chief and it's Roman Reigns he's the biggest star in wrestling you know on our Instagram page someone got at me called me a clown that said I'm a low key Roman hater and I'm like first of all are you an anawahi calm down i am not a roman hater but what i gotta do is sometimes offset you're over like you love roman so we have to have a somewhat of a balance i've acknowledged the tribal chief multiple times every time you got your one up right with me you know and then also it was just like and we could have had a rational conversation but the dude wanted to call me a clown yeah that's the problem with social media because you say shit to people yeah i curse You say shit to people that you wouldn't say to their face.

1:04:53You know what I mean? And it's just like you can't have a sports conversation without someone going and getting all butthurt and going there. Like, we can disagree without, like, me starting to curse you out or calling you this, that, and the third. You diss me. You know what I mean? So, I don't know. That's the social media problem. Yeah, man. Your sucker is showing. All right? Relax. But one of the things I love the most, right, that, you know, the way we get to do no contest here because of our, you know, also our ties and our relationships with the Rich Eisen show is we're able to balance like wrestling and have it also go to mainstream sports.

1:05:30So we talk before, you know, a lot of these other shows were talking wrestling. We talk wrestling. We talk, you know, traditional sports. That's what happened today. Today, O'Shea, he was guest hosting the Rich Eisen show. Did a great job. Thank you. And, you know, we talked to Montrez Harrell, who will be a guest of ours at some point. Very deep wrestling knowledge. But you talked about Big Three. But we also had the WWE Women's United States Champion, Tiffany Stratton. She zoomed in from the back of a car, and it was a great interview with her. So we figured we'd chop a little bit up and share it with you here because it was basically like, you know, no contest light.

1:06:10O'Shea:Yes. You know, the same no contest taste with less calories. So here he is. O'Shea Jackson Jr. hosting the Rich Eisen Show today, earlier today, and our guest, United States Women's Champion Tiffany Stratton. You got a pretty important match coming up, that ladder match for the interim women's title over there at WWE. How are you feeling having the home turf and also with so much on the line? Oh, I am so excited. You guys have no idea. And also, I'm pretty well-versed. I feel like when it comes to stipulation mats, to ladder matches, especially, I had a ladder match back in NXT. I also had a ladder match at Money in the Bank.

1:06:58And that's where I became Miss Money in the Bank. And that's kind of where my career took off, if you will. so I'm super excited I'm walking in very confident

1:07:07O'Shea:I mean she's already got some hardware she does you know you walking in there oh there it is I brought it United States of Stratton United States of Stratton that's a good one put it on a t-shirt get the merch ready baby so going in so far we only know it's you and Jade Cargham Now, I am a fan of when you two go at it. It seems like, you know, that first, that run you guys had, it was like three or four matches where it was just like banger after banger. And then you guys just recently went at it. You guys got, you know, I know it's not always seen the same way, but you guys got chemistry. Can you talk about what it's like to have somebody like Jay that you know, like, all right, they're going to bring it.

1:08:01O'Shea:So, you know, you got to bring it as well. Yeah, I completely agree. I feel like me and Jade are kind of like wrestling soulmates almost. I feel like we have such good chemistry. And every time we get together, we have these banger matches. And I feel like people kind of don't expect it. I don't know why, but we've had a couple of really good matches. So when people are like, oh, you know, they're wrestling again. It's like, guys, chill out. You're going to get a good match out of us. So I'm really proud of those couple of matches I've had with Jade. I'm proud of the storyline. There's got to be some sort of security as a performer to know that, like, you're with somebody who can, you know, Jade for sure can do more power spots than most people.

1:08:44O'Shea:You know you're going to be caught, you know, a lot of times. Like, that's got to be some sort of security, no? I mean, we've all seen the video of me diving off the ladder back in NXT and, you know, not really getting caught. So maybe if I were to do that again, maybe I could do it onto Jade Cargill. And, you know, she's strong. So maybe she can actually catch me this time. You know, for people who might not be familiar with you, you are a former gymnast, right? So can you just share with people how that helped your transition to becoming a WWE superstar? Yeah, so we have so many girls that are former gymnasts as well.

1:09:23We have Sol Ruko, we have Kalani Jordan done in NXT. So I feel like gymnastics helps so much just because gymnastics teaches you body control. It teaches you rolling. It teaches you how to flip, obviously. So a lot of that has to do with the foundation of wrestling, the basics. When you first get into a wrestling ring and you take your pro wrestling classes, the first thing you do is a forward roll. And that's like the foundation of everything in wrestling and also in gymnastics. So I felt like I already knew the foundation of wrestling going into it. because of gymnastics. And then obviously, a lot of the moves that I do within the ring, my entire moveset is a lot of the a lot of the things I used to do in gymnastics.

1:10:07So I've kind of just found a way to take my gymnastics background and completely transform it into my moveset within the ring. And my moonsault actually is something I used to do every single day in every single competition in my compulsory routine. It was a move that you had to do. So I can do my finisher in my sleep and that's because of gymnastics and like I said we have so many former gymnasts that are excelling at pro wrestling and gymnastics just does that for you it sets you up for not only wrestling but I think any sport truly so Tiff let them know the name of the move for those people who aren't familiar tell them because it's a great name so my moonsault is called the prettiest moonsault ever because obviously i do it prettier than everybody and um and the reason i do it prettier than everybody is because we got judged on how i did it in gymnastics on the trampoline so i had to have my my toes pointed my legs perfectly straight um my fingers perfectly straight um my my arms perfectly straight so that's why i do it so so perfect it's because i used to do it every single day in gymnastics so tiffy tell the people

1:11:23O'Shea:why they need to be behind you going into summer slam live from minnesota as you go for the title well obviously we all want tiffy two titles to happen so um hopefully um you guys have seen all the hard work that i put in for the past five years um i know i've seen it i've been going through it for the past five years so um i'm walking in as the u.s champion and hopefully i'm gonna walk out as deputy titles with the w women's championship and um in my hometown to make it even better and in front of my my family and and family that has never even seen me wrestle before so i'm super excited i hope i hope they're super excited to see this ladder match um hopefully it's stacked thus far i believe it is stacked you know you have me and jade cargill a former wd women's champion as well so um i think it's gonna be one of the more interesting matches out of the entire weekend i can't wait to perform in front of minnesota and um hopefully it's one that's that's memorable tifty strat you're right over there man what you good great man what a job What was that you were saying about Dr.

1:12:38Umar understanding? Dr. Umar just gonna have to forgive me. But yeah, man, that's what's cool. We're able to bring, you know, like wrestlers on to like the main show. And it's just, I don't know. I dig it the most.

1:12:50O'Shea:Yeah, man. It's really cool. And like credit to you for bringing that influence to the Rich Eisen show before we had this. And, you know, you're just, I'm acknowledging you, brother. Thank you, G. I gotta say that it was a good day. Like, you know, I talked to Stephanie Stratton today, Matthew Berry, who you also interviewed. He basically gave Ashton Kutcher and I props for being at the forefront of the fantasy football boom because he and I did a fantasy football show years and years and years. On Ustream. On Ustream before it really blew up. So that was really cool. He acknowledged me. And now this, you know, I'm feeling good today.

1:13:31I might play the Powerball, baby.

1:13:32O'Shea:Sound like somebody got a birthday coming up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The energy is going good in your way. It's going good in your way, man. And I'd like to also let everybody know, Planet of the Apes is not a different planet. It's actually Earth, and he finds out by finding the Statue of Liberty. Cornelius! I just wanted y 'all to know. You thought I forgot about the spoiler bit I was doing? Come on, dawg. But, yeah, man. So, yeah, that's where we're at, man. We got Monday, this upcoming Monday, July 27th, Monday Night Raw at the Intuit Dome. Yeah. So looking forward to that. We'll be in attendance, I believe.

1:14:08O'Shea:Oh, wait. I forgot. So after Saturday Night's main event goes off, you know, I'm kicking it with the Haymans. And, you know, got to see Terrence Crawford. Say what's up, Terrence Crawford. What a bud. Lin-Manuel Miranda. Okay. Saw him. Shout out to him. Saw him there, yeah. And then, Tribe of Chief. dapped up Roman for the fourth time. You see it. That's... You see it. That's... And yeah, I was talking to Chief for a little bit. He was like he was like he was like, yo, let me know, man, because this wrestling thing is hard on your back, man. I don't know if I can keep doing it. I was like, oh, you're trying to get on the other side of the camera?

1:14:58O'Shea:He was like, hey, man, let me know. yeah and then uh i might have might have gotten his manager's number oh just saying you know i mean he's super necessary you know we might work something out we might work something out a lot of people say they want to come on this show you said live morgan wants to come back for her second time cody has mentioned multiple times he wants to come on now the tribal chief so we gotta you know we know they want to come on the show we just got to actually get them on yeah to this yeah and you know it's there are some things in plan things in the works but if we say it out loud the haters will try to stop us yeah they don't need to know if we say it out loud the haters will try to stop us but we have things in the works that the no contest wrestling faithful would be very happy to know you guys are always trying to be on the up and up and we will take this whole thing over we will and it's all thanks to you guys and for you guys we just get to do the cool stuff I'm gonna look at this as a quote I saw Scott Hall say once and he told Vince McMahon he goes I don't want all the pie he goes just enough of it yeah man we only take it there's a big pie just give it you know we just won our lane and that's two of us that's at least two slices but then there's you know we go back for seconds so that's four pieces and then like you know it's good to have just one in the fridge that you forget about you know so yeah i'm gonna tell you like my dad tell me said you know when you go in the first class and they ask you you want your headphones or there's like would you like some peanuts or would you be dining with us this evening i want everything that i deserve i want everything promised and that's how we feel here you know no content it's like that and that's the way it is so yeah you're about to dip you're you're heading out of town to do big three again uh monday night like we said next monday raw will be in the uh at the end of it home of the los angeles clippers you're mine our los angeles clippers sorry i knew that ignorance so yeah looking forward to that uh and then you know big aw uh night tonight dynamite we got uh kenny omega will osprey and john moxley that's kind of a weird six man but they're taking on the don callis family brian cage hechichero and uh jake doyle used to be jake uh someone somebody i think his name is known but you know kevin knight against darby allen for the tnt title Divine Dominion against the Sisters of Sin for the Tag Team Championship.

1:17:45Clark Connors will take on Jay White. The Switchblade is back. And then we have Tekla and Willow having to face off.

1:17:52O'Shea:Yeah, you know I love me some Willow. And did I say Hechicero right or wrong? I think I said it wrong, but it's Hechicero. He wears a mask. So it's Brian Cage, Hechicero, and Jake Doyle against Moxley, Ospreay, and Omega. You just made me remember. Our buddy Trick saw Trick as well. Oh, you saw Trick? Yeah, saw Trick as well, because remember, he was on the pre-show. Laredo. Laredo. And, you know, we saw Laredo's who I saw over at TNA. And he gave me a mask. Yes. Yep. And I went up to him. I was like, hey, man, I still got my mask. He was like, oh, man. You know, like, we showed him low. I was like, happy to see you here.

1:18:31O'Shea:He was like, you know, I'm just trying to take it step by step. And Trick Williams, shirtless. Of course. I was like, dog. like you got to chop that with him a little bit like i don't have a shirt man i don't wear a shirt so that so he brings it up the shirtless thing because one day we were backstage at a tna show and unlike some people who stream we saw luchadors without their masks on we never put them on camera and recorded them and sent it out to the world it's something that we did not do yeah because we respect the game but we saw people without masks on but at one point and i've said this on the pod before i'm standing next to trick it's dark we're in the gorilla position it's all dark and Trick next to me goes, I'm cold.

1:19:10And I was like, yeah, there's a little bit cold around here. And I turn and look, I'm like, you don't have a shirt on, bro. Like, why don't you put on? He goes, I don't ever wear a shirt. Yeah, I don't ever wear a shirt.

1:19:20O'Shea:So I'm like, you rather just sit back here and be cold? Yeah, right. All right, come on, dog. And the next thing you know. Yeah, he's out there. He's running out there in J's. Trick really got six abs, so I get it. Yeah, exactly. No reason for him to wear his shirt. And yeah, so it's all Trick. Say what's up to Trick. You know, I'm talking to Trick. and uh yes it's just it was all around great night you know i got to paul hayman dropped me off at my hotel so i had to get in the suv with paul and i just felt like you know we always see the top guys in the back with paul that's wild man i'm glad you had that experience such a crazy experience and uh you know shook paul's hand and he goes um thank you for this because i'm in my I was like, man, thank you.

1:20:06O'Shea:But he held my hand. He was like, thank you for this. And he gave me the like, I owe you one. And I'm like, you don't. You don't owe me a thing. But I'll take it. But we'd love an interview. Number three. Yeah, right. He's already been on. We ain't got that full. Let's get that 60. Yeah. Let's get that 60. But we have been lucky enough. You know, I'm not going to, you know, we had Roman for eight minutes. But you know what? It was better than not having Roman for eight. And it actually did. We stretched it to 10 or 11. But it was better than not having him. Yeah, because they told us six. They told us six.

1:20:45O'Shea:People like talking to you guys, you know. But, yeah, the AEW thing. Something that bothers me about AEW. Hold on. Hold on. Okay? Relax. Something that bothers me about AEW is, like, I saw Tony Khan treats Dynamites like pay-per-views. And like, sometimes, that's really cool. You get like some crazy matches. That's gotta be taxing on the bottom. I mean, you're getting your money's worth every time at AEW. Every single time. And there shouldn't be anything wrong with that. No, there's not. But like, You got Kenny versus MJF on a dynamite, which could have sold. Could have been a pay-per-view. Yeah, would have sold.

1:21:36O'Shea:But then, you know, shout out to my brother, Kevin Knight. You know, you're in my faction, Ninjas with Altitude. But it's kind of crazy that that's on the pay-per-view and not MJF and Kenny. Because, you know, unless something crazy happens, I'm pretty sure Kenny is going to beat Kevin Knight. and go on to face Ospreay. Like, come on. Like I said, I have inside information, but I was sworn to secrecy, so I can't say anything. But everything I was told has come to fruition so far. It's not that I'm saying Kevin Knight doesn't deserve to be on a pay-per-view. I'm just saying, like, in the situation that they presented him in, I know Kenny's going to win instead of being like, come on, Kevin.

1:22:21O'Shea:You know, come on, Kevin. And so it's just, like, weird. It's just weird to put him in a spot. But that's just all I had to say about that, because I was like, that's just a little off. Either way, Kevin and Darby tonight, though, is going to be a banger. That's going to be a banger. And I'm low-key like, no, no, no, no. But the match is going to be – because in my mind, I was like, what if he loses that TNT title? And then, like, he went – but no, it's going to be Kenny versus Ospreay. It's going to be Kenny versus Ospreay. I know this. I just wish, like, at least play with my kayfabe mind that Kevin's got a chance at winning.

1:22:57O'Shea:You know? But he's still, you know, he's a TNT champion. He should take the time to showcase himself. Showcase himself. Make him look good, Kenny. And he will. There's no doubt about that. Kenny Knight is one of those ones. He's one of them ones. One of them ones, man. So, and Darby, man, you know, Brian Cage tossed Darby off of the ring post. Yeah. Darby, man, brother, like we, I guess Darby's living by the, I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Let me just shut my ass up. But, man, bro, you don't need to do that for us. I appreciate it, but you don't need to do all of that, dog. In moments like that, I'm like, yeah, that.

1:23:35O'Shea:Because you don't have to. You've already established yourself. That is for the guy who's trying to make a name. But then I think about Mick Foley talked to us about getting a pedigree onto glass or tax, I mean. I said glass because of Darby but the pedigree on the tax and he was like I could lose my eye right here but think of the pop you're a sicko dude speaking of Kenny Omega oh you see it you see it get a good shot of that look at the obliques just wanted to point that out Kenny there I think it's time to wrap this up because we got to get you to the airport Yes, please. You got your third job.

1:24:26You got like four jobs. Like living color with the Jamaican.

1:24:29O'Shea:Yeah, man. I am trying to be the hardest working young black man, single father. I'm trying to be the hardest working black single father in sports media. Let's go. And I'm out here doing it. ESPN show. Going to do sideline reporting for CBS. it's just it's hard out here but i gotta make it look easy you're doing it you're doing it and the greatest thing is you're always you know you're spreading the word the gospel of ncw which benefits me so i appreciate it absolutely bro ncw for life life tj please tell these lovely people where to find us right well so if you want to listen to us right then we're everywhere where you listen to podcasts.

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1:26:32O'Shea:my podcast partner, TJ Jefferson, hope you guys have a good day, but not too good. Cause who the hell do you think you are? Yeah. And send me like, I don't know, flowers or something for my birthday tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, man. Yeah, send us some. Never mind. Yeah. Bye, Miss Parker. Bye, Miss Parker. Be nice to get a message from her, too. That'd be nice. Yeah, you know. I thought we was homies. EO, you know, or Chris Statlander. That would be nice. Mercedes. You know, who else? Stephanie, that would be nice. Shout out to Miles. You know. Yeah, anyone. Anyone of you, you know. Tecla, that'd be cool.

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